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cmonstanley 02-06-2011 10:44

tories the party for immigration
 
looks like another lie from the tories just to save money a little birdie says theyve banned overtime BBC News - Asylum seekers 'granted amnesty' by UK Border Agency

garinda 02-06-2011 10:48

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 910094)
looks like another lie from the tories just to save money a little birdie says theyve banned overtime BBC News - Asylum seekers 'granted amnesty' by UK Border Agency

Take a lot of man hours, to try and cope with this...

More than three million migrants under Labour - Telegraph

garinda 02-06-2011 10:51

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Makes interesting reading...

Labour accused of covering up warnings about immigration - Telegraph

Boeing Guy 02-06-2011 10:51

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You see the problem is this, the last governments massive mistakes are past history, after all the coalition has had a massive 13 months to sort the country out and the previous lot only had 13 years to screw it up.....

Maybe Bee has a new friend????

cmonstanley 02-06-2011 11:25

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just the reply i was expecting, so thats alright now thats at least 450,000 more than labour were letting in ,in a year so lets asess the situation.
countries heading for a double dip= tory policy give more money to other countries,put more people on the dole,let immigration get out of control,lets borrow more money for our chums,lets let the multinationals avoid paying their tax looks like they are going to do more damage to britain than labour ever did:eek:

cmonstanley 02-06-2011 11:26

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Originally Posted by Boeing Guy (Post 910098)
You see the problem is this, the last governments massive mistakes are past history, after all the coalition has had a massive 13 months to sort the country out and the previous lot only had 13 years to screw it up.....

Maybe Bee has a new friend????

tell me one thing they have done for the man/woman on the street apart from put more on the dole:confused:

garinda 02-06-2011 11:31

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 910110)
just the reply i was expecting

Snap.

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Boeing Guy 02-06-2011 11:41

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Silly me, I thought that the last Government messed the country up, you know little things like: Removal of Civil Liberties, Selling our Gold Reserves off cheap, Going to war on a lie, I could go on. However I am wrong and as such should realise that Tony was indeed made of teflon, and Gordon is not one eyed, or blind. Even the so called 'there's no more money left' note is a Tory lie....Of course I never saw you complain about anything they did.

I have very little time for all three sides, they all eat from the same trough.

DaveinGermany 02-06-2011 11:47

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 910110)
thats at least 450,000 more than labour were letting in

Cobblers ! From the report you posted as far back as 2006 the problem was known about & what did your beloved Labour do ? Did they clamp down ? Did they repatriate the offenders ? Did they say no more ? Did they hell as like, they allowed more in to bolster support for their ideologies.

http://www.google.de/url?sa=t&source...BqrNDg&cad=rja

You really shouldn't shout so loudly, it's not a problem that has just happened recently look at the information in what you've posted 2006, John Reid (one of yours I believe ;)) could you give us a quick reminder as to who was in the driving seat then ..... ? :)

DaveinGermany 02-06-2011 11:53

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 910112)

G you got that the wrong way round mate !

In every crowd there's always one isn't there ? Some times more, but definitely one ! C'mon step forward & introduce yourself. ;) :D

cmonstanley 02-06-2011 11:55

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:confused:
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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 910118)
Cobblers ! From the report you posted as far back as 2006 the problem was known about & what did your beloved Labour do ? Did they clamp down ? Did they repatriate the offenders ? Did they say no more ? Did they hell as like, they allowed more in to bolster support for their ideologies.

http://www.google.de/url?sa=t&source...BqrNDg&cad=rja

You really shouldn't shout so loudly, it's not a problem that has just happened recently look at the information in what you've posted 2006, John Reid (one of yours I believe ;)) could you give us a quick reminder as to who was in the driving seat then ..... ? :)

they set up the border agency which stopped most illegal immigrants since records began ,they set up the extra passport offices to interview immigrants oooohhhh i forgot the tories closed them down to save money more myths kepp reading the prada..anyway forget about that can anybody defend the tories without mentioning labour

garinda 02-06-2011 12:10

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I find it very difficult to take anything seriously, or see any logic in what they say, from someone who said some nutter stabbing a dog, justifies them leaving the Accrington area.

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 880389)
this is sick Beagle dog stabbed to death in Accrington (From Lancashire Telegraph) i would be very worried about this .who or what is going to be the next victim.it is a known fact that serial killers start with animals if anybody knows anything i would report it straight away.this is scary kinda justifies moving away.

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...ick-56706.html

:rolleyes:

DaveinGermany 02-06-2011 12:19

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 910120)
they set up the border agency which stopped most illegal immigrants since records began

http://www.google.de/url?sa=t&source...RGR4yg&cad=rja

1905 Aliens Act :- Balfour (Con) or Campbell-Bannerman (Lib)
1914 Aliens registration Act :-Asquith (Lib)
1919 Aliens restriction Act :- Lloyd George (Lib)
1971 The Immigration Act :- Heath (Con)

So in all this time were, were your much lauded Labour Party ?

DaveinGermany 02-06-2011 12:40

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 910120)
kepp reading the prada..

anyway forget about that can anybody defend the tories without mentioning labour

:confused::confused: Why should we read about an Italian Fashion label ? Or is that a poke at Rindi ?

As to defending Tories, at present we've a Coalition in power (in case you've forgotten it's an amalgamation of parties). So is neither fish nor fowl ! That makes Conservatives/ Labour the only viable Parties (I use the term viable very, very loosely here !) So one cannot argue the relative merits/faults of a particular party without recourse to a comparative opposition party hence the Con vs Lab or Lab vs Con argument. :)

Simple really & as you fit that bill I thought you'd have grasped this basic tenet. :rolleyes:

garinda 02-06-2011 12:52

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 910128)
Why should we read about an Italian Fashion label ? Or is that a poke at Rindi ?

It makes a little more sense than telling those he thinks of as right-wing, to carry on reading Pravda, the communist state newspaper of the U.S.S.R.

Halston, Gucci, Fiorucci, and the Morning Star....I read 'em all.

Educashun, edukashun, hedukation.
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DaveinGermany 02-06-2011 15:54

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 910129)
It makes a little more sense than telling those he thinks of as right-wing, to carry on reading Pravda, the communist state newspaper of the U.S.S.R.

Had thought that's what he meant, but why expect supporters of those Wicked Tories (as we're perceived by some to be) to pick up what would undoubtedly be anathema to such followers !!! :eek: :rolleyes:

Margaret Pilkington 02-06-2011 16:19

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Will someone please pass the vinegar down the table.......it is to flavour the tripe that someone on here is talking......C'monstanley....you are the nearest...pass it down!

Benipete 02-06-2011 17:16

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Of course now all these people are legal and entitled to the minimum wage we will have to allow another 500,000 in to work for the gentry of both parties in order to pick their crops for 50 bob an hour.:hidewall::D:D.

I know It's not that funny But true.:mad::mad:

jaysay 02-06-2011 17:17

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I haven't really much to say on this that hasn't been rammed down our friend in the Norths throat already, I just add one, Labours open door policy, end of story

Tealeaf 02-06-2011 17:26

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Lets just make sure we keep all these nasty e.coli carrying germans out of the country.

garinda 02-06-2011 21:10

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I like semenstanley.

Anyone who disagrees with him is a right-wing fascist.

Makes a change for me.

I'm normally accused of being a Labour apologist, or red under the bed.

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Mancie 02-06-2011 21:39

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Maybe Clegg and the Lib-Dems have had a quite word with Cameron... afterall an amnesty for illegals was in their pre-election manifesto :eek:

http://www.immigrationmatters.co.uk/4321.html

cashman 02-06-2011 21:43

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immigration has been a ruddy joke fer donkeys years, neither party has made any real effort to solve it, just empty rhetoric, to call one side oer the other is pathetic IMHO.:rolleyes:

Benipete 03-06-2011 08:05

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 910203)
immigration has been a ruddy joke fer donkeys years, neither party has made any real effort to solve it, just empty rhetoric, to call one side oer the other is pathetic IMHO.:rolleyes:

With you on that one,Some of these cases go back 20years so that would appear to cover all of the political bigots.

cashman 03-06-2011 08:08

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Originally Posted by Benipete (Post 910235)
With you on that one,Some of these cases go back 20years so that would appear to cover all of the political bigots.

