Blue bins and blue bags
 

Can someone tell me why we have to seperate are bottles etc into these when the recycling wagon just mixes them together. Surely they could have used an ordanary bin wagon to do this without paying a fortune for the recycling wagon

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The recycling wagon has separate compartments for each of the different materials. I've asked about blue bins instead as I must admit I'd prefer one myself but we do save quite a bit of money by separating the waste on the doorstep.

We'd have to issue a blue wheelie bin to each of the 30,000+ homes in Hyndburn at a cost of around £20 a time for starters, we'd need a new fleet of wagons plus we'd have to pay a third party to separate the recycling at the other end.

I know it is being looked into and it is a much more convenient system for the residents I admit but at the moment money is exceptionally tight, hence my constant rantings on here about council waste.

Sorry I can't be more positive about it!

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Ok , then how does the recycling bin empty its load

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Over the street, judging by the litter on that day.
:D

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It has separate compartments in it, when the side lifts up it dumps the stuff in the side bins into the separate ones inside it. Never thought about how it empties the inside compartments though

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The simple answer is that I don't know but we're one of the top councils in the country on that score and the waste services team are extremely efficient.

It is the one area of the council I am quite prepared to leave well alone.

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great comment made me laugh ( very rare )


looking at the wagon it lookes like it just dumps it all out the back mixing the bottles etc together!

Surely it would have been cheaper to use the regular bin wagons they had plus giving us 1 wheely bin for bottles plastic etc then seperating the items at the recycling plant rather than buy a fleet of special wagons

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And take credit for if in office;)

Not very nice, if he planned to take credit he wouldn't have mentioned it now, AccyWeb has a long memory no matter which party has control, (haven't you Rindy?).

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so why do Blackburn with Darwen put all their recycling things in one huge bin then?

Because they don't need to keep recycling police checking the bins employed just to make sure we haven't put an envelope with a window in their White sack.
But I know a town that does.

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maybe we'll soon have to start seperating ourselves again very soon with all the major cutbacks that are happening within BwD

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The French system is much simpler. Metal, plastics and cardboard go into one bag and they sort it out later. In my commune in 2009 the local authority made a profit of 38,000 euro, and it is less than a quarter the size of Accrington, never mind Hyndburn.

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[QUOTE
looking at the wagon it lookes like it just dumps it all out the back mixing the bottles etc together! QUOTE]
why not ask the recycling fellas next time you see them? I'd ask for you but im at work when they collect mine

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BwD changed to that system a few years ago and it's an option open to every council to do so but it all boils down to finance. I suspect they're a more afflent council than Hyndburn and it isn't cheap to change systems.

Like I've said, it would be a less messy affair and I would personally welcome it from a resident's point of view but just at the moment I suspect it isn't financially practical for us to switch to a blue bin.

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They have just been round to empty our Blue sack, Blue Box and white sack.
But just noticed they have changed the wagons they used to be green and silver with 3 side loading compartments for the 3 separate items now they are all red with rear loading 2 compartments so whats the point in separating things out

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Yes, I am the AW archivist.

Otherwise known as the sad old elephant, who remembers what was said in every thread, going back to the big bang, when Accy Web was created.

All posts can be resurrected at anytime, and may be used in evidence against you.

:D

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Because someone else will have to sort your rubbish, there'll be greater costs involved.

Having to sort our own recycling in Hyndburn saves money.

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I'll get a statement from the Waste Management department then we can sort out how recycling collection is separated. However it is organised it will be the most efficient system available as the officers who run the department are continually looking at ways of improving things.

I find it highly unlikely that they will be using a system which is more costly than it needs to be.

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like i said surely this is a cheaper option rather than buying a FLEET of recycling wagons

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Why not submit a paper on it, detailing full costings and comparing the current system with the overall advantageous benefits of spending thousands on a new system which we cannot currently afford? It isn't quite a simple as reusing the same trucks as the household waste, there are many other cost implications but no doubt you have already anticipated this and have financial offset variances in order to compensate without massively increasing the waste budget and still meeting government targets.

Please feel free to let us know how you get on.

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Spoken like a true politician, placing responsibilty well away from himself.
:)

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I believe the expression is

:thefinger

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The above was a far more subtle way of telling someone to 'kiss off', than
:D

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Would seem your learning quicker than I thought Ken:D

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[quote=Ken Moss;882440]Why not submit a paper on it, detailing full costings and comparing the current system with the overall advantageous benefits of spending thousands on a new system which we cannot currently afford? It isn't quite a simple as reusing the same trucks as the household waste, there are many other cost implications but no doubt you have already anticipated this and have financial offset variances in order to compensate without massively increasing the waste budget and still meeting government targets.

no this is why asked!!

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you had a visit off the gestapo as well then lol

when the gestapo visited me a few years ago i made a counter offer of them paying me £10 per hour as a council employee part time to wash out tins,jars and sort paper into the appropiate place to cover water meter charges,heated water , storage on my property and danger money handleing the sharp edges on tins.

yes i was taking the mick i tend to when somone thumps on my front door enquiring about my waste habbits in the morining but the gestapo been the gestapo didnt have a sense of humour and left in a huff and as of yet my offer has not been responded to :)

Mine goes back a few years and is to do with fly tipping.
I lived in a gable end house, back alley ran along the side and behind the house.
Forever getting letters from them threatening, me.
But the worse one was when someone dumped a full set of wrought iron gates complete with the stand posts by the side of the house, they called at the door threatening retribution, I asked, where on this property would I be able to remove such items from just to dump them 2 yards away.
I think the case is still pending, I'll be lucky just to get a caution!
Job'sworths!

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some would say your gob :D:D:D:D

Hmmm, what you on?
Not your placid pills obviously, I wish you no ill but I do hope your bag splits at the most embarrassing moment and covers you in more than you attempted with that post.

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This week the recycling men left me an additional recycling receptacle - a blue bag with solid handles.:confused: (it's like an over large shopping bag)

I have a blue sack, which was emptied and returned.
So what is this blue bag for?

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Not entirely positive, Margaret, but think the handles have some sort of reflective yarn in them, so they can be seen when you place them outside. Dark mornings.

There again, makes it easier to carry and if it is squarer with a flatter base, doesn't blow away as easily.

Probably talking more rubbish than what's up the tip.

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I once took bottles and newspapers up to the Whinney Hill recycling centre with my partner, the bottle banks were full to overflowing and we were told to "just chuck them in there and shove your papers in as well" - there being a big skip full of hardcore and other assorted rubbish! I've been sceptical about recycling ever since!

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Has every body got um Margaret or only you, somebody brings mine in for me and puts it in the outside cupboard

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Just me in this block as far as I know.
I never half fill a blue sack so it can't be for 'overflow'.

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They maybe think your having a party at Christmas Margaret:D

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My good neighbour who manages my refuse for me, has told me that the large blue bag was full of empty Lucozade bottles and was placed next to our recycling boxes by persons unknown.

So it was not supplied by the recycling men and no near neighbours are known to drink Lucozade in such vast quantities.

The only local possible source is the workmen on the nearby building site, and the quantity could be a 6 months supply for a thirsty builder.

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Can't remember the last time I had a full sack.:idunno::hehetable

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leave it alone for a few days and you should be ok ;)

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Um I don't know Margaret Brandy and Lucozade is a very nice drink:D

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Me neither Beni:s_cry::s_cry:don't seem to use as many bottles as i used to:rolleyes: