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I was discussing funerals with a colleague the other day when the subject of The Iron Lady came up. It has been reported in the press that when Lady Thatcher dies she will be accorded the honour of a State Funeral which will be conducted at St Paul's Cathedral.

Unusually, when it comes to discussions of Lady Thatcher, we were at variance over the proposals for the funeral.

What do members think; is it an honour too far or the appropriate acknowlegement of service to the nation?

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Honour to far, she deserves burning in public.

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Why?

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Did Winston Churchill or any other "great" PM ever get one?

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Why should she get one? She was nothing special, silly cow

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But for Thatcher, Britain would have had the economy of a banana republic years before Tony and Gordon achieved it

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Winston Churchill had a state funeral in 1965.
Other notable people who were afforded a state funeral were: Viscount Nelson,The Duke of Wellington, William Gladstone, Earl Haigh.
Benjamin Disraeli was offered a state funeral, but declined it in his will. Florence Nightingals was also offered a state funeral but declined this honour.
So the answer to your question Dianne, is yes...... there have been a few great statesmen who have had state funerals

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On the whole I do like a good funeral and state occaisions are pretty special. I am just old enough to have reliable memories of Sir Winston Churchill's funeral and pretty spectacular it was too. I think watching it in black and white added something to the occaision.

So Lady Thatcher guided the country for a while, through troubled times, using wit intelligence and energy. For which she was amply rewarded in pecuniary terms and also by being elevated to the nobility. Fair enough.

But my mind is continually drawn to those men and women who also serve their country in its hour of need. Who face danger to life and limb on a daily basis. Who forego the joys of family life for extended periods so that we may enjoy our own in freedom and peace. Who, whenever they are required to do so, are willing to give up their own lives and futures without hesitation or complaint. There are also those who survive, but with appalling injuries to mind and body.

My question is this: where is the offer of an equal schedule of honours for them? Where is the sad, solemn procession to St Pauls Cathedral for those who die in war? Why does our nation's capital not come to a halt to mark the passage of those who gave not only their time, their wit and intellience, but also their very lives?

If every life is unique and every life uniquely valuable, why must the many make do with so little simply because they are the many?

It all seems a tad unfair somehow.

Perhaps if all those who died in war were accorded the honour of a state funeral then the true cost of war would be brought home more forcibly to those so eager to indulge in it.

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It looks like preparations are underway.
They are even rewriting history to say that the Belgrano was sailing the other way.

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Now that's not a bad idea...

Yes, I remember Churchill's funeral... in black and white, as you say. Very moving and solemn.

Bet you didn't watch Diana's - I certainly didn't.

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Story in the press this morning that the BBC are recording items for Tony Blair's Obituary, do they still hang um for war crimes, or are we not being told something

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There would be problems with giving Margaret Thatcher a state funeral, because there is such divided opinion about her "achievements" in power.

Yes she took over at a time that the country was on its knees financially, but were her solutions socially fair? I'm sure that there are plenty of ex miners and public sector workers who feel they were made to bear a disproportionate burden of the measures that brought about the economic improvements in the early 1990s. The Loadsamoney culture of the 1980s benefitted only a few, and the disastrous privatisation of the railways and bus services are hardly achievements she can be proud of. And the poll tax was one of the most divisive pieces of legislation in history. Just ask the Scots!

By all means mark her passing with the respect it deserves, but keep state funerals for leaders who worked in the interests of EVERYONE.

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Does it really matter which way the Belgrano was sailing? We were at war.
It was or could be a threat, to our ships and lads. Why don't we ask those fortunate enough to have survived the HMS Sheffield attack? Or maybe Simon Weston?

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[quote=gynn;958457
By all means mark her passing with the respect it deserves, but keep state funerals for leaders who worked in the interests of EVERYONE.[/quote]

Pray tell, who would you have make the judgement of who receives a state funeral and who doesn't?
Would these judges be likely to be 'bought'....by honours,position or money?
I am not being fly when I ask this....I am truly interested in who you think would be neutral and unbiased enough to make the decision.
(please don't tell me you would allow it to be a public vote.....this would make the honour something like an X factor final)

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She also introduced the right to buy council houses which has led to a severely depleted stock of social housing today.

