Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 897777)

Come on be honest.. the EDL do come across as idiots.
This EDL bloke is complaining about mosques not being built in Mecca..it's a good laugh:D

Originally Posted by Restless (Post 897778)

I doubt it has changed all that much in 10 years

Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 897773)

I can't be arsed to read all through the posts and join in with a political argument that has no real conclusion, I'd just like to add that I'd solve many problems by doing with translators.

If you can't speak English then you shouldn't be here claiming our benefits or using our judicial system, or sitting in our doctors waiting rooms. It fair irks me sitting in an NHS outlet and nearly all the posters are in foreign language.

Originally Posted by Bagpuss (Post 897789)

How wrong you are going to be when the figures are released, if you believe them:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 897740)

The EDL aren't a political party so their protests & shouting can't bring about anything in a political sense, but they are rather loud & prominent in their presence. I feel that a lot of what they say is privately held to be true by many less vociferous proponents (for whatever reasons), but this "agreement" is tempered by the view that the bulk of EDL supporters are white, workingclass, poorly educated, football hooligans or ex BNP supporters.

The EDL claim of being multiracial & all encompassing, non discriminatory (sexually or racially) with the stated aim of preventing the creep of Islam & its associated tenets across the UK, while sounding reasonable doesn't really appear that way when viewing the supporters seen at such demonstrations, (I refer here purely to colour as at a glance you can't really make out someones sexual orientation in most cases) admittedly a Sikh chap is frequently mentioned but that appears to be all, not many Asian faces can be seen within the EDL ranks at these rallies.

Having said that though, because of the obvious support overt & covert for the EDL, plus the self claimed increase in new supporters allegedly swelling their ranks, isn't it time for politicians to seriously look at the issues & insist on a more vocal & open debate with the parties concerned to show unity & highlight just what is expected & meant by tolerance, integration & acceptance, these goals should be mutual to improve cohesion within communities & the wider UK, respect is a 2 way street & all sides need to partake & make concessions where applicable.

But & it's a big but, the UK's sovereignty & statutes should be the overriding denominator in all things, this is the UK when all is said & done so all British citizens & guests should abide & adhere to her laws & rules when in residence within her shores. For those not fortune enough to be born within this sceptred Isle or her dominions, you chose her because of her liberal attitudes, right to freedom, graciousness & bounty, so accept them & do not try to enforce change on her & her people, parallel societies are divisive ! Should you wish to live by "your ways & morals" she is not for you, so go where such ways are practised & may you find happiness in your choice.

Originally Posted by Restless (Post 897793)

Hey i will hold my hands up and say I am wrong if that % is higher for muslims :p

Originally Posted by Bagpuss (Post 897795)

Top post Dave, at the moment it's about making noise so more people will understand what the EDL is. They cannot stop skinheads and football fans from joining but they are attempting to remove any nazis that may have joined whilst at the same time encourging all people from all faiths and gender to join.

Originally Posted by Bagpuss (Post 897786)

Yeah we've all seen those vids, now would you like me to post some of your leftie friends or maybe a couple about those peaceful members of the muslim community?

I won't because that's childish ;):tongueout

Originally Posted by walkinman221 (Post 897807)

Does that include Muslims then?:confused:

Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 897809)

I posted the vid because it's funny...left wing,right wing, muslim.. you can stick what you like on it's not down to me :D

Originally Posted by Bagpuss (Post 897819)

Of course they are funny, they are all videos of me.:D

Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 897820)

:D.. can't all be you.. no sign of a scouse accent in any of them! :)

Originally Posted by Bagpuss (Post 897792)

This is one of many things that needs changing and believe me Rob you are not alone in being annoyed.:mad: