Hyndburn Life ?
 

Just seen a billboard poster advertising a new Hyndburn Community website called HyndburnLife. Located at HyndburnLife.co.uk. I assume this is a council run thing due to the large cost of billboard advertising.

Anybody know anything about it? Is it going to be competition for us?
Can we compete with a council run website with unlimited public funds for advertising?

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Looks like a typical council job. It's only the council who use Hyndburn as their main header...every one else is Accy, Ossy, Church, etc.....

I wonder where they got the dosh from to pay for it? Probably from flogging the Market Hall.

Unless, of course, it's Kipax with one of his schemes...

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I wouldn't worry about the competition. If it's a HBC run website it's bound to fall on its ar$e like everything else that they do...:D

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i wouldnt worry bout it roy, i cannot get on it even though its supposed to start this week (Typical hbc) but much prefare this site anyway, lots of good & sound issues on here :)

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Well, I for one will not be deserting accyweb. However if it is HBC I shall certainly be sticking my oar in :D

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Competition?
What Competition?
There is NO Competition.

ACCYWEB. Is the BEST there is.

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Interesting to note that whoever is making the website is using Microsoft Visual Studio 7.0 which tells me they are going to make a website thats not cross and backward compatible and the author doesn't know enough not to use such toys.

Supisingly though.. whoever set this up has used there brains in the domain reg department and registered all the more common TLDs such as com/net/org as well as the co.uk ... The reason you do this is to protect the domain.

If for example you have hyndburnlife.co.uk and you put a lot of resources and advertising into making it a big busy website.... whoever registers hyndburnlife.com can cash in on your success..so they protected themselves .. well done... i was gong to purchase the .com :) drat!

This is going to be interesting and yes it will be competition if they make it interactive. The regulars here may not go.. But I would use it and others would I am sure (some already say they will even if just to give em hell).. Then theres the new people on the net (thousands every crimbo) would go to the offiicial hyndburn messageboard as advertised all over hyndburn rather than a private run one.. They will be under the impression that someone from the council is reading and gives a damm what they are writing and over time will be an even bigger threat.

But.. they tried a messageboard once and gave up in less than a week... they might not try it again..... or ?

Lets wait and see...


Time to ressurect my hyndburn domain... wheres me pink crayons .. :)

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This is where it comes from.....money wasted by HBC on yet another bucket of snot:

http://www.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/Your_Co...B_March_04.pdf

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[QUOTE=KIPAX]Interesting to note that whoever is making the website is using Microsoft Visual Studio 7.0 which tells me they are going to make a website thats not cross and backward compatible and the author doesn't know enough not to use such toys.]


Cross and Backward - don't they make tomato soup or something?:D

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Had a look @ the report 14 pages long, (quite small considering who commisioned it), however they seem to be more interested in peoples income groups rather than what can be done to make it an interesting site for any-one that wishes to use it.:confused:

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Right......lets have a look and see where HBC have spent our money......(Extracts in red)

EXECUTIVE SUMMARY:

Final paragraph...."The survey suggests that the number of people with internet access is increasing..."

I never knew that. Did you?

USE OF THE INTERNET IN HYNDBURN:

"46% (53% Weighted) use the Internet at home......comparable national figures exist"

So that must be why HBC has blown thousands on this report, to prove that Hyndburn is no different than the rest of the UK. Clever stuff. Good job there's nowt else to spend our money on.

"...65+ year olds who have access to the internet are more likel;y to use it than any other age group......"

I wonder why. You'd think they'd have a job to go to instead of sitting around on their arse all day fooling around on their computer. This is an amazing bit of research finding. I think I shall forward this crucial breakthrough on to the Nobel Prize committee for Economics.

FREQUENT INTERNET USE...IN THE LAST 2 WEEKS (Penultimate paragraph, page 14)

"The table below shows use of the internet for all survey respondents....

TABLE TABLE TABLE....Blah ..Blah.....

...Unfortunatly,the low response levels make it hard to analyse this with any accuracy.."


In other words, everything you've read so far is a load of old bollocks and has statistics go, totally useless! Ah well, into the recycle bin.

Come in Acrylic-Bob....where are you?

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HOPELESS AND BLUDDY HELPLESS!

A fine example of a pointless waste of public money. Is it any wonder that we are heading for a second year of budget deficit? Instead of implementing policies mandated by the electorate they prefer to waste time, effort and resources on this drivel.
It proves, yet again, just how woefully out of touch this council really is.

Incapable of providing the services they were mandated to deliver, in anything like a reasonable manner, they seek to deflect attention from their incompetance by providing the modern equivalent of that good old standby of the Roman Empire, Bread and Circuses. Well, actually, since the site they advertise isn't anything more than a placeholder page, they can't even do that much yet.

