The glorious leader must live!
 

It would appear that Councillor Britcliffe,LM, is not a happy bunny with a proposal for councillors allowances to be slightly reduced. £43K is simply not enough to live on in Ossy.

Leading Lancashire Tory councillor rejects allowances cut (From Lancashire Telegraph)

Still, I suppose he'll have no option after the May elections.

Should we post our condolences now?

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im sure those loosing their jobs within the council who also need to live will agree with his refusal to ease the burden on the councils budget infact i imagine many voulentered redundacy to ensure he could continue to live to the standard he has become acustomed to at our expense.

i suppose there is good news for the people of ossy which is that with the elections been in may a few potholes will get filled around april

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The comments on this article say all thats needs saying about this man.:rolleyes:

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'And the Lib Dem proposing it admitted the move would be ‘purely symbolic’ and aimed at generating positive press coverage.'

“It is purely symbolic with no great savings, but it would provide a headline.'

Leading Lancashire Tory councillor rejects allowances cut (From Lancashire Telegraph)

Besides the actual weighty salary/expenses package, all he seems to have done is objected to taking part in some political spin. Meant to appease the public, and not save much money.

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its a good job he dosnt rely on payment for appearances in the press for a living he hardly seems to be in the press these days and some other woman it seems is been pushed forward as oswaldtwistles saviour and taking his place in the limelight

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it would take a lot more than a paycut to appease me after waking up to find that calendar on my floor.I thought it was the grimm reapers to do list

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I agree though, in these tough times, even if no great savings would have been made, it would have shown a little solidarity with those whose pay is frozen, or indeed fallen, and that's the lucky ones, who have jobs.

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I've seen him get better press coverage, but somehow I suspect he may regret putting his greed before duty.

We all have to live, I think we could all live more comfortably knowing that our leader is willing to make cuts himself rather than just dump the whole thing on genuine Council workers.

Oh sorry allow me to apologise, I seem to remember someone on here mentioned a cut in the buttie budget, so there is his sacrifice.
I bet those losing their jobs always paid for and made up their own sandwiches, their loyalty to the Borough aught to be remembered.

Perhaps all those being made redundant, (voluntary or otherwise), should be given the freedom of the Borough? Or maybe, we could get a primary school somewhere to make each one a medal from tin foil and yellow painted cardboard to simulate a medal of rememberance for each of them?

Surely he could organise that before he leaves in May?

:mad:

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I wonder if Maggie's seen this comment on the article?

pinkfairyone, Burnley says...
1:48pm Thu 17 Feb 11
"He's a reptilian... Notice how his eyes are black "

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Glorious celebrations are planned for Hyndburn, to commemerate the royal wedding on April 29th.

Which strangely happens to be the birthday of this silly cult...

David Icke - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I think the end draws nigh.

Perhaps we should party...whilst we still can.

:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

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Yep, even us retailers who are having their trade diverted by power mad councillors feathering their own nest :mad::mad::mad::mad:

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At the heart of his theories lies the idea that a secret group of reptilian humanoids called the Babylonian Brotherhood controls humanity, and that many prominent figures are reptilian, including George W. Bush, Queen Elizabeth II, Kris Kristofferson, and Boxcar Willie.[3]

Doomed.

Doomed.

We're all doomed!

All makes sense now.

The local lizard leader, wanting to throw a party to celebrate the wedding of H.R.H. Queen of Reptile's grandson.

:eek::D:eek:

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I had considered:-
YouTube - Engelbert Humperdinck - The Last Waltz

But this is how he should leave the party:-


YouTube - Frank Sinatra My Way

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He is an odious little man who is paid a very generous amount for doing not a lot.

How he has the nerve to make such a comment when he is happy to see employees scrimping and scaping to get by, is beyond comprehension.

They will hear me cheer in Timbuktu when he finally falls off his glittering perch(and takes his chuffing medal with him).......or should I say, when he is knocked off it by some other local politician. That day can't come soon enough.

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I heard about this before I came on here from another Accywebber, when he told me what Peter had said I was totally dumbfounded, what a totally crass statement, I still can't believe anybody could actually be so bloody stupid, well I think my friend will have to make do with considerably less from May 6th onwards:(:(:(

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Blimey.

Who'd have thought?

You being 'vile and vicious' about your little chum.

Me, pointing out that he apparently didn't want to take part in some political spin scheme, with little money saved.

The world's gone mad!!!

