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cmonstanley 03-02-2011 20:15

Beagle dog stabbed to death - This is sick
 
this is sick Beagle dog stabbed to death in Accrington (From Lancashire Telegraph) i would be very worried about this .who or what is going to be the next victim.it is a known fact that serial killers start with animals if anybody knows anything i would report it straight away.this is scary kinda justifies moving away.

garinda 03-02-2011 20:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 880389)
justifies moving away.

Type your address.

Within ten minutes I'll post ten similary cruel, and mindless acts of violence, committed within five miles of where you live.

There are sick and evil people all over the place.

Some can even drive cars, and therefore travel.

;)

garinda 03-02-2011 20:40

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It was sad.

Details were scant in the Observer.

Said the dog had been re-homed, but didn't name the owner, or why the dog was allowed to be in a position were it could be attacked, by whoever, or whatever.

***Mr D*** 03-02-2011 21:01

Sick.

Did this not happen a while ago. Wonder why it's only being released now?

cashman 03-02-2011 21:13

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whilst its sick, there was a 96 yr old lady, in her bed in a rest home, bed was set on fire n poor sod burnt alive, get things in perspective mate. this was on news tonight on the Beeb. that wasn't in accy/hyndburn, where yeh gonna move to when summat happens up yon?:rolleyes:

garinda 03-02-2011 21:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 880421)
whilst its sick, there was a 96 yr old lady, in her bed in a rest home, bed was set on fire n poor sod burnt alive, get things in perspective mate. this was on news tonight on the Beeb. that wasn't in accy/hyndburn, where yeh gonna move to when summat happens up yon?:rolleyes:

Since both crimes took place in the U.K., perhaps he'll now have to emigrate to a place with no scum.

Antarctica's meant to have a low crime rate.

:rolleyes:

cashman 03-02-2011 21:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 880423)
Since both crimes took place in the U.K., perhaps he'll now have to emigrate to a place with no scum.

Antarctica's meant to have a low crime rate.

:rolleyes:

Dunno them Polar Bears can be bad sods.:D

MargaretR 03-02-2011 21:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 880427)
Dunno them Polar Bears can be bad sods.:D

Polar bears are Arctic
There are some pretty big penguins in the Antarctic who can be a bit snappy;)

cmonstanley 03-02-2011 21:40

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just did, not anything as sick as that within a 5 mile radius. i have got things into perspective both are highly sick.youve both missed the point people who kill people starton animals first to stab it 22 times is the sign of a nut case of the highest order.

wallop79 03-02-2011 21:46

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whenever this sick bastard is caught their punishment should start with 18 stabs wounds, an eye for an eye an all that

Eric 03-02-2011 22:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 880423)
Since both crimes took place in the U.K., perhaps he'll now have to emigrate to a place with no scum.

Antarctica's meant to have a low crime rate.

:rolleyes:

Antarctica has quite a few people living there now. If Captain Oates wandered out of his tent these days, he would probably bump into someone with a thermos and some decent winter gear Or maybe a mugger, intent on stealing his famous last words.;)

May I recommend the Barren Grounds. Lots of room. All the way from Hudson Bay to the Great Bear and Great Slave Lakes.

But there does appear to be a strong link between violence to animals and violence to often weak and defenceless humans. I know that the Kingston Police and the Ontario Provincial Police work very closely with the local humane societies, not only to punish acts of cruelty to animals, but also to share information in order to protect vulnerable humans or animals who might be at risk from some complete waste of skin asshole.

garinda 03-02-2011 22:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 880430)
just did, not anything as sick as that within a 5 mile radius. i have got things into perspective both are highly sick.youve both missed the point people who kill people starton animals first to stab it 22 times is the sign of a nut case of the highest order.

You're right.

You'd be justified in wanting to leave a country in which such attacks occur.

Don't forget your passport.

mallard 03-02-2011 22:24

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Yes i do agree that if they get this person what has done that they should lock him up for life.

garinda 03-02-2011 22:30

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Details are still very scant.

First they thought it was attacked by another animal, then decided it was stabbed. Presumably not by another dog.

Where did the dog live?

How did it get to the place where it died?

Who owns, and was responsible for the care of the dog?

Nothing.

Usual, hysterical, and bad reporting.

garinda 03-02-2011 22:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wallop79 (Post 880434)
whenever this sick bastard is caught their punishment should start with 18 stabs wounds, an eye for an eye an all that


...if it does turn out to be another dog that did this, will you do it?

cmonstanley 03-02-2011 22:46

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your still missing the point, there is some nutter wandering round accrington with a knife stabbing 22 times on something he just came across.

garinda 03-02-2011 23:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 880463)
your still missing the point, there is some nutter wandering round accrington with a knife stabbing 22 times on something he just came across.

No. You're missing the point.

Details are scant.

