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garinda 13-03-2011 13:50

Re: This isn't racist?
 
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Originally Posted by yerself (Post 891492)
This means nothing. Why are some of the audience described by their colour and others by their continent of origin? Are there not any white asians?

Why is the audience broken down by race at all?

garinda 13-03-2011 13:54

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Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 891491)
You'll notice that I'm not actually arguing with you on this one Garinda.

Though you noticably haven't condemned them, for hosting events that are for 'black, and minority ethnic ladies only'.

Gayle 13-03-2011 14:12

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 891494)
Why is the audience broken down by race at all?

It wasn't - I don't think anyone there considered it. It certainly wasn't counted or monitored in anyway. I was just attempting to demonstrate that there was no discrimination at the event. I foolishly thought you might be interested.

Gayle 13-03-2011 14:15

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 891496)
Though you noticably haven't condemned them, for hosting events that are for 'black, and minority ethnic ladies only'.

And there's no reason why I should or shouldn't condemn them on here - it's absolutely nothing to do with me what their policies are and how they operate. As long as there is no discrimination in the Arts Centre then I can't and won't comment on what they do elsewhere.

garinda 13-03-2011 14:18

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Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 891502)
And there's no reason why I should or shouldn't condemn them on here - it's absolutely nothing to do with me what their policies are and how they operate. As long as there is no discrimination in the Arts Centre then I can't and won't comment on what they do elsewhere.

Fair enough.

Your prerogative.

Though I think by saying nothing, you are in fact saying quite a lot.

garinda 13-03-2011 14:23

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Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 891502)
And there's no reason why I should or shouldn't condemn them on here - it's absolutely nothing to do with me what their policies are and how they operate. As long as there is no discrimination in the Arts Centre then I can't and won't comment on what they do elsewhere.

Do you only have one hat nowadays?

That being the Civic Arts Centre one, and no personal opinions, when it comes to what's right or wrong, outside of the small sphere of the arts?

garinda 13-03-2011 14:30

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Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 891500)
It wasn't - I don't think anyone there considered it. It certainly wasn't counted or monitored in anyway.

Then why mention it at all?

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Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 891487)
The audience was about half split between white and asian.


garinda 13-03-2011 14:36

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In the context that the Civic Arts Centre promoted the event, what does 'in association with the Lancashire-wide Network for Ethnic Minority Women present...' mean?

Did they hire the room, the theatre group?

Gayle 13-03-2011 14:38

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 891507)
Then why mention it at all?

I'm beginning to wish I hadn't. I was just trying to say that the audience was mixed and there was no discrimination at that event. I mentioned it because I thought you might be interested.

As for my views - I have plenty of them. I just see no reason why I should have to publically condemn or support a group that I have connection with, other than they hired my venue to put on an interesting play.

Gayle 13-03-2011 14:41

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 891509)
In the context that the Civic Arts Centre promoted the event, what does 'in association with the Lancashire-wide Network for Ethnic Minority Women present...' mean?

Did they hire the room, the theatre group?

As far as I was aware for the hire, it was hired by Lancashire County Council's Youth Service for the play. They brought the theatre company in.

As it was an interesting play and it was open to the public, I put it on the website.

garinda 13-03-2011 14:51

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Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 891511)
As far as I was aware for the hire, it was hired by Lancashire County Council's Youth Service for the play.

No mention at all of them, on the posters the Civic Arts Centre promoted.

Just 'New Shoes Theatre in association with the Lancashire-wide Network for Ethnic Minority Women present...'

Margaret Pilkington 13-03-2011 14:55

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 890852)
If that is the case, keeping such women in groups that are openly separatist, along racial lines, will only add to, and further their isolation from society at large.

Positive discrimination never solves anything, in the long-term.

Most times it just masks real problems.

Yes, we all face different difficulties in life.

But ultimately we are all the same, at least in this country, and should always be treated as equals.


I agree with you G.
If it is a women's group then all women, regardless of their ethnicity should be allowed to attend.
And yes, women of all ethnicities encounter problems in their lives......who is to say that these problems cannot be overcome by a concerted effort, and the experiences of other women, again regardless of their colour creed or ethnicity.......doesn't adversity help people to build bridges?
It would certainly help to achieve integration.....except that the menfolk from these ethnic backgrounds may prohibit their women from attending.

jaysay 14-03-2011 09:29

Re: This isn't racist?
 
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Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 891511)
As far as I was aware for the hire, it was hired by Lancashire County Council's Youth Service for the play. They brought the theatre company in.

As it was an interesting play and it was open to the public, I put it on the website.

I find it hard to justify things such as these being backed by the LCC Youth Service when that same service are being asked to make huge savings on expenditure, so much so the the youth club in Ossy could be under threat:mad:

Mancie 15-03-2011 09:30

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 891596)
Unfortunately G. there are literally thousands of these none jobs, (however did we manage without them) in every walk of society but nowhere will you find any with the word WHITE in the title:rolleyes:

Chirpy chirpy cheep cheep yeh

garinda 15-03-2011 18:21

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 891812)
Chirpy chirpy cheep cheep

Yes, there are always those who'd rather whistle, and turn their back on something they'd rather not see.

Neil 16-03-2011 09:00

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