:rolleyes:

(I would like to make clear I'm not defending anyone. Besides showing some empathy with those suffering because of the cuts, a saving of just one penny would have been appreciated.)

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What I find most disturbing is this extract from the LT report:

Asked about the comment yesterday, Coun Britcliffe said Coun Jewell’s suggestion had ‘denigrated’ the work of councillors, adding: “I work very hard as a politician full-time.

“We are making a gesture by not taking an increase in our allowances.”

According to council and fire authority documents, Coun Britcliffe was paid a total of £43,382 in 2009/10.

However he said this included reimbursements for expenses including travel.

Now, if as Councillor Britcliffe claims, his political role is a full time one, then why is an element of his remuneration travel expenses? I can understand travel to London or other faraway places, but surely not to Accy or Preston. I do not believe that Hyndburn bin men or Lancashire teachers - as full time workers for the councils - are able to claim their travel expenses from home to depot or school - so how come Mr Britcliffe (and possibly other full time politico's) are able to do so?

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a verry good point tealeaf infact is a political position classed as a self employed position i dont know but if it is shouldnt any travel expenses be claimed back through the tax man and not the publics purse ?

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Don't think you've ever seen me defending the indefensible, irrespective of whether it was just a stunt or political spin scheme, it wouldn't have been so bad if he'd just made no comment, but to say he "has to live" I find utterly unbelievable, especially at the moment:(:(:(

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If he was self employed he would claim the expenses back off the customer ( council/county councillor) but they would be tax free.

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Irrespective accyman councillors have always been able to claim travelling exes from the council, they are not not classed as self employed as tax is take at source or it was

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He's certainly riled a few people on the Telegraph comments section. One posted at 4.47 is quite true

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no photos in this weeks accy observer .. comments .. but no pics that i could see!!!

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I've no problem with expenses per se. Any decent public or private enterprise will pay those. However, no business entity pays for it's employees to turn up for work.

Nor have I a problem with councillor's (taxable) allowances for attending meetings and the like or with spending time dealing with constituents problems, if those councillors are working during the day and using up what would otherwise be their free time on council business.

The problem is when someone takes a full time position for the job, gets (relative to local incomes) handsomely rewarded and then claims extra tax free dosh for their attendance.

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It was his similarly aloof comment, when ignoring expense recommedations, that you couldn't eat in London for a tenner, and anyone who knew how to do so should write a guide book, which prompted my letter to the paper.

I posted earlier today that he's no fool, and I stand by that, but regarding his own P.R. he's absolutely hopeless.

Even if what he said was in private emails, which were subsequently leaked.

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I think he will have riled many people in Hyndburn of all political hues and none .

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As you say he is no fool far from it, but even things like that should be kept away from prying eyes, as you say there are leaks

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I think he definatley achieved that before today's article :D

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I think he may have gone over the top this time .

Yet last year he did say in the Observer that he is worth every penny .

You've got to give him credit for cheek . :(

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It won't be long ,.i saw him getting his photo taken outside council offices on tuesday morning ,with a Hyndburn stray dog banner in hand !!

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Blimey 43K and he's now homeless ? :D

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I never would have thought twenty years ago when i used to see our illustrious leader staggering around town drunk as a monkey on a saturday night, he would in time be the leader of the council and on £43k a year.Just goes to show alcohol does you no harm whatsoever:D Like he says worth every penny:rolleyes:

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I'm guessing he won't be reading this right now as there is a county council meeting to decide on to cut £179 million from the budget and put thousands out of work. Never mind they all have to live

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He might be, as I was signing out at Scaithcliffe after a community meeting I was in he was walking out of a meeting. We spoke about an issue I had raised with him and as the thread title suggests he was still alive :rolleyes::D

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WHEN that Britcliffe person gets kicked out who is in the running to become the new 'leader'?

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i designed a banner for them capturing both the essance of their cause and a true representation of what the self awarded medal reflects to the public but it was declined :(

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The son.

:D

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Don't forget, as well as the £43000 councillor allowances he claims, he also has his cafe on Infant St !!

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nope he will be too busy serving all the extra customers gained from the loo closures.Been a councilor is a full time job infact £43 grands worth of full time job so theres no way that could happen;)

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shudddduppppp, don't be daft

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The Councillors vote the leader in so it will be whoever the majority party vote in. I cant remember the name of the current leader of the labour party, having a mental block but someone will be along to remind me soon I am sure

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I didn't say which son.

