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Eric 29-11-2011 18:05

Only a stone's throw away ...
 
Just looking at footage of the latest manifestation of Britain's popularity in Iran. Reminded me of something from the 60s: "In most world capitals the American embassy is only a stone's throw away.";)

I've been vaguely following the Iranian "thing". How close is the UK to the yanks on the issue of Iran's nukes? Is the "special relationship" going to lead you guys into a new US eff up?

Should maybe let the IDF turn Iran into a radioactive parking lot.

garinda 29-11-2011 18:20

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Oh no need to worry.

We'll just send down the Angel of World (Especially Where There's Oil) Peace, to flutter down amongst the angry, baying mobs.

Tone'll sort it.

If he's asked nicely, he'll happily break off...from counting his millions, and find the time to help.

Bless him.

All will be well.

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...PYQeXQRtCQ15ZQ

MargaretR 29-11-2011 18:23

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Report: Explosion rocks Iran city of Isfahan, home to key nuclear facility - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News
This is the third 'explosion' in recent times - I suspect Mossad are already sabotaging Iran.

If you want to Iran's version of news -
Fars News Agency

MargaretR 26-01-2012 10:16

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This video is going viral on the web, in the hope that IF this was the intention, revealing it will make them think again.

Possible False Flag Attack! - USS Enterprise - War With Iran | Gerald Celente Trends Blog

MargaretR 26-01-2012 10:50

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If you think my last post was hype - I would like you know that war with Iran simulations have been experimented with for a while now, at least since 2006.
The one that seems to be 'favourite' currently is Operation Tirrant (theater Iran near term)
Booman Tribune ~ A Progressive Community

Acrylic-bob 26-01-2012 11:45

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I do not think that there can be any doubt that war with Iran is inevitable, sooner or later. I would hazard the guess that Obama wishes to use it to enhance his campaign for re-election, which would put a start date sometime in September/October.

The other thing to bear in mind is the current global financial mess. There have been many who compare what is currently happening, and what is about to happen, as equal to, or even surpassing, the crash and depression of the 1930's. The best way to get out of a depression, as the military industrial complex discovered in 1939, is to have a war.

As Margaret's video suggests, the USA and Israel are not above lying through their teeth. And you cannot take anything that either says at face value.

I noticed that in his speech to Congress the other day, Obama very carefully and guardedly implied that the groundwork for US involvment in Iran and Syria was already underway. Confrontation with Russia and China was similarly implied.

As far as Israel is concerned there is a point in Iran's nuclear activities beyond which Israel is not prepared to let them go without taking either direct or preferably in-direct action. Israel and its Prime Minister have been lobbying Washington for action relentlessly for quite a while now. Remember Sarkozy's gaff before Christmas and Obama's reply to it, "I have to speak to him every day"?

I would not want to be an Iranian this year.

cashman 26-01-2012 12:33

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Ah but it will be good television Bob.:D

mobertol 26-01-2012 14:16

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At least five Iranian scientists believed to have links to the country’s nuclear programme have been attacked in the past two years, four of them fatally. The last one killed was only just over 2 weeks ago. See link below for full account. It is widely believed that Mossad are respnsible for these murders and that the CIA were involved. Iran has also pointed the finger at British Intelligence too.

Timeline: Assassinated Iranian scientists | The World | International affairs blog from the FT ? FT.com

jaysay 26-01-2012 17:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mobertol (Post 965321)
At least five Iranian scientists believed to have links to the country’s nuclear programme have been attacked in the past two years, four of them fatally. The last one killed was only just over 2 weeks ago. See link below for full account. It is widely believed that Mossad are respnsible for these murders and that the CIA were involved. Iran has also pointed the finger at British Intelligence too.

Timeline: Assassinated Iranian scientists | The World | International affairs blog from the FT ? FT.com

Surely the CIA or British Intelligence could be involved in these heinous crimes, could they!!;)

Gordon Booth 26-01-2012 18:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 965295)
This video is going viral on the web, in the hope that IF this was the intention, revealing it will make them think again.