Yep thats fact, the blind can see more than some.:rolleyes:

Neil 03-06-2011 08:09

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I watched this subject on the news last night.
Can't help thinking if all the money paid out to illegals in benefits was used to send them home they would have enough money to cover the cost.

I can almost agree with letting those here stay for now because there are to many to deal with as long as all new ones are prevented and dealt with correctly. Only almost though as I know it would never work and we will be doing the same thing again in 5 years with millions more.

Once they have sorted out our borders and stopped in inrush then start back tracking the old cases.

cashman 03-06-2011 08:15

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what should concern people is fer years this subject has been a breeding ground fer parties such as the "Nation Front" n its offshoots, whilst the masses see these fer what they are, seems to me, more decent people are leaning towards em, cos the mainstream parties have done sod all.:eek: i predict unless this subject is solved properly, one day these parties will become mainstream.:eek:

jaysay 03-06-2011 08:41

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 910238)
what should concern people is fer years this subject has been a breeding ground fer parties such as the "Nation Front" n its offshoots, whilst the masses see these fer what they are, seems to me, more decent people are leaning towards em, cos the mainstream parties have done sod all.:eek: i predict unless this subject is solved properly, one day these parties will become mainstream.:eek:

Unfortunately we need a modern day King Qunoot, to turn the tide back cashy, but once the gates are open it very hard to stem the tide, especially when we life in a country full of dogooders who think we should allow the world and his wife to come here and milk the system:mad::mad:

cmonstanley 03-06-2011 09:53

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they dont need to come here, we will just send some money over as the tory open policy is to save them time and send the money to their country of choice;)

jaysay 03-06-2011 10:24

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 910272)
they dont need to come here, we will just send some money over as the tory open policy is to save them time and send the money to their country of choice;)

Well why are the climbing over one another to get here if that's the case, Britain is the first choice of all these so called asylum seekers, I wonder why that is, email Blair and Brown they might have an answer for you

DaveinGermany 03-06-2011 12:50

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 910278)
Well why are the climbing over one another to get here

Because UK has one of the most easily accessible & generous welfare states in Europe, they kowtow to the EU & take on board every petty directive to come out of Brussels & beat down the populace with them. Further to that, the powers that be are gutless & spineless & will not stand up for the vast majority of the electorate who are justly becoming more concerned about the influx of foreigners for fear of being deemed racist, bigoted or xenophobic, then having some whining liberal bleating about Human rights (Jeez I could Puke !).

The rest of Europe, places like Germany, France & Holland are starting to stand up for their peoples rights by saying no to Brussels & that enough is enough as far as the immigration situation is concerned, you want to live here, learn our language & ways, it really is that simple. But UK Bureau's & agencies just bend over further & supply the incomer the relevant forms in their own language & when they don't have the paper work they supply an interpreter - WRONG,WRONG-WRONG !

The situation has been ongoing for far to many years & all parties are complicit in the sorry state the UK finds itself in at present. Labours open door policy certainly exacerbated the problem, but "call me Dave" & "Gormless Nick", certainly aren't making things better. They'll cut immigration from outside the EU, was the big spectacle, but it doesn't bring squat as the bulk of the problem is the EU immigration.

The initial influx was Polish migrant workers & here the strains were starting to show due to the effect on the UK economy & infrastructure, then x years later & now these thieves, racketeers & problem children from Latvia, Lithuania, Romania who're riddled with disease that have been eradicated in western Europe for many years but are now in resurgence due to the nature of life in the old Soviet Eastern block Countries ! Admittedly they aren't all criminals, but sadly the focus is brought to bear because of such people.

The only way the UK can get back on an even keel, is to stop all immigration, right now, sort through the current deluge, deport all those who require deporting no ifs, buts or maybes & without recourse to appeal ! If Miss Shakrabati is so keen on these peoples rights let her & others like her fund their costs, no tax payers money in legal aid or subsistence & those lawyers who've been screwing the system should share punishment with those criminals they support !