Most R.S.P.C.A. officers are very nice people, who just happen to like animals. They are not veterinary pathologists.

One minute they think it was attacked by another animal. Next they decide it was stabbed.

Factual evidence, and details are scant.

Whatever happpened was obviously horrific.

Every day gross acts of cruelty are carried out against living creatures. Little boys pulling the wings off insects, mice are poisoned, wasps are attacked by chemical weapons, and are gassed to death.

Never the same outaged cries when the creature isn't cute and fluffy, with a wet nose.

Apparently a man was stabbed in Accrington today. Judging from the number of concerned posts, we can arrive at a theory about which story provokes the most passion.

Still, if this justifies your decision to have left this area, there's always an upside.

Every cloud etc.

garinda 04-02-2011 00:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 880463)
your still missing the point, there is some nutter wandering round accrington with a knife stabbing 22 times on something he just came across.

You write so much guff, you should apply for a job on the local rag.

You posted 'he'.
- Where is there any evidence as to the gender of the attacker?

'Some nutter wandering round Accrington'.
- There is no factual evidence as to who, or what, killed this dog. Therefore no comment can be passed, regarding their mental health. There is also no evidence the killer is still in Accrington, wandering or not. Or if they are carrying a knife.

'Stabbing 22 times'.
- That's just blatantly incorrect. All press reports, including the linked one you gave, refer quite clearly to '18' wounds. At least try to be accurate, with what few facts there are.

Other than that, what you say is spot on.

;)

Eric 04-02-2011 00:16

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Although I would tend to be a little less acerbic, and having re-read the article, I fully agree with Garinda's points. Repeating, editing, and amplifying sensationalist journalism tends to obscure issues. Obviously, animal lovers and, in general, decent human beings tend to react emotionally to this incident ... esp. with that pic. But I don't see it as a sign that society is descending into chaos. Or if it is, it's one of way too many.

Eric 04-02-2011 00:17

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By the way, did I mention that I am an optimist;):D

garinda 04-02-2011 00:18

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Someone in London told me some sicko had been going round the east end of the city, carrying out savage attacks on good time gals. Ripping out some of their body parts.

I decided there and then, after so many years, that leaving this terrible place was the only justifiable thing to do.

Imagine my horror, upon moving to sedate and genteel Gloustorshire, that my lovely home on Cromwell Street, would prove to be as shocking.

So, belongings packed, I moved on to...

garinda 04-02-2011 00:21

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 880467)
Although I would tend to be a little less acerbic, and having re-read the article, I fully agree with Garinda's points. Repeating, editing, and amplifying sensationalist journalism tends to obscure issues. Obviously, animal lovers and, in general, decent human beings tend to react emotionally to this incident ... esp. with that pic. But I don't see it as a sign that society is descending into chaos. Or if it is, it's one of way too many.

Agreed.

This poor dog met a horrific, and sad end to it's life.

To me that doesn't signify there's some would be serial killer, roaming the streets of the town.

I'm yet to be convinced by any evidence as to what killed it. Man, or other beast.

garinda 04-02-2011 00:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 880468)
By the way, did I mention that I am an optimist;):D

Me too.

Making us easy targets, for any passing serial killer.

:D

jaysay 04-02-2011 09:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 880430)
just did, not anything as sick as that within a 5 mile radius. i have got things into perspective both are highly sick.youve both missed the point people who kill people starton animals first to stab it 22 times is the sign of a nut case of the highest order.

But since you moved back over the border CS you keep pointing out what you see as faults, I worked in Glasgow on many occasions and there wasn't a day went by that there wasn't murders or violence reported, Its not just something that happens in Accy, watch some of these animal programs featuring the nspca and you'll find animal cruelty happening nation wide, unfortunately

cmonstanley 04-02-2011 11:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 880517)
But since you moved back over the border CS you keep pointing out what you see as faults, I worked in Glasgow on many occasions and there wasn't a day went by that there wasn't murders or violence reported, Its not just something that happens in Accy, watch some of these animal programs featuring the nspca and you'll find animal cruelty happening nation wide, unfortunately

sweep sweep you's still dont get it:confused:

cmonstanley 04-02-2011 11:19

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even if it was killed by another dog there wouldnt be 22 puncture wounds its a known fact dogs go for the one area and dont mess around other parts of the body.

garinda 04-02-2011 11:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 880567)
even if it was killed by another dog there wouldnt be 22 puncture wounds its a known fact dogs go for the one area and dont mess around other parts of the body.

:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

It was eighteen wounds, not twenty two!

You can't even get that right.

:gooddog:

***Mr D*** 04-02-2011 12:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 880567)
even if it was killed by another dog there wouldnt be 22 puncture wounds its a known fact dogs go for the one area and dont mess around other parts of the body.

And you know this how?

