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jaysay 02-10-2012 17:29
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Originally Posted by gynn (Post 1020639)
Just watched his speech, which was lapped up by the party faithful, thereby ensuring he'll be leader at least till after the next election.

The uncomfortable thing for me was that all the ills of the world were laid at the door of two years of Conservative led government. If he had been out of office for a decade, his arguments would have had some credibility.

But this was a man who only two years ago was a Cabinet Minister in a Government that had been in power for 13 years. Why weren't all these wonderful policies introduced then?
Labour have always been a great government in opposition, the problems start when they have to actually stop talking and start doing, which doesn't happen, everything goes tits up.

Margaret Pilkington 02-10-2012 18:25
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Nobody seems to get it.......when in opposition, you have all the great ideas, you can promise wonderful things...it doesn't amount to anything because it isn't going to be put to the test.

The Labour government had 13 years to do all these marvellous things and they didn't do it.......and as for that hypocrite Ed Balls, telling us how to mend the economy.......I don't know where he gets the brass neck...it wouldn't need mending if they had not spent all the money.

kestrelx 02-10-2012 21:15
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Labour have always been a great government in opposition, the problems start when they have to actually stop talking and start doing, which doesn't happen, everything goes tits up.
They got us into this mess anyway - well Brown did! :D

cashman 02-10-2012 21:51
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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1020688)
Nobody seems to get it.......when in opposition, you have all the great ideas, you can promise wonderful things...it doesn't amount to anything because it isn't going to be put to the test..
A wonderful accurate summary.;) The first 5 words in particular.:rolleyes:

kestrelx 02-10-2012 21:59
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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1020688)
Nobody seems to get it.......when in opposition, you have all the great ideas, you can promise wonderful things...it doesn't amount to anything because it isn't going to be put to the test.

The Labour government had 13 years to do all these marvellous things and they didn't do it.......and as for that hypocrite Ed Balls, telling us how to mend the economy.......I don't know where he gets the brass neck...it wouldn't need mending if they had not spent all the money.
Very good points - that's the way our system works, what more can be said? Why do we put up with it. :confused::rolleyes:

Wynonie Harris 02-10-2012 22:57
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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1020671)
Labour have always been a great government in opposition, the problems start when they have to actually stop talking and start doing, which doesn't happen, everything goes tits up.
Change the first word to "politicians" and you're right!

jaysay 03-10-2012 08:24
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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 1020757)
Change the first word to "politicians" and you're right!
I used 1 party because Labour have never made a success of governing this country, but it is hard work always starting from a minus, unlike the incoming Labour government of 97 who inherited the best economic outlook ever record, and when they left office 13 years later they left a dogs breakfast and a note saying there's no money we've spent it all ;)

Less 03-10-2012 08:56
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but it is hard work always starting from a minus, unlike the incoming Labour government of 97 who inherited the best economic outlook ever record, and when they left office 13 years later they left a dogs breakfast and a note saying there's no money we've spent it all ;)
Was that record an old 78 with a scratch?
The reason I ask is you keep playing it at every chance you can but never get past repeating the first couple of lines.
:)

jaysay 03-10-2012 09:18
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Originally Posted by Less (Post 1020789)
Was that record an old 78 with a scratch?
The reason I ask is you keep playing it at every chance you can but never get past repeating the first couple of lines.
:)
The first couple of lines says it all Less:D

Less 03-10-2012 09:22
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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1020791)
The first couple of lines says it all Less:D
Who was this group 'economical outlook' anyway? I've done a google and can't find a reference to anything they've recorded.
:confused:

jaysay 03-10-2012 09:28
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Originally Posted by Less (Post 1020795)
Who was this group 'economical outlook' anyway? I've done a google and can't find a reference to anything they've recorded.
:confused:
How the economic future of the country is looking,;)You stick with me Less I'll educate you to these political terms:D:D

Greeny 03-10-2012 09:33
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Politics is like watching a game .................all the best players are at the side watching.