Hyndburn Borough Council, Plenty of talk, lots of hot air, but little imagination and less action.

However, they are in for an extremley rude awakening when the site eventually does "Go Live". Always assuming they have the guts to invite comment,that is.

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What a load of waffle! Not you A-b, the link Tealeaf provided.

Nobody asked me if I have internet access. I wonder how many people were actually asked? Anyone on here?

That's an excercise in how to waste money proving absolutely nothing.

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I don't know where they conduct these 'Vox Pops' or surveys. No one from either Accrington Borough Council or Hyndburn Borough Council has ever asked my opinion on anything at any time over the last forty eight years. The only things I can think of are those weary women that occaisionally hang around places like the Arndale Centre, or those marketing surveys that sometimes come through the post with the rest of the garbage from HBC. Apart from these two instances I can think of no other obvious attempt by HBC to gather information from the electorate.

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Those weary women hanging around the Arndale cenre are usually trying to get people to sign up for mail order catalogues - I've been approached by enough of them, almost as bad as the double glazing phone calls.:mad:

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So how are they conducting these, so called, "surveys"?

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It may be interesting to hold an AccyWeb survey to see how many of us have been approached by HBC to give an opinion on ------------ anything!

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Good idea! ermmm, how do we do that????????

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I've put up a poll in a new thread in the general forum.

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Er' Willow just out of curiosity, DO you have internet access?
:rolleyes:

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Well now let me think. I've got fishing nets and I've got net curtains and I think I even have an old hairnet or two. As they are all in the house I guess they are internal nets and I can reach most of them apart from the hairnets because they are in a high cupboard so I suppose you could say I have internalnet access.

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Well, Still no sign of the fabulous new website that is going to change all our lives and add immeasurably to the fun of living in HBC-land. I begin to suspect that it will not "go live" until a predetermined number have submitted their email addresses. I will leave you to figure out why that might be.

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I hear on the grapevine that the site will have links to other local websites;some of which have not been completed.
Perhaps this is the reason for delay?

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Mayhap Lampman, Mayhap, but how long does it take to insert a link? It's not as though they were a laying course of bricks or waiting for concrete to set!

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Sorry A.B.I should have made it clear it is the sites that aren't completed as yet.
No doubt time will tell.

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Oh, I see, there is a rash of this sort of stuff in the offing is there? I wonder what the other websites might be... sell-hyndburn.co.uk, rip-off-the-electorate.co.uk, welcometo-la-la-land.co.uk ?

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Er,no some are for Charity based groups that still require funding>

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:rofl38: I know just where you're coming from A-b

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Perhaps the money spent on the Survey could have been put to better use funding those charities?
:s_fmad:

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I wonder...........


www.accy.co.uk
www.hyndburn.co.uk
www.accrington.org
www.hyndburn.org
www.accy.info
www.oswaldtwistle.net

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Hey Kipax - you've missed the most important one out:


www.Church.org

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No such site.. I am guessing you didnt click any of the above then :)

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Just now very briefly....I'm not sure what exactly it is you're planning. Sounds like fun. I guess someone like the Pope is cyber squatting on the Church site.....

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Me? there not all mine :)

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Now that is just plain greedy.

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OK I give in... Whats greedy ?

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Here's just a quick thought. What if HBC where to offer To buy this site from Roy I'm sure he would be delighted to sell it to them for say, half what it cost for the survey they commissioned & hey presto! He would be able to take early retirement off the proceeds (not bad for a guy of 27).
Then, they would be able to take on not only the existing moderators on generous Salaries thus negating the need for them to ever have to do any genuine work ever again, BUT within say 1 month they would discover that they would need to double or even triple the number of moderators add in, three managers per moderator (with expenses of course).
This would mean that by Christmas every member of Accyweb would be in secure employment looking forward to a really nice pension @ the end of their short working life, even if Accyweb was to close because no-one was interested.
:smoky: :s_aim1: :cheers:

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Ah but Less you are missing one vital question..................

Would any of us actually want to work for HBC?

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Hyndburn Life (possibly, probably, presumably) nabbing all those domain names.

OK, I know it's the done thing to prevent other people using them. :)

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Willow what you would have to consider is the best Christmas party in the thirty years of HBC'S existence We would create a deficit!
:thumbsup:

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I thought they already had one of those. ;)

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I wouldn't worry about the bill boards for the HBc site around town - I make sure I stay well clear of Accrington town centre (as I'm sure plently of people do) and therefore I will not see any adverts for competition of this site - in fact, come to think of it, if it wasn't for this site I would never have known about it - looks like you need to put in an invoice to HBC for advertising!!!

