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jaysay 11-03-2011 10:25

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Originally Posted by gynn (Post 890990)
No you aren't, but its 500 quid more than the other candidates (of all parties) are getting. That creates an uneven playing field in each ward.

Which is illegal.

There is no way you could use that money for election purposes end of story

gynn 11-03-2011 16:18

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 890998)
There is no way you could use that money for election purposes end of story


Exactly. So let's all keep an eye open for any councillor that does.

Barrie Yates 11-03-2011 17:33

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Whilst the general concensus on Accyweb does appear to be very strongly anti-PB, I am sure that it would be worthwhile if a larger proportion of Hyndburn residents could be made more aware of the nefarious practices that are being perpetrated.
I believe that the membership of Accyweb is approximately 25% of the population of Hyndburn. I do not know what the % relationship between members and the turnout at the last local election was, perhaps someone can advise, but obviously not all members can, or will, vote, but when one starts to apply various estimations of turnout and persuasion, it could easily turn out that H.E. could still be in power after May.

garinda 11-03-2011 17:51

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Originally Posted by Barrie Yates (Post 891032)
Whilst the general concensus on Accyweb does appear to be very strongly anti-PB, I am sure that it would be worthwhile if a larger proportion of Hyndburn residents could be made more aware of the nefarious practices that are being perpetrated.
I believe that the membership of Accyweb is approximately 25% of the population of Hyndburn. I do not know what the % relationship between members and the turnout at the last local election was, perhaps someone can advise, but obviously not all members can, or will, vote, but when one starts to apply various estimations of turnout and persuasion, it could easily turn out that H.E. could still be in power after May.

As far as I know there are only four Accy Webbers living in Cllr. Britcliffe's ward, but he isn't up for re-election this year.

There may be more.

Who knows.

jaysay 11-03-2011 18:11

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Originally Posted by Barrie Yates (Post 891032)
Whilst the general concensus on Accyweb does appear to be very strongly anti-PB, I am sure that it would be worthwhile if a larger proportion of Hyndburn residents could be made more aware of the nefarious practices that are being perpetrated.
I believe that the membership of Accyweb is approximately 25% of the population of Hyndburn. I do not know what the % relationship between members and the turnout at the last local election was, perhaps someone can advise, but obviously not all members can, or will, vote, but when one starts to apply various estimations of turnout and persuasion, it could easily turn out that H.E. could still be in power after May.

Don't let the number of members fool you Barrie many have never ever posted on here at all, and a hell of a lot come from outside Hyndburn even the country, as you well know from experience;)

Ken Moss 14-03-2011 10:35

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Originally Posted by Barrie Yates (Post 891032)
I do not know what the % relationship between members and the turnout at the last local election was, perhaps someone can advise, but obviously not all members can, or will, vote, but when one starts to apply various estimations of turnout and persuasion, it could easily turn out that H.E. could still be in power after May.

I hope that the people of Rishton will see just how much Cllr Britcliffe has done for the village and vote accordingly for his candidate in May.

The Conservatives seemingly can't even decide who their candidate is in Rishton this year as Cllr Horne has told me he is standing again yet a man in the gallery on Tuesday night told Clare Cleary (someone who put herself forward as Labour candidate last July) that he is standing this year for the Tories. Good luck to them all but the cynicism that is washing through Rishton at the moment regarding the cheques that are being handed out doesn't look good for the blues.

There is more to being a councillor than dishing out money every four years and the people know it.

jaysay 14-03-2011 18:00

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 891611)
I hope that the people of Rishton will see just how much Cllr Britcliffe has done for the village and vote accordingly for his candidate in May.

The Conservatives seemingly can't even decide who their candidate is in Rishton this year as Cllr Horne has told me he is standing again yet a man in the gallery on Tuesday night told Clare Cleary (someone who put herself forward as Labour candidate last July) that he is standing this year for the Tories. Good luck to them all but the cynicism that is washing through Rishton at the moment regarding the cheques that are being handed out doesn't look good for the blues.

There is more to being a councillor than dishing out money every four years and the people know it.

Smoke and mirrors Ken:D

Ken Moss 15-03-2011 06:06

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 891681)
Smoke and mirrors Ken:D

I'm sure it impresses a man such as yourself just as much as it impresses me...

Josie Bloggs 17-03-2011 21:12

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The minutes say allowances are expected to go up by 3.something per cent. Someones told me its nearer 4.7 %

Which is it?

The staff are getting f all.

lancsdave 17-03-2011 21:34

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Originally Posted by Josie Bloggs (Post 892464)
The minutes say allowances are expected to go up by 3.something per cent. Someones told me its nearer 4.7 %

Which is it?

The staff are getting f all.


Why would council staff get extra, one man on his own does everything for Hyndburn, didn't you know that ? :rolleyes:

Josie Bloggs 17-03-2011 21:38

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The staff are ok about getting nothing, some people are being kicked out on redundancy. But it stinks that the politicians are getting such a big rise.

Margaret Pilkington 17-03-2011 21:38

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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 892471)
Why would council staff get extra, one man on his own does everything for Hyndburn, didn't you know that ? :rolleyes:


Or that is what he would have us all believe.
I wonder if he wears his y fronts over his tights...imagination is working overtime :rolleyes:.

Ken Moss 18-03-2011 06:50

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None of the Labour councillors will be taking any rise this year and all new candidates have agreed that on election they will be receiving a basic allowance at this year's level.

Call it a token gesture if you will, Cllr Britcliffe, but I personally don't feel too comfortable telling everyone that redundancies have to be made whilst topping up my own wage.

Margaret Pilkington 18-03-2011 08:12

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As a leader, he should be doing just that and leading by example....he should also be refusing any increase in his allowances.
I don't consider it tokenism....and the rank and file worker of HBC would then see 'we are all in it together'.

shillelagh 18-03-2011 13:11

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i actually dont see why not go back to the old system ... you got expenses for the phone calls you made, the meetings you attended ie petrol/diesel used ... rather than a flat amount for the year ... as you volunteer to stand for council so you must want to do it .... and to me volunteering means giving your time for free ....


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