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Gynn, John Major privatised the Railways in 1993 thru 1997. Maggie opposed the privatisation of British Rail, saying it 'would be waterloo for the government'

Regarding the Council House issue, it can be said it empowers people and gives them aspirations, my Grandpartents bought theirs and in selling it several years later were able to buy a nice bungalow in Birkdale.

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Am I being naive in hoping that there are enough people in positions of power to gauge public opinion of whether a state funeral for a specific individual would be a good or bad thing?

Yes they might think someone deserves one, but if it is going to provoke a wave of arguments, bad feeling and even public misbehaviour, they won't do it.

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Yes I agree but measures should still be taken to replenish the stock of social housing.

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Yes Gynn.....I think you are being naive.
Perhaps the only person who can't be bought is the Monarch.....but then that would perhaps not sit well with those who do not like the Royals.
I can't think of anyone I would trust....not someone who wouldn't subvert it for their own purposes......yes, I know....I need to take another anti cynical pill.

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The boat, used in his funeral, the Havengore, was up for sale for a million pounds, in 2005.

British Pathe - WORLD IN REMEMBRANCE

Churchill's funeral boat returns to Thames with £1m price tag | UK news | The Guardian

January '65.

One in, me.

One out, him.

Pity I don't believe in reincarnation.

It would explain why I'm always giving people a two fingered salute.

:rolleyes::D

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You could always call for a referendum.

To gauge public opinion.

Oh, hang on.

You don't believe in them.

;):D

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on the behalf of anyone who ever had a poll tax bill , was imprisoned for been poor and unable to afford their poll tax bill and also on behalf of those poor children who watched their fathers beaten infront of them in their homes by police on her orders i will gladly burn the bitch alive now for free :D

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There are enough people who agree with your sentiments (if not the violence of your solution!) to make a state funeral a complete non starter.

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i think it would cost way too much in extra policeing trying to keep it peacefull alone to justify it in these hard times.Although i dont see the point in protesting at someone who is dead there is an element out there that would gladly use her funeral as an excuse to have a ding dong with the police.I dont see the point in inviting trouble the woman was very much a hated and despised person by a lot of people and giving her this unwarranted glorification is just asking for trouble.

Chuck her in a hole and letthe worms have their pound of flesh and be done with it :)

if that dosnt sway any die hard tory think of it as denying tony blair a photo opportunity because im pretty sure he will be attending lol

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Seams reasonable enough to me does that BG

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Funny thing is Labour never reversed the legislation when they held the reins of power and they had long enough to think about it;)

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Oh come on accyman it wouldn't be a show without Punch:rolleyes:

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set her on fire and send her down the Ganges

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ohhh yes it would .....( in panto voice) :D

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I've just mentioned this thread to my partner who reckons that Whinney Hill tip would be too good for her - I must say I'm inclined to agree.

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Which way would that be ? According to Argentina it was heading away from the Falklands but British Military intelligence states otherwise.

Belgrano was heading to the Falklands, secret papers reveal - Telegraph

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You'll have to excuse MargaretR Dave, she doesn't do much in research on these subjects;)

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History of war is written by the winners.:rolleyes:

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we were at war. what would you have done?

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She'd probably have googled it BG;)

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Is that some clever quote you got from one of the truth websites you subscribe to?
Of course they don't have any hidden agenda's unlike the press, tv and anyone who does not agree with your interesting view of the world.
Just so you know Sir Winston Churchill is credited with that.

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OOH and my New Year Reserlution was to try and be a nicer person,,thats just gone down the pan,
I AM SO WITH YOU ON THIS CASHY

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Seems a little harsh to want to do that to a poor little frail old lady.

Sorry, never agreed with her ideals but i don't get this "hatred".

To many she was an inspirational woman in her day ,first female PM and I think she wore the pants when she was in office ,not easy back then as it was very much a male dominated world.

By the way, has she actually expressed any interest in a State funeral herself?

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I think the problem was that it was a woman who took this country by the scruff of the neck and dragged it back to reality. The fact that she made it clear that it was the elected Government who run the country and not the trade Unions, its just a pity we don't have anybody today who can do the same thing, either male or female of any party

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She and her government introduced the Poll Tax, sold off our nationalised industries, decimated our social housing stock and mining/manufacturing industries, significantly broadened the gap between rich and poor, over three million out of work, increased interest rates, manufactured a war to meet her own ends, I could go on I'm sure.
I certainly wouldn't support a state funeral for her and should we be tempted by a bank holiday I will choose to work instead or do voluntary work.
Her party was interested only in keeping down the masses in order that the upper classes could gain more wealth - in my opinion.

