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On Facebook a new production at the Civic Arts Centre showed on my page. Having an interest in theatre, I thought I'd have a look.

As part of the International Woman's Week, something that's already divisive and separatist in my opinion, but that's for another thread, they have a production called Hurried Steps, the stories of eight women, as reported to Amnesty International.

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It states it's presented by the New Shoes Theatre in association with the Lancashire-wide Network for Ethnic Minority Women.

http://www.civicartscentre.co.uk/documents/HSCAC.pdf

Who are the Lancashire-wide Network for Ethnic Minority Women? Thought I. Seeing as they're part funded by the council tax payer, via Lancashire County Council.

Handily they have a website.

Lancashire Wide Network for Minority Ethnic Women

Which has a link to their latest newsletter.

http://www.lwnmew.org.uk/minority_et...n/issue_79.pdf

All kinds of lovely things. Coffee and cake mornings, boosting self confidence courses. Even a five week course on complementary therapies.

If you like the sound of it, might be worth signing up for one of their courses.

Only one problem.

All these things are only open to 'BME ladies'.

Meaning black, and minority ethnic women, exclusively.

:mad:

This is just the sort of blindly ignorant liberalism that fuels peoples' support for extremist political groups.

If we are to have integration for all, then these divisive, publicly funded separatists organisations, need to be outlawed now.

We have laws that make racism a crime.

They are supposed to apply equally to everyone.

Apparently they don't.

At least in Lancashire.

:mad:

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If there was a group which advertised themselves as being for 'whites only', quite rightly they'd be legally challenged. As the BNP recently were, about their membership policy, which is now open to everyone.

How (publicly funded) events can be advertisted as being only for 'BME (black, and mixed ethnic) ladies only', and still be legal, is beyond me.

To all the idiots who facilitate this kind of racist organisation to flourish, jolly well done.

Only one big problem...you're now fuelling, and perpetrating racism, in all sections of society.

Well done.

:mad:

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Well I will second you on all that Garinda. I'd give you karma but it won't let me yet but I will do eventually. It makes my blood boil to be excluded from things because of my colour but if I did it I would be had up in the courts no doubt :mad:

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By the way, if anyone from The Lancashire Wide Network for Minority Ethnic Women is thinking of deleting, or amending their newsletter, I have a copy of what you published publicly. Which contains evidence of racism, and in my opinion should be brought to the attention of the legal system.

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Which bit is racist? Its definatelt sexist with several of the training sessions stating women only.

It is disapointing to see LCC and the Lottery funding this.

I think you should apply for the the advertised job.

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Is it not racist to say that only Black or ethnic minorities are allowed to attend?

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I did not see that bit sorry, where does it say it

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I like how the job description says "you will be open to equal opportunities", shame the organisation is not

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Found it and yes I think it is wrong and should be illegal

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I think it was this bit but I'm not sure. I know I saw it somewhere

Aims and Objectives of the Network
Aim:

To facilitate, encourage, support and work both with and for women from minority ethnic communities in Lancashire to enable them to identify, access and participate in economic and social opportunities.

Objectives:

To share and exchange good practice between member organisations in order to facilitate and improve services for women - particularly health, education, training and employment areas.

To offer advice and consultancy to employers and service providers and to share good practice and to encourage and facilitate positive action.

To develop partnerships and organisational capacity in order to ensure a more coherent and effective approach in addressing the needs of minority ethnic women in employment and service delivery areas – e.g. childcare, flexible working patterns, discrimination, domestic violence, hate crime, community cohesion and cultural issues.

To provide training opportunities to improve personal and professional development.

To seek agency support and funding to achieve the above objectives for women both in the network and in the community.

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I saw it somewhere but am not sure if I copied the right bit. They must be hiding it well

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It is sexist too, you are right

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I dont believe in sexism either, well except for jokes but thats different :D

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I've got some cracking jokes, I will stick them in the over 18's section tomorrow.




There's me being ageist:hidewall::rofl38:

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I was surprised that Big Lottery funded what many will see as sexist and/or racist schemes so I did a search on there website. Here are the projects I found that Big has funded for Hyndburn that are specifically for woman, Asian or BME groups.

I did not find any specifically for men, if someone else does please post them.

Sorry, links removed as they no longer work

I was surprised at the size of some of the awards, the biggest being £1/2 million and added up they come to £3.5 million

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Since it seems to be a publicly funded organisation one would suppose that those running things will have been required to sign a public disclosure notice informing of any familial , matrimonial or fiscal/business links to any Local or County Councillor. Also any elected official would also declare such a conflict of interest and abstain from any committee votes involved in doling out public monies to such groups .
Though I wouldn't hold my breath . :rolleyes: :eek:

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I don't have a problem with these ethnic groups receiving public money and limiting their membership to eg black and muslim women. After all, that is the only way to target the money.

Where I DO have a problem is where the groups become vehicles for emphasising the divisions between the the ethnic and the wider community.

If they spend their time teaching people how to fit in with the rest of society, then that is fine and laudable.

If all they do is sit and dream up new ways of making Oswaldtwistle more like the Punjab, then forget it!

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I have never been able to get my head round a lot of these so call organisations, which by there very name seen racist and if members of indigenous white population had to reciprocate there would be hell to pay. Can anybody see the powers that be allowing Music of WHITE ORIGIN awards, or White police officers association White Trade Union organisation White Taxi drivers Ass. it would never happen, to me racism, in the eyes of the law, has always been a one way ticket and does fuel groups like the BNP

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It's the amounts if money awarded that annoyed me. You try and get 1/2 million out of the lottery for something for everyone and not just a small group.

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If thats the case I would have thought the best group to recieve any money to promote and encourage social cohesion within the female segment of the population would have been the Womens Institute, think I once saw a film about how all encompansing they were , nothing ageist or sizeist, they even produced a calender to raise funds , no scrounging for public taxpayer funds . ;) :eek:

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The only trouble is Neil these groups are more likely to be funded by the lottery than say Friends of Rhyddings Park, who have to work there socks of in trying and then aren't successful

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If the lottery money wasnt awarded the response would most likely be..........

"Is it coz we are black?"

Then that opens a can of worms.

I dont agree with it at all.

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Er...the bit which states courses are for 'BME ladies only'

With BME referring to black, and mixed ethnic.

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...and you'd support similar groups, that stated they were for white people only?

There are laws which are supposed to prevent this kind of prejudice. Which are clearly failing.

As stated earlier, these sort of groups mean we'll never be an integrated society. As well as fuelling resentment from those who are blatantly excluded because of their race.

This should never be acceptable.

(Apologies to Neil. I pointed out the racism before I'd read you'd later seen it.)

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Which is why I don't believe in 'multiculturism' it is just separatist and will never work.

Apologising is a sign of weakness, so I was told by some idiot with no friends and no sense of humour :D

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I only apologised because I'm nice....and you're a bit slow.

;):D

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Personally, yes I would if they were targeting a specific minority group. Its the wider community that wouldn't.

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Well that's just the sort of stupid, wooly minded liberalism, that has exactly the opposite effect of making sure we are an integrated society.

Name me a minority group that isn't supposedly equal in the eyes of the British law system, that could possibly justify the funding of groups that were exclusive to certain people?

Don't spend too long scrathing your head.

There aren't any.

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What exactly IS, an Ethnic Minority?

My ex wife hailed from Southern Ireland and my daughter-in-law is Russian.

Are they 'ethnic minorities'? If they wanted to go on these courses would they be accepted?

Or does Ethnic Minority mean anyone that isn't white?
:mad:

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Well this is the answer I got from a website Less...........

What is a ethnic minority? - True Knowledge

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Oooh goody, in that case I qualify, I was born in Cheshire and live in Lancashire, now which of these courses mentioned earlier should I apply for?
Mind you, another snag is sex, still, if I have a word with my Doctor and explain that I feel excluded because of my sex, surely the NHS can waste thousands rectifying that for me?
:D

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Should we call you you Lesley from now on?;):D

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I haven't been on for a while so I've just seen this.

As far as the Civic Arts Centre is concerned on this - the group have hired the room for the afternoon for this show (I actually thought it was Lancashire County Council's youth service that had hired the room but that's by the by). We are promoting it to anyone and everyone who wants to come and see it - as far as I am concerned the production is for anyone. There are no exclusions allowed at the Civic. So please come along, I'm sure you'll find it illuminating.

