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accyman

17-11-2011 13:28

If there was a snap election tomorrow

who would you vote for ?

this poll is anonnymous

Margaret Pilkington

17-11-2011 13:42

Re: If there was a snap election tomorrow

I'm not sure who I would vote for...it would depend a lot on what they were promising to do.
I might just not vote at all........they all seem to be a shower of sh....manure.
I certainly would not be voting for any of the main three political parties.

accyman

17-11-2011 13:49

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I think the MP's want and enjoy us disillusioned and not wanting to bother voting.Either way win or loose they still have a job with a very tidy wage tied to it.

As soon as you get elected as an MP you are set for life.I bet their pensions are never under threat ;)

garinda

17-11-2011 14:00

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I'll be voting for UKIP, as much as that suprises me, to say that.

They most reflect what most concerns me.

Our continued membership of the E.U. affects every aspect of our lives, and blights the future stability, and prosperity of this country.

None of the other mainstream parties are willing to let ordinary people have a right to have a say in their future, and decide for themselves if they want to be part of an organisation they've never voted to be a member of.

That is undemocratic.

Therefore the only way to positively use my vote, is by giving it to the United Kingdom Independence Party.

I feel I have no other choice.

I shall be actively campaigning that others, who perhaps feel similarly as unrepresented by Labour, the Conservatives, and the Liberal Democrats, do the same.

cashman

17-11-2011 14:03

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Have voted ukip, much as it goes against the grain, if enough people did that am near certain it would enforce a change of stance fer some of the big3.

garinda

17-11-2011 14:23

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 949042)

Have voted ukip, much as it goes against the grain, if enough people did that am near certain it would enforce a change of stance fer some of the big3.

One things for certain, I'm voting for the party, not the person next time.

After how I feel the people of Hyndburn have been shamefully let down, by Graham Jones publicly stating he had no problem with a 'democratic' referendum, and two weeks later voted that we weren't to be allowed to have that democratic right.

Everyone I know must be in Graham Jones '95% of people don't give a toss about Europe', apparently.

Although unlike the bubble Graham Jones lives in, it's becoming breathing room only in mine.

garinda

17-11-2011 15:08

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garinda

17-11-2011 15:18

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 949055)

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...row-38729.html

Oh this old one is of those non-anonymous polls, you can click on, and see who voted for what.

I was just being nosey, to check if it was the one a load of students from somehere near Hull joined up for, in order to vote in, before disappearing forever.

It isn't.

:D

gynn	17-11-2011 15:44

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So if I vote UKIP I know their policy is to leave the EU.

Ok. And what is their policy on university tuition fees? the banking crisis? education cuts? the health service? defence spending? the environment.............etc etc etc.

They aren't a relevant party. They are a protest group.

If there was an election tomorrow, I'd give Cameron more time to do what he's started. Not because I'm a Conservative, but because he needs more than 18 months to finish the job he's taken onboard.

garinda

17-11-2011 16:03

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Originally Posted by gynn (Post 949060)

They aren't a relevant party. They are a protest group.

They are relevant to myself, and it seems others, because they best reflect my own views, more so than any other political party.

My vote is a protest vote.

I feel unrepresented by any of the other parties.

It isn't likey they will form the next government.

However they do have policies, just as the other political parties do, if a UKIP candidate was returned as an M.P. in a constituency.

UKIP Policies - UK Independence Party

claytonx

17-11-2011 16:33

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Voted UKIP last and will vote that again. I can't bring myself to vote any other way after all there unkept promises.

accyman

17-11-2011 16:35

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read a bit more into UKIP's policies and they are a lot more straight forward than teh other three main partys.Also none of teh main 3 partys ever stick to what they put anyway so their policies are not warth the paper they are written on.