Possible False Flag Attack! - USS Enterprise - War With Iran | Gerald Celente Trends Blog

MargaretR, you're at it again-posting wild conspiracy theories.
Do you honestly think the USA and Israel would sink a nuclear powered aircraft carrier with all its crew to justify an attack on Iran?
They don't need that, Iran close to possessing nuclear bombs is enough, even some of the Arab states are in fear(Sunni/Shia differences) and would welcome intervention.
By posting this rubbish you cast doubts on your own grasp of sanity and the real world.
I read your attachments not to be informed and educated but to make me smile on a cold, dark winters day.

MargaretR 26-01-2012 18:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 965370)
MargaretR, you're at it again-posting wild conspiracy theories.
Do you honestly think the USA and Israel would sink a nuclear powered aircraft carrier with all its crew to justify an attack on Iran?
They don't need that, Iran close to possessing nuclear bombs is enough, even some of the Arab states are in fear(Sunni/Shia differences) and would welcome intervention.
By posting this rubbish you cast doubts on your own grasp of sanity and the real world.
I read your attachments not to be informed and educated but to make me smile on a cold, dark winters day.

You obviously haven't watched the video before you commented.

It's on its last mission before it is due to be scrapped.
Decommissioning a nuclear vessel is VERY expensive - cheaper to sink it 'in a good cause':rolleyes:

At Pearl Harbour they moved the new stuff out and moved the old stuff in just before the attack.
Oh forgive me:rolleyes: that's a conspiracy theory too.

Sailors can be used as cannon fodder too.

I just hope that I won't get a chance to say 'I told you so'

Gordon Booth 26-01-2012 19:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 965380)
You obviously haven't watched the video before you commented.

It's on its last mission before it is due to be scrapped.
Decommissioning a nuclear vessel is VERY expensive - cheaper to sink it 'in a good cause':rolleyes:

At Pearl Harbour they moved the new stuff out and moved the old stuff in just before the attack.
Oh forgive me:rolleyes: that's a conspiracy theory too.

Sailors can be used as cannon fodder too.

I just hope that I won't get a chance to say 'I told you so'

Of course I watched the video first- I wouldn't comment on it if I hadn't.

Your comments about Pearl Harbour- pure drivel straight form the video.
The Pacific fleet was the pride of the USA navy, not 'old stuff' and it was pure chance the three aircraft carriers weren't caught as well. America was crippled-you suggest that was Americas intention? Silly.
If the USA had set up Pearl Harbour to tempt the Japanese to attack don't you think they'd have been waiting for them? They had over 400 aircraft even without the carriers and could have stopped the Japanese there and then.
Stop reading this bull, MargaretR, start reading history.

MargaretR 26-01-2012 19:04

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You are one of those people with unshakable trust in the good intentions of your government.

It is a comfortable place to be - I remember it well.

Gordon Booth 26-01-2012 19:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 965393)
You are one of those people with unshakable trust in the good intentions of your government.

Are you telling me the UK Government is involved as well?
Oh no!

DaveinGermany 26-01-2012 20:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 965298)
I would like you know that war with Iran simulations have been experimented with for a while now, at least since 2006.

US & Nato have always simulated/planned out/played through various scenarios against a possible enemy attack/strike since the days of the "Cold War". For the last 50 odd years it was Russia who was the bogeyman of these war games but with the break up of the Russian federation, the little niggles that were the middle east have now taken on a more dominant role.

That being the case the "Strikes" against Iran are really nothing new as such, it's just that as more advanced & precision weaponry becomes available the game plan changes & is trialled, preparation & planning doesn't necessarily mean retaliatory or offensive strikes.

garinda 27-01-2012 19:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 965392)
Of course I watched the video first- I wouldn't comment on it if I hadn't.

