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...Looks like the crap is starting to hit the fan and this is going to be the biggest running news item since last years MP's expenses scandal. It seems the Saudis want the Yanks to invade Iran (just a shame they're not in contact with the Israelis, because they're like dogs in the traps - rareing to go)....all sorts of stuff is coming out now

I wonder if Accy will get a mention?

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Not unless some of our members are secret agents Tealeaf:D

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Shhhhhhhhhhhhhh:eek:

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..double post

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The government have issued a D notice on the forthcoming document release, so you aren't likely to get any info from mainstream media.

The info is rumoured to be released at 9pm GMT today.

Wikileaks - Wikileaks

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well clicked "Tiger Woods UK media gag order 10 Dec 2009" n it won't load, so seems like the Gags working.:D

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Don't worry about the D notice..it counts for nowt in todays internet communications. The government is just going to look silly, as well as being silly.

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Every man and his brother are trying to get into wikileaks right now - I waited 10 minutes for the main page to load - patience needed:)

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"The resource you are looking for has been removed, had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable." when ya get it virtually everything ya click on, seems strange things are afoot.

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I have just read a few - strange that some are not available anymore:confused:

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Probably more "Expected" than strange Margaret?

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Try the Guardian or Der Spiegal websites (don't worry if you can't speak German on the latter; there is an English translation available); or try some of the US sites - NY Times, etc.

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Here is a website of worldwide news links about the leak

NewsNow: WikiLeaks

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When they have a big release of material, the place I always try first is;

//mirror.infoboj.eu/

normally works a lot faster than Wleaks

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You sit there and keep waiting Margaret, lifes to short ;)

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I see you are not accustomed to multi-tasking when a 10 min wait for one means a simulataneous exploration of 10 more

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No Margaret I wouldn't be interested in the site anyway as I said life's to short;)

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I am just ensuring that I won't die wondering;)


knowledge is power

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:D:D:D:DNot much chance of that Margaret;)

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I read comment on the leaks ... and some of the leaks themselves .... what surprises me is that folks are, well, surprised at the contents and the directions of US foreign policy. Catching the general drift, I don't see much that the great American public would not agree with. The irony, the paradox, I'm pondering (that's what lots of people do while drinking their first cup of mud, and catching up on the news) is that countries which claim to be free societies (I say "claim", not "are") are ones which keep their people uninformed, and generally in the dark about what they are doing in foreign and domestic policy. I do believe that what WikiLeaks promotes the health of democracy. Unfortunately, the great democracies will respond in the wrong way, circling the wagons, so to speak.

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why?::hehetable

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Because - the truth is out there :D

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YouTube - The X-Files Theme Song (Techno Trance Remix)
or so they say:D

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Love your picture - Rex and Fluff as well, ask Mez about Rex, he used to stop the Ribble bus, so she didn't have to run as fast to catch it.:D

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When the Israelis took out the Iraqi nuclear power station they overflew Saudi - and then complained that the hazard lights on the 40T2 radar at Tabuk were not working.

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Mossad dont need to 'fly over'.
They are murdering the scientists that operate the nuclear plants.

One today -
Iranian nuclear scientist 'killed by Mossad or the CIA' - Telegraph
..and another earlier this year -
France24 - Nuclear scientist killed in bomb blast; foreign ministry blames US, Israel

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Seem to remember when the Tabuk radar/ tracking stuff was upgraded it was installed 180° out (North being South and South being North ) caused a bit of a flap for a few hours . :D :D

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WikiLeaks plans to release a U.S. bank's documents | Reuters
The banks and the pharmacutical companies info will be following soon.

like christmas every day :D

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think the Phamacutical company documents could be interesting especially if it shows some sort of ratio for development/manufacturing costs v retail costs .

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Ir's been hard, the past couple of days, to avoid hearing and reading lots about the leaks. But, really, is there anything in them which surprises anyone? It's just politics without the PCism that politicians spout in their public announcements.

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Whats your point?
Are you for or against it?

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I've rarely seen a more disingenuous post than this.

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Hell Eric stop using long words on here:D

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The info revealed by Wikileaks is limited to what whistleblowers have revealed.
It is mainly focused on the devious dealings of the government of the USA, because their sloppy security allowed vast numbers of military personnel computer access to that info.
Wikileaks does not comment or draw conclusions from the info supplied.
It just exists to publicise the info which has been revealed.

We should not conclude that the info represents 'all there is to know', since those revelations are just the tip of an iceburg of secret dealings.

Maybe it will encourage more whistleblowers to reveal what they know, which is a good thing to happen. A true democracy should not have secrets.

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Don't be silly.

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It would be nice to have some Wikileaks from HBC - or even ASFC.

