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kenny 18-11-2011 08:21

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Hiya Michael1954, I'm not ignoring your 'civil' question, You asked "is all this fuss about getting a parking ticket?" I replied "NO" so i am sorry if the reply wasnt good enough,

The only other question from you was about the area in Gt Harwood where you live,
you mention that you wish that some yellow lines on your street should be policed and penalties imposed on "those" who think "they" are above the law and "you" can choose whichever law you like, (suddenly its ME parking on HIS yellow lines)
READ THIS CAREFULLY PLEASE - If people are parking on yellow lines on your street it is probably because the whole damned area is blanket covered with yellow lines and your area is most likely more out of view of the Revenue Officers than say outside the town hall,
You say "I'll just pay the fine and have done with it" What FINE? It's NOT a fine,
you really do need to understand - ITS AN OFFER! ITS A CONTRACT!

In a contract there has to be two signatures the one making the OFFER (revenue officers) and the recipient, You are NOT told that this is an OFFER/CONTRACT by these parasites until its too late and you have contacted them. By contacting them as they want you either by going in in person or sending (big mistake) payment to them YOU have CONTRACTED with them and so you must pay the amount they requested, IT'S NOT A FINE.
It is a STATUTE, a STATUTORY INSTRUMENT. How many times ???

Please read up about these things, its absolutely true.
Heres an example of how these parasites work, EVERY road,side street and back alley in Burnley centre has got yellow lines, you cannot park your car in Burnley town centre UNLESS you use one of the revenue areas (their car parks) for which they demand money.
And you think this is right ?
If you do think its right then carry on!

kenny 18-11-2011 08:35

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So, if i am not in the club then I cant use the club facilities is that your argument ?

This is the trap that everyone falls into, just because WE (because I dont know the answer either) cant think of an alternative, do we have to put up with this modern day highway robbery?
Do you really think that all the taxes in whatever form they take go into the community?

If your answer is in the positive then I give up.

Michael1954 18-11-2011 10:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kenny (Post 949234)
The only other question from you was about the area in Gt Harwood where you live,
you mention that you wish that some yellow lines on your street should be policed and penalties imposed on "those" who think "they" are above the law and "you" can choose whichever law you like, (suddenly its ME parking on HIS yellow lines)
READ THIS CAREFULLY PLEASE - If people are parking on yellow lines on your street it is probably because the whole damned area is blanket covered with yellow lines

You obviously don't know Great Harwood. Within two minutes walk of the street I was referring to, there are two free car parks, and the town is not blanket covered with yellow lines at all.

Michael1954 18-11-2011 10:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael1954 (Post 946205)
The purpose of yellow lines is to allow the free movement of traffic so that everyone can go about their business. If we had a free for all about parking then there would be chaos. The street I mentioned is not policed. If it were, I suspect parking tickets would be issued. Would this be wrong? Would it not act as a deterrent to illegal parking? If the existing system is wrong then what alternatives and solutions would you suggest?

Kenny, if you are going to criticise the current system then you really ought to come up with alternatives and solutions.

Michael1954 18-11-2011 10:38

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When you were taking your driving test, did you raise these issues with the examiner? As a driving licence holder do you not think you should obey the rules of the road? If you can safely run a red light, is that all right? If you drive your car at 70mph in a 30mph area is that OK as long as you don't run over anyone?

Boeing Guy 18-11-2011 14:34

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Kenny,you managed to get all stressed again, yet you did not answer ANY (see I can use capitals as well!!) Questions.

So am I to take it that you don't have any answer?
I am bored with this, if you persist with this I will be forced to ignore you.
Shame really, could have been a good discussion.

garinda 22-11-2011 16:15

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http://www.thechurchofgoogle.org/for...lies/ufo_1.gif

mobertol 22-11-2011 16:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 947627)
Oh dear, you are getting yourself in a right giddy state, aren't you?

Try taking some deep breaths.

In...and out.

That's it.

Breath in...and out.

Out with anger, in with love.

http://www.myemoticons.com/images/pe...e/hippie-1.gif

Sounds harder that giving birth although the breathing does really help...

People get so worked up about parking these days ...a 78 yr old man was killed in a road rage incident yesterday in the center of Cremona - over a parking spot - the guy who ran him down in an Audi SUV killing him instantly was a 72 yr old...it's a crazy world.

Boeing Guy 25-11-2011 11:13

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Lenny, I have no idea why you posted those company numbers, but I am sure you have your reasons.....
The Bank of England has been a private Bank, not government owned since 1694 over 300 years, except for 52 years 1946-1998 when it was nationalised.

Have you bothered to answer my questions yet?
Cheers mate
Bg

Michael1954 25-11-2011 15:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 950689)

I hope you are not thinking of plonking that thing down on double yellow lines, Gary!

garinda 25-11-2011 15:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael1954 (Post 951683)
I hope you are not thinking of plonking that thing down on double yellow lines, Gary!

No need.

Hover a few seconds.

Beam 'em up.

Then return people to their own planets.

Job's a good un, and no nasty fines to pay...to anyone.

kenny 02-12-2011 09:45

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If you get "nicked" for speeding then who decides your "punishment"?
I can tell that you are a blind obedient slave of these corporate parasites who are hiring/renting office space in Magistrates Courts to fleece ordinary decent citizens out of every penny they can, so you carry on being fleeced, and carry on being part of the problem, because the more people they can fleece and con the happier they are.