Your comments about Pearl Harbour- pure drivel straight form the video.
The Pacific fleet was the pride of the USA navy, not 'old stuff' and it was pure chance the three aircraft carriers weren't caught as well. America was crippled-you suggest that was Americas intention? Silly.
If the USA had set up Pearl Harbour to tempt the Japanese to attack don't you think they'd have been waiting for them? They had over 400 aircraft even without the carriers and could have stopped the Japanese there and then.
Stop reading this bull, MargaretR, start reading history.

There's only a select chosen few, who really know what's happening in the world today.

The majority of the chosen conduits are some of the greatest minds, the western world possesses.

It's just pure coincidence that most of them are spotty, lard arse American teens, who live in run down trailer parks, and whose Momma is also their sister.

It was one of these few, selected to know the truth, who told me this has been going on for quite a while, apparently.

In fact at the Boston Tea Party, the high grade Lapsang Souchong was exchanged for Walmart's budget range of chicory tip, just prior to being dumped in the harbour.

You live and learn.

Thanks to the pure white trash.

Eric 27-01-2012 21:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 965392)
Of course I watched the video first- I wouldn't comment on it if I hadn't.

Your comments about Pearl Harbour- pure drivel straight form the video.
The Pacific fleet was the pride of the USA navy, not 'old stuff' and it was pure chance the three aircraft carriers weren't caught as well. America was crippled-you suggest that was Americas intention? Silly.
If the USA had set up Pearl Harbour to tempt the Japanese to attack don't you think they'd have been waiting for them? They had over 400 aircraft even without the carriers and could have stopped the Japanese there and then.
Stop reading this bull, MargaretR, start reading history.

While I don't think that Pearl Harbor was a set up, it is difficult to deny that the US battleships were old to the point of being obsolete. Not only was the US not crippled, neither was Pearl Harbor. There were many tactical mistakes made by the Japanese, probably because Admiral Nagumo was a "battleship admiral" who had little familiarity with naval aviation. The yanks in their arrogant isolation had neglected to take note of British success at Taranto. The Japanese observers did take note, hence their dramatic but limited success. The yanks didn't line up their battleships in a row because of some sinister plot; they did it because the local commader, Kimmel, was an idiot ... and there were idiots higher up who did nothing to correct the insane dispositions he made.

However, I do agree that most conspiracy theories, while fascinating, are total bs. If the yanks with their loyal allies in Jerusalem and London want to attack Iran, they don't need a complex conspiracy, merely a flimsy excuse.

cashman 27-01-2012 23:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 965636)

However, I do agree that most conspiracy theories, while fascinating, are total bs. If the yanks with their loyal allies in Jerusalem and London want to attack Iran, they don't need a complex conspiracy, merely a flimsy excuse.

Yeh got it bang on Eric, Was it "Grenada"?:D

MargaretR 09-06-2012 10:13

Re: Only a stone's throw away ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 965295)
This video is going viral on the web, in the hope that IF this was the intention, revealing it will make them think again.

Possible False Flag Attack! - USS Enterprise - War With Iran | Gerald Celente Trends Blog

That post was in January.

Update today -

There is a rumour on the web that the US aircraft carrier Enterprise has been attacked.

The SUA Blog | Stand Up America US |

Breaking News- A Major Attack on US Naval Forces in the Straits of Hormus | Gold Coast Chronicle

and it is in the right place -
Navy deploys 2nd aircraft carrier to Persian Gulf; USS Enterprise joins Abraham Lincoln strike group - CBS News

This is rumour - possibly true - we will wait and see:(

cashman 09-06-2012 14:54

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Read the last letter from Navywife.:rolleyes:

Gordon Booth 09-06-2012 15:31

Re: Only a stone's throw away ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 996712)
That post was in January.

Update today -

There is a rumour on the web that the US aircraft carrier Enterprise has been attacked.