Even if they only did 1 year in power and got us out of the EU id be happy as long as teh next lot in didnt sign us back up to it

claytonx

17-11-2011 17:42

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Originally Posted by accyman (Post 949074)

accyman thats what I was trying to say.

jaysay

17-11-2011 17:43

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Originally Posted by gynn (Post 949060)

That's what I think too gynn, UKIP are a one trick pony, okay they correct result could be achieved on Europe but the country would be in a worse state than after 13 years of Labour

jaysay

17-11-2011 17:45

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I would probably revert to voting Tory again, depending on who the candidate was, certainly wouldn't be voting for a bint from St Annes:rolleyes:

Less	17-11-2011 17:49

Let's be honest, we all feel let down, be it Graham with his U turn on a referendum, or our glorious, 'we'll make a difference', bits of bullshine from certain Councillors, THEY DID WHAT? THEY VOTED US IN FAVOUR OF INTERNATIONAL BULL THAT'S WHAT!
I can't wait for our smart arse Councillor to come on and explain this one away, before election time couldn't get rid of him, now obviously he just doesn't care less.

cashman

17-11-2011 18:17

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 949089)

That's what I think too gynn, UKIP are a one trick pony, okay they correct result could be achieved on Europe but the country would be in a worse state than after 13 years of Labour

Thats exactly the reason the big 3 will never change,:rolleyes: i agree they are likely a one trick pony, but anyone wi a grain of common knows they will never get in,but if enough happen to vote fer em, it may well compel one of the main parties to change tack, but lets carry on the way things are n nowt will change, sometimes mate i think i credit yeh wi more sense than yeh got.:rolleyes:

jaysay

17-11-2011 18:19

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 949093)

I did say that is what would happen well before the election, being a critic is easy, explaining your actions takes bottle, seems they haven't got any

Less	17-11-2011 18:39

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 949109)

I did say that is what would happen well before the election, being a critic is easy, explaining your actions takes bottle, seems they haven't got any

No you didn't, if you had mentioned that Graham would do a U turn or that the whole of the Council would support some backward regime, I think I would have remembered.

Wynonie Harris

17-11-2011 18:40

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 949089)

That's what I think too gynn, UKIP are a one trick pony, okay they correct result could be achieved on Europe but the country would be in a worse state than after 13 years of Labour

Let's be honest, the chance of any political party going from no sitting MPs to enough to form a government in one election is about as likely as Stanley getting in the premier league.

The who point of voting for UKIP is as a PROTEST vote. If they got a big enough vote, it would put the wind up the big two and make them realise they can't take us for granted and they've got to listen to our views on the EU.

cashman

17-11-2011 19:02

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Seems to me like jaysay is one of Grahams 95% really.:D;)

jaysay

17-11-2011 19:03

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 949115)

The only trouble with that Wyn is you'll end up with another dogs breakfast like we have now

jaysay

17-11-2011 19:05

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 949120)

Seems to me like jaysay is one of Grahams 95% really.:D;)

Bollards http://cdn.content.sweetim.com/sim/c...s/00020337.gif

Margaret Pilkington

17-11-2011 19:07

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They should be listening to all the views of the electorate, not just the ones on the mess that is the EU. Bloody Hell(pardon the expletive) isn't that what they are elected to do...and isn't that why they get a very fine salary?
We, the electorate are treated like children...like we cannot put two rational thoughts together...like we are not capable of making decicions. Good God almighty, we all make decisions every single day....just remember that the next time one of these half assed political party's come asking for your vote.

A right shower of sh...fisons

Wynonie Harris

17-11-2011 19:29

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 949123)

Bollards http://cdn.content.sweetim.com/sim/c...s/00020337.gif

You may say (or gesticulate;)) that but you're the one who said you were going to vote Tory, so obviously you're OK with being in the United States of Europe...after all, your leader and party are!

garinda

17-11-2011 19:49

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 949115)

Seeing as they're the ones who probably voted for him, I should imagine there are slightly more disillusined ex-Labour supporters, than there are from other parties.

People like myself, and talking to other folk there are many more like me, who were angered by Graham Jones putting the party's interests, before the rights and interests of the constituents he was elected to represent, and who witnessed him voting to deny them their right to decide the future destiny of this nation.

All this despite weeks earlier, publicly saying that he had no problem with an E.U. referendum, and in his words, stating that it would settle the issue 'democratically'.