When was the last time you got (and I'm not suggesting you have) a speeding ticket or a parking fine ?
Tell me - were the jury sworn in ? were you given a suspended sentence ? probation ?
community service ?
were you asked in the court to put your right hand on a bible and "swear to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth" ?
Whats that you say ? you didnt go to court ? you did'nt need to go to court ?
Why not ? I'll tell you why not, because, here I go again, (soz) Parking fines, speeding fines, tv license, council tax, fines for putting cardboard in a plastics only tub for the binmen, smoking a cigarette in a pub, driving down a one way street in the direction that THEY say you cant ? dropping a fag end on the floor, not having a fishing permit, and a lot more believe me! are all STATUTES, dont you understand what STATUTES are ?
Statutes and/or Statutory Instruments only become law by CONSENT, they are a CONTRACT between the PROPOSER ie- the one trying to extort money from you and the intended individual, now, when you get a "ticket" slapped on your car windscreen it is an OFFER, it is the Council, Traffic "Warden", Police "Officer" making an offer to you to CONTRACT, now, IF, you either phone them up, write to them, go into their "place of business" in person or agree with what they demand and pay some of the "fine" then YOU have CONTRACTED with them, IF, you ignore them they will try again to CONTRACT you in the form of a threat that if you do not pay the amount within 7 days then you will have to pay more, if you then reply to this "demand with menaces" because that is what it is, then you are in a CONTRACT with them and you have to fulfill your end of the CONTRACT, and the only way that these "PRIVATE COMPANIES" can be stopped from this thievery is in the form of a simple letter to them, I could type the letter here for you to copy and edit your details in and send to them but I see from your correspondence to date that you already know everything about everybody and you know the law and .....
A few members on here have commented on the fact that if I dont like whats going on then I have to come up with an alternative, well, I'm shocked, do you not realise whats going on ? this corrupt, illegal (under common law) yellow lined, fined if you fart system IS the original allternative, YOU have been using the alternative since the 1920s/30s,

Once again, The law of this land is COMMON LAW as set out in the Magna Carta, Bill of Rights and Rights of Settlement, if you cannot understand these Documents thats not my problem, well it is actually, as long as you keep feeding these THIEVES with money they will get greedier and greedier until you wont be able to even breathe without having to pay "them" for the air we breathe, THESE POLITICIANS, CORPORATIONS, COUNCILLORS, POLICE OFFICERS will NOT tell you about any of this, its up to you as an individual, your choice, COMMON LAW "CAN NOT BE CHANGED BY ANYONE"

Here's a little test for you, COMMON LAW is simple, it always has been and always will be because politicians, local councillors, magistrates, judges, prime ministers and even Kings, Queens, Princes, Princesses AND ESPECIALLY FOREIGN COUNTRIES (I signed your petition some weeks ago) CAN NOT, I repeat CAN NOT change it, interfere with it, meddle with it, OR disobey it without CONSENT of the INDIVIDUAL.
COMMON LAW :-) to keep within the laws of this land you must NOT cause Harm, Injury or Loss to anyone. THATS IT!!! well almost, you cannot go into DISHONOUR, (if you sign a contract with someone (parking services?) once signed, you have to fulfil the contract or go into DISHONOUR which IS a criminal offence under COMMON LAW.

If you do not understand this then I suggest that the sand is well and truly concealing your head. with respect, Kenny of the Nield Family.

Neil 02-12-2011 09:49

Re: Common Law
 
What is and who made and agreed to common law?

kenny 02-12-2011 11:09

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I'm sorry but I have to reply to this person,
Are you totally void of common sense ?
You accuse me of not subscribing to "what the rest of us call government"
Modern Laws ? what are these "modern laws" ?
I totally agree with STATUTES, but Statutes are a CONtract, if I dont like the contract on offer I wont agree or sign, and not you or anybody else will badger me into it.
But what 'your' brain seems unable to grasp (or maybe its a choice) is whats going on so you have to resort to having a dig at me and are trying to undermine what I'm trying to discuss with people.
No I am not a Freeman, I am a human being with a soul,
Taxation and Laws that are NOT common law ?
For a start COMMON LAW IS THE LAW OF THIS LAND,
You can talk about "Modern Laws" till the cows come home THEY ARE ALL CONTRACTS.
ANYTHING OUTSIDE COMMON LAW IS A CONTRACT.
If this CORRUPT TO THE RAFTERS Government put a "fine" on say, kissing in public, would you STOP kissing in public ?
Or, would you say ? "huh! theyre not stopping me from kissing in public!
so I'm going to KEEP kissing in public and pay the fines!
Your problem is that these are the only two options you with your intelligence can see,
But, why dont you instead look at how and why these fines have been introduced and who will benefit from the proceeds,
I'll tell you now that NONE of the proceeds from such a fine will ever, ever go into YOUR club, (remember YOUR street lighting, etc!)
If you agree with a private corporation taking money from you in this way that's your right to do so, but I certainly wont,
Dont try to make me out to be some sort of oddball as I deserve more respect than that as I will respect your opinions too,
Approximately 110,000 of these so called laws have come from the EEC, EU call it whatever you want, and they are NOT legal in this Country, NO OTHER COUNTRY, KING, FOREIGN POWER OR QUEEN shall impose ANY laws on this KINGDOM.
Any person man woman or child enabling/trying to allow this to happen are GUILTY OF TREASON no ifs no buts NO "YOU CANT BE IN OUR CLUB THEN" attitudes can change this, NOT YOU, YOUR CRONIES (if you have any) or the POPE, EVEN OUR QUEEN cannot force FOREIGN LAWS upon her subjects without their INDIVIDUAL CONSENT.
There have been numerous attempts to arrest Tony Blair and his cohorts STRAW etc by a citizens arrest, but Blair changed the law (illegally) so that you CANNOT perform a citizens arrest IF there is a policeman in the vicinity, so now, you would have to catch these people literally with their pants down because I think that the loo is the only place that these war criminals can possibly be alone without special branch putting 6 or 7 bullets into your head (RIP Jean Charles De Menezes).
I am trying my best to educate you a bit here so please dont come back with crass remarks or I'll treat them with the contempt they deserve.

kenny 02-12-2011 11:12

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No Comment, Exept, YOU SUBSIDISE ME ?