Its a "Known Fact" I have not heard of.

katex 04-02-2011 15:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 880464)

Every day gross acts of cruelty are carried out against living creatures. Little boys pulling the wings off insects, mice are poisoned, wasps are attacked by chemical weapons, and are gassed to death.



.

Your replies to this thread surprise me Garinda, the above is different ... they are vermin. It is noted though that kids that pulls wings off flies are showing early signs of cruelty. As to the wasps, yes, I spray them because they scare me and treat it as a form of defence before they get me... :eek:

Could you actually do this to someone's pet ? I feel sure you wouldn't, you are a kind person. They are accepted as part of a family and well loved. The 'killer' obviously had no thought for other people's heartbreak. I agree with the R.S.P.C.A. comment that it could lead later to attacking a human being as obviously was some sort of big kick to them, and would look for something more satisfying.

It is a criminal offence too.

Less 04-02-2011 15:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by katex (Post 880593)
Your replies to this thread surprise me Garinda, the above is different ... they are vermin. It is noted though that kids that pulls wings off flies are showing early signs of cruelty. As to the wasps, yes, I spray them because they scare me and treat it as a form of defence before they get me... :eek:

Could you actually do this to someone's pet ? I feel sure you wouldn't, you are a kind person. They are accepted as part of a family and well loved. The 'killer' obviously had no thought for other people's heartbreak. I agree with the R.S.P.C.A. comment that it could lead later to attacking a human being as obviously was some sort of big kick to them, and would look for something more satisfying.

It is a criminal offence too.

You know him, he didn't surprise you, you are using your usual high and mighty tactic.
Curious children do and always have pulled the wings off insects, it depends on the adults around them to explain that it is cruel, without guidance we are all lost.
But surely, you can be forgiven for killing your wasps, you aren't doing it slowly or with pleasure, you are doing it because they give you fear.

garinda 04-02-2011 15:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by katex (Post 880593)
Your replies to this thread surprise me Garinda, the above is different ... they are vermin. It is noted though that kids that pulls wings off flies are showing early signs of cruelty. As to the wasps, yes, I spray them because they scare me and treat it as a form of defence before they get me... :eek:

Could you actually do this to someone's pet ? I feel sure you wouldn't, you are a kind person. They are accepted as part of a family and well loved. The 'killer' obviously had no thought for other people's heartbreak. I agree with the R.S.P.C.A. comment that it could lead later to attacking a human being as obviously was some sort of big kick to them, and would look for something more satisfying.

It is a criminal offence too.

First off there seems very little actual evidence that this poor dog was stabbed.

Secondly, even if it was, this does not mean there's a would be serial killer wandering the streets of the town with a knife, as Giddy Gertie posted.

Thirdly, this area has no greater share than anywhere else, when it comes to sickos, and to use it as a good reason to justify leaving the area, is ludicrous.

Lastly, as usual our local reporters prefer sensationalism, rather than good journalism.

No mention as to who owned, and was responsible for it's care.

No medical evidence given that it was stabbed, rather than attacked by another animal. Which the R.S.P.A. officer initially thought it had been.

No mention where the dog lived, and the distance from where it was found.

No mention of a vet's pathology report.

Just hysteria. Which is mirrored in this thread.

As stated, this animal suffered a terrible death.

At this point everything else is just wild conjecture.

Give me facts any day, rather than hyperventiled scaremongering.

Less 04-02-2011 15:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 880598)

Give me facts any day, rather than hyperventiled scaremongering.

Absolutely, I'm sick and tired of folk claiming things have happened with no proof (or worse with blarney, can get the site into trouble), but worse than that expecting us all to believe them.

Given facts we deal with them.

Given rumour we panic.

katex 04-02-2011 15:51

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Irrelevant of the newspaper's report ... you were negating the viciousness of this crime, and to someone's remark about leaving the area and other area's being just as bad does not make it any less of a crime.

Have you read the Telegraph report ? Does say belonged to a couple who had just rescued it from the Altham Animal Centre. The initial remark of fighting was just an observation before being able to inspect the dog ... the R.S.P.C.A do have vets working with them, and sure a thorough pathology report was prepared.

This person has to be caught (whoever it was) before he/she strikes again.

DaveinGermany 04-02-2011 15:55

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News article, confirming the attack on the Dog with a Knife. It was in September last year.

Beagle dog stabbed 18 times and dumped in Accrington pond in brutal killing | Accrington Observer - menmedia.co.uk

garinda 04-02-2011 15:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 880603)
Given rumour we panic.

...and I get acerbic, apparently.

Which I think is Canadian for nastily sour.

He posted, acerb...

Whoops.

:rolleyes::D

garinda 04-02-2011 16:02

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 880607)
News article, confirming the attack on the Dog with a Knife. It was in September last year.