Also, as Hyndburn Women's Forum sometimes gets lumped into these discussions. HWF was set up in 1994 by a group of women who called themselves Hyndburn Women's Forum. All the events organised this week are for anyone and everyone - nothing is exclusive. We had one man come to the conference on Monday but we do have a few men coming to see the Virginia Ironside show on Sunday.

At the conference we learnt about how young people (boys as well as girls) are being groomed for the sex trade in our own back yards. We learnt how to protect ourselves if we have to walk around at night and we learnt about setting life goals for ourselves. All of those things would have been just as interesting for a man as a woman.

HWF's role is to organise events to recognise International Women's Day, so naturally it's going to appear to be more focused on events that women might enjoy - BUT it's equally important that men in this country realise what is going on in other countries around the world. On International Women's Day we're not just sat around thinking up ways of excluding men from the party, we're actually acknowledging that over here we have it pretty good compared to women in some countries who are oppressed, abused and threatened simply because they are women.

Oh, and on Friday morning between 11am and 12noon we have a spot of Bollywood Aerobics - men dance as well, so come along.

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Even that would be a refreshing change from some of the names I have been called.
:)

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Is this another flashmob do? If so. how much will it cost?

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Nowhere has it been suggested that any events hosted at the Civic Arts Centre are exclusive to any one group.

However the production Hurried Steps is presented by the publicly funded group Lancashire-wide Network for Ethnic Minority Women, which in it's newsletter excludes people from activities they promote on grounds of race, as well as gender.

The legality of that is very questionable.

Morally it is abhorrent.

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So you're happy for the Civic Arts Centre to be used by a group to present a work, who are openly prejudiced against anyone who isn't a black, or minority ethnic woman, i.e. a racist group.

Since there are 'no exclusions allowed at the Civic', would you be happy if a similarly racist white supremacist group wanted to hire the space for one of their events?

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This play isn't racist - it's the opposite - it's aim is to foster understanding and to raise awareness of the plight of women in some countries. As I said, as far as I am concerned, this show is for everyone - please come along.

Every request for room hire will be considered individually. As we're an Arts Centre, then I would be questioning any event if it wasn't a play or show and wasn't inclusive.

We're not a venue for political meetings and politics should be left outside. If someone wanted to hire the place for a political rally then I wouldn't let them, whatever the cause. However, if they were putting on a play or show then I would have to consider it on its individual merits.

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No one has suggested that it is, or that it's appeal is to only one gender.
However the group that are presenting it are openly racist, in that they organise events that exclude others who aren't black, and minority ethnic women. They are racist because of that fact.

Human rights abuses, in other parts of the world, are not confined to women. To separate any particular group is counterproductive, and divisive.

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I don't see Hyndburn Woman's Forum as a sexist group in the same was I don't see the WI as a sexist group or the Masons.

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I'd just like to make clear, I don't think there's anything wrong with the Civic Arts Centre hosting this production. Indeed it sounds quite interesting.

My problem is that there are organisations such as Lancashire-wide Network for Ethnic Minority Women, who are are openly discrimantory against others, along lines of race. As witnessed in their latest newsletter, and that they are part funded by the tax payer.

There are supposed to be laws which prevent racial discrimination, which should be applicable to everyone.

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Thank you for making that clear Garinda.

As an Arts Centre, I see our role to challenge things and to sometimes put things on that are controversial or different. I think this play fits in that category and we have about 40 people booked in to see it. I'll let you know afterwards what the audience mix is like.

Not every show is suitable for every person - some people like musicals, some like comedy etc. We're doing Teenage Gigs for young people - no alcohol and from 6pm to 9pm - once a month, I can't see many older people wanting to come to that but if they did, they'd be most welcome. We're putting on shows that are clearly for young people (Xolisile's Song) and we're putting on shows that would probably appeal to older people (The Virginia Monologues). That's not to say that people other than the 'target' market couldn't come and enjoy them. And that doesn't make us sexist, ageist or racist for doing that.

We are trying to put on a variety of things so that over the course of a month, that in theory means that there should be something for everyone.

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I only mentioned the Civic Arts Centre because that's where I saw mention of the Lancashire-wide Network for Ethnic Minority Women. Who I'd never heard of, until last night.