I have been paying for the likes of you all my life but NO MORE.

kenny 02-12-2011 11:16

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Argument is it ? I suggest you look at my ORIGINAL question, and I can see you have ZERO knowledge on the subject. perhaps Accyweb can start a club for beginners, you know, start off on Janet and John books and working your way up the ladder of how to respect others and their opinions without resorting to bringing decent people down to your level.

kenny 02-12-2011 11:40

Re: Common Law
 
OK, Why was the driving test introduced in the first place ?

Why do you have to PAY for a Driving License ?

What is a Driving License for ?

OBEY ???????? who the HELL should I OBEY ????

Who has the POWER to make me OBEY ? some CORPORATE ENTITY ?
I OBEY NOBODY because nobody is better than me AND I am no better than ANY other human being,

You might OBEY bucko but NOT ME, I will OBSERVE the rules of the road, and should I make a mistake like driving too fast (who decides the speed?) I will hold my hand up and I will even "confess" to such an horrendous abhorent abuse of the "rules" but PAY MONEY TO A CORPARATE ENTITY with shareholders and profits as their MANTRA ?

NOT A CAT IN HELLS CHANCE,
And as I said to Boeing Guy, If YOU dont have the intelligence to understand (or maybe its a choice) The Magna Carta, Bill of Rights etc! thats not my problem its yours, so dont accuse me of not answering your questions when the answers are there for you to see. Please dont insult me any more, all I ask is that you look at my ORIGINAL question
and if you dont like the question then go and learn about British History, get educated, (get your parents to help you if necessary) and then we might be able to debate this very serious question, dont just try to goad me. With Respect Kenny of the Nield Family, A human being with a soul and a passionate compassion for the ignorant like yourself and the Boeing Guys of this world.

kenny 02-12-2011 11:45

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The "solution" has been with us for 400 years (the sheer ignorance of the law is horrific)

COMMON LAW, get it ???? penny dropped ???? woken up to it yet ???

CAUSE NO HARM,LOSS or INJURY , Have you read ANY of my replies ???

Like I said before, ASK AN ADULT to explain!

kenny 02-12-2011 11:47

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I wish ;0)

Boeing Guy 02-12-2011 12:11

Re: Common Law
 
Kenny mate, you still sound very stressed.

I would try to relax, all this Common Law stuff is not doing yourself any favours.

Neil 02-12-2011 12:33

Re: Common Law
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kenny (Post 953499)
The "solution" has been with us for 400 years (the sheer ignorance of the law is horrific)

COMMON LAW, get it ???? penny dropped ???? woken up to it yet ???

CAUSE NO HARM,LOSS or INJURY , Have you read ANY of my replies ???

Like I said before, ASK AN ADULT to explain!

I am getting bored with you now.
I asked a simple question and you made 6 posts just ranting without making any sense.
Does comman law allow me to ban you?

Less 02-12-2011 12:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 953504)
Does comman law allow me to ban you?

No, but common curtousy says don't use your moderator powers to bully.

Michael1954 02-12-2011 12:45

Re: Common Law
 
All along I have asked civil questions of you, but you seem hell-bent on insulting me and others on this site.

Neil 02-12-2011 12:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael1954 (Post 953506)
All along I have asked civil questions of you, but you seem hell-bent on insulting me and others on this site.

He cant put his point across without waffling that much that no one wants to read it and give up.

kenny 04-12-2011 10:40

Re: Common Law
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 953504)
I am getting bored with you now.
I asked a simple question and you made 6 posts just ranting without making any sense.
Does comman law allow me to ban you?

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I dont know about any "commAn" law!

Look, I dont take kindly to threats, ban? Ooh! you are so powerful I,m quaking in my boots!

All the answers are in my replies but you seem to be above it all.

Next You will be saying Snooker is a Sport!

I just dont understand how one sided you are, you are totally ignorant!

Now I'm definately bored with you, I asked YOU (accywebbers) a civil question "ORIGINALLY"
What did I get in reply ? Questions!
Neil, I can see from your 'replies' that you do not have ANY knowledge of common law and keep banging on about my not answering YOU (must be you I answer to FIRST) because in your little world YOU are the boss here
and if you want to threaten me YOU can because you have the grand title of "moderator"

You havent added ANYTHING to the subject except prove to people that you are typical of the problems people are facing today, Ignorance is NOT a defence,
What I want to know is, WHY HAVE YOU THREATENED TO BAN ME ?

Because I dont know the answers ?

It can only be personal,
I have met people like you throughout my life
You havent a clue of whats going on but you manage to convince people with obviously LIMITED intelligence, Boeing Guy and Michael 1954 being perfect specimens that you are intelligent.
Oh, I dont deny that you can string a sentence together, but, It is totally useless to a man of my intellect.
My original QUESTION was Are people familiar with Common Law ?

YOU have NOT answered my question so are YOU prepared to ban yourself ?
I think Accywebbers need better than this from a conformist like you,
And thats the rub, If you dont like something (because I dont wish to communicate with someone of your ilk) you threaten to ban me!