Beagle dog stabbed 18 times and dumped in Accrington pond in brutal killing | Accrington Observer - menmedia.co.uk

That's the shoddy report we've all read, as well as in the LT.

Care to post where there's medical evidence that they are stab wounds?

Rather than the thoughts of someone not trained in veterinary pathology, who at first thought he poor dog was attacked by another dog.

garinda 04-02-2011 16:09

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'discovered by dog walkers hours after its death'

'died between 3.30 and 9.45 on the morning of Saturday, September 25.'

Beagle dog stabbed 18 times and dumped in Accrington pond in brutal killing | Accrington Observer - menmedia.co.uk

Wow, bang up to date news.

Though the report doesn't actually say which September.

Knowing the cutting edge sleuths employed by the Observer, it could very well be 1974.

Top clas journalism.

Like having our own little Washington Post.

Should be up for a Pulitzer prize.

Less 04-02-2011 16:15

Leave 1974 alone it was one of my good years, ( apart from haircuts, shirts, flaired jeans and bad taste in general, well, like this post).

DaveinGermany 04-02-2011 16:16

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Can't give you absolutes as there isn't a copy of the Vet/examiners report, but reading what is written :-

It was first thought he was killed in a barbaric dog fight, but post-mortem results showed no evidence of fighting.

The stab wounds were pretty much all over - the abdomen, chest, neck and jaw. The dog would have struggled like crazy to get away.

The presumption by the RSPCA officer of it being bites was just that, a first assumption. "Post Mortem results" Would infer that the vet/examiner had seen the injuries & confirmed them as stab wounds which is then stated in the article.

garinda 04-02-2011 16:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by katex (Post 880605)
Irrelevant of the newspaper's report ... you were negating the viciousness of this crime

Absolute rubbish!

Again, provide some facts to back up that inaccurate claim.

Please quote where I have done that.

I have only refered to this poor animal's death as being horrific.

I've merely pointed out the lack of medical evidence as to how it was attacked, and the shoddy way in which it was reported.

Eric 04-02-2011 16:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 880608)
...and I get acerbic, apparently.

Which I think is Canadian for nastily sour.

He posted, acerb...

Whoops.

:rolleyes::D

Nah ... Canadian for "nastily sour" is "nastily sour, eh";) Maybe "trenchant" (0r "trenchant, eh") ... mmm.

garinda 04-02-2011 16:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 880621)
Can't give you absolutes as there isn't a copy of the Vet/examiners report, but reading what is written :-

It was first thought he was killed in a barbaric dog fight, but post-mortem results showed no evidence of fighting.

The stab wounds were pretty much all over - the abdomen, chest, neck and jaw. The dog would have struggled like crazy to get away.

The presumption by the RSPCA officer of it being bites was just that, a first assumption. "Post Mortem results" Would infer that the vet/examiner had seen the injuries & confirmed them as stab wounds which is then stated in the article.

I only deal in absolutes.

No.

I've changed ny mind.

SERIAL KILLER!

Run! Run!

I'm out of here!

katex 04-02-2011 16:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 880622)
Absolute rubbish!

Again, provide some facts to back up that inaccurate claim.

Please quote where I have done that.

I have only refered to this poor animal's death as being horrific.

I've merely pointed out the lack of medical evidence as to how it was attacked, and the shoddy way in which it was reported.

Ok ... but does come across that you were more concerned with the newspaper's 'sloppy' report than the thread poster's concern for this 'horrific incident'.

garinda 04-02-2011 16:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 880625)
Nah ... Canadian for "nastily sour" is "nastily sour, eh";) Maybe "trenchant" (0r "trenchant, eh") ... mmm.

Trenchant I like.

(I actually liked acerbic.)

Trenchant means I won't need to buy anymore caustic soda.

I can merely make cutting remarks at my poor drains.

Bless 'em.

:rolleyes:

Less 04-02-2011 16:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by katex (Post 880627)
Ok ... but does come across that you were more concerned with the newspaper's 'sloppy' report than the thread poster's concern for this 'horrific incident'.

Oh, yawn,

Your interpretation.

Get real, rather than phoney 'holier than thou'.

katex 04-02-2011 16:38

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 880631)
Oh, yawn,

Your interpretation.

Get real, rather than phoney 'holier than thou'.

Well, other people interpreted as this Less ... not just me.
'Holier than Thou' ??? :rofl38:Know I played a nun in the last play, but as soon as I step off stage I drop the character.

garinda 04-02-2011 16:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by katex (Post 880627)
Ok ... but does come across that you were more concerned with the newspaper's 'sloppy' report than the thread poster's concern for this 'horrific incident'.

The initial post I thought misleading because there isn't evidence there's a would be serial killer, wandering the streets of the town, still clutching a knife.

Nor is there any evidence that this horrific killing means there are more sickos in Accrington, than anywhere else.

I found it hysterical, and scaremongering.