If there wasn't going to be a UKIP candidate, which I'm assured there will be, I would still find a way to use my vote to protest against those who actively deny me my democratic right to have a say in my own future, and the future of a country I think is being attacked and damaged, by it's continued membership of the European Union.

As things stand, the only way I can use my vote constructively, and to have my opinions counted, leaves me with no other choice, but to give my support, and vote to UKIP.

accyman

17-11-2011 19:51

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whats that other country thats going to be allowed into the EU in teh next 5 years i cant recall

i know it has a bad reputation for civil unrest and terrorism but cant recall which country it is out of those that fitthat criteria.

oh well never mind which one it is they will be chugging through the channel tunnel soon enough to bleed our system barebone dry

lancsdave

17-11-2011 19:52

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I'm not convinced I can be bothered putting in the effort to vote anymore. No wonder the British people fail to turn out in numbers.

Locally I actually felt we were going to get some real change at the last elections. What a let down :(

garinda

17-11-2011 19:55

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 949121)

The only trouble with that Wyn is you'll end up with another dogs breakfast like we have now

You took an action of protest, because you were angered, at the last General Election.

This is no different.

If UKIP got a credible local candidate to stand, there'd be even more support, I reckon.

People are thoroughly sick and fed up with all the lies, hypocrisy, and sleaze, we've put up with from all three of other parties.

Margaret Pilkington

17-11-2011 19:55

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Isn't Turkey due to become a member. How can Turkey be in Europe?
Isn't Turkey the gateway to Asia.....anyway they may change their minds now they have seen how things are managed in Europe.

lancsdave

17-11-2011 20:00

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 949149)

People are thoroughly sick and fed up with all the lies, hypocrisy, and sleaze, we've put up with from all three of other parties.

Spot on

cashman

17-11-2011 20:00

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 949137)

You may say (or gesticulate;)) that but you're the one who said you were going to vote Tory, so obviously you're OK with being in the United States of Europe...after all, your leader and party are!

Jaysay can gesticulate all he wishes it was he who said to quote" I think its time we got the hell out of there" in the euro referendum thread, yet now says he will stick wi a party that refuses to budge on the issue, so i stand by my assesment, one of grahams 95%, :rolleyes:

garinda

17-11-2011 20:00

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 949124)

like we cannot put two rational thoughts together

There's been more rational thought posted on here by us plebs, than there has been by Grahan Jones of late.

Some were almost surreal works of fiction.

I might gather them all together, and put them in their own little thread.

Unless I do that nearer to the next election.

:rolleyes:

Margaret Pilkington

17-11-2011 20:00

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Bosnia, Serbia, Albania and Montenegro are set to join the EU.....it will take turkey another 15 years to satisfy the stringent political and financial criteria.
Turkey should think itself lucky...they have 15 tears to think of a get out clause.

garinda

17-11-2011 20:03

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 949154)

I might gather them all together, and put them in their own little thread.

Unless I do that nearer to the next election.

:rolleyes:

It might even go viral.

All the fame he ever hungered for.

Up there with Palinisms, in the snigger stakes.

Wynonie Harris

17-11-2011 20:06

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 949153)

Says one thing and does another...now that sounds familiar! ;)

garinda

17-11-2011 20:10

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 949156)

It might even go viral.

All the fame he ever hungered for.

Up there with Palinisms, in the snigger stakes.

Just a few recent tasters...

Quote:

Originally Posted by g jones (Post 947212)

The problem for the Germans is the Mediterranean nations devalue the Deutchmark.

The problems for the Greeks as I said to Bone and Nuttall, if your a Greek with a €100k and someone whispers Drachma, you shift your Euros to a bank outside of Greece. The question is if everyone thinks the same, what happens to the Drachma and the Greek economy, Greek banks? Can any of them survive? Will the position not be cataclysmic compared to where they are now? A run on the Drachma that would resemble a run on the Zimbadwean currency?

...and our first introduction to his friend EdM, whoever that is.

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Originally Posted by g jones (Post 945085)

I criticised the journalists who wrote down EdMs conference speech as missing the point. A point that Philip Blond did not miss at Tory HQ. in short people are turning away from casino capitalism and a something for nothing culture.