Well, NEEL, Ban away, but get it right before you do!

You will go into dishonour, dragging this excellent website into it as well,

The law of this land is Common Law NO MATTER WHAT YOU OR YOUR POLITICAL/PERSONAL USELESS OPINIONS ARE!

Ban me? then explain WHY! You have accused me of RANTING,

This is a word very much often used by people with a VERY limited IQ and
it is aimed at insulting someone when YOU do'nt have a clue about the subject,
I will ask YOU NEIL, (now lets just see how you reply to this) a straight forward question that requires a reply that contains "MORE" than an insult, a threat, a ban, or anything straying from the subject, here it is---

Neil, (these are facts) In 1999 Dallas police raided an office in a search for activities linked to CHILD PORNOGRAPHY (PAEDOPHILES)

Now, to cut a long story short, the Dallas police recovered lists of CREDIT CARD transactions, these transactions were for access to child porn websites where even babies were sexually abused and tortured,

There were some 7,500 people from the UK that had been on this this list INCLUDING high profile politicians at the very top of YOUR government,

Now I know who these paedophiles are, but, for fear of people like you threatening to "ban" me I will not put their names on here,
I know who they are AND Tony Blair know exactly who they are,

Do YOU NEIL think its right that the "Peace envoy for the middle east" (Blair) was right in banning EVERY newspaper and TV and RADIO STATION from reporting these facts and these facts alone, citing "national security" ?
Do you NEIL agree with B liar that a "D" NOTICE for 100 years YES 100 years is appropriate on this type of CRIME ?

That is exactly what B liar did, he abused his position of prime minister of this country to slap a 100 year "D" notice to stop the story getting out about his closest buddies and their crimes of CHILD ABUSE!

What "IS" your opinion about this ? I think people would like to know Mr Moderator.
Put it this way, if you NEIL think that B LIAR was right to do this you will use your "POWERS" and ban me, but, IF, you disagree, talk to me about it, it is ALL linked to Common Law, because Common Law would NOT allow this ILLEGAL PROTECTIONISM, as a matter of fact these "politicians" wouldnt be even ALLOWED to stand for ANY office with such a Perverted, Corrupt and Self Serving Criminal record.

I was warned about this website by a few people and just thought I'd ask a civil question, I have NOT received an answer yet, so why not ban everyone else?
I see Michael 1954 and Boeing Guy are still here, why? if your policy requires members to answer EVERY question ?
Please remember Neil, there are members on here that would like to talk about these subjects NO MATTER HOW UNCOMFORTABLE they are,

But then again it depends on people who DO care about there children,
who DO want to know that councillors, mp's and OTHERS who claim to represent us DONT, They DO want to know when Politicians commit GENOCIDE, and before you accuse me of ranting, BLAIR is guilty of a multitude of WAR CRIMES the same as Jack Straw, In his last speech to the house of commons concerning the Iraq "INVASION" (war my arse) Jack Straw (who tried to cover up his brothers criminal behaviour) said,

(read this bit carefully) I vote FOR this action, and I am asking every member to do the same (words to that effect)
But the important point is - he said, Of course there will be innocent women and children killed by us but please vote yes to the "war"

This shows intent, B LIAR and STRAW invaded Iraq went ahead after lying their backsides off and confessing that they were going to kill women and children, it wasnt a "consequence of colatteral damage" it was a WAR CRIME because B LIAR and STRAW knew that what they were going to do was kill women and children (300,000 at the last count)

Hee, B LIAR changed the "citizens arrest" laws so that he and his cronies could escape being prosecuted by The Haigue, You might like this Neil but I dont and I wont,
ALL LINKED TO COMMON LAW

IT JUST WOULD NOT HAPPEN IF PEOPLE GOT A SPINE AND SAID ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!
What would YOU do Neil ? Do YOU think we should let these Child Molesters and War Criminals go without accounting for their actions and be brought to book in a Court De Justi ?
Or are you alright Jack and it doesnt affect you or your morals and a sense of whats right or wrong,
Just looking at what you have posted about this subject (Is anybody aware of Common Law)
I dread to think what your reply will be (if you dont ban me)

Please take note Michael 1954 (should be 1984) Accuse me of being insulting, BUT, it was in retaliation to your CRAP that you asked me, Yellow Lines, Yellow Lines, is that your limit ? I used Yellow Lines as an example, just a quick example thats all! and YOU have been banging ON AND ON about YOUR DAMNED STREET. What the hells wrong with you ?

I would say go back to school and learn about the REAL law of this land (not statutes) but they dont teach this, you dont know anything other than what you've been told, you think you do but you dont,

Go to a library and see if you can get a book on the subject, its almost as if the subject is banned.
You said I didnt answer your dumb questions about YOUR street and YOUR Yellow Lines, well I wont, if you cant work it out by now then good luck (youre going to need it)
Well Neil, I havent got an agenda, I am certainly NOT politically minded, and the ONLY thing I can think of is that to threaten to ban me shows which side YOUR bread is buttered on I look forward to your reply (or ban) Either way Neil its up to you, let me state my opinions, or ban me because you are scared of the reality of what is actually going on,

Heres another quick one (yes I do go on)

Money does not exist (wow)
a POUND is a weight of precious metal
Take a £20 note to the bank of England and try to get this 20 pounds of value from them, they cant do that, they cant give you 20 pounds of ANYTHING, all they can give you is another IOU which is another IOU

Oh, you can get things with these IOUs

BUT YOU CANNOT GET ANYTHING ELSE FROM THE BANK EXCEPT IOUs

You can "BUY" food with this money I hear you say, YES you can if you find a shopkeeper stupid enough to take an IOU for goods.