The fact that it happened in some undated 'September', makes it even more hypobolic.

Wasn't there some sick idiot in Clayton, cruelly butchering chickens, the other year?

Turned out he was a squaddie.

A drunk, idiotic solider on leave.

I haven't seen any reports that he's since turned into Fred West.

garinda 04-02-2011 16:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by katex (Post 880627)
Ok ... but does come across that you were more concerned with the newspaper's 'sloppy' report than the thread poster's concern for this 'horrific incident'.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 880389)
this is sick Beagle dog stabbed to death in Accrington (From Lancashire Telegraph) i would be very worried about this .who or what is going to be the next victim.it is a known fact that serial killers start with animals if anybody knows anything i would report it straight away.this is scary kinda justifies moving away.

No.

I just found it hysterical, and lacking in fact.

garinda 04-02-2011 16:47

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It happened in September!

Which, we don't know.

Just as we don't know who was responsible for the dog's care, or the area in which the poor thing lived.

Factually shoddy.

Uncurrent as a news story.

Shockingly, sadly, sensationalist.

Less 04-02-2011 16:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by katex (Post 880633)
Well, other people interpreted as this Less ... not just me.
'Holier than Thou' ??? :rofl38:Know I played a nun in the last play, but as soon as I step off stage I drop the character.

Feeling guilty about your wasps does not make you a better person, try your best to live with the guilt.

I have to, as a child I ripped the wings off Angels.

Margaret Pilkington 04-02-2011 17:57

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There must be a very sad lack of local news, for this(old) story to make the front page of the local newspapers.

garinda 04-02-2011 17:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 880672)
There must be a very sad lack of local news, for this(old) story to make the front page of the local newspapers.

Thank you.

I feared I'd entered a parallel universe.

Boeing Guy 04-02-2011 18:02

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Who said Glasgow was any better?
Man, 29, held over stab murder

jaysay 04-02-2011 18:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by katex (Post 880627)
Ok ... but does come across that you were more concerned with the newspaper's 'sloppy' report than the thread poster's concern for this 'horrific incident'.

Kate I think G thought the same about this article as myself, the original poster was trying to make out that he was glad he'd moved away from Accy intimating that things like this only happen in Accy, which to be quite frank is utter nonsense

jaysay 04-02-2011 18:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by katex (Post 880633)
Well, other people interpreted as this Less ... not just me.
'Holier than Thou' ??? :rofl38:Know I played a nun in the last play, but as soon as I step off stage I drop the character.

If I'd have known I'd have payed good money to see you playing a nun Kate, any pics:D

jaysay 04-02-2011 18:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Boeing Guy (Post 880677)
Who said Glasgow was any better?
Man, 29, held over stab murder

Exactly BG thats what I said in an earlier thread;)

garinda 04-02-2011 18:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Boeing Guy (Post 880677)
Who said Glasgow was any better?
Man, 29, held over stab murder

Glasgow?

Wasn't actually sure where north of the border they lived.

I lived there from 2001 - 2004, and even in the swanky West End you did get to hear about all kinds of sick and evil crimes, committed within that great city's boundaries.

Purr-lease.

There's nowhere immune from sad sickos.

jaysay 04-02-2011 18:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 880697)
Glasgow?

Wasn't actually sure where north of the border they lived.

I lived there from 2001 - 2004, and even in the swanky West End you did get to hear about all kinds of sick and evil crimes, committed within that great city's boundaries.

Purr-lease.

There's nowhere immune from sad sickos.

Ya lived in the West End did ya G, I wasn't so fortuneate when I worked there, I stayed in Bells Hill:eek::eek::eek::eek:

garinda 04-02-2011 18:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 880701)
Ya lived in the West End did ya G, I wasn't so fortuneate when I worked there, I stayed in Bells Hill:eek::eek::eek::eek:

Yes I did.

Lovely, just like the city itself.

Even Bellshill, which is practically in the countryside.

:D

katex 04-02-2011 18:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 880683)
If I'd have known I'd have payed good money to see you playing a nun Kate, any pics:D

No chance of pics... no make-up on.. :D

jaysay 04-02-2011 18:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by katex (Post 880705)
No chance of pics... no make-up on.. :D

Oh it was a Helenna Rigby was it:D

jaysay 04-02-2011 18:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 880704)
Yes I did.

Lovely, just like the city itself.

Even Bellshill, which is practically in the countryside.

:D

Well not exactly G more like the bloody Wild West mate:uzi::uzi::uzi:

cmonstanley 04-02-2011 19:02

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accrington is a town not a city, why bring glasgow up i dont live anywhere near glasgow i live by the sea and i havent heard of any dogs been stabbed 22 times in the early hours nearby ;)do you not think it is a bit worrying when somebody does this to anything 22 times is this thought of as normal now same as the perv whos been hanging about peel park school it happens in other places so its alright i just dont get it or has accrington sunk to even lower depths that things like this are the norm

garinda 04-02-2011 19:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 880716)
i havent heard of any dogs been stabbed 22 times

We haven't here, either.

