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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 931748)

What people are saying tends to take on more significance when you read things like this :-

Teachers 'falsifying pupils' marks' to inflate school results - Telegraph

Thanks DaveinGermany, this was pretty much my point... (though I wont falsify marks)

Less, of course I need to be able to spell and count correctly and it is now something that the education system is picking up on after many many years of it being brushed to the side.

The league tables part of my post was simply highlighting a point that as staff we are monitored, judged, and sacked if our gcse results are consistantly not up to scratch. This has caused the movement away from well rounded teaching where teachers teach what each pupil needs and wants. I do believe this is wrong and work as hard as I can to make sure that basics such as literacy and numercy are a major part of each lesson I teach.

Pupils are only taught what they need to be taught to pass the exams but this is changing, as ofsted have changed again what they are looking for in a satisfactory lesson. Schools are now trying to frantically introduce better literacy and numeracy support in every lesson across the school (something which I agree should never have been pushed to the back in the first place).

With regards to the post on marking, as a science teacher I am required to mark books every 6 lessons with one piece in those 6 lessons specifically targetted at literacy. Other schools have other policies and other teachers are not marking books to a good enough standard in many schools. Staff will say this is due to the volume that must be completed in those 6 lessons where as others are just lazy. Again at another school I have worked at I have seen a member of staff sacked for failing to mark correctly.

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 931665)

You were sat in a class & were taught, given the relevant information to use & take on board, it was then down to the individual to assimilate & draw the required information to pass or fail any tests that were set.

Discipline was instilled & used as required by means available & allowed to the teaching staff with the backing of the parents. Disruption & insolence weren't tolerated or accepted, rules were adhered to or the consequences followed & all knew where they stood.

We had winners & losers, those that worked hard usually achieved those who didn't failed, that was quite simply the way life was, if you didn't want to end up on some factory/workshop floor doing low paid labour intensive work, then you bucked your ideas up & knuckled down, it really was that simple. To strive to achieve had a purpose & rewards, but today it appears immaterial, as the state will support you so why make an effort ?

I agree with this, pupils are part of the internet generation and want everything handed to them instantly, they don't want to work to understand the theory or ideas behind anything.

Also I forgot to say about value added. Its just a points system for schools which identifies how much pupils have achieved above their predicted grades. If little Tommy starts school and is predicted a D in his Science gcse when he leaves and I manage to get him a C then this is good for the value added score. Scores over 1000 show schools who are getting better results than expected for their pupils.

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 931657)

I was recently asked to speak to an old lecturer's current students.

She said teaching now was awfully depressing, and she was glad to be retiring this year.

I was told that compared to when she taught me, and was able to nurture creativity and free thinking, her hands were tied by red tape and bureauracy.

It all seemed very sad.

Ya obviously went down hill after the experience with you Rindi:D

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 931753)

I do believe it was DaveinGermany who came up with one of the better descriptions of Canadians ... he said that we are so laid back, we are almost comatose.:alright:

Yep, got to hold my hand up to that one :)