Breaking News- A Major Attack on US Naval Forces in the Straits of Hormus | Gold Coast Chronicle[/URL]

and it is in the right place -
Navy deploys 2nd aircraft carrier to Persian Gulf; USS Enterprise joins Abraham Lincoln strike group - CBS News[/URL]

This is rumour - possibly true - we will wait and see:(

Well, MargartR, it looks like your original rumour may have been right(post 4)!
As soon as you confirm the Americans did it( or got the Israelis to do it for them) I promise never to doubt your stories again.
Strange there's no other report on the internet news agencies, you must be on the 'Need to Know' list.

kestrelx 09-06-2012 15:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 965298)
If you think my last post was hype - I would like you know that war with Iran simulations have been experimented with for a while now, at least since 2006.
The one that seems to be 'favourite' currently is Operation Tirrant (theater Iran near term)
Booman Tribune ~ A Progressive Community

Well America is run by Zionists - they are behind the Gulf Wars and removal of any percieved threats from the middle east to Israel - Sadaam and Gadaffi both stood up to Israel, both are now dead. Next one is Syria and then Iran. :D

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kestrelx 09-06-2012 15:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 965295)
This video is going viral on the web, in the hope that IF this was the intention, revealing it will make them think again.

Possible False Flag Attack! - USS Enterprise - War With Iran | Gerald Celente Trends Blog

I just tried to watch this video and it's been removed by the page owner!

Gordon Booth 09-06-2012 16:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 996760)
I just tried to watch this video and it's been removed by the page owner!

That's because you're not on the 'Need to Know' list. They're controlling your computer.

Boeing Guy 09-06-2012 16:49

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Let us not forget that Sadaam Hussein killed many of his own countrymen, as did
Gaddaffi.
I have met the current President of Iraq, he is a far better man than Sadaam ever was.



Seeing the current massacre in Syria, i would not complain if he US went in.:rolleyes:

jaysay 10-06-2012 09:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Boeing Guy (Post 996766)
Let us not forget that Sadaam Hussein killed many of his own countrymen, as did
Gaddaffi.
I have met the current President of Iraq, he is a far better man than Sadaam ever was.



Seeing the current massacre in Syria, i would not complain if he US went in.:rolleyes:

Is there oil in Syria BG:rolleyes:

MargaretR 11-06-2012 10:50

Re: Only a stone's throw away ...
 
We are still no wiser on whether an attack on the aircraft carrier happened.

That is not an indication that it didn't, because a similar event happened 45 years ago, about which nothing was ever reported officially.

PressTV - Israel attack on US Navy ship, history or story

There is much that happens that never gets told (other than by the persons who witnessed it)

kestrelx 11-06-2012 11:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 996764)
That's because you're not on the 'Need to Know' list. They're controlling your computer.

No I think he was threatened with assasination for posting that information! :eek::rolleyes:

kestrelx 11-06-2012 11:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Boeing Guy (Post 996766)
Let us not forget that Sadaam Hussein killed many of his own countrymen, as did
Gaddaffi.
I have met the current President of Iraq, he is a far better man than Sadaam ever was.



Seeing the current massacre in Syria, i would not complain if he US went in.:rolleyes:

Yeh But the Americans supplied Sadaam with the chemical weapons that he killed his own people with - which is like someone giving a teenager a gun to go and shoot a gang member, supplying a gun is a criminal offence.

Quote:

A 1994 congressional inquiry also found that dozens of biological agents, including various strains of anthrax, had been shipped to Iraq by US companies, under licence from the commerce department.
Furthermore, in 1988, the Dow Chemical company sold $1.5m-worth (£930,000) of pesticides to Iraq despite suspicions they would be used for chemical warfare.


Rumsfeld 'offered help to Saddam' | World news | The Guardian

Also the Americans gave weapons to the Mudja Hadeen in the 80's to help them fight the Communist Soviets! Who then once the Russians left Afghanistan started fighting each other and out of that came Al Qaeda! So effectively the Americans armed terrorists - and here we go again!

jaysay 11-06-2012 18:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 997071)
Yeah But the Americans supplied Saddam with the chemical weapons that he killed his own people with - which is like someone giving a teenager a gun to go and shoot a gang member, supplying a gun is a criminal offence.