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I visit various places on the net but in the end we always come back to the places we enjoy most don't we? So as this site has so much variety and so much of interest to the members it's hardly going to be affected by competition is it?

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i love accy web it is brilliant, yes ive gone on other forums, but none im afraid are a patch on accy web

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It's open. Something of a triumph of style over content at the moment, but have a look...

http://www.hyndburnlife.co.uk/roundabout/opencms/

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Thanks A-Bob.

Tried to register with Hyndburn Life...but it don't work. So I've sent them an e-mail asking why and when will I be able to do so. Will keep all informed of the result

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Right....I've registered. The thing is a hoot. On registering, you have to give the CITY you live in.....so Church has just been upgraded. The History bit gives Church has being founded by King Oswald; alas for poor Oswaldtwistle, it was possibly founded by a man called Oswald, who may possibly have been King of Northumbria, or who possibly may not.....anyway, lets see what other rubbish I can find.

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I left them my e-mail address so that they could get in touch when the site is up & running, still waiting to be contacted............(I won't hold my breath).

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Get on the site and click on images on the home page. What do we see? The glories of Broadway? The majesty of Milnshaw Park? The 500 holes on Blackburn Road? The Grandeur of the Town & Market Halls?

No....Batman, Robin & Penguin.

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Tee-hee, that's Doug and Sandra Hoyle our esteemed Crime Czar's. The penguin has still to be identified.

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Penguin = Britcliffe

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How about this typo for starters:

As always, we're looking for your contributions to the site, so if you've anything you'd like to see added to this section, please feek free to email us by clicking here with your suggestions

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.......Feeking Hell!

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Indeed, it's only been open a couple of hours and it looks like it's crashed already.

Three cheers for HBC, Altogether now ........

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Just tried to register and it won't let me, so I got bored and clicked onto tourism instead. As expected there is sod all on this page....

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Yep.....it's definatly down. I doubt if it's from getting too many hits, though.

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It's all the AccyWebbers following A-b's link.

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Hey , it's back again, and I'm already having my first argument!

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Never mind.....we can still be amused by the old HBC site which is still up. After all, if the council wishes to waste council tax payers money on one website, why not on two.......or even three.......

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I've just been accepted as a member with the name accringtonweb.com so if any of you see me over there give me a shout!

:cool:

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So I thought ok silly joke over, went to change user settings & guess what? I can change anything I want real name, address, anything except accringtonweb.com for my user name so, it looks like I'm stuck with it.
:cool:

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Ha, you too! I went in with a silly name and then decided to change it :confused: Still, it doesn't seem to matter, I tried making a post and the page reverted to "guest status" so I couldn't get a word in (edgeways,sideways or any other way:rolleyes: )

I'll have another go later but with no smilies and that awful font, I won't be a regular there for sure! but Roy, they HAVE got a spellcheck hint hint:p

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I've been back in since & re-registered, same me, same address, different user name I was accepted so I've now got two I can make use of depending on my mood.
:p

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You could have one of those Schizophrenic conversations with yourself Less...:D I will try to register later, I just have to think of a good name..

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How about "Lettie" Lettie?:p

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I've just logged in with the name of Machiavelli. I'm going to have some fun living up to that title. :D


Just a thought Lettie... How about signing on with the name Mrs Beelzebub? ;)

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well ive just registered, & really, at the moment i can't comment, apart from the fact that its new & nowt happening yet//

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I keep trying but it keeps kicking me off the site and coming up with a page of computer gobbledeygook. My reputation obviously preceeds me..

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I haven't registered yet. I did give then my email address to let me know when it's open but so far they haven't notified me so maybe I'm not even supposed to know it's there yet.

It's going to be fun trying to remember who we all are over there.

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OOhhh yes i'm in there too!!! hehehehe its gonna be fun!!!

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Well I got there at last. Isn't it exciting? :rolleyes:

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:type: Just been across to the new neighbours again, just to see if they need anything. They must have to get up early in the morning there was no reply, so I assume they've gone to bed, Mind you I suppose they could have just nipped down to the local to introduce themselves. Whatever it is the lights were on but nobody seemed to be home.

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I just tried to answer a post over there and got the message:
You don't have permission to do the requested action.
You might need to login to the system before you can continue.

But then when I tried to log in it tells me my user name is not valid and then shows me as being logged in!

So I try once again to answer the post and get:
You don't have permission to do the requested action.
You might need to login to the system before you can continue.

It's a heck of a lot easier posting here on AccyWeb.

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Well I'm not gonna bother registering - even if you're all having a laugh you are actually supporting the damn thing! It'll be front page of the Observer that it's a roaring success!

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Sorry shortstuff, just got to disagree ;) Hyndburnlife is a great advert for the Accy web! All their members (us) are talking about a better local site called Accringtonweb.com, let them spend the £1000's on advertising.....and we will pick up the new members once they realise that the site they are on is so amateur (and it really is!)

Do your bit for the Accy web ;)

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Good point Short Stuff...if you ignore it long enough it will go away!

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I don't need to ignore it. It's already ignoring me.

But remember it isn't only a message board it also contains amazing gems of information about our area (such as Oswald the Northumbrian)

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I still can't register. It keeps kicking me out. I'd rather be on here anyway but I wanted to be around on the other site when AB gets going. Looks like I will miss the fun..:D

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Just a thought.......If you join and then later are refused access, and have to join again, won't their statistics for membership double? Nice try..I would say! :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

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Yep, it's really in danger of becoming a roaring success isn't it lettie what with not letting me back in and not letting you register. It'll be overrun with members! How come A-b and Tealeaf manage it?

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It's letting me click on and read the discussions but regisration is a pipe dream at the moment.

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Has anyone been over to www.pendlelife.co.uk yet? Looks like they want to take neal on as well. I only found out about this due to mistakes in hyndburnlife's code that revealed it was all copied over from pendlelife. I wish I was the company that got the contracts with the councils to 'design' and implement these state of the art websites.
Oh how I dream of an unlimited, publicly funded budget! :) I wonder if there are any grants that we as a community, northwest website could apply for?

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I checked out "Pendlelife" Roy, and absolutely dead, No threads, No nothing! Dead as a Dodo.........or H.B.C! But as you say, the exact same format!!:D

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If you go to:-


http://www.hyndburnlife.co.uk/rounda...ng_grants.html

It seems they have alot of information & advice for someone setting up for themselves!
:rolleyz8: :s_aim1: :surprise:

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Just had a look at Pendlelife and was amused by the forum for visitors "this is the place to ask all your questions about the area" Maybe it is, but there's no sign that anybody is going to be there to answer.

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Just had a look myself, it does rather seem to be a bit of a "one size fits all" sort of thing. And to think that hyndburnlife and the HBC website are costing us £130,000 this year. How much does it cost to run Accyweb? I would bet that it is nowhere near £130,000. Value for money services - don't make me laugh. HBC wouldn't recognise value for money if it jumped up and offered to buy them an ice-cream!

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No, I think he is just one of the Yobbish fraternity who seem to be genetically incapable of having a discussion without turning it into a confrontation.

I mean..."where is Knuzden?"...puh-leaze!

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Well if it costs so much, maybe they should outsource it...perhaps to Roy? I'm sure he could run it for half the price...There Mr. Britcliffe...instant 50% savings!!!!

Then it could be allied to Accy Web and run properly!

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I thought he might be from Knuzden because at the time he posted that there wasn't a Knuzden forum.

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It is NOWHERE near as good as the Accyweb site......I think it may be funded by some £££££ from the European Social Fund...... maybe you should think about putting in a bid to see if there is any ESF money left.

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For those that thought that Hyndburnlife would be a threat to the Accy web but are unable to "log on," it is an embarrassment to Lancashire/Accrington and yet another display of wasted money by the H.B.C.!! What a waste of (internet)space!

They have a link to the "Victorian Market" in Accy, but decline to make a comment about it!, many other links contain little or no information on the web site! Many options available to "Accy web" users such as "report" "smileys" or "Karma" are totally missing from the site!

Despite using "our" money to advertise the site, I would estimate that no more than 8 people have joined in the forum section, and 6 of those were Accy members waiting to "wind up" the forum!

We have "Mike" who will explain to all that do not yet possess a P.C. how to buy one and what to go for, and how to go "on the net? " Err, Mike, better get on the phone to explain that to people that are not on the net!

Do they have moderators to keep things clean? I don't think so, Do they have a "Roy?" to ensure that the moderators keep to the rules? I don't think so!

This site is so typical of the H.B.C, I would LOVE to hear the report from the person responsible to the H.B.C, as to how the site is doing , WHO is he or she? Await their response as to how £30.000 is spent on a site that is so uninformative!..........?

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£30,000 would be bad enough but it's £130,000 which I find unbelievable.

White elephant?

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that is totally unbelieveble ??? wow , willow,when are they going to learn PLEASE.

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Believe it or not, but it's in the published accounts under "e-government initiatives".

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Oh....Did I miss a "1" out?? :confused:

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Do you really believe that you'll get an honest answer...or any answer?

You've got about as much chance as a snowball in hell Tealeaf!