This week Cameron and Co jumped on board to EdMs views about promoting proper companies and not promoting greedy or predator companies. A new economic direction.

PM TO EMBRACE 'MORAL MARKETS'
David Cameron is to stress the need for more "moral markets" in an attempt to avoid political fallout from the ongoing protests outside St Paul's Cathedral. The Prime Minister - borrowing the phrase from a speech that David Miliband would have given had he won the Labour leadership - is looking to reclaim the "responsible business" agenda and Ed Miliband's comments that the Conservatives concentrate on helping the "wealthiest one percent of society". His stance has been echoed by Culture Secretary Jeremy Hunt, who told The Times that the Government must look at ways of creating a "kinder, gentler capitalism".
News*|*The Times* Cameron hopes ‘moral markets’ will help to capture protest spirit
Opinion*|*Jeremy Hunt interview*|*The Times*| ‘Sport isn’t just about winning but failing too and fighting back’

accyman

17-11-2011 20:22

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 949155)

15 tears :D

iv cried more than that and were still in europe :D

( need a tongue in cheeck smiley)

Gordon Booth

17-11-2011 20:52

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 949155)

The first four- that's another million workers. Turkey- another five million?
None of us will need to work- none of us will be able to work!

garinda

17-11-2011 21:02

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Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 949186)

The first four- that's another million workers. Turkey- another five million?
None of us will need to work- none of us will be able to work!

Turkey's population is just under 73 million, at present.

The majority of the country's in Asia.

Israel's hoping to join the party too.

http://img.madam.eu/img/smiles/SmileyNo-no.gif

claytonx

17-11-2011 21:02

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Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 949186)

The first four- that's another million workers. Turkey- another five million?
None of us will need to work- none of us will be able to work!

I think in the 60s they promised us more pleasure time? this must be it

Eric	17-11-2011 22:44

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 949191)

Turkey's population is just under 73 million, at present.

The majority of the country's in Asia.

Israel's hoping to join the party too.

http://img.madam.eu/img/smiles/SmileyNo-no.gif

The Germans and the Jews in the same organization .... :eek: Along with Muslim Turkey .... this just gets, well :rofl38::rofl38::rofl38: Hey, why not the Palestinians:dancedog:

Think of the money Britain could save ... won't need a military any more ... if shlt happens, the IDF will have it sorted in no time:uzi::uzi::uzi:

Well, enough political correctness for one nite, I'm off to the pub.:alright:

garinda

18-11-2011 07:26

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 949207)

Yup, one big party.

Just like the Eurovision song contest.

Thinking about it.

We fund most of that shindig too, through our BBC licence fee.

In which every year all of mainland countries form their little alliances, and act as one, and cheat Britain, by acting unfairly towards us, le Royaume-Uni.

Yes, there's definitely comparisons to be drawn.

Another failed Internationalist experiment, where we pay for the privilege to be unfairly dumped on.

Time for us to be Makin' Your Mind Up, before we're forced to meet our Waterloo.

:rolleyes:

jaysay

18-11-2011 09:01

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 949137)

You may say (or gesticulate;)) that but you're the one who said you were going to vote Tory, so obviously you're OK with being in the United States of Europe...after all, your leader and party are!

Ya but UKIP will not be in a position to change anything, Labour and Lib Dems don't want to change anything, at least we may have some of the legislation foisted on us by Brussels rescinded and brought our Parliament remit

Wynonie Harris

18-11-2011 09:17

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 949238)

at least we may have some of the legislation foisted on us by Brussels rescinded and brought our Parliament remit

Yeah, you keep on believing that, mate. There is no chance of rescinding any EU legislation - that's not the way the EU works. David Cameron knows it, too, he's just offering empty promises to his Eurosceptic wing.

cashman

18-11-2011 09:22

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 949238)

Utter rubbish, even if Cameron wanted he aint in a position to do so,due to his bedfellows in government, its sure different to what yeh were advocating in the other thread, 95% again.:rolleyes:

jaysay

18-11-2011 09:40

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 949249)