It was eighteen times!

Read your own link!

Try and get one fact right, at least.

cmonstanley 04-02-2011 19:19

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was it;)

garinda 04-02-2011 19:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 880716)
accrington is a town not a city, why bring glasgow up i dont live anywhere near glasgow i live by the sea and i havent heard of any dogs been stabbed 22 times in the early hours nearby ;)do you not think it is a bit worrying when somebody does this to anything 22 times is this thought of as normal now same as the perv whos been hanging about peel park school it happens in other places so its alright i just dont get it or has accrington sunk to even lower depths that things like this are the norm

By the sea?

I notice you refused my offer of providing actual evidence of equally sad horrors, committed within a short radius from where you live, by not posting your address.

I also provide this service, supplying evidence of sex crimes carried out in any particular area, going back to 1840.

If you're too scared, and fear being attacked by a serial killer, a simple postcode will suffice.

Your choice.

Oh, and remember, as they say on Crimewatch, don't have nightmares.

;)

garinda 04-02-2011 19:31

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Well, sadly this national newspaper story cropped up straight away.

Hunt for sex fiend | The Sun |Home Scotland|Scottish News

garinda 04-02-2011 19:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 880730)
Well, sadly this national newspaper story cropped up straight away.

Hunt for sex fiend | The Sun |Home Scotland|Scottish News


Ardrossan crime statistics

Sex pest's seedy calls to hotel staff / News / Roundup / Articles / Ayr Advertiser

Renfrewshire man admits torturing, mutilating and killing cats | Glasgow and West | STV News

I can't face anymore, just yet. It's sickening, the horrific crimes in your area.

cmonstanley 04-02-2011 19:47

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and they will catch the scum if he is local if they dont find his body down saltcoats beach;) i take it back but this is rare round here and isnt right either i live in a farmhouse about 4 miles from there but ive found something that happened that i never knew about but proves my theory

Mhairi Julyan murder; THE SCHOOLBOY WHO BECAME A MONSTER. - Free Online Library ;)

***Mr D*** 04-02-2011 19:48

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Police.uk - Local crime and policing information for England and Wales

;)

garinda 04-02-2011 19:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 880735)

One final link, then I rest my case.

Crackdown on sadists as animal cruelty prosecutions rise - The Daily Record

There are sick, sad, and evil individuals everywhere.

Though of course this does justify why I left my beautiful apartment in Glasgow's leafy West End.

:rolleyes:

:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

garinda 04-02-2011 19:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 880737)
and they will catch the scum if he is local if they dont find his body down saltcoats beach;) i take it back but this is rare round here and isnt right either i live in a farmhouse about 4 miles from there but ive found something that happened that i never knew about but proves my theory

Mhairi Julyan murder; THE SCHOOLBOY WHO BECAME A MONSTER. - Free Online Library ;)

Before any more sickening crimes are brought up, let's just agree that sadly there are horrors everywhere.

***Mr D*** 04-02-2011 19:58

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Statistics Search - Strathclyde Police

Might be better?

garinda 04-02-2011 20:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 880737)
and they will catch the scum if he is local if they dont find his body down saltcoats beach;) i take it back but this is rare round here and isnt right either i live in a farmhouse about 4 miles from there but ive found something that happened that i never knew about but proves my theory

Mhairi Julyan murder; THE SCHOOLBOY WHO BECAME A MONSTER. - Free Online Library ;)

I'm afraid you've proved nothing.

Yes most serial killers start their perverted journey, by first exhibiting cruelty to animals.

However,the vast majority of naughty kids, pulling the wings off daddy longlegs, or similarly being cruel to other creatures etc., don't go on to become serial murderers.

It's as stupid, and factually unfounded, as saying that every dope smoker ends up a being a smack head.

They don't.

In either case.

cmonstanley 04-02-2011 20:02

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i would never live in glasgow and the crime statistics are still lower than the national average;) its usually junkie on junkie which is quite alright because i dont live near any in a 2 mile radius;) which proves my point people should be afraid of somebody who is wandering the streets early in the morning with a knife, stabbing a living being 18 times. up here i can watch my telly and sleep in peace without any chav or any plonkers making a noise and being anti-social and if you read the comment at the bottom proves thats its common knowledge that killers start on animals first Crackdown on sadists as animal cruelty prosecutions rise - The Daily Record

garinda 04-02-2011 20:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 880743)
I'm afraid you've proved nothing.

Yes most serial killers start their perverted journey, by first exhibiting cruelty to animals.

However,the vast majority of naughty kids, pulling the wings off daddy longlegs, or similarly being cruel to other creatures etc., don't go on to become serial murderers.