;)

It's not always the eldest child power is passed on to.

It's a worry for Col. Gaddafi and Kim Jong-il too.

:D

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Parkinson.

Miles.

Easy for me to remember.

:rofl38:

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i thought a british bulldog was a noble breed ... :D

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I thought it was but did not want to make myself look silly, that's everyone else job :rolleyes::D

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When I'm checking to see if our Hyndburn/Ribble Valley Parkinson's support group meetings have had any press, up he pops...occasionally.

Not the high profile party leaders we've been used to. Though supposedly he's very nice.

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you would think with a name like that he would be pretty good at interviews :)

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He would have been, but an incident with an emu knocked his confidence.

;):D

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lol could you imagine if rod hull had lived and developed parkinsons.That emu would have been twice as active :eek::D:D:D

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I wasn't aware of this:confused: I thought that the leader of the council would be elected at large, like the Mayor of Kingston (here the Mayor is the chairman of the council). I still think that one major problem with your system is having party politics in a local council. Partisan politics probably get in the way of what is best for the community. Garbage pick up, fixing potholes, making sure that the streets are policed, providing fire protection, etc. seems to be what councillors should be paying attention to ... not which political party philosophy is best fitted to deal with the problems.

Ah well, none of my business really. Just seems kinda weird. However, it is entertaining.:D

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Oh dear.

Someone's made headlines in the national newspapers.

Tory politician won't slash 43,000 expenses despite ruthless public sector cuts - mirror.co.uk

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According to the Observer :Politics | Accrington Observer - menmedia.co.uk

Peter has very nicely promised Not to increase council tax to pay for the shortfall from his expenses, sorry I meant to say shortfall from the government.

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I agree with you about party politics in local government.
If we voted for our Councillor and a separate vote for the leader at local elections we could easily end up with a leader of the council that did not have a majority support from the councillors. I think he or she would be unable to do anything because of the local party politics getting in the way

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so WHEN it gets kicked out it will get nothing?

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Which we achieve on a regular basis:D

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Whatever the election results are in May, and which party has the greater majority, and therefore controls the council, Peter Britcliffe will remain a councillor, and a county councillor, because he isn't up for re-election this year.

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He'll still be a councillor county councillor and add ons if re is leader of the opposition, which I would think would or should be up for debate:rolleyes:

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Lets hope then, that he is kicked off as many committee's as possible, and that the Tory group vote against him as leader.
It's about time he came to live in the real world.

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so he'll still get paid but just not as much?

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Let's not forget what happened last May.

Because Peter Britcliffe wasn't selected as the prospective parliamentary candidate, nearly all the local Tories refused to campaign for Conservative central office's preferred candidate, Cameron approved cutie, Karen Buckley. Some even leaving the party in disgust.

She didn't stand a chance, when her campaign team seemed to consist of just two spotty youths.

He seems to have the unblinding loyalty of his party, at least locally, and there doesn't seem there's anyone who's being groomed to eventually take his throne.

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If he isn't the leader, if the Conservatives lose control of H.B.C., he won't get the same weighty package, no.

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Perhaps I should take in lodgers.

Living as I do in the ward Cllr. Britcliffe represents.

If you don't mind top 'n' tailing, I should easily be able to get 300 in my back bedroom.

Please pm for details.

:D

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If they lose very badly at the next elections, many may well turn against him. I'm not sure they are all behind him in such force, they are just fearful for the own careers if they go against him.

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Dolly Barton?

:eek:

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I can't see Hynburnians going for anyone with Silvio Berlusconi's hair.

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Well said . :)

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His morals wouldn't go down too well either:rolleyes:

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Why?

What do you know, that we don't?

:eek:

Get the kettle on!

:D

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Think he has a liking for ladies of the night who are considered under age in Italia

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Hopefully you're referring to the Italian Prime Minister's liking for a belly dancing Ruby Murray, and not a local councillor?

Phew.

Those protests at the Mayor making ceremony the other year, I thought were about to make sense.

:rolleyes::D

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probably if he can't get 1 @15, 3 @5 will do.:D

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No not a belly dancer G. relations with rather atractive 17 year old young lady, which has landed him in court, the Italian Prime Minister that is:rolleyes::D

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That must be italian logic, cashy:D

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Yes, that's li'l Moroccan Ruby Murray.

Who likes to be known as a 'belly dancer', rather than a little 'ho, who accepts 7,000 euro 'presents' from someone old enough to be her grandad.