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I leaked about the salt delivery

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So you think that politicians have the right to lie?
Here's one who didn't - maybe it was the reason for his assassination which happened a few weeks later.

Transcript of speech that President John F. Kennedy gave at the Waldorf-Astoria Hotel on April 27, 1961

"The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and secret proceedings. We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers which are cited to justify it. Even today, there is little value in opposing the threat of a closed society by imitating its arbitrary restrictions."

"For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence--on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations."

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At the end of the day what will it bring ? And are we really surprised at the depths of some of these "Scandals".That we're more aware of the deceit & lies so we'll trust them even less than we do now ? Think the trust of the public is already there. No I don't see any great changes, perhaps a reshufle of the most embarrassing proponents but that's it. You & I won't have any more money in the bank, we won't have more jobs or food on the table from it all, just more seething resentment.

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Kennedy was assassinated 22nd November 1963 - more than a few weeks later, I think.

Idiot.

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OK - I should have said 'years'
YouTube - jfk speech that got him killed

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If lives are at stake then yes

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so are ya saying john f kennedy was as honest as the day is long? utter ballcocks, or did he just tell the truth in that instance?:rolleyes:

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You have previously said that JFK lost credibilty with you because of his marital infidelities.
No-one can be aware of the status of a marriage unless you are in it.
Since Jaqueline Kennedy's death, facts have come to light that indicate that she was aware of his promiscuous lifestyle and she was indulging in infidelity herself.

If the integrity of a politician is dependant on a monogamous marriage then few politicians can be deemed to have any integrity.

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balls its either "Truth or Lies" aint selective.;)

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Really!:confused: Normally, I eschew obfuscation;)

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These WikiLeaks could be the non-event of the decade. I'm reminded of Comet Kohoutek.

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Margaret, Margaret, politicians don't lie they just bend the truth double:D

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ehhhhhhhhhh:confused::D

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Right..... Just keep practising those "eh"s, and you may just turn into a Canadian;).

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The nearest I'll get to a Canadian is a Canadian Club with dry ginger mate:D

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If you must use ginger in it at least use a decent one Jays, "Crabbies" springs to mind :D Just ask the Spugster, he'll explain ! ;)

And as to Canadian Club what are Wiki-leaks saying about that, that it isn't proper Whisky :eek: Well everyone knows that already :s_spit:

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Used to work behind a bar in the 70s and everyody drank CC with DG, anyway I'm not Crabbie, I'm very even tempered really:D

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Canadian Club:eek: Dishwater. Crown Royal:mosher: Forty Creek, even better. Canadian Club, and Canada Dry Ginger Ale are both owned by you Brits. Ironically, when our unruly neighbours decided to kick the crap out of Iraq and were boycotting Canadian products because we thought it was a crappy idea, two of the things they wouldn't buy were CC and CD.:rolleyes:

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I'm, begining to think all/some of this wiki leak stuff has been engineered by Bill Clinton ..... Lots of folks upset at the US. , Hillary does the 'right' and honourable thing, takes responsibility (though not actually involved , stuff was done under her name) and falls on her sword ,and resigns . Now she is out of Govt. she is free to set up a challenge to Obomba in 2012 for the nomination. ;) :D

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Hilary v Sarah....that would make an entertaining cat fight.

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If all this about leaked documents is true, how come the keepers of these documents didn't notice they were missing.
Surely these moles would have been discovered before now.
Its a hell of a lot of paper work to carry around, then suddenly release all in one go, or is it another of those conspiracy do's like Roswell and the one about Armstrong never went to the moon. Haven't read any of it, apart from what I've read on here, to me its a load of cobblers, some folk will believe owt.

Retlaw

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Mmmmm. I'd pay to watch that. :D:D:D:D

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Hilary all the way ... this wide-assed attitudinal ball breaker could take Sarah anytime.:mosher:

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Love to be at the weigh in:D

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Well she saw off Cigar smoking Monica:rolleyes: :eek::D

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She might just splash out on a new dress for the occasion:D

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Mmmm, co-incidence or not

Interpol Issues Wanted Notice For Julian Assange - Slashdot

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Moma Bear Palin for me ! Easily outweighs that scrawny Clinton Binter :D And she could get Clinton in a head lock & still have her arms free ! :flasher8::s_aim1:

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Well knowing what Clintons like she wouldn't have to try that hard with that head lock would she heeeeeeeeelo:D

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Seems like this lady means business:D
WikiLeaks: Sarah Palin demands Julian Assange hunted down like Al Qaeda terrorist | Mail Online

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He is being hounded.
I doubt they will succeed because he has an 'insurance arrangement', which is -
A file of the most explosive information which has been published online encripted.
In the event of his death, or shutdown of wikileaks, the encription code to unlock it will be broadcasted, and then the really juicy stuff will be known

That encripted file has been extensively downloaded to worldwide home computers by people who value freedom of information.

