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gynn 25-02-2011 10:25

This Sceptred Isle
 
Its a strange old island, isn't it, shared between Scotland, Wales and England. Each with its own sense of national pride.

Mention Scottish national pride, and it conjures up images of the kilt, the sporron, haggis, whisky, Loch Lomond, Edinburgh Castle, the bagpipes......

Talk about Welsh national pride, and you think of daffodils, leeks, Snowdonia, male voice choirs and eisteddfords....

Speak of English national pride and you must be a racist, fascist thug to the right of the National Front.

Strange old island, isn't it!

:confused::confused::confused:

jedimaster 25-02-2011 11:24

Re: This Sceptred Isle
 
completely agree I take pride in my heritage and feel that whoever you are and wherever you come from you should be proud of your heritage it is what and who you are and unfortunately due to a minority of people defacing the english nationality the majority have been forced to lose their heritage and therefore their identity.
england may be a multiracial, multiethnic, multicultural,multifaith society but that doesn't stop people being who they are, or their god given right to celebrate that fact equally and without prejudice.

Margaret Pilkington 25-02-2011 12:56

Re: This Sceptred Isle
 
We seem to be apologists for our national history and background.
It seems that national pride has been hijacked by suspect political groups...and so we are all devalued by it.

garinda 25-02-2011 15:10

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Perhaps we're always going to face a bit of a dichotomy, when it comes to national identity, being from two tribes of people, the Angles, and the Saxons.

Perhaps it's more straightforward, being one of the Celtic nations.

Barrie Yates 25-02-2011 16:53

Re: This Sceptred Isle
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gynn (Post 887072)
Its a strange old island, isn't it, shared between Scotland, Wales and England. Each with its own sense of national pride.

Mention Scottish national pride, and it conjures up images of the kilt, the sporron, haggis, whisky, Loch Lomond, Edinburgh Castle, the bagpipes......

Talk about Welsh national pride, and you think of daffodils, leeks, Snowdonia, male voice choirs and eisteddfords....

Speak of English national pride and you must be a racist, fascist thug to the right of the National Front.

Strange old island, isn't it!

:confused::confused::confused:

Whenever I have to state my nationality it is English - I don't want to be taken for one of the others.:D

jaysay 25-02-2011 18:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 887098)
We seem to be apologists for our national history and background.
It seems that national pride has been hijacked by suspect political groups...and so we are all devalued by it.

Ya these apologists only speak for themselves but we all get tarred with the same brush:mad:

Gremlin 25-02-2011 18:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Barrie Yates (Post 887159)
Whenever I have to state my nationality it is English - I don't want to be taken for one of the others.:D

Likewise Barry,
I remember back in about 1967 ish when I was presenting my passport at Dover to travel to France, I also had to fill a small form in and one question asked my Nationality, I put English and the office clown tore the form up and told me to put British. I objected but was told if I didn't conform there was no boarding of the ship. I put British just to keep him happy.

jaysay 25-02-2011 18:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gremlin (Post 887233)
Likewise Barry,
I remember back in about 1967 ish when I was presenting my passport at Dover to travel to France, I also had to fill a small form in and one question asked my Nationality, I put English and the office clown tore the form up and told me to put British. I objected but was told if I didn't conform there was no boarding of the ship. I put British just to keep him happy.

Dd he have a sign on his hat saying Jobsworth, Gremlin;)

jedimaster 25-02-2011 18:33

Re: This Sceptred Isle
 
works the other way too, they look at you daft when you put Welsh and there is never an option for it on forms.

garinda 25-02-2011 18:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jedimaster (Post 887240)
works the other way too, they look at you daft when you put Welsh and there is never an option for it on forms.

Try fitting in Norman, with Scandinavian roots.

:D

Gordon Booth 25-02-2011 18:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jedimaster (Post 887240)
they look at you daft when you put Welsh .

I wonder why?

jedimaster 25-02-2011 18:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 887243)
Try fitting in Norman, with Scandinavian roots.

:D



another one of the OTHER's then :D

jedimaster 25-02-2011 18:51

Re: This Sceptred Isle
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 887250)
I wonder why?


Nowt wrong with us matey after all we're the ones that put a roof over you foreigner's heads Literally! :D

garinda 25-02-2011 18:54

Re: This Sceptred Isle
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jedimaster (Post 887252)
another one of the OTHER's then :D

'Fraid so.

Know it's wrong, but I do look down my Nordic nose at those Germanic Angles and Saxons.

Yup, I'm a racist.

:D

Less 25-02-2011 19:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 887243)
Try fitting in Norman, with Scandinavian roots.

:D

I heard rumours about you & Norman, though I'm surprised he didn't insist you saw your hairdresser, nothing worse than waking up & the first thing you see is Scandinavian roots!


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