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davemac 03-11-2011 19:07

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It's one of those words that we say without realising the correct term
Free bus pass,
Fresh air,
Hoover,
That dress is perfect,
No it doesn't look big,


I'm typing this quietly so I don't get sent to my room.

Margaret Pilkington 03-11-2011 19:23

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You would be perfect in the diplomatic service.:)

Margaret Pilkington 03-11-2011 19:31

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Well, when I worked in the NHS, we questioned our admissions on the length of time they had lived in the UK, if it was less than 12 months we contacted a clerical officer to come and assess their eligibility for treatment on the NHS.
The sad fact was, that those who were not eligible to treatment on the NHS would leave the country before any money could be obtained for their treatment.

davemac 03-11-2011 21:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 944708)
Well, when I worked in the NHS, we questioned our admissions on the length of time they had lived in the UK, if it was less than 12 months we contacted a clerical officer to come and assess their eligibility for treatment on the NHS.
The sad fact was, that those who were not eligible to treatment on the NHS would leave the country before any money could be obtained for their treatment.


It would be easy to bring in a system that ensured health tourists paid for treatment. The problem is that there would have to be the will to carry it out. If you were in America you would have to establish payment details in the treatment room. Here, talking about payment is not british.

Neil 04-11-2011 05:46

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 944658)
....
Yes, that the bus pass is free, is a huge misconception.

Anyone who pays council tax, or pays income tax, or any other kind of levy to the government, is actually paying for the privilege of using their bus pass.....


I think your logic is flawed, I pay all those things but I don't get free travel on buses.

I think if someone took it to court they would have a good case for age discrimination.

I dont disagree with free bus passes for old folk but that is what you get, free travel on buses.

Margaret Pilkington 04-11-2011 06:30

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Neil, I have to disagree with you.
How long have you paid those taxes?
Do you earn a living wage?

I have paid into the system all of my life. Drawn nothing much in the way of benefits(a bit of dole during the three day week......sickness benefit after a major op) other than that nothing.
And the bus pass allows us to travel on the bus without paying a fare at the time of travel, but I assure you I have paid(and am still paying- I am taxed on my pension, and on my small amount of savings) for this travel.

Hopefully Neil, if you live long enough, you will be allowed to reap the benefits of old age. They aren't many and some of them are a bit bitter.

garinda 04-11-2011 06:52

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 944771)
I think your logic is flawed, I pay all those things but I don't get free travel on buses.

I think if someone took it to court they would have a good case for age discrimination.

I dont disagree with free bus passes for old folk but that is what you get, free travel on buses.

You might as well say you could make a case for age discrimination, because you can't draw child benefit for your forty six year old child.

:D

Everyone is entitled to a bus pass, if you're lucky enough to reach pensionable age, after paying tax all your life into the pot that funds it.

jaysay 04-11-2011 09:38

Re: Bus passes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 944708)
Well, when I worked in the NHS, we questioned our admissions on the length of time they had lived in the UK, if it was less than 12 months we contacted a clerical officer to come and assess their eligibility for treatment on the NHS.
The sad fact was, that those who were not eligible to treatment on the NHS would leave the country before any money could be obtained for their treatment.

Margaret, I was once in Q P hospital and an elderly Asian gentleman came in the next bed, he couldn't speak a word of English, when it was doctors rounds his son-in-law came in to interpret, as usual the curtains were drawn round the bed, but you could here every word. The Son-in law said to the doctor, that his father-in-law never really wanted to come to this country until he started being ill:eek::eek:I couldn't believe my ears

Bee 09-11-2011 16:36

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Originally Posted by groove (Post 943554)
Groove thinks its wrong that OAP's get free bus passes whilst the rest of society have to pay...also Groove thinks OAP's should remember that millions are on benefits( many through no fault of their own) yet dont complain about heating bills every winter...What makes them special to everyone else on low income?

Groove get a life :mad: :mad:

shillelagh 09-11-2011 23:21

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so what about disabled bus passes .. should they be got rid of as well ....

garinda 09-11-2011 23:30

Re: Bus passes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shillelagh (Post 946456)
so what about disabled bus passes .. should they be got rid of as well ....

Yes.

There's no such thing as disability.

It's just laziness, or the fact they don't try very hard to do things.

Make them walk.

:rolleyes::D

shillelagh 09-11-2011 23:35

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really? if only you could see me now rindy ..

garinda 10-11-2011 05:26

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Originally Posted by shillelagh (Post 946463)
really? if only you could see me now rindy ..

Stab at humour?

Sarcasm, seeing I'm supposedly disabled too?

You saying that, makes me think you're hurt again?

Really hope not. x

:mad:

Neil 10-11-2011 11:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shillelagh (Post 946456)
so what about disabled bus passes .. should they be got rid of as well ....

I think it depends on why they are issued.

I know a bloke whose girlfriend got a nice new car on disability a few years ago because her doctor said she could only walk short distances, funny how she was doing her pub training so they could run their own pub together. Not much walking involved in running a bar is there :rolleyes:

garinda 10-11-2011 12:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 946510)
I think it depends on why they are issued.

I know a bloke whose girlfriend got a nice new car on disability a few years ago because her doctor said she could only walk short distances, funny how she was doing her pub training so they could run their own pub together. Not much walking involved in running a bar is there :rolleyes:

That's nothing to do with disability benefits.

That's fraud.

No different from defrauding the Inland Revenue, or one of the many other ways people try to cheat the system.

:mad:


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