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What the bitch did was a reality some wouldn't recognise if it slapped em in the kisser.:rolleyes:

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Just wonder why 14 million people voted Tory at a general elect, the most votes ever recorded by a single party in history, if you think that only the rich and well heeled elect Tory Governments, your not dealing with a full deck

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From the Scottish Daily Record:
Margaret Thatcher approves plan for state funeral costing at least £2m

Dec 12 2011 By Torcuil Crichton
MARGARET THATCHER is said to have approved a blueprint for an eye-wateringly expensive state funeral.
The former Tory Prime Minister's plans are said to include similar arrangements to those given to Winston Churchill, including a send-off at St Paul's Cathedral and a concert orchestra playing Land Of Hope And Glory.
But the 86-year-old has said that she does not want the public to see her lying in state and does not want a military fly-over at her funeral.
The price for a state funeral is likely to run into millions of pounds, with policing such an event costing s2million alone.
Thatcher has requested to be buried at the cemetery of the Royal Chelsea Hospital, where her husband Denis, who died in 2003, was laid to rest.
Although her health has deteriorated in recent months, plans for the funeral have been ongoing since 2007.
Details are set to be discussed this week in a meeting chaired by Cabinet Office minister Francis Maude.
Whitehall officials are said to be concerned about the cost of a state funeral and there are fears of a public backlash against the plans from those who view her as a hate figure after the Falklands War and miners strikes of the 80s.
Last night, there was already a political outcry at the idea of spending so much on the arrangements.
Former MP George Galloway said she should got to an unmarked watery grave after details of plans for the expensive pomp were leaked.
He said: "A far better plan would be to for a funeral at sea off the Falklands at a spot where she ordered the sinking of the Belgrano."

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Could we give George Galloway a funeral at sea, he does not need to be dead....

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Burying her at sea off the Falklands sounds a tad extreme, and still expensive. Why not just toss her into the cut off the Whalley Road bridge in Clayton. Do it now, so that she has time for a farewell speech. I took a drunken header into the cut; and I survived. Maybe she could luck out.:D Raffle off the right to giver her a good swift boot to the ass to help her on her way.

Come to think of it, Tony Blair was a strong, controversial PM. Had to handle the Diana crisis. Got involved in a couple of neat wars. State funeral for Tony anyone?:rolleyes: Now, or later:D

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when tony blair dies they are having a seperate funeral for his smug smile

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quote,,,,,But the 86-year-old has said that she does not want the public to see her lying in state at her funeral.,,,,,unquote
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Shes probably scared to think how many people would spit on her coffin,
I would.

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Methinks that the Great British Public will be unable to achieve the degree of solemnity and tearfulness required for a State Funeral. Maybe the government could hire a few thousand North Koreans.:D

Apart from Mrs. Thatcher, has anyone given any thought to any particular piece of music that would be appropriate for the occasion:rolleyes:

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ding dong the witch is dead ?

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Lol! Much appreciated as an ex-Munchkin -might be better to play the other one though;)

ding dong the witch is dead - Bing Video#

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ex-Munchkin ?

did santa bring you those stilts you wanted ? :D

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Had the great honour of playing one in a school musical back in 1975 -was a bit shorter back then!:D

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How about "The Road To Hell" Chris Rea, eric? that seems very apt.;)

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me too but then again i was only 4 :)

played twinkle in our school play which i dont recall been an official dwarf but according to the little song and dance i had to do he was teh more hyperactive of teh bunch :D

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As sung by the good Lady herself -what could be more fitting than the Grantham Anthem?


Spitting Image - Granthem Anthem - YouTube

:D

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Ahhh! How sweet - dear little Twinkie;):p

Are there any incriminating photos I wonder? Were you wearing a pink Tutu and gossamer wings?

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i recall a short tunic and a forgetting to put undies on which didnt become public knowledge until we all led on the floor feet facing the audience :eek:

my small part in the play got the biggest laugh :(:)

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Now which small part would that have been?:eek:;):D

Karma to you for this one -a real laugh out loud moment -can't stop!!! Thank-you;):D

Sorry - am hysterical. It's just that i called you Twinkie - should have dropped the "T" perhaps!

