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WillowTheWhisp 21-12-2006 08:07

Re: Milnshaw Park
 
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Originally Posted by bullseyebarb (Post 354981)
You can make it happen. But it requires a sustained commitment. Part of that is impressing upon local government that this is important to you. Remember, the squeaky wheel gets the most oil.


Oh we're not short of a bit of squeaking but I think HBC just turns a deaf ear.

However, that wasn't what was meant.


You can spend a whole week with volunteers cleaning up the parks and getting rid of the druggies' needles, painting over the graffiti, mending broken fences etc but turn your back on it for a couple of days and the vandals are round there again wrecking the place. We need people employed on a regular basis to look after the parks like we had 'in the olden days'.

SPUGGIE J 21-12-2006 08:21

Re: Milnshaw Park
 
Employing a full time parky is a good idea in theory but unless he has the backing required to stop these idiots then they will still carry on as normal. I rember Gatty Park having its own parky and being chased out several times (not for anything bad mind) and we had no problem escaping and then going back. These idiots will allways win as there is no real legal backup for the parky and ifd it does come it will be guarenteed to be late and inaffective.

WillowTheWhisp 21-12-2006 08:25

Re: Milnshaw Park
 
Yep, it seems like we just keep chipping away at the effect without actually being able to tackle the cause.

If you do try to stop vandals you just get a mouthful of abuse - or worse.

bullseyebarb 22-12-2006 15:29

Re: Milnshaw Park
 
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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 355042)
Oh we're not short of a bit of squeaking but I think HBC just turns a deaf ear.

However, that wasn't what was meant.


You can spend a whole week with volunteers cleaning up the parks and getting rid of the druggies' needles, painting over the graffiti, mending broken fences etc but turn your back on it for a couple of days and the vandals are round there again wrecking the place. We need people employed on a regular basis to look after the parks like we had 'in the olden days'.

Obviously a quality of life issue. What's needed here are regular police patrols. As taxpayers you have a right to enjoy the park. Don't suppose there's much chance of you getting the coppers to flush out the dregs of society on a regular basis, is there?

cashman 22-12-2006 18:56

Re: Milnshaw Park
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bullseyebarb (Post 355482)
Obviously a quality of life issue. What's needed here are regular police patrols. As taxpayers you have a right to enjoy the park. Don't suppose there's much chance of you getting the coppers to flush out the dregs of society on a regular basis, is there?

:rofl38: regular police patrols pmsl,bullseye we dont even get them around the residential areas,never mind the parks. would agree its a quality of life issue,but we dont get one.;)

WillowTheWhisp 22-12-2006 19:07

Re: Milnshaw Park
 
Oh the blissful ignorance of dwelling elsewhere eh Cashman? ;)

Ianto.W. 22-12-2006 21:57

Re: Milnshaw Park
 
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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 355566)
:rofl38: regular police patrols pmsl,bullseye we dont even get them around the residential areas,never mind the parks. would agree its a quality of life issue,but we dont get one.;)

They have a heck of a job 'patroling' strapped inside a police car.


entwisi 22-12-2006 23:27

Re: Milnshaw Park
 
When I was at Uni I had a summer job as 'Park Patrol' in Milnshaw. (This was ~87). At that time there were 2 groundsmen employed to look after that one park (Although they did grow plants in teh greenhouses for Gatty as well.) My job was to stop kids wrecking the joint. I used to organise games of footy, sort out the tennis nets and other jobs. The old dears looked aftyer teh bowling green although we used to have a good few kids who would often have a game with the owd codgers.

Sadly cost cutting meant that teh gardeners wre asked to take on more parks and eventually they couldn't keep up.

cashman 23-12-2006 00:00

Re: Milnshaw Park
 
Sadly cost cutting meant that teh gardeners wre asked to take on more parks and eventually they couldn't keep up.-------------------------------------- and thats the truth entwi! but the way things are now i doubt wether the return of wardens would halt the oiks. the gardeners would certainly improve the view.

cashman 23-12-2006 00:02

Re: Milnshaw Park
 
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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 355567)
Oh the blissful ignorance of dwelling elsewhere eh Cashman? ;)

yeh but he means well willow.:)

bullseyebarb 27-12-2006 18:21

Re: Milnshaw Park
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 355567)
Oh the blissful ignorance of dwelling elsewhere eh Cashman? ;)


I'll own to blissful. However, even though I left the borough long ago, I still consider myself to be a local lass. Have many relatives in the area and visit periodically. I am aware of the problems....and even more up to speed since joining AccyWeb.

It's been a long time since I walked through Milnshaw Park and I am sorry to hear that it is in such bad condition now. Nothing beats a policeman patrolling on foot. The priorities are all wrong these days.

How's about some publicity to draw attention to the situation? Local paper/radio?

grego 27-12-2006 19:52

Re: Milnshaw Park
 
Why cant offenders given "community service" be directed to cleaning up the streets and parks, also able bodied unemployed could be doing this for their dole money.

cashman 27-12-2006 21:55

Re: Milnshaw Park
 
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Originally Posted by grego (Post 357087)
Why cant offenders given "community service" be directed to cleaning up the streets and parks, also able bodied unemployed could be doing this for their dole money.

thats quite a good point i think grego.

WillowTheWhisp 27-12-2006 23:23

Re: Milnshaw Park
 
I agree about the community service too. There must be plenty of fit young layabouts who get fines for one thing or another that they never intend to pay - a bit of park cleaning instead would do them and the parks the world of good. You can bet it probably infringes their human rights or something though.

cashman 27-12-2006 23:26

Re: Milnshaw Park
 
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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 357165)
I agree about the community service too. There must be plenty of fit young layabouts who get fines for one thing or another that they never intend to pay - a bit of park cleaning instead would do them and the parks the world of good. You can bet it probably infringes their human rights or something though.

you may find this hard to believe,but i would infringe their human rights,starting with turd patrol in milnshaw.:D


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