Rumsfeld 'offered help to Saddam' | World news | The Guardian

Also the Americans gave weapons to the Mudja Hadeen in the 80's to help them fight the Communist Soviets! Who then once the Russians left Afghanistan started fighting each other and out of that came Al Qaeda! So effectively the Americans armed terrorists - and here we go again!

That's what one earwig said to another:rolleyes:

Gordon Booth 11-06-2012 18:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 997068)
No I think he was threatened with assasination for posting that information! :eek::rolleyes:

By MargartR?

kestrelx 12-06-2012 14:26

Re: Only a stone's throw away ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 965597)
There's only a select chosen few, who really know what's happening in the world today.

The majority of the chosen conduits are some of the greatest minds, the western world possesses.

It's just pure coincidence that most of them are spotty, lard arse American teens, who live in run down trailer parks, and whose Momma is also their sister.

It was one of these few, selected to know the truth, who told me this has been going on for quite a while, apparently.

In fact at the Boston Tea Party, the high grade Lapsang Souchong was exchanged for Walmart's budget range of chicory tip, just prior to being dumped in the harbour.

You live and learn.

Thanks to the pure white trash.

From this post i can detect total scepticism about conspiracy theories and people who believe in them. Even JFK knew that there were levels of Government that are covert and corrupt...that is fact! What you see on the news is highly controlled and News readers are mere puppets who read what they are told - on their salaries they keep their mouths shut! ;):rolleyes:

Evil. Listen To What JFK Says -- He was killed 10 days after? Listen to what John Todd Say about JFK. - YouTube

kestrelx 12-06-2012 14:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 952818)
Report: Explosion rocks Iran city of Isfahan, home to key nuclear facility - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News
This is the third 'explosion' in recent times - I suspect Mossad are already sabotaging Iran.

If you want to Iran's version of news -
Fars News Agency


NATO preparing vast disinformation campaign;

NATO preparing vast disinformation campaign [Voltaire Network]

Quote:

The hampering of TV satellites for military purposes is not new. Under pressure from Israel, the USA and the EU blocked Lebanese, Palestinian, Iraqi, Libyan and Iranian TV channels, one after the other. However, no satellite channels from other parts of the world were censured.
The broadcast of false news is also not new, but four significant steps have been taken in the art of propaganda during the last decade.
• In 1994, a pop music station named “Free Radio of the Thousand Hills” (RTML) gave the signal for genocide in Rwanda with the cry, “Kill the cockroaches!
• In 2001, NATO used the media to impose an interpretation of the 9/11 attacks and to justify its own aggression against Afghanistan and Iraq. At that time already, it was Ben Rhodes who had been commissioned by the Bush administration to concoct the Kean/Hamilton Commission report on the attacks.
• In 2002, the CIA used five TV channels (Televen, Globovision, ValeTV and CMT) to make the public in Venezuela believe that phantom demonstrators had captured the elected president, Hugo Chávez, forcing him to resign. In reality he was the victim of a military coup d’etat.
• In 2011, France 24 served as information ministry for the Libyan CNT, according to a signed contract. During the battle of Tripoli, NATO produced fake studio films, then transmitted them via Al-Jazeera and Al-Arabiya, showing phantom images of Libyan rebels on the central square of the capital city, while in reality they were still far away. As a consequence, the inhabitants of Tripoli were persuaded that the war was lost and gave up all resistance.

Boeing Guy 15-06-2012 19:00

Re: Only a stone's throw away ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 965295)
This video is going viral on the web, in the hope that IF this was the intention, revealing it will make them think again.

Possible False Flag Attack! - USS Enterprise - War With Iran | Gerald Celente Trends Blog

It apparently is now in Pakistans waters
Reports claim American supership USS Enterprise is in Pak territorial waters | Deccan Chronicle
:rolleyes:


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