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We currently have a government which nobody elected.
And I do realise that a lot of people other than the upper classes vote Tory, although I personally completely fail to understand why, but I don't think we have a credible alternative at the moment.
Anyway we're all entitled to our own opinions and to vote for who we want, my main problem is with Mrs. Thatcher, I don't mind Mr. Cameron quite so much and I do agree with one or two of the current policies, the thought of him doesn't make my blood boil like the thought of Maggie does!

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If yeh wonder that,then yer lights have gone out,:rolleyes: It was the simple fact it was a "Woman" many many female Labour voters voted on that one fact,including me late Mum In Law, n lived to regret the fact afterwards, really i credited yeh wi a bit more common than that.:eek:

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Na Half Way to Paradise would be more fitting:D

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Its just a pity that the election in Question was the 1992 event when John Major was the PM,;) mind you our John had a way with women didn't he:D

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You don't know why the ordinary man in the street vote Tory, its quite easy really Herold (this won't effect the pound in your pocket)Wilson, Jim (Crisis what crisis)Callaghan, Tony (whiter than white government) Blair, Gordon(useless) Brown, were as much use as a one legged man at an arse kick contest, in terms of running the country ;)

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I think we need to agree to differ here Jaysay, I'm coming across as a far left wing socialist which I can assure you I'm not!
But I stand by my comments about Margaret Thatcher and her government.

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Now please.......and don't be offering to dirty the clayton cut....I live right next to it....don't want such unpalatable debris floating about on the top, thanks!

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Sorry about that. You are right. And I suppose they cleaned up the River Stink ... no sense re-polluting it.;)

An aside: when I was at the University of Saskatchewan the authorities had problems with John Diefenbaker's grave on campus. Seems like after the usually friday nite beer fest at the Louis Riel pub, students were performing minor desecrations on his grave. I think that urinating, defecating, and vomiting sums it up;):D They moved his mortal remains to a resting place in a more right-wing, red neck area.:cool:

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Showing your age, Eric ;). Wonder if anyone still calls it that?

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yep most people i know,including me.:D

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No wonder our town's got such a wonderful image! :rolleyes::rolleyes:

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That don't make a blind bit of difference to that fact susie, was called that by near everyone when accy was a great little town.;)

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True, Cashy, point taken.

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hang on the river stink has been known by a different name ?

I wasnt aware they cleaned it up i thought they just relocated the sewage pipe lol

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To get back on thread a moment - from The Guardian clip quoted above:

"The Queen had decided in 1963 - when Churchill was already too ill to attend the ceremony where President John F Kennedy made him the first honorary citizen of the United States - that it would be a state funeral, the most spectacular since the Duke of Wellington's more than a century earlier."

Who has decided now that Lady Thatcher should have a State funeral -is it still The Queen's choice or is it in the hands of politicians?

I would love to have been a fly on the wall back in their weekly meetings, somehow I can't imagine them getting on:rolleyes:

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Thing wi Churchill, although a Tory n in peacetime wasn't a great leader, didn't hear many,if any, dissenting voices to his funeral. I wonder what the difference could be?:rolleyes:

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Well you have to admit cashy Churchill and Thatcher had something in common, they were both good at kicking the germans backside:D

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looks like they are trying to soften the public up to the idea of this farce

a document has just been released showing she insisted on paying for her own ironing board at number 10 to keep costs down

what a heroine she was :rolleyes:

wonder if she paid for her own milk or just drank what she stole from school kids ;)

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Reminds me of my grandma (who died in 1963 by the way) who when told her neighbour was voting Conservative, said "What's SHE got thats worth conserving?"

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Ya like my old gran said I always vote Tory cuz its no use voting for them as as nout, cuz when they ged it they don't know what to do with it, which I think has been proved time and again:rolleyes:

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I wouldn't be quite so scathing - sounds like she had the typical post-war mentality of most women back then -" waste-not, want-not" which is not a bad thing.

I see they are trying to propose an Austerity-Olympics - don't think it will take off as the Nation is too used to the spend-spend-spend/ think about paying later mentality.:rolleyes:

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That was nowt to some of my comments about the soon to leave us owd cow. but as kids come on here i'm unable to be really scathing.:D

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Just listened to a discussion on Radio 2.