I'm bored now so I will tell you in finishing this very important message,

Dont try to slag me down, It wont work, please talk about the subject mentioned here and look at the BIG picture of whats going on before you insult me further, I wont reply to selfish people like the 1984 guy because I DONT WANT TO AND IT IS MY get it? MY CHOICE. with all respect to the Staff and Members of Accyweb, I wish you a merry christmas and may all your dreams come true! :ptongue:

DaveinGermany 04-12-2011 10:58

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Someone's a bit miffed it appears. :rolleyes:

Kenny, calm down fella, getting narked & angry will only make thing worse in he long run, chill a little why not.

Less 04-12-2011 11:10

My goodness, Post #125 what an absolute rant.
It really didn't have anything that deserved it to be quoted.
Please do not confuse intelligence with the fact that you can string alot of meaningless words together.
Just one little warning, DO NOT insult the members of this site just because they have upset you,

THAT IS MY JOB!

Boeing Guy 04-12-2011 12:44

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So now we bring accusations about Teflon Tony, IF true then Kenny I am with you, I'll just get my gun.
But regarding the Money issue, I can see you need some help, unfortunately for me, I studied the monetary system in the UK at college, it has been a long time, but I will try.
Once upon a time, we bartered everything, this was all and good except how do you value two chickens?
So people started with Gold and other precious metals, which were great until you were robbed, so banks were started. They would look after your Gold etc and give you a receipt for it, you could then use this receipt to exchange for goods, some one got the idea to make a book of these and before you knew it we had cheque books. With me so far?
The Government print money, in England anyway we will leave Scotland out of this, they used to have the Gold Standard, this meant that you could take your £10.00 note to the old lady of Threadneedle St and exchange it for £10 value of Gold. Of course we don't have the gold standard now so the value of money is down to trust, I trust the shopkeeper I can spend it and he trusts the bank he can bank it etc, if we lose trust then a economy collapses.
Here ends the beginners guide to the Money in the UK.

Actually, I understand you have a choice whether or not to reply to posts, but if you start a debate, don't answer any questions put to you by others, seem to get all uptight with capital letters and rant a bit when you do come on here, guess who looks stupid?
I am afraid you cannot win this debate as long as you show such contempt for the rest of us.

Michael1954 04-12-2011 12:56

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Anyway, getting back to the yellow lines in my DAMNED STREET . . .

Neil 04-12-2011 13:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kenny (Post 953917)
What I want to know is, WHY HAVE YOU THREATENED TO BAN ME ?

You have just proved what I suspected about you.
I did not threaten to ban you, I asked you a question.

Neil 04-12-2011 13:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kenny (Post 953917)
Dont try to slag me down, It wont work, please talk about the subject mentioned here and look at the BIG picture of whats going on before you insult me further, I wont reply to selfish people like the 1984 guy because I DONT WANT TO AND IT IS MY get it? MY CHOICE.

I will debate just about anything with just about anyone but I find myself unable to answer your posts when they are so long, boring and unfriendly. You might get a better response if you keep your posts short and friendly. You can always add more info in a later posts.

Neil 04-12-2011 13:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Boeing Guy (Post 953948)
The Government print money, in England anyway we will leave Scotland out of this, they used to have the Gold Standard, this meant that you could take your £10.00 note to the old lady of Threadneedle St and exchange it for £10 value of Gold. Of course we don't have the gold standard now so the value of money is down to trust, I trust the shopkeeper I can spend it and he trusts the bank he can bank it etc, if we lose trust then a economy collapses.
Here ends the beginners guide to the Money in the UK.

My 10 year old asked me as imple question I could not answer yesterday.

"If the Government have no money why don't they just print some more"

Its not my area of expertise, I just hit machines with hammers and if that does not fix it I get out the laptop and hit it with that.

Michael1954 04-12-2011 13:41

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I quite like the idea of being the 1984 guy. Could one of the moderators please change my user name to Michael1984. It's got a nice ring to it.

Less 04-12-2011 13:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael1954 (Post 953964)
I quite like the idea of being the 1984 guy. Could one of the moderators please change my user name to Michael1984. It's got a nice ring to it.

To be absolutely correct you would have to be Michael1948, when Orwell put the book to his publishers they said that 1948 was too close for comfort, better change the title, the rest as they say is history.

Michael1954 04-12-2011 14:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 953966)
To be absolutely correct you would have to be Michael1948, when Orwell put the book to his publishers they said that 1948 was too close for comfort, better change the title, the rest as they say is history.

As long as they don't call me MichaelAnimalFarm!

Tealeaf 04-12-2011 14:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 953931)
My goodness, Post #125 what an absolute rant.
It really didn't have anything that deserved it to be quoted.
Please do not confuse intelligence with the fact that you can string alot of meaningless words together.
Just one little warning, DO NOT insult the members of this site just because they have upset you,

THAT IS MY JOB!

Rant of the year, IMHO.

Still, it makes more sense than a Graham Jones twitter.

DaveinGermany 04-12-2011 14:15

Re: Common Law
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 953958)
My 10 year old asked me a simple question I could not answer yesterday.

