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A interesting read for anyone who is interested in the exposure to wireless radiation.

Telecom Company?s Patent Admits: Non-Thermal Exposures To Wireless Radiation Is ?Genotoxic?, Causes ?Clear Damage to Hereditary Material? « Stop Smart Meters! (UK)

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You went for an unbiased opinion? Not one where the propaganda would suit the websites wishes?

Of course you did.
:rolleyes:

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I doubt that you ever read the unbiased opinion in the link I provided
http://www.mcs-aware.org/images/reso...ining%20ES.pdf

- a medical practitioner with no vested interest other than the health of his patients

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Of course he won't m :D

Based upon our nation’s experience with other industries like "tobacco and asbestos", the Wireless Industry will likely delay taking action to reduce harm until it is faced with product liability settlements. Unfortunately, it may take a while before such cases are successful since the Industry has co-opted many scientists, and the scientific literature has mixed findings that enable industry experts to confuse the courts ;)

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I stopped opening her links when she put absolute proof that microwave ovens could kill. Some fancy professor she claimed that knew everything.
The only death reported in the link was after a nurse mistakenly heated blood for a transfusion in the oven. Hardly the microwaves fault if it's used incorrectly is it?
All electronic devices can be used incorrectly and if repaired incorrectly by a non competent person can become lethal.
Cowboys, even cowboy posters should be treated with disdain.

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Get a small neon bulb, stick it on the end of a non-conductive rod and hold the lamp close to whatever appliance you are concerned about - this is a quick and simple check for electronic radiation, and when compared against the results from a calibrated instrument was reasonably accurate.
If the lamp glows you have a problem with that appliance - if it glows brightly you have a serious problem with that appliance or fixture.

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What if...


...like this bloke instead of the neon glowing you do?:eek:

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Then you are toast:).

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One of the next things in the pipeline is for us all to have smart bracelets which enable us to get on trains and buses without buying tickets by cash or credit card etc - well just have a bracelet linked to computer system and pay one lump sum in advance etc. So as you walk past a censor, on a barrier, to get on the bus your bracelet will be scanned to see if you've paid up front for a ticket Already buses in London have stopped allowing any payments by cash, passengers have to have a card which you top up in shops and or use credit card, or a ticket bought from a newsagent or specified shop. Big Brother is on his way and you can't do nothing about it!

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Nope...won't be having one of those either.

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Not in your life time, but probably in the future everyone will have to have one - everyone will have been brought up with technology and won't know anything different - when the "older generation" are no longer wanting to pay by pennies. Except from heaven that is...

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You are probably right.....so I am glad I am at the bum end of my existence.
Don't get me wrong I quite like technology......I am(for my age) quite computer literate.
But all these innovations are fine if they don't break down...you only need to have a 'glitch' like the ones which have affected some of the banks(and eBay as recently as Sunday) in the not so distant past....and you are stranded.
These new fangled things also have the power to track your movements...fine if you want to be under even more surveillance than we currently are.
Also how long will it be before the criminal element have found some way to wipe the cash off your wristband or just steal it from you.
Who does it make life easier for...and how do those who promote these things make money from their use?

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Don't need a bulb, a wet finger suffices

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But... they can.

Or at least, they would really mess you up if you were at ground level and someone dropped one off the Arndale onto you. :D

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by the time it got past the 3rd level it would get nicked and weiged in :D

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He hasn't done a search of my posts to show and prove I said that - I didn't.
It is just another way he tries to provoke anger in people he disagrees with. (poor sod )

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No I haven't done a search through your trash, nor am I going to.
You put that link on I have no need to lie and unless you have forgotten or are deliberately avoiding the truth you know that you did.
If you get angry with the truth that is your problem, I don't need you angry, if you are angry tough.

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Apparently smart phones are so easy to bug and hack and probably someone is listening in and/or reading your messages without you knowing it!

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I don't care, so are land line phones. Anyone sad enough to listen to my phone conversations is welcome to

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We have a smart meter,no problem.No difference. Waste of money.Just does away with meter readers jobs.Another blow to the working people.

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Of course they don't save money for you....the only people who benefit are the energy companies.
Why would they want to give you something which reduced the money going into their accounts?

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Do they show you what you are using at that moment and what the cost is like the energy monitor do? If so they can help you save money by awareness of what taking a shower costs or putting the electric fire on etc

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I`ve just got myself one of these - 13A Plug In Energy Saving Monitor | Maplin slowly working my way around the house seeing how much things cost. Dishwasher (eco setting) - 14p/cycle, fridge freezer 24p/day (I was surprised at how much that cost), washing machine 11KG load at 60 deg 14p.