Reading their newsletter angered and sickened me, because of the open racism it contained.

I fully support the Civic Arts Centre, and genuinely applaud the very diverse things that are available there.

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By the way, welcome back.

You were missed.

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Again, thank you for that. It's just a shame that we are now associated with it in this way via this thread.

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All publicity is good publicity and you have fully answered and explained the Centres view on the subject which I think has made it a useful discussion.

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That's certainly not down to me.

The Civic Arts Centre is promoting Hurried Steps. Which the poster says is 'presented by the Lancashire-wide Network for Ethnic Minority Women'.

A group that openly practices and promotes racism, because it excludes people from their events because of ethnicity.

That is wrong, and cannot be defended.

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If it's any help I knew straight away that Garinda meant the womens group and not the Civic centre. If I picked it up everyone will cos I'm gormless most of the time:D

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Gormless:eek: That means you are from the top end, eh;):D

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:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38: If above the canal bridge is top end then yes I am :rofl38:

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I think you folks are overly sensitive on the racism thing. Black, minority, and ethnic women face different problems than white women; and poor white women face problems not shared by middle class women. One can't lump all women together merely because they share the same gender, just as one can't lump together all white males, or all whites for that matter. However, I can see how such groups can be seen as divisive, and I do not believe that they should receive public funding as their rights are not at risk from government bias, or from any public institution. What they are at risk from is not government action, but from their own ethnic groups and, in the case of some muslim women, from their husbands and families.

As an aside,I am not anti French Canadian; however, I object to Federal Government money being given to the Bloc Quebecois, a political party dedicated to the break up of Canada and the formation of an independent Quebec state.:mad:

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The problem over here is that the racism card only seems to work one way, thats what gets peoples backs up, positive discrimination seems to be loaded towards the minorities and if the majority speaks against it they are deemed racist? Go figure:confused:

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I don't mind them having groups specifically for black and ethnic minority women as long as I am allowed to do the same and have a group for a specific type of person. (ie: white women, say from abusive relationships for example) Unfortunately I'm not allowed. I am allowed a group for women from abusive relationships but I have to include all women and in some cases men, regardless of colour so I can't see how this group is allowed to exclude white people

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If that is the case, keeping such women in groups that are openly separatist, along racial lines, will only add to, and further their isolation from society at large.

Positive discrimination never solves anything, in the long-term.

Most times it just masks real problems.

Yes, we all face different difficulties in life.

But ultimately we are all the same, at least in this country, and should always be treated as equals.

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As British law stands, which makes racial discrimination unlawful in this country, neither do I.

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What would be the reaction if someone set up an English Native Aboriginal Womens Cultural group? I wonder what the BBC and the Guardian would make of it?

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The problem is some are more equal than others:rolleyes:

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Sadly that appears to be the case.

This group, advertising events that only black, or ethnic minority women can attend, is no different from those boarding houses in the fifties, which had signs in their windows saying 'No blacks or Irish'.

Racism is wrong.

Regardless of who the target happens to be.

:mad:

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wasnt there a pub on blackburn road converted into a muslim girls only school a few years back?

I think its gone now with the new houses but it used to be near the church traffic lights

to me that is also wrong because christian schools are not allowed to refuse muslims and there would be hell to pay if they did

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Totally agree , but it seems to me that its hard for the powers that be to balance the racism scales so thats its equal and fair to all black,white ,yellow whatever.Its a delicate business the race thing but as i have said at the moment it seems to be loaded towards discrimination against the good old white anglo saxon male/female.

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we have a lot of chineese over here but you never hear them complaining , moaning and demanding special treatment. Nor do you hear much from the polish,croation and all the other so called minorities.

i guess some groups just expect more than others

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I agree with your points; however (there's always an "however" isn't there;)), in my opinion, whatever the law states about equality seems to apply only in the, for want of a better word, philosophical sense. I seem to remember that in the Poll Tax debate someone mentioned that a pensioner living on a small fixed income would pay the same tax as the Duke of Westminster (that's the guy who owns London isn't it:confused:). There are levels and degrees of equality that don't seem to be addressed by the "all men:eek: are created equal" bs. And if some feel the need to form a group of like minded individuals, as long as they do not actively promote hatred, and as long as they don't ask for public funding, then I don't have a problem with it. I don't care what color they are. What seems to be at issue here is not the exclusivity of a small group of women, but the larger question of how Britain has been changed to the disadvantage of native Britons. In a democracy this question should be addressed by parliament following the wishes of the majority expressed in a democratic election. Your government doesn't seem to be doing this, and for the life of me, I can't see why.