"If the Government have no money why don't they just print some more"

Not my area either but I think it's to do with dilution of the value although the Pounds pretty devalued anyway. As BG said what is written on the bank notes basically equates to the Government issuing an I.O.U./credit note 5,10,20,50 pound notes instead of the equivalent in Gold to the bearer (you with your quids) for their I.O.U./Credit note (Monetary notes). Theoretically the amount of Gold should equate to the Quid note/coins issued to the public, so issuing new notes devalues the worth of the held Gold. I think :o

Tealeaf 04-12-2011 14:23

Re: Common Law
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 953971)
Not my area either but I think it's to do with dilution of the value although the Pounds pretty devalued anyway. As BG said what is written on the bank notes basically equates to the Government issuing an I.O.U./credit note 5,10,20,50 pound notes instead of the equivalent in Gold to the bearer (you with your quids) for their I.O.U./Credit note (Monetary notes). Theoretically the amount of Gold should equate to the Quid note/coins issued to the public, so issuing new notes devalues the worth of the held Gold. I think :o

Not quite, Dave. We ain't been on the gold standard for many years and I doubt if we could ever return to it, not since Gordon Brown flogged off all our precious metal at a bargain basement clearout about 10 years back.

DaveinGermany 04-12-2011 14:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 953975)
Not quite, Dave. We ain't been on the gold standard for many years and I doubt if we could ever return to it, not since Gordon Brown flogged off all our precious metal at a bargain basement clearout about 10 years back.

Aye T, I remember hearing & reading about that & it's quite often mentioned in various threads on here.

Neil 04-12-2011 14:28

Re: Common Law
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 953975)
Not quite, Dave. We ain't been on the gold standard for many years and I doubt if we could ever return to it, not since Gordon Brown flogged off all our precious metal at a bargain basement clearout about 10 years back.

Just think of all the money he saved in security by not having to stop tealeaves stealing it :D

I am always the optimist :rolleyes:

Gordon Booth 04-12-2011 17:41

Re: Common Law
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kenny (Post 953917)

Oh, I dont deny that you can string a sentence together, but, It is totally useless to a man of my intellect.

Yes, I can see what you mean.

davemac 04-12-2011 22:23

Re: Common Law
 
I have followed this thread since the start, yet I have to say I don't have a clue what the original point was or what the solution is.

Or even if we have come to any conclusion, am I being thick ???

Benipete 05-12-2011 08:33

Re: Common Law
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by davemac (Post 954092)
I have followed this thread since the start, yet I have to say I don't have a clue what the original point was or what the solution is.

Or even if we have come to any conclusion, am I being thick ???

I think It was all about a parking fine but I'm as wise or as thick as you are.:confused::D

Still I don't think we are on our own.:alright::D:D

MargaretR 05-12-2011 08:54

Re: Common Law
 
Kenny has not expressed himself very well. He has been adversarial and verbose
If you wish to understand what he is going on about there is plenty on youtube.
The Freeman movement originated in Canada with Robert Menard and its main publicist in UK is John Harris

harris freeman on the land - YouTube
freeman on the land robert menard - YouTube

Boeing Guy 05-12-2011 09:06

Re: Common Law
 
Since Kenny started on this, I have read into this subject.
Unfortunately, after chatting to a friend who teaches Law, it seems that the Freemans argument holds no water.
The Freemans view seems to be if you do not buy car insurance, road fund license or even hold a Driving license you are not agreeing to the Goverments Contract and therefore cannot be prosecuted because of this.
But by driving on tarmacadamed roads, which are owned by the Government you are agreeing to their contract. So your stuffed.
As I said a long time ago, if you use the things that the Government and Councils provide, bin collection, roads that are tarmacadamed, street lighting etc then you are entering into a contract and liable to play the game.
This reminds me of a quote by a friend of mine, "Some scientists say to God, we don't need you, as we can now make man. So off they go and as they start, God says, Hang on you are using my materials, build your own universe"

jaysay 05-12-2011 10:27

Re: Common Law
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by davemac (Post 954092)
I have followed this thread since the start, yet I have to say I don't have a clue what the original point was or what the solution is.

Or even if we have come to any conclusion, am I being thick ???

Na Dave I'm the same, who one person can have so much to say then eventually disappear up his own arse is totally incredible to me, definitely think we have a cabinet minister in the making:rolleyes:

jaysay 05-12-2011 10:34

Re: Common Law
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Boeing Guy (Post 954124)
Since Kenny started on this, I have read into this subject.
Unfortunately, after chatting to a friend who teaches Law, it seems that the Freemans argument holds no water.
The Freemans view seems to be if you do not buy car insurance, road fund license or even hold a Driving license you are not agreeing to the Goverments Contract and therefore cannot be prosecuted because of this.
But by driving on tarmacadamed roads, which are owned by the Government you are agreeing to their contract. So your stuffed.
As I said a long time ago, if you use the things that the Government and Councils provide, bin collection, roads that are tarmacadamed, street lighting etc then you are entering into a contract and liable to play the game.
This reminds me of a quote by a friend of mine, "Some scientists say to God, we don't need you, as we can now make man. So off they go and as they start, God says, Hang on you are using my materials, build your own universe"

Ya BG its definitely the chicken and the egg situation that's for sure, mind you there's always some smart arse that think they have a monopoly on logical thinking as the thread starter has tried to ram down the throats of anybody daring to disagree or take him to task, no doubt this post will warrant another 20,000 word post telling me I'm wrong and he's right;)

Boeing Guy 05-12-2011 12:44

Re: Common Law
 
Me too Jay, let's wait and see

Tealeaf 05-12-2011 13:28

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I wonder if this Kenny joker is the very same 'lifeinthemix' weirdo popping up under yet another guise? His arguments appear to be the same and the structure of his language is very similar. It's him...it's got to be.

cashman 05-12-2011 14:02

Re: Common Law
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 954145)
I wonder if this Kenny joker is the very same 'lifeinthemix' weirdo popping up under yet another guise? His arguments appear to be the same and the structure of his language is very similar. It's him...it's got to be.