No doubt there'll be a furore over my comments & I expect to take a hammering for my views, but I feel I am only saying what many are afraid of saying out loud or in public, there will be those that hold similar opinions but daren't speak them for fear of repercussions, I don't hold with the BNP, they are extreme, but what I do feel strongly about is British Sovereignty which is being chipped away at by successive Governments who don't have the balls to stand up for the British people.

The British in this case being all those born within our borders, that includes all races, colours & religions who see the UK as their home & our ways as their ways, those who've settled & fitted in with the way UK is & not just coming for what they can get then pishing off back to whence they came when things get tough or they've screwed the system for what they can !

I won't go on, as you can see the issue really gets my back up & the thing that makes it so much worse is there's nothing I can do to prevent what I see happening to the UK ! I along with many others have to stand by emasculated & helpless while a succession of self serving gutless Ar'soles destroy the Country of my birth ! It truly is soul destroying !

Retlaw 03-06-2011 15:04

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 910289)
Because UK has one of the most easily accessible & generous welfare states in Europe, they kowtow to the EU & take on board every petty directive to come out of Brussels & beat down the populace with them. Further to that, the powers that be are gutless & spineless & will not stand up for the vast majority of the electorate who are justly becoming more concerned about the influx of foreigners for fear of being deemed racist, bigoted or xenophobic, then having some whining liberal bleating about Human rights (Jeez I could Puke !).

The rest of Europe, places like Germany, France & Holland are starting to stand up for their peoples rights by saying no to Brussels & that enough is enough as far as the immigration situation is concerned, you want to live here, learn our language & ways, it really is that simple. But UK Bureau's & agencies just bend over further & supply the incomer the relevant forms in their own language & when they don't have the paper work they supply an interpreter - WRONG,WRONG-WRONG !

The situation has been ongoing for far to many years & all parties are complicit in the sorry state the UK finds itself in at present. Labours open door policy certainly exacerbated the problem, but "call me Dave" & "Gormless Nick", certainly aren't making things better. They'll cut immigration from outside the EU, was the big spectacle, but it doesn't bring squat as the bulk of the problem is the EU immigration.

The initial influx was Polish migrant workers & here the strains were starting to show due to the effect on the UK economy & infrastructure, then x years later & now these thieves, racketeers & problem children from Latvia, Lithuania, Romania who're riddled with disease that have been eradicated in western Europe for many years but are now in resurgence due to the nature of life in the old Soviet Eastern block Countries ! Admittedly they aren't all criminals, but sadly the focus is brought to bear because of such people.

The only way the UK can get back on an even keel, is to stop all immigration, right now, sort through the current deluge, deport all those who require deporting no ifs, buts or maybes & without recourse to appeal ! If Miss Shakrabati is so keen on these peoples rights let her & others like her fund their costs, no tax payers money in legal aid or subsistence & those lawyers who've been screwing the system should share punishment with those criminals they support !

No doubt there'll be a furore over my comments & I expect to take a hammering for my views, but I feel I am only saying what many are afraid of saying out loud or in public, there will be those that hold similar opinions but daren't speak them for fear of repercussions, I don't hold with the BNP, they are extreme, but what I do feel strongly about is British Sovereignty which is being chipped away at by successive Governments who don't have the balls to stand up for the British people.

The British in this case being all those born within our borders, that includes all races, colours & religions who see the UK as their home & our ways as their ways, those who've settled & fitted in with the way UK is & not just coming for what they can get then pishing off back to whence they came when things get tough or they've screwed the system for what they can !

I won't go on, as you can see the issue really gets my back up & the thing that makes it so much worse is there's nothing I can do to prevent what I see happening to the UK ! I along with many others have to stand by emasculated & helpless while a succession of self serving gutless Ar'soles destroy the Country of my birth ! It truly is soul destroying !

I'll second that, those do gooders, should
fund any costs or shut up.
Its as bad as an infestation of cockroaches.
Retlaw.


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