Utter rubbish, even if Cameron wanted he aint in a position to do so,due to his bedfellows in government, its sure different to what yeh were advocating in the other thread, 95% again.:rolleyes:

When did I ever agree with Jonesy on anything, if he said it was black I'd say it was white just for devilment:D

cashman

18-11-2011 10:02

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 949254)

When did I ever agree with Jonesy on anything, if he said it was black I'd say it was white just for devilment:D

Ah but thats not agreeing wi him, merely proving he may be right.

jaysay

18-11-2011 10:14

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 949255)

Ah but thats not agreeing wi him, merely proving he may be right.

He's never been right in my eyes :cool:

cashman

18-11-2011 10:19

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A clamp down on dodgy scrap metal dealers, may go a long way to sorting out this problem

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 949261)

He's never been right in my eyes :cool:

More rubbish, the above is yer quote from Grahams Thread, yeh seem to agree yon.:D

garinda

18-11-2011 11:39

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The end of the pound? German minister says UK will join the euro (and they've got secret plans to block our referendum)

Wolfgang Schäuble says UK will join euro and Germany has plans to block EU referendum | Mail Online

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claytonx

18-11-2011 11:43

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 949287)

The end of the pound? German minister says UK will join the euro (and they've got secret plans to block our referendum)

Wolfgang Schäuble says UK will join euro and Germany has plans to block EU referendum | Mail Online

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Then we will have to mount protest marches accross the country

garinda

18-11-2011 12:21

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Originally Posted by claytonx (Post 949288)

Then we will have to mount protest marches accross the country

New rulings recently issued by Brussels, will outlaw the following, from January 1st, 2012.

- Any Mounting.

- All Protesting.

- Marching anywhere.

- U.K.'s status as a Country.

accyman

18-11-2011 12:59

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tony blair took care of protesting he got it reclassified as an act of terrorism

hence no more fuel blockades

got his backside handed to him legaly so changed the law to stop it happening again .

i think the torys should undo this injustice so that once again lorry drivers can protest and blockade fuel refinaries until they stop been greedy and lower the price.

ooh look pigs are flying too

accyman

18-11-2011 13:02

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 949287)

The end of the pound? German minister says UK will join the euro (and they've got secret plans to block our referendum)

Wolfgang Schäuble says UK will join euro and Germany has plans to block EU referendum | Mail Online

http://www.emofaces.com/en/smilies/e...e-animated.gif

if they keep on blocking referendums they may find themselves in a guy fawkes sequel.Even if someone didnt care either way about been in the EU a lot of people wont be happy about loosing our currency.

mind you have you notice how our coins look more and more like teh euros each time they get redone which is happening a lot faster than what it used too.Sneaky aint they ;)

claytonx

18-11-2011 14:42

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 949293)

New rulings recently issued by Brussels, will outlaw the following, from January 1st, 2012.

- Any Mounting.

- All Protesting.

- Marching anywhere.

- U.K.'s status as a Country.

Who's that with Bessie Bradock

garinda

18-11-2011 14:53

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Originally Posted by claytonx (Post 949323)

Who's that with Bessie Bradock

Marlene Dietrich.

Talking about lamp-posts.

claytonx

18-11-2011 14:58

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 949293)

New rulings recently issued by Brussels, will outlaw the following, from January 1st, 2012.

- Any Mounting.

- All Protesting.

- Marching anywhere.

- U.K.'s status as a Country.

Any mounting that's going a bit far.

garinda

18-11-2011 14:58

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 949325)

Marlene Dietrich.

Should have mentioned.

She's the one on the left.

jaysay

18-11-2011 17:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 949287)

The end of the pound? German minister says UK will join the euro (and they've got secret plans to block our referendum)

Wolfgang Schäuble says UK will join euro and Germany has plans to block EU referendum | Mail Online

http://www.emofaces.com/en/smilies/e...e-animated.gif

Um the Mail :D

jaysay

18-11-2011 17:49

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 949332)

Should have mentioned.

She's the one on the left.

You'd never have known:D

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