No am 90% certain it aint.;)

garinda 05-12-2011 14:19

Re: Common Law
 
I think I've finally worked out what Common Law is.

It's what they give people nowadays, to keep them occupied, instead of making baskets.


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yerself 05-12-2011 17:09

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Have a read at some of the comments on this Telegraph article. Is kenny Lifeinthemix?

Blackburn parents who park on zigzag lines will be handed penalty tickets (From Lancashire Telegraph)

jaysay 05-12-2011 17:42

Re: Common Law
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yerself (Post 954194)
Have a read at some of the comments on this Telegraph article. Is kenny Lifeinthemix?

Blackburn parents who park on zigzag lines will be handed penalty tickets (From Lancashire Telegraph)

Quite interesting, takes my mind back to the happy days when he came on here:rolleyes:;)

kenny 18-12-2011 13:10

Re: Common Law
 
sorry I havent replied to all questions and I'm sorry if I have insulted anyone, but feel free to think that you can give ess aitch one tee and abuse to me and I will just stand there and take it!
I apologise to Neil personally as we go back quite a way, the link being Art and Christine (rest her soul)
But Neil, why do you tell your daughter that the Government prints the money ?
The Government do not print the money, a privatised 'Royal Mint' print the money, so now you know, just tell her the truth.
I am just an ordinary bloke, married for 32 years with 3 lovely children and a loving wife.

I stumbled on all this info accidentally and I was wondering if any of the Accyweb members might be able to shed some light on the subject, so I asked the Question that opened up this public display of ignorance.
For Instance, I now tell you that Brendan Barber the chief of the TUC is a Director on the board of the privatised Bank of England which is absolutely true and is in the public domain,
But now, what will happen is that I will be accused of not answering, being someone else, being thick, being a freeman (never) even suggestions that I am up my own arse.

So what ? you say, I'm alright jack eff you, but thats not the point, Neil telling his Daughter about who prints the money in the uk is a perfect example of not knowing the truth, Its not your fault Neil you can only go on what you have been led to believe.

I would have responded to my question in exactly the same way as other members have.

But I know better now, I'll tell you what I'm trying to get accross/find opinions

The Government have to borrow money from the Private Bank of England to run this country and they have to pay interest on the loan/s to the Private Bank of England.

The Private Bank of England sets the interest rates of this Country.

Their (B of E) first priority is to their shareholders, not you or me or the UK.

The Interest £ is created from thin air by this private bank.

The UK will forever be paying this interest into infinity as it builds up more and more debt that does NOT exist, THAT is why economies all over the world are collapsing, but not quite!
I wont go down this road but, has anyone noticed that the Nations who are NOT involved in this corrupt monetary system ( £ and $ ) ie: Afghanistan, Iraq, Egypt, Libya and others not in the pockets of the West have ALL had a regime change ?
Why ? you figure it out without slagging me off.

It's all about money and power thats all and it needs to be stopped.
Please, dont offend me and I will not offend you, but always remember, I'm not the bad guy here, I'm just looking for answers, to be honest, my world fell apart (not to mention my health) when I found out all this stuff, I could'nt beleive it until I did a simple test,

I deliberately got a parking ticket in Burnley just to put what I had been told to the test, I ignored the demands for money, I think it was about 3 months from getting the notice slapped on my windscreen to the appearance of two Thugs on the doorstep of my home, They had sunglasses on (raining no sunshine) Black Crombies (remember them at the new era) Doc Martin boots and a really threatening manner,
Needless to say, I told them both in no uncertain terms to go away or things were going to escalate beyond their control, ie: eff off or else, and they left, on their run for their car they wrote down the car reg of my neighbour (prob thought it was my car)

I then wrote a letter to the bailiff company (mansons) pointing out that a so called parking fine was a contract (a statute) requiring me to "contRact" with the thieves who defaced my car windscreen, (Lancashire Parking Services) and furthermore, they (mansons) are a third party and have NO powers whatsoever to interfere in a contract between Lancashire Parking Services and myself, so sod off!

I received a letter from these bailiffs just two days later (I can stick a copy on here if you like) stating that they understand and are returning ALL the details back to Lancashire Parking Services. THE END!

I can assure all Accyweb members that I was gutted, I just could'nt believe it, I did a lot of further research and am still doing so and the more I find out the more sick I feel,
I'm not a nutter or weirdo I'm just trying to find things out thats all.
To the staff and ALL members of an excellent Accyweb, have a very merry christmas and may all your dreams come true.
From Kenny an Accy Lad through and through, I'll answer ANY questions on the subject that I posted to the best of my ability from now on.

groove 18-12-2011 13:46

Re: Common Law
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kenny (Post 956703)
sorry I havent replied to all questions and I'm sorry if I have insulted anyone, but feel free to think that you can give ess aitch one tee and abuse to me and I will just stand there and take it!
I apologise to Neil personally as we go back quite a way, the link being Art and Christine (rest her soul)
But Neil, why do you tell your daughter that the Government prints the money ?
The Government do not print the money, a privatised 'Royal Mint' print the money, so now you know, just tell her the truth.
I am just an ordinary bloke, married for 32 years with 3 lovely children and a loving wife.

