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Personally I think there's too much emphasis on higher education. There are already too many Micky Mouse degree courses. With most not having a cat in Hell's chance of working in the field in which they've been trained. If you're that good, and people want what you produce, you don't even need any formal arts training. |
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One of the most successful artists I personally knew, if you discount Hockney, and Gilbert and George, was apprenticed to a painter, straight out of school, and had people queueing up to buy his work at fifty grand a pop, in the late eighties.
No formal art education. No state funding. People purely appreciated what he did, and were prepared to pay handsomely for it. |
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Turner was a pupil at the R.A., and Morris was privately educated. As working artists they were self-financing. None of them relied on handouts from the tax payer. As stated earlier, those who do have genuine talent will find a place in art education, if they so wish. Those whose ambition outweighs their talent, will have to think of some other way to make a living. Sink or swim. Just like the rest of the working world. ;) |
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...and what qualifies you, and your opinion, of not being ignorant? As you presume everyone else is. |
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I have said before, the internet is very unforgiving, in that, it doesn't allow for the nuances of face to face speech....and as such it is remarkably easy to give offence. You could have avoided this in a very simple way by adding the word 'some'. As in, some people are ignorant of the effects of the cuts....better still would have been some people are uaware of how the cuts in art funding will affect their lives. Then you could have strenghthened your case by educating those whom you deemed ignorant. You could have outlined why you think Art is an important aspect of daily life...it is obviously important in your life......perhaps less so in the lives of others. |
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I find peoples response interesting thats all, I was simply curious as to how people thought it would affect them.
Yes things do come across in a very blunt way sometimes on the net, but in truth don't think I could have avoided it because this is how some threads seem to run on here. I am certainly not expecting everybody to have an opinion that agrees with mine, not at all, but feel that because my opinion doesn't match that of others I am in the firing line. No matter though. I have said why I think that creativity is important, especially in the younger end of education. However I still stand by what I said when I said 'people are unaware of how the cuts in art funding will affect their lives' being unaware of something or being ignorant to something is the same thing. I wasn't using ignorant as a derogatory term. So apologies if it caused offense. |
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Keetah, it is good that you stand by what you said......you have to have the courage of your convictions.
Artistic pursuits still happen in primay schools......you can clearly see that by standing by the gates of any school around Easter time...seeing the children bringing home t heir home made hats, depictions of eggs and other such stuff. This week at the school my daughters two children attend, they are making decorated crowns to wear at their street party on Thursday, to celebrate the Royal Wedding...they were sent home with templates and the children were asked to make the crowns as colourful as possible using whatever material they liked.......but putting coins on to represent the 'sparkle'...this money will go into the schools coffers and the children as a whole will benefit from it in a variety of ways(theatre visits...travelling art exhibitions aimed purely at children, science workshops etc etc)So with some imagination and work artistic pursuits can still be enjoyed.......and children will still be bringing home those smudgie pictures to grace the fridge door. Now whether these children will be fired with enthusiasm to continue their artistic pursuits or even the appreciation of art(in all its forms)when they go to secondary school, well I guess that is down to the child and the school. |
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As you have such an indepth insight into how the cuts will affect the arts, particularly in education, making you not 'ignorant', unlike the rest of us, how have you gained this knowledge? Were you professionally involved? |
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If the children aren't building dens and enjoying 'tactile experiences' they might have more time to learn to read,write and do maths. Going off what employers and universities say they certainly need it. A childs first painting at school will be impossible without arts grant support? Don't be foolish. Designers, architects, wheelchair designers? Now you're really bringing tears to my eyes. Not one of those you list needs or gets arts grant support. I HOPE! I wouldn't like to live in a house designed by an architect who couldn't survive without an arts grant. Times are bad. People who come from 'northern impoverished old mill towns' need a lot of convincing that the taxes they pay should, at the moment, be spent on art, or even Art. Forget the emotion and give us just one thing from the art world you think needs and deserves some of the money we're currently borrowing from the rest of the world! |
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I think she might mean the Mooney family, rather than the religious sect. :)
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I, at 15 was given the opportunity to train as a butcher and took that job at £3 a week and happy to do it. It was about my level at that time and was accepted. I do not know anyone at my school who went on to university in 1954? I have never in my life been without a job and if I could not find one I have found a way legally to make money for myself and my family and pay my tax. I am now 72 years old and still think of ways of making money,I think there must be a lesson in there somewhere? |
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