Less 03-10-2012 09:48
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How the economic future of the country is looking,;)You stick with me Less I'll educate you to these political terms:D:D
You and educate, in the same sentence?

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jaysay 03-10-2012 09:59
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Originally Posted by Less (Post 1020811)
You and educate, in the same sentence?

:rofl38:
Hey Less I could even teach you the knock a nail in straight and get a screw out of a piece of wood when the heads gnarled, stick with me mate I'm good with fiends:D:D:D

Less 03-10-2012 10:34
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Hey Less I could even teach you the knock a nail in straight and get a screw out of a piece of wood when the heads gnarled, stick with me mate I'm good with fiends:D:D:D
Ah a reference to my Dracula past, it's not nails but wooden steaks I can't handle.
http://www.accringtonweb.com/gallery...racula_bat.gif

Lucysgirl 03-10-2012 12:03
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It's been obvious this week from TV interviews that Ed M. has decided to discard his "I'm a quiet reasonable fellow" persona and has been brushing up on how to make himself appear a strong assertive leader. TV pundits expressed their admiration of his no notes speech, but considering he was a lecturer of politics at Harvard he's had plenty of practice.
What surprised me was the variety of different hand signal movements he made but I've come to the conclusion that this is his "make or break" convention and he probably looked up his old uni. philosophy notes to make sure he didn't miss out any positive hand gestures.

Wynonie Harris 03-10-2012 12:55
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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1020777)
I used 1 party because Labour have never made a success of governing this country, but it is hard work always starting from a minus, unlike the incoming Labour government of 97 who inherited the best economic outlook ever record, and when they left office 13 years later they left a dogs breakfast and a note saying there's no money we've spent it all ;)
So, by your theory, if the Tories had been in power continously since the end of the war, everything would be hunky dory, would it? Maybe, but only if you never got sick or fell on hard times because the Tories sure as hell wouldn't have introduced the NHS or the Welfare State (and however much we may malign those institutions today, I'd still rather be with them than without them.). And before you say it, Jay, I think we'd be in an equally bad place, but in different ways, if Labour had been constantly in power since then! ;)

Guinness 03-10-2012 15:50
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You do realise the tories are going to get in next time too... 'what was the question'.....well Duh!!!!

How Much Is Ed Worth? - YouTube

jaysay 03-10-2012 17:06
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Originally Posted by Less (Post 1020822)
Ah a reference to my Dracula past, it's not nails but wooden steaks I can't handle.
http://www.accringtonweb.com/gallery...racula_bat.gif
Mental note made:D

jaysay 03-10-2012 17:11
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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 1020833)
So, by your theory, if the Tories had been in power continously since the end of the war, everything would be hunky dory, would it? Maybe, but only if you never got sick or fell on hard times because the Tories sure as hell wouldn't have introduced the NHS or the Welfare State (and however much we may malign those institutions today, I'd still rather be with them than without them.). And before you say it, Jay, I think we'd be in an equally bad place, but in different ways, if Labour had been constantly in power since then! ;)
No I'm certainly not saying that Wyn far from it, but we may still have a few bars of gold, tucked away, and I certainly believe that we wouldn't have had so much debt as we have now. Looking at it the other way, in what state would this country be in if Labour had been continuously in power since the war:rolleyes:

kestrelx 03-10-2012 21:54
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Ed wants One Nation under Ed Balls! Like the song goes - One Nation under a geek!

Wynonie Harris 03-10-2012 23:37
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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 1020833)
And before you say it, Jay, I think we'd be in an equally bad place, but in different ways, if Labour had been constantly in power since then! ;)
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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1020852)
Looking at it the other way, in what state would this country be in if Labour had been continuously in power since the war:rolleyes:
Gordon Bennett, Jay, I've already said that!!! ;)

jaysay 04-10-2012 09:02
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Gordon Bennett, Jay, I've already said that!!! ;)
I know was just reiterating the fact:rolleyes:


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