I stumbled on all this info accidentally and I was wondering if any of the Accyweb members might be able to shed some light on the subject, so I asked the Question that opened up this public display of ignorance.
For Instance, I now tell you that Brendan Barber the chief of the TUC is a Director on the board of the privatised Bank of England which is absolutely true and is in the public domain,
But now, what will happen is that I will be accused of not answering, being someone else, being thick, being a freeman (never) even suggestions that I am up my own arse.

So what ? you say, I'm alright jack eff you, but thats not the point, Neil telling his Daughter about who prints the money in the uk is a perfect example of not knowing the truth, Its not your fault Neil you can only go on what you have been led to believe.

I would have responded to my question in exactly the same way as other members have.

But I know better now, I'll tell you what I'm trying to get accross/find opinions

The Government have to borrow money from the Private Bank of England to run this country and they have to pay interest on the loan/s to the Private Bank of England.

The Private Bank of England sets the interest rates of this Country.

Their (B of E) first priority is to their shareholders, not you or me or the UK.

The Interest £ is created from thin air by this private bank.

The UK will forever be paying this interest into infinity as it builds up more and more debt that does NOT exist, THAT is why economies all over the world are collapsing, but not quite!
I wont go down this road but, has anyone noticed that the Nations who are NOT involved in this corrupt monetary system ( £ and $ ) ie: Afghanistan, Iraq, Egypt, Libya and others not in the pockets of the West have ALL had a regime change ?
Why ? you figure it out without slagging me off.

It's all about money and power thats all and it needs to be stopped.
Please, dont offend me and I will not offend you, but always remember, I'm not the bad guy here, I'm just looking for answers, to be honest, my world fell apart (not to mention my health) when I found out all this stuff, I could'nt beleive it until I did a simple test,

I deliberately got a parking ticket in Burnley just to put what I had been told to the test, I ignored the demands for money, I think it was about 3 months from getting the notice slapped on my windscreen to the appearance of two Thugs on the doorstep of my home, They had sunglasses on (raining no sunshine) Black Crombies (remember them at the new era) Doc Martin boots and a really threatening manner,
Needless to say, I told them both in no uncertain terms to go away or things were going to escalate beyond their control, ie: eff off or else, and they left, on their run for their car they wrote down the car reg of my neighbour (prob thought it was my car)

I then wrote a letter to the bailiff company (mansons) pointing out that a so called parking fine was a contract (a statute) requiring me to "contRact" with the thieves who defaced my car windscreen, (Lancashire Parking Services) and furthermore, they (mansons) are a third party and have NO powers whatsoever to interfere in a contract between Lancashire Parking Services and myself, so sod off!

I received a letter from these bailiffs just two days later (I can stick a copy on here if you like) stating that they understand and are returning ALL the details back to Lancashire Parking Services. THE END!

I can assure all Accyweb members that I was gutted, I just could'nt believe it, I did a lot of further research and am still doing so and the more I find out the more sick I feel,
I'm not a nutter or weirdo I'm just trying to find things out thats all.
To the staff and ALL members of an excellent Accyweb, have a very merry christmas and may all your dreams come true.
From Kenny an Accy Lad through and through, I'll answer ANY questions on the subject that I posted to the best of my ability from now on.

Groove thinks this post is a refreshing change to the usual guff posted on here. Well done Mr.Kenny, Groove hopes to see more of these rants in future.

Michael1954 18-12-2011 14:23

Re: Common Law
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by groove (Post 956712)
Groove thinks this post is a refreshing change to the usual guff posted on here. Well done Mr.Kenny, Groove hopes to see more of these rants in future.

Ouch! Don't mention the word rants!

Neil 18-12-2011 14:46

Re: Common Law
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kenny (Post 956703)
I apologise to Neil personally as we go back quite a way, the link being Art and Christine (rest her soul)

I am sorry but I can't remember who your are, which is not surprising because my memory is terrible :(

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenny (Post 956703)
I'm not a nutter or weirdo I'm just trying to find things out thats all.
To the staff and ALL members of an excellent Accyweb, have a very merry christmas and may all your dreams come true.

I am a weirdo :rolleyes:, a very merry christmas to you and yours as well :D

Michael1954 18-12-2011 16:14

Re: Common Law
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by groove (Post 956712)
Groove thinks this post is a refreshing change to the usual guff posted on here. Well done Mr.Kenny, Groove hopes to see more of these rants in future.

The usual guff posted on here? You're being a bit hard on yourself, Groove. :-)

garinda 18-12-2011 16:23

Re: Common Law
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kenny (Post 956703)
To the staff and ALL members of an excellent Accyweb, have a very merry christmas and may all your dreams come true.

I do not acknowledge the contract, offering your seasonal greetings.

I have the right under common law to decline your offer.

wallop79 12-03-2012 10:33

Re: Common Law
 
Just had my appeal this morning & judge (who was a solicitor) agreed that there was no proper markings etc to differentiate between the two separate car parks, so I won, now today had cost me in petrol to Manchester & back, £33 to put little one in nursery for an extra day, £4.50 car parking, so its probably cost me the price of the ticket, but its not the money its the principle which is what I told the judge. Just thought you'd like to know that it is with appealing.

jaysay 12-03-2012 18:13

Re: Common Law
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wallop79 (Post 977159)
Just had my appeal this morning & judge (who was a solicitor) agreed that there was no proper markings etc to differentiate between the two separate car parks, so I won, now today had cost me in petrol to Manchester & back, £33 to put little one in nursery for an extra day, £4.50 car parking, so its probably cost me the price of the ticket, but its not the money its the principle which is what I told the judge. Just thought you'd like to know that it is with appealing.

Score one for the good guys wallop http://cdn.content.sweetim.com/sim/c...s/00020408.gif


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