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Whats your Password Magaret:D

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I suppose it will be as explosive as the Millenium Bug:D

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My computer has never been the same since Barrie:D

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Wikileaks was down - now back here -
Cable Viewer
(for those interested)
I hope to be able to provide the changes in the address as they happen.
The attempts at shutdown are intensifying.

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Not really bothered really Margaret, if there's out juicy they show it on the News:rolleyes:

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That raised a chuckle;)

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It is my sole intention in life to make members of Accy Web smile, except Mancie that is, and he's passed it :D

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There are rumours on the web that the encrypted 'most juicy' info file involves -
The Gulf of Aden Vortex - a recently developed magnetic anomaly.

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Thank god for that. The story that I heard was that it involved the Oswaldtwistle - Stanhill Vortex, a magnetic anomaly drawing in all sorts of weird stuff and far more powerful.

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You keep your eye on it Margaret, saves the rest of us from bothering:D

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Ya there's a bloke called Tealeaf who has been seen toddling around Ossy occasionally:p:p

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If you can't be bothered, you don't need to know, or for some, prefer not to know.

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Margaret, whatever is revealed it won't make a blind bit of difference to joe public and when all's said and done its not about the future but about the past, onward and upward is the way forward not keep looking over our shoulders at what the Yanks said about us or what we said about the Yanks or anybody else for that matter, you can't unsay words;)

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If you had googled 'gulf of Aden vortex' you would realise that it is about the present and future.

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I googled it but none if the sites that came up looked trustworthy, just conspiracy sites and other iffy looking ones

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If I google Chelsea it'll tell me they are the present and the future Champions too:D

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Of course it is not all bad news especially If you are a betting person.

Next years Eurovision Song Contest results have just been announced.:hehetable

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Oh don't tell me Beni England got nil points again:D

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No we got two I will be Putin a tenner on Ima Sonoffabitch.:hehetable:hidewall::hidewall:

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BBC News - Wikileaks: UK 'feared Megrahi prison death'
Oops thought the westminster government had nout to do with this:eek:

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couple of points
1 .... I'm getting suspicious about this .....the Murdoch owned 24 hour Fox News (in the US) ,think it's Sky News in the UK seem to be coming out in favour of this Assuge guy, lots of chatter how the 'rape' accusation is a set up , and the UK courts being political controlled .
2.. Thing I don't understand ... Murdoch owned media in the US is blatently anti-British yet he is allowed to control vast swathes of British media , are there no controls on foriegn ownership ? here in the US all News media has to be at least 51% domestically owned (thats why Murdoch took out US citzenship) , same with airlines , Richard Branson is only allowed to own a minority share of Virgin America an Easyjet/Ryan Air type carrier .

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I noticed the retaliation cyber attack on Mastercard when I tried to repeat order from a herbal remedy site and the payment page wouldn't function.
I telephoned the company and processed payment that way.

I don't mind that slight inconvenience since 'it was all in a good cause'

http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKL3E6N80HH20101210

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All well and good Margaret if you think screwing about with online payment facilities is in a good cause, don't seem to agree with you on this front;)

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thats gotta be the daftest comment i seen on here n ive made some daft uns meself. "In a good Cause":rolleyes:

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To retaliate against censorship and aim for 'freedom of the Internet'.
I care about freedom of expression - maybe some of you don't.

PS the internet is the only place where news that is not controlled by the media moguls is available

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And this crap is putting thousands of our troops lives on the line, and for what, just to keep the conspiracy theorists happy:mad:

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I request a few moments in your day to watch this view of humanity from outside the box.
It contains some violence so avoid it if you are squeamish (or do not wish to be concerned) Your free will is my concern.
YouTube - The Story of Your Enslavement

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Its a bit bloody late for me to be concerned:rolleyes:

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this is getting dafter than ever, free speech is fine by me, but i realize everything has limits,in other words theres a line wi all things that should not be crossed, maybe some of you are too dense to see that fact.:rolleyes:

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Can you believe he asked the judge to keep his bail address a secret?

What a plonker he has shown himself to be.

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I think that his request was a small favour to ask in view of the shabby way our 'justice' system has treated him.
......locked in solitary without being charged with anything - shame!!!!
A US senator seems to be the only honest politician to say 'don't shoot the messenger'
YouTube - "Some Questions To Consider" Ron Paul Defends WikiLeaks "Killing The Messenger For Bad News"

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Your having a laugh - the man who wants nothing to be a secret wants his address to be secret.

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If you had Sarah Palin making death threats at you - wouldn't you? :D