It's as stupid, and factually unfounded, as saying that every dope smoker ends up a being a smack head.

They don't.

In either case.

I know someone, now a vicar, who as a kid, used to put bangers up cat's backsides, and then light them.

Sick.

Sadly not so common.

garinda 04-02-2011 20:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 880744)
i would never live in glasgow and the crime statistics are still lower than the national average;) its usually junkie on junkie which is quite alright because i dont live near any in a 2 mile radius;) which proves my point people should be afraid of somebody who is wandering the streets early in the morning with a knife, stabbing a living being 18 times. up here i can watch my telly and sleep in peace without any chav or any plonkers making a noise and being anti-social and if you read the comment at the bottom proves thats its common knowledge that killers start on animals first Crackdown on sadists as animal cruelty prosecutions rise - The Daily Record


Whatever.

You've left.

As stated earlier.

One less hysterical Nelly.

Every cloud.

Silver lining.

Etc.

;)

cmonstanley 04-02-2011 20:10

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thats doing something once to an animal but this is eighteen times to one animal sick as it is a couple of times but eighteen times is a frenzy,somebody very angry or even done with no emotion is scarier.what were they doing up there at that time next youll be saying its the sas on a training excercise..

garinda 04-02-2011 20:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 880744)
i dont live near any in a 2 mile radius

Who mentioned two miles?

Actually, if you check post two, I stated within a five mile radius.

Check your facts.

Ok, going on previous posts, regarding actual facts, don't bother.

A boy from Ayrshire used to work for me.

He was a bit highly strung, and hysterical, though some called him simple minded too.

:rolleyes:

cmonstanley 04-02-2011 20:18

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im talking about through the fields the road will be about 5;) he must have been blending in with the company lol:D

garinda 04-02-2011 20:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 880750)
thats doing something once to an animal but this is eighteen times to one animal sick as it is a couple of times but eighteen times is a frenzy,somebody very angry or even done with no emotion is scarier.what were they doing up there at that time next youll be saying its the sas on a training excercise..

Try and calm yourself down.

It's not serial kilers you should be scared of.

It's getting yourself so worked up, you give yourself a giddy turn.

Fear can be a very worrying phobia.

cmonstanley 04-02-2011 20:26

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im no feart it should be the people of accy. just read about the guy near peel park school theres a lot of things happening near peel park my daughter used to go there and i used to walk my dog over the coppice its very wierd round there now..:(

cashman 04-02-2011 20:30

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get a life, theres been flashers etc around accy, and MANY other places since i was a lad n probably well before that.:rolleyes: i would crush em all under a rock, but thats summat else, :rolleyes:

garinda 04-02-2011 20:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 880755)
im no feart it should be the people of accy. just read about the guy near peel park school theres a lot of things happening near peel park my daughter used to go there and i used to walk my dog over the coppice its very wierd round there now..:(

Yes, the whole area's horrendous.

Perverts, serial killers, satanic abuse, witchcraft, murder most horrid.

Much worse than anywhere else in the country.

You were certainly justified in leaving the town.

In fact, I can't think why you're still wandering around this area's local internet forum.

You're being terribley brave.

Brave, at least for you.

cmonstanley 04-02-2011 20:50

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i was only stating a fact that accringtn is getting worse.it wasnt as bad as this when i moved to accy in the early nineties i had some good times there but i did remember there being a flasher that frequented the whalley road area. stating glasgow is like stating the crime statistics from manchester;) one thing they did do round here is get rid of kerelaw where one of the bulger killers was rumoured to have lived..we all know why acrrington has gone downhill there is 2 abodes which has been the reasons for this..

yerself 04-02-2011 20:57

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An incident such as the one reported in The Observer would never occur in Scotland of course.:rolleyes:

Case Studies: Terrible toll of animal cruelty in Scotland | Scotland | STV News
The Scottish SPCA have revealed that 2009 was the "worst in recent memory" for animal cruelty in Scotland.

The charity have released the details of a series of horrifying cases across the country that will shock animal lovers.

SSPCA launch animal cruelty probe after dog is starved to death in Edinburgh - The Daily Record
ANIMAL welfare officers are appealing for information after a dog was starved to death and thrown over a fence.

The body of the Staffordshire bull terrier was found in Edinburgh yesterday morning, in what the Scottish SPCA said was one of the worst cases of animal cruelty it had investigated.

cashman 04-02-2011 20:57

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please enlighten us about these 2 abodes, there is not a great deal of difference to me in accy from the early 90s to now. n i'm a damn site older than then n i do not think i have more to fear these days.:rolleyes:

garinda 04-02-2011 21:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 880764)
i was only stating a fact that accringtn is getting worse.it wasnt as bad as this when i moved to accy in the early nineties i had some good times there but i did remember there being a flasher that frequented the whalley road area. stating glasgow is like stating the crime statistics from manchester;) one thing they did do round here is get rid of kerelaw where one of the bulger killers was rumoured to have lived..we all know why acrrington has gone downhill there is 2 abodes which has been the reasons for this..