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They should name it the paranoia plug :D

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Why? If it saves money then surely it`s a good thing. It`s shown the Mrs that the Eco setting is the cheapest option on the dishwasher (should be obvious, but not to her), I`ll turn the fridge freezer from 4 to 2 to see how much that saves, i`m sure there will be more savings to be had.
I know someone who just this weekend borrowed a monitor because their bill was so high in their new house, using 10KW overnight when everything off except fridge freezer, turns out there was an immersion heater on they didn`t even know they had.:rolleyes: Now turned off, big saving.

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the cheapest option is........don't have a dishwasher.
I have never longed for one of these things......and when visiting rellies in Oz they couldn't understand why washing up by hand was my choice.

I know that there are some dishwashers which are supposed to be cheaper than a bowlful of sudsy water...but I have yet to be convinced.

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My dishwasher is irreplaceable, I hate standing at a sink to wash dishes, I'd end up using paper plates and plastic cutlery, which would all end up in landfill or even worse I would have to install one of those female thingys that used to be chained to the kitchen sink during my growing years.

Yuk! I'm not going back to the bad old days.
:hidewall:

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I can understand you choosing a dishwasher over a female companion, but personally for me.......I wouldn't ever have one...like a wife for you has no attraction...I feel exactly the same about a dishwasher.

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I can live with 14p for a full load, I was expecting it to cost more. I suppose you`re paying for the convenience, it would probably be cheaper to wash clothes by hand instead of using the washing machine but that isn`t going to happen either

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No, I wouldn't wash clothes by hand........but pots, well that is another matter.

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We can have quite a busy house at times, especially at weekends so a few modern conveniences to make life a little easier isn`t a lot to ask. I know they aren`t for everyone, but suits us.

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I don't have that problem, for about the last 10 years if I switch the immersion heater on it trips the breaker.

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Another job on the 'to do' list.
:D

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you could put your clothes in a dishwasher with the plates

dont do it the other way around though it dosnt end well using a washing machine

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No, I couldn't do that.
My dishwasher is a 1943 model......it is noisy when running(rumbles and grumbles a lot), gives off a lot of steam and you can't get any spare parts for it.(rarer than hen's teeth)
I suppose it could be classed as an antique really.

I have a friend who cooks salmon in her dishwasher!

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I agree, Margaret. I'm not interested in a dishwasher at all. By the time it takes to load one (never mind the unpacking of the washed stuff afterwards, etc.) I can get the dishes washed, dried and put away. I can stand very hot water (no sense, no feeling, applies!) so it's all very hygienically clean, no benefit of a machine there either.

Less, as for your dishwasher being irreplaceable, I keep telling my other half that his is...though he does threaten at times to trade it in on a younger model...and good luck with that!

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IF my dishwasher breaks down and I cannot repair it immediately, er indoors has warned me that we will be buying a new one within 24 hrs.

Having a large family who all eat meals at different times of the day, and a small sink area makes it so much easier on her to simply fill the dishwasher and put it on overnight.

I do agree too, seeing as she is busy with all the housework, cooking, cleaning, ironing, walking the dog etc. :hehetable: s_aim1:

Not having one nearly cost me a divorce once...

But we have digressed...

I have had my meter changed and we are not in a smart meter area yet, when they become compulsory As far as I know they will not be compulsory for all.

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Ours packed in a couple of weeks ago, you`d have thought someone had kidnapped the dog and posted us it`s ear with all the face pulling going on.

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It's been on the to do list for years. Never use it so it's bottom of the list of jobs I have forgotten about.

Top of my current to do list is taking a Stihl saw to the CCTV camera in the park because I think it's causing me radio interference.

Unless of cause it's a smart meter one of my neighbours has that's causing the interference.

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Why is it 'her' job? ;)

If you are forced to have one, wrapping it in tin foil and connecting to earth should stop it working.

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Fixed that for you. ;)

I'd welcome a working smart meter if it prevented the need to be in for a visual meter reading. That said, I wouldn't want it to get in the way of the wifi or the electricity monitor.

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When we moved last year I and I set up the energy supplier for the new house I was told I could have a discount if I provided my own meter readings. No problem I thought and I've duly e mailed them each quarter. About a fortnight after each one somebody's turned up to read the meter. I keep asking why but each time they just tell me they've got to do it.

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We moved 12 months ago n i e-mail the readings to provider, have never once seen a meter reader.