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By the way, she isn't really called Ruby Murray.

Though similar to enjoying a curry, afterwards, she probably had been responsible for Berlusconi having the squits.

:D

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It will be a collossal decrease. He'll still get his £4,500 standard councillor allowance, £10k or so for being a county councillor and presumably a Leader of the Opposition allowance of around £7k so he'll still be able to live but he won't get the £21k that he afforded himself for being Leader. Miles Parkinson is almost guaranteed to take over that exalted position.

It all depends on what a new controlling group would do to allowances and from discussions within the Labour group which have been going on for some time I can tell you that the pickings will not be quite so rich following a change of control.

Some allowances will be abolished altogether such as most of the vice-chairs of committees but allowances across the board will be reduced. At the moment there is some silly money being paid, ostensibly for positions on committees which do not appear to have met for some time.

Time for reform.

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Oh it looks like you've really got your hand on the pulse here G, you know exactly what oud Berny over it Italy is getting up to and with who:D

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I got a little surprise this lunchtime (it was a big one really) I received a phone call from the Leader of HBC, informing me of his little slip up, I think my reply was something like ya bloody clown, who's doing your Google Page Ranking, because they ain't doing a very good job, I also pointed out that no matter what he says now you can't unsay what you've said, and funny enough I had some one to back up just what I said as accyman was sat on my settee at the time;)

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A beautiful singer , with her first number one in 1955 called Softly Softly .

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I just heard about this worried call.

From the person visiting you at the time.

:D

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Tell him to phone me.

I could have him up there with Mother Theresa, by this time in May, if his P.R. was handed over to me.

I don't come cheap, mind.

;)

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So I've heard:rolleyes::rolleyes::D

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Like Mother Teresa, by this time in May, I didn't realise Jesus had come back to earth and was performing miracles G, you've kept that very secretive mate:eek::eek:

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Someone musta told him about the article in the National Newspaper.?:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

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Did you mention the bogs ? :D

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You don't need miracles, to get someone out of their naughty habits

http://www.nuncostume.org.uk/wp-cont...1/SEXYNUNA.jpg

and to start putting a sock in it.

;)

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now would be an ideal time to do a u-turn on the toilet situation and get all the bad decisions out of the way in one go

thats my P.R advice :D

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A U-turn on the toilet could create a terrible mess.

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yes but then we would all be in it together :D

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You sat alone in the same room as Jaysay ?.. OK maybe you never had an ice pick handy but I reckon you could have got away with strangulation.. :D

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Ya I did actually, told him I didn't agree, but to be fair, I didn't know they were still open 4 days a week, but I still think they should be open 7;) Thats just in case I call in on Gift Print, don't want George breaking his neck getting me to the market hall bogs in the wheelchair if I'm bursting:D

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Is that what you call your 'little soldier'?

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Don't be silly, the boys were in the bedroom with ak47s just in case:D

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i poisoned his pies dont expect too many posts from him mancie :eek: :D:D:D

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Must be immune I'm still posting:tongueout:tongueout:tongueout

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note to self..

letting the dog lick things dosnt make them poisonous :(

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Now is this before or after you picked 'em up off the mucky floor ? :D

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Peter can take heart that he isn't the worst culprit in getting bad press over Council payments.

Did you see this?

The council 'fat cat’ earning £570,000 - Telegraph

This guy took £569,000 in one year, made up of £157,000 annual salary, £167,000 redundancy (to include not just his employment at that council, but also 20 years prior service with other employers), £239,000 paid into his pension fund so that he could start drawing the maximum possible pension straight away (even though he hasn't worked sufficient years to warrant it), and £6,000 in other lost expenses.

He even had the brass neck to claim that what he received was exactly the same as a road sweeper would get, albeit that the figures were higher. Really? Is he honestly trying to claim that a road sweeper being made redundant would be offered redundancy pay for the time he worked for other employers before the Council, would have his pension enhanced to the maximum possible if he'd worked till 65, and would get a few bob extra to cover lost allowances? I can tell you that he certainly would not, and the guy is telling an out and out lie. (allegedly)

Meanwhile, the Leader of that council has put his name to a letter to the Minister complaining that the cuts in grant will lead to front line services being lost!

You couldn't make it up, could you? And Peter has a long way to go before he reaches those depths.

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No you are wrong, he has reached those depths it's just that the figures are different.