We'll live with it. More than happily.

Crime aside, just after you left...

Whoosh!

The area's average intelligence quota shot right up.

Odd that.

Swings and roundabouts.

Living in Dante's Inferno, but with kiddies with a much higher than average I.Q.

Nature's compensation.

Karma.

garinda 04-02-2011 21:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by yerself (Post 880768)
The body of the Staffordshire bull terrier was found in Edinburgh yesterday morning, in what the Scottish SPCA said was one of the worst cases of animal cruelty it had investigated.

Evil.

Evil and racist.

Poor English Staffy.

cmonstanley 04-02-2011 21:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by yerself (Post 880768)
An incident such as the one reported in The Observer would never occur in Scotland of course.:rolleyes:

Case Studies: Terrible toll of animal cruelty in Scotland | Scotland | STV News
The Scottish SPCA have revealed that 2009 was the "worst in recent memory" for animal cruelty in Scotland.

The charity have released the details of a series of horrifying cases across the country that will shock animal lovers.

SSPCA launch animal cruelty probe after dog is starved to death in Edinburgh - The Daily Record
ANIMAL welfare officers are appealing for information after a dog was starved to death and thrown over a fence.

The body of the Staffordshire bull terrier was found in Edinburgh yesterday morning, in what the Scottish SPCA said was one of the worst cases of animal cruelty it had investigated.

like i say comparing the full crime statisics of scotland is like comparing the crime statsicics for everything north of watford...if its in england or scotland its still sick or any country in the world its still sick i hope they catch the nethendral who done it in accy i hope good prevails over evil in accy there is still a lot of good people in accy but there is a proportion of people who want to spoil what was good in accy.it changed a lot for me like having a bit of peace and quiet would have helped .

garinda 04-02-2011 21:08

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I'm starting to side with the Romans, and see their point of view.

Anyone got as trowel?

cmonstanley 04-02-2011 21:16

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too late there is already a large scottish heritage in accrington from your library funded by carnegie, to the accy pipe band which always made me have a wry smile when it always led the st georges day parade and accy stanley with an all scottish team in fifties..:p

garinda 04-02-2011 21:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 880772)
like i say comparing the full crime statisics of scotland is like comparing the crime statsicics for everything north of watford...if its in england or scotland its still sick or any country in the world its still sick i hope they catch the nethendral who done it in accy i hope good prevails over evil in accy there is still a lot of good people in accy but there is a proportion of people who want to spoil what was good in accy.it changed a lot for me like having a bit of peace and quiet would have helped .

It didn't change.

It was our little joke.

We all got together, Royston Vasey meets Valley of the Dolls, and decided we'd pretend there was terrible, horrendous, things happening, until you felt justified into running to the hills.

How we collectivey laughed at your departure, and then returned to normal after Chicken George had skedaddled north of the border.

garinda 04-02-2011 21:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 880775)
too late there is already a large scottish heritage in accrington from your library funded by carnegie, to the accy pipe band which always made me have a wry smile when it always led the st georges day parade and accy stanley with an all scottish team in fifties..:p

Oh yeah.

Andrew Carnegie.

Where did he live?

Where all succesful Scots live.

Abroad!

Bye-bye Lulu, Sir Sean, Ewan, and the adorable Krankies.

At least you've still got mad Brian Souter, and dirty Tommy Sheridan.

Congratulations.

;)

cmonstanley 04-02-2011 21:25

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and how we laughed at playing the nationality card that that seeps of desperation you who didnt notice and walk with their eyes closed and like to sweep things under the carpet:rolleyes::p

garinda 04-02-2011 21:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 880781)
and how we laughed at playing the nationality card that that seeps of desperation you who didnt notice and walk with their eyes closed and like to sweep things under the carpet:rolleyes::p

Forum rules state all posts must be made in English.

Alan Varrechia 04-02-2011 21:42

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What's really sick is the tories want to bring back fox hunting. :eek:

cashman 04-02-2011 21:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Varrechia (Post 880789)
What's really sick is the tories want to bring back fox hunting. :eek:

suppose its better n Hunt The Peasant?:D

garinda 04-02-2011 21:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Varrechia (Post 880789)
What's really sick is the tories want to bring back fox hunting. :eek:


Perhaps it was a fox what done the dawg gone stabbin'.


Revenge attack, for being hounded.

wallop79 04-02-2011 22:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 880454)
...if it does turn out to be another dog that did this, will you do it?

Just how could another dog be responsible for stabbing this poor animal, it quite categorically states they are stab wounds not puncture wounds


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