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g jones

05-11-2011 08:55

EdM's speech a defining moment

I criticised the journalists who wrote down EdMs conference speech as missing the point. A point that Philip Blond did not miss at Tory HQ. in short people are turning away from casino capitalism and a something for nothing culture.

This week Cameron and Co jumped on board to EdMs views about promoting proper companies and not promoting greedy or predator companies. A new economic direction.

PM TO EMBRACE 'MORAL MARKETS'
David Cameron is to stress the need for more "moral markets" in an attempt to avoid political fallout from the ongoing protests outside St Paul's Cathedral. The Prime Minister - borrowing the phrase from a speech that David Miliband would have given had he won the Labour leadership - is looking to reclaim the "responsible business" agenda and Ed Miliband's comments that the Conservatives concentrate on helping the "wealthiest one percent of society". His stance has been echoed by Culture Secretary Jeremy Hunt, who told The Times that the Government must look at ways of creating a "kinder, gentler capitalism".
News*|*The Times* Cameron hopes ‘moral markets’ will help to capture protest spirit
Opinion*|*Jeremy Hunt interview*|*The Times*| ‘Sport isn’t just about winning but failing too and fighting back’

jaysay

05-11-2011 09:05

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Originally Posted by g jones (Post 945085)

Looks like somebody has lots of time on their hands;)

Taggy

05-11-2011 09:39

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Isn't it time that Politicians started to realise that the public are no longer swallowing all these weasel words...its what they do that matters not what they say, Cameron may be saying that, but does anyone honestly think he actually intends to do anything concrete about it? Also what specific actions has Milliband advocated to make this happen? Its just all pee & wind to be honest!

Best Regards - Taggy

Tealeaf

05-11-2011 11:08

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Whats new? Maybe Graham should get out his politics history book and check out the chapter on the 1970's when the Tory leader Heath remarked on the '...unacceptable face of capitalism'. Nowts changed over the last forty years.

cashman

05-11-2011 11:29

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Who is it a defining moment to? :confused: apart from the blind who think the guy is the messiah, many i speak to,don't really give a toss what any of em say.:rolleyes:

Tealeaf

05-11-2011 12:01

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 945134)

Who is it a defining moment to? :confused: apart from the blind who think the guy is the messiah, many i speak to,don't really give a toss what any of em say.:rolleyes:

There's not much difference between the political parties and the big retail chains - for ASDA, Tesco and Morrisons, read Tories, labour and Lib-Dems. Both lots are cosy little cartels which have the market sawn up between them and by virtue of their dominance, keep the competition out. Their colours may be distinct and their slogans may differ, but you get ripped off with the same old crap from them all.

Vote UKIP - you know it makes sense.

jaysay

05-11-2011 14:06

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Originally Posted by g jones (Post 945085)

I criticised the journalists who wrote down EdMs conference speech as missing the point. A point that Philip Blond did not miss at Tory HQ. in short people are turning away from casino capitalism and a something for nothing culture.

This week Cameron and Co jumped on board to EdMs views about promoting proper companies and not promoting greedy or predator companies. A new economic direction.

PM TO EMBRACE 'MORAL MARKETS'
David Cameron is to stress the need for more "moral markets" in an attempt to avoid political fallout from the ongoing protests outside St Paul's Cathedral. The Prime Minister - borrowing the phrase from a speech that David Miliband would have given had he won the Labour leadership - is looking to reclaim the "responsible business" agenda and Ed Miliband comments that the Conservatives concentrate on helping the "wealthiest one percent of society". His stance has been echoed by Culture Secretary Jeremy Hunt, who told The Times that the Government must look at ways of creating a "kinder, gentler capitalism".
News*|*The Times* Cameron hopes ‘moral markets’ will help to capture protest spirit
Opinion*|*Jeremy Hunt interview*|*The Times*| ‘Sport isn't just about winning but failing too and fighting back’

To be quite honest Graham I don't think 99% of the public give a monkeys what Miliband and Cameron have to say, but there are those who are interested in what the person who represents us at Westminster is saying and doing on our behalf, which at the moment seems to be very little, if the happenings of late have been anything to go by, its surprising how people can go from hero to zero in no time at all, so if I were you I would refrain from the political platitudes and concentrate on what really matters to the people who use this site, how your actions in London are having effects on there lives, they sure as hell don't give a toss what games the political grandees are up too and even less on what they are whining on about :(

DaveinGermany

05-11-2011 14:59

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Originally Posted by g jones (Post 945085)

PM TO EMBRACE 'MORAL MARKETS'
David Cameron is to stress the need for more "moral markets" in an attempt to avoid political fallout from the ongoing protests outside St Paul's Cathedral. The Prime Minister - borrowing the phrase from a speech that David Miliband would have given had he won the Labour leadership

How very ironic. Politicians having the brass neck to spout forth about morals & obligations. Stones & glass houses spring to mind.

Margaret Pilkington

05-11-2011 15:17

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Son, I was just about to say the very same thing.

It is time that the leaders of all political parties....and MP's too, realised that the electorate have become very disillusioned with the world of politics....a world where they tell us one thing but do something entirely different.....that we no longer have faith in the people who we pay to promote our interests, preferring to pursue their own agendas...line their own pockets....stab democracy in the back.
And to Graham, I am surprised that you have the chutzpah/audacity to post this.

I never thought you would lose touch with your roots and the local electorate so readily....but then, even Jesus was betrayed for 30 pieces of silver.
As MargaretR was astute enough to post....maybe our expectations were just too high.

garinda

05-11-2011 16:56

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Can't claim this particular question is something I'll be losing too much sleep over.

The question everyone's simply clamouring to hear answered is this...

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 943536)

You rendered any reasoned debate invalid, when you voted that people don't have a right to vote in a referendum, and decide for themselves whether they want European Union membership, or not.

I'll ask again.

Why did you clearly state on this forum just over two weeks ago, that you have no problem with a referendum, mentioning democracy in that same post, then vote against it, denying people that democratic right?

We'll keep asking this, until you supply a satisfactory answer, regarding this contradiction.

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...g-59650-7.html

Perhaps if you'd do your constituents the honour of answering this Graham, we could come back to this other pressing issue a little later?

garinda

05-11-2011 17:25

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 945134)

Who is it a defining moment to? :confused: apart from the blind who think the guy is the messiah, many i speak to,don't really give a toss what any of em say.:rolleyes:

Cashy, remember in times past, when Accy Web was often criticised for being peopled by a load of Labour supporting activists, and any opposition was quickly quashed?

Doesn't time fly?

Shows how things can apparently change so much, in just a few years.

:rolleyes:

:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

garinda

05-11-2011 17:28

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Originally Posted by g jones (Post 945085)

EdM

Who the frig's that?

garinda

05-11-2011 17:34

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Originally Posted by g jones (Post 945085)

EdM

You'll have to drop all your fancy talk on here, if you want people to listen to you.

It's not some swanky dinner party in Islington.

We're honest to goodness, straight talking, simple folk up here.

You seem to have forgotten.

Tealeaf

05-11-2011 17:35

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It's a simple truism that any elected representative has to be held to account by his or her electorate; that applies to Graham Jones and to Ken Moss and to anyone else in an elected position who posts on here. If Graham's answer and defence is to post this sort of ludicrous garbage then I'm afraid his name will be held in more contempt than it already is.

Tealeaf

05-11-2011 17:40

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I've just had another thought.

Given that there are two hundred and odd Labour MP's and that many of them will be using local forums such as this, I wonder if there has been a directive from Leader Millibands office to the effect that all Labour MP's should post this rubbish this weekend?

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