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As far as I can remember, and it's been a while, it's above the Load of Mischief, or where the Load used to be.:confused:

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My beef is that such groups are receiving public funding, and that technically what they are doing, i.e. hosting events that aren't open to all races, is unlawful.

Support organisations, for groups of similar ethnicity, might help some in the short-term.

Personally I've always been more in favour of integration, rather than creating and living in self-imposed ghettos.

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Perhaps a letter to 'uman rights asking them to take the case on for you would bear fruit?

(I could hardly type that for laughing).
:D

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Perhaps I should ask Cherie Blair to take the case.

:rolleyes:

If you do make sure you get legal aid, don't go private.

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Yes there was, it was the Antley and as you say it is long gone now. And as you also point out christian schools are not allowed to refuse pupils from a different religion (if there are places to spare and applicants live in the catchment area).

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I didn't realize that you had Aboriginal people in the UK?:confused:

Which reminds me: someone who is now a good friend of mine once asked me about the condition of the First Nations people in England. Puzzled, I had to respond: In England, people like me are the First Nations. Maybe some folks still regard immigrants as "settlers" (that's what the First Nations here call the rest of us). It's a lot different over here. The majority of Canadians are from somewhere else, or descended from people who were from somewhere else. The Canadians most prone to maintaining their original identity, and making sure that immigrants fit in to their way of thinking, are the Quebecois. They have been here the longest, and form a tight knit, homogenous group.

However, I have to admit that if I were still in England, I would be of the opinion that new arrivals should fit in or eff off. Over here, we are still creating our national identity. You guys have one that has been crafted over centuries, and it seems only reasonable that you are unwilling to give it up.

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Semantically, their definition doesn't make sense. It implies that if you put a Brit, a Canadian, a Pole, a Chinaman, an Irishman etc in a room they would each be an ethnic minority even though each ethnic group is equally represented.

Of course one could also infer that it means "British" ethnic group could be eventually classed as an ethnic minority if the sum of all the other ethnic groups' populations exceed its own.

Is that true? I know they can prioritise certain religions, as I was told at about this time last year not to bother wasting a choice on my lad's secondary school application form by going for one particular school, because he had minimal chance for getting in as he's not baptised a Catholic.

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Probably something to do with the fact that discrimination is only seen by the bleaters as being something that only happens against those of a different culture & colour. As your boy's white, British, Christian (I assume protestant), well that's just your problem & you've got to get on with it, seems to be the attitude.

Now, had they said it against someone who speaks differently or has a skin tone different to white, there would've been outrage one would assume & every type of equalities enforcer would be out in support of the poor offended.

I may be wrong & way of the mark, but as a Brit abroad, looking in to Uk today that's how it appears to be to me.

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No doubt the BBC would get Rajesh Mirchandani on the case:D

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You've hit the nail on the head there :D

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So you reckon if a black british born boys protestant parents had applied for the same catholic school and got a refusal there would have been all types of "equalities enforcers" out in support?...in your own words you are looking at this as a Brit abroad.. it shows ..you are out of touch mate.

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It strikes me that all this is not really racist.. it's more like "exclusionist"..or "exclusionism" ;)

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'Black, and minority ethnic ladies only'.

People are being excluded because of their race.

Therefore it's racist.

;)

Same as when they state 'No idiots'.

When they exclude you from things.

;)

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Could be true.. plenty of idots in the fashion and arts game seems to get on with no problems... but if you ain't gay you have no chance.. exclusionism is rife in all parts of the work place and society.. seems you pick and choose.:)

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No point trying to reason with you.

Obviously drunk.

There are laws which mean jobs can't be advertised that discriminate along lines of sexual orientation.

Just as they are laws which mean race discrimination is unlawful.

Though some in Accrington seem able to ignore those.

Go to sleep.

You might not be quite so blinkered when sober.

