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jaysay 14-05-2011 08:59

Re: Scottish Referendum
 
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Originally Posted by gynn (Post 905958)
The term "Scottish Independence" is a complete misnomer. Independence from what?

What is being discussed is a repeal of the Act of Union, which will affect the people of England, Wales and Northern Ireland as equally as the people of Scotland. Their views are just as valid, so must be included in any referendum.

Well its half way there already, at present we have Scots MPs vote on issues at Westminster that don't affect the people who voted for them, to me I can't see how that is anyway near being democratic, neither is people in England paying for elderly care, tuition fees, prescriptions and hospital parking, whilst the Scots get it free subsidised by the English tax payers, this situation could only happen in Britain, no beggar else would stand for it:mad:

MargaretR 14-05-2011 09:03

Re: Scottish Referendum
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gynn (Post 905958)
The term "Scottish Independence" is a complete misnomer. Independence from what?

What is being discussed is a repeal of the Act of Union, which will affect the people of England, Wales and Northern Ireland as equally as the people of Scotland. Their views are just as valid, so must be included in any referendum.

I agree - I want the border to be in Birmingham

shillelagh 14-05-2011 16:44

Re: Scottish Referendum
 
doubt if they'll go for it ....

jaysay 15-05-2011 09:10

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Originally Posted by shillelagh (Post 906112)
doubt if they'll go for it ....

They know which side their bread's buttered:rolleyes:

gynn 26-06-2012 03:41

Re: Scottish Referendum
 
Interesting to note that the campaign to keep Scotland in the Union is being led by a Labour politician, Alistair Darling.

Presumably putting a Conservative figure anywhere near the campaign would be seen as a gift to the SNP?

garinda 26-06-2012 04:42

Re: Scottish Referendum
 
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Originally Posted by gynn (Post 999805)
Interesting to note that the campaign to keep Scotland in the Union is being led by a Labour politician, Alistair Darling.

Presumably putting a Conservative figure anywhere near the campaign would be seen as a gift to the SNP?

There was a high-profile launch of Better Together yesterday.

With the Scottish Conservative's Annabel Goldie pictured, together with Darling, hanging from the rafters, behind the cross-party's campaign banner, at Edinburgh station.

gynn 26-06-2012 05:41

Re: Scottish Referendum
 
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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 999807)
There was a high-profile launch of Better Together yesterday.

With the Scottish Conservative's Annabel Goldie pictured, together with Darling, hanging from the rafters, behind the cross-party's campaign banner, at Edinburgh station.

It must be one of the few issues on which Labour Conservatives and LibDems agree.

The SNP argument seems to be founded on cherry picking the bits that suit them (eg North Sea Oil) but not the bits that don't (eg retaining the pound and the monarchy)

It is a completely fabricated case which adds up to total nonsense, and its only credibility seems to come from Alex Salmonds political nous.

garinda 26-06-2012 06:21

Re: Scottish Referendum
 
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Originally Posted by gynn (Post 999809)
It must be one of the few issues on which Labour Conservatives and LibDems agree.

The SNP argument seems to be founded on cherry picking the bits that suit them (eg North Sea Oil) but not the bits that don't (eg retaining the pound and the monarchy)

It is a completely fabricated case which adds up to total nonsense, and its only credibility seems to come from Alex Salmonds political nous.

Yes, they're in for a shock.

When the price of deep-fried Mars bars soars, because of import tax.

:D

gynn 26-06-2012 07:03

Re: Scottish Referendum
 
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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 999810)
Yes, they're in for a shock.

When the price of deep-fried Mars bars soars, because of import tax.

:D

...and when they have to find homes for (and pay benefits to) the many millions of their countrymen who moved south looking for a better life, and will be forcibly repatriated as undesirable aliens.

jaysay 26-06-2012 08:58

Re: Scottish Referendum
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gynn (Post 999805)
Interesting to note that the campaign to keep Scotland in the Union is being led by a Labour politician, Alistair Darling.

Presumably putting a Conservative figure anywhere near the campaign would be seen as a gift to the SNP?

The no to independence campaign is supported by the three main parties in jockland, Tory Lib/dem and Labour

jaysay 26-06-2012 08:59

Re: Scottish Referendum
 
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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 999810)
Yes, they're in for a shock.

When the price of deep-fried Mars bars soars, because of import tax.

:D

And don't forget deep fried Choc Ices either:D

garinda 26-06-2012 16:34

Re: Scottish Referendum
 
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Originally Posted by gynn (Post 999812)
...and when they have to find homes for (and pay benefits to) the many millions of their countrymen who moved south looking for a better life, and will be forcibly repatriated as undesirable aliens.

Yes, pack your wee tartan bag Lulu.

You're going home hen.


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cmonstanley 26-06-2012 19:34

Re: Scottish Referendum
 
i keep asking snp supporters one question,and that is currency:confused::D
they havent got a clue:D

ToffeeGuy 26-06-2012 23:11

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Scotland hasn't been independent for over 300 years. I can't think of any other country which has become separate after such a long time. Most of the European nations who have become independent in recent times where part of 'artifical' nations created in the war-torn 20th century. Yugoslavia, Czechoslovakia etc.

Scotland wanting independence is a bit like Texas wanting independence from the USA. Or Mercia, Wessex, East Anglia and Northumbria wanting to split away from a unified England.

It isn't going to happen.

Boeing Guy 27-06-2012 07:00

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I'm with Jay on this ne, the Welsh have the same benefits.
Give them indepenance, but of course, seeing territorial waters is only 13 miles off the coast we will keep the rigs:D


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