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As stated earlier, all those London boarding houses in the fifties and sixties, which had signs in their windows saying 'No blacks', weren't racist in your eyes, I suppose?

They were merely 'excluding' certain people.

Nothing at all to do with race.

:rolleyes:

:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

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Oh yeah.

I forgot.

Some discrimination is perfectly alright in your book....when you've had a few.

Homophobia being one such thing.

You really should stop yourself from posting when you've had a drink.

The odds of you winning a debate are tiny at the best of times.

When you're pished, those odds go down to nil.

;)

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Whatever..and are there winners and losers of what you call "debates" on here?.. seems to me any "debate" started by you are controlled by yourself :confused:

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Not at all.

Everyone has the right to reply.

When something's blatantly racist, such as, and I quote, 'black and ethnic minority ladies only', and it's dismissed as not being racism, but 'exclusionism'.

I'll happily label that blinkered thinking idiotic all day long.

If you think that 'controls' you, tough.

It is clear, and open racism, and is wrong.

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I suppose you'd call it just 'exclusionism', rather than racism, when in the seventies the National Front were calling for the repatriation for anyone whose skin wasn't white?

Well it was racist. Just as this 'BME ladies only' is.

I publicly challenged the National Front, and I'll do the same thing with this blatant racism, because it's just as wrong.

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Some one once suggested that Mancie should have a breathalyser on his computer, so that when the alcohol gets to a certain level it cuts out, not such a bad idea me thinks:rolleyes::rolleyes:;)

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Would Guy Gibson's dog be allowed?

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Think that's already been mentioned yerself;)

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That was in another thread.

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Didn't realise there were 2 threads dealing with racism running at this time:rolleyes:

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Yes Mancie I do ! Simply because of the rules governing equality which are meant to be applied equally across the board to all creeds, colours, genders & persuasions, are more forcefully applied when dealing with a perceived attack on a "minority". Those taking up the torch would see the issue more as a racial issue than a religious one simply because they have a better chance of success on race grounds than religious ones, religion would be a secondary issue.

The press abounds with such tales of discrimination in all walks of life, as I've mentioned elsewhere there is a level of racism & discrimination in all of us & that will never change. As long as we remain human & can't be programmed to think & act in a certain way prejudices will be eternal.

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Who said there were? Here's the post from another thread.
http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/890061-post123.html

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No, because he was a boy dog, and as well as discriminating along racial lines, they are also sexist.

;):D

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Well that thread sort of turned into a racist thing didn't it really we even got a new word banned:D

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Typical stuff.. creepy crawley Jaysay gets involved ..the queen of accyweb has already spoken...poles apart (so told)..god help those who dare to differ from thier opinon.. :eek:...

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Oh dear!!:hidewall:

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Mancie I'll always differ from your opinion whatever it is :thefinger

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Just for the record - about 50 people came to see the play yesterday, mostly young people. The audience was about half split between white and asian. Out of the 50, only 3 were boys.

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Good turn out.

Still doesn't take away from the fact that the group Lancashire-wide Network for Ethnic Minority Women, who presented the performance, are openly discriminating against people racially.

Which is supposedly illegal, as well as being morally abhorrent.

Re: This isn't racist?
 

You'll notice that I'm not actually arguing with you on this one Garinda.

All I'm doing is clarifying that the Arts Centre doesn't accept any discrimination and that as far as I'm concerned the show was open to everyone and anyone, and pointing out that as far as this event is concerned the Lancashire Wide Network for Ethnic Women didn't discriminate either.

I just thought you might be interested in the audience breakdown.

Re: This isn't racist?
 

This means nothing. Why are some of the audience described by their colour and others by their continent of origin? Are there not any white asians?

Re: This isn't racist?
 

This thread is about the group who presented the play, Lancashire-wide Network for Ethnic Minority Women.

An openly racist group, who happen to be part financially supported by the tax payer.

The last funding figures I can find are from 2006.

A year which saw them receive £44,200.00 from Lancashire County Council, and £3,290.00 from Hyndburn Borough Council.

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This blatantly racist group are worse than the B.N.P., who have at least been forced by the courts to ensure their membership isn't restricted along lines of race, or ethnicity.

The racist material they are publishing breaks the law, under the Race Relations Act of 1976.