Seems the T.U.C. at their conference, are allowing party packs and T-shirts to be sold for the inevitable death of Margaret Thatcher.

The party packs are labelled 'Ding, Dong, Thatcher's Gone', and contain party poppers, balloons and other celebratory items for when she has passed away.

T-shirts emblazoned with 'Hey Ho, The Witch is Dead.''

No matter what your opinion of this lady is, I find this pretty disgraceful and obscene.

Sadly, they are selling quite well. :(

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No doubt they will be removed shortly and some embarassed official will say it was never endorsed by the TUC.

I fear all pretence at respect for others has now gone in the general spreading of bad-taste which seems to be a feature of western living since it began to follow the American dream...:rolleyes:

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Wonder if you feel sorry for the people whose lives she ruined ? ;)

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Not everybody believes that though, Dave.

I wasn't commenting on her past actions, just the actions that some British people intend to carry out after her demise. Pretty sickening.

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I'm with you Kate.
To celebrate the death of a person shows how far this country has fallen.
Tactless, tasteless and moronic.

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A democratically elected leader, who followed her own path, irrelevant of policy, one of the greatest leaders this county has seen, remember in the 70,s we were a washed up has been of a country, she put us back on world stage!

I protested against thatcher when she was in power, I met her once.

But I too will shed a tear for the iron lady, and agree with those who find it sad that some would celebrate.

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I find the TUC pretty disgraceful and obscene, period:(

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I'm not sure how I feel on this one. I cannot help but consider Thatcherism to be the instigator of the "Greed is Good" mentality which is at the root of the country's descent into it's current state. On the other hand to celebrate someone's death seems somewhat tasteless.

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Sorry when the Tory's left off in 97, they left the strongest economic outlook than any government in history, its whats happened since that's left this country in its current state

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Her policies caused the company I worked for(one of the biggest in the UK) to go under.I survived but my career prospects were halted.
But- the incompetent management deserved it, the militant union leaders deserved it(a strike nearly every week),just a shame thousands of workers had to take the pain.

Whether you agreed with her or not,she had vision, British industry had to sort itself out and stop relying on subsidies or we would go under.
After her no leader or party has had the courage to have that sort of forward plan or to push it through and what has happened-we've slowly gone under!

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The trade unions brought most of it on their own heads, especially with some of their stupid rules, 6 men stood idle waiting for an electrician to change a light bulb, how could factories run efficiently under that system, and make enough money to pay the wages of those idle because of silly union rules.

If we had operated such a system in the Fire Brigade, no fires would have been put out, no lives saved, the man who operates the hydrant key is off sick.

I was a union official in the Fire Brigade Union, there was alway crap coming from the head office, via the district representative with orders sell it to your members, my responce was you lot dreamt it up you sell it to the members.
As for pay rises whilst serving in the F.B., the Labour lot were the most difficult to deal with, always looking for ways to change our conditions of service, 3 half crowns or we change the shift system.

We always fared better when the tories were in power.
Let hope the unions don't go back to running the country again.

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as for one who was jailed because i could not afford to pay my poll tax,i spent 6 weeks in prison,not a police station nick and lost my home when i came out,she deserves nothing she was a self righteous pompous egostistical warmonger,who brought this country to its knees and devastsated the mining community and the coal industry and put thousands out of work,(see the film BRASSED OFF )she made families split up because of money problems and divided families over whether to break the miners strike and be a scvab

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No doubt folks will show up in their thousands for her funeral. As Red Skelton said of the well-attended funeral of L. B. Mayer: "Give the people what they want, and they'll come out for it.";)

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100% Spot on Retlaw.

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So, will you be buying a party pack then, Alan ?

I thought the Poll Tax was an unfair system too, however, never considered the Rates to be fair either. I was a divorced single parent with a young child, living in close proximity in identical property, to larger families with grown up children, but paying the same amount. Hardly fair .... suppose I should have rioted or refused payment too.

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The Poll Tax was wrong Kate, the principle was right the application was totally wrong, if it had have been introduced at £50 per head, still with the safety net for those unable to pay, don't think anybody would have moaned, but at the rate it was introduced it was absolutely stupid, as you say rates aren't fair either but, I doubt anybody will ever find a way of satisfying everybody no matter how they try.

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Agreed.

Hate what she did, if you must, as I certainly did.

Not the woman herself.

It's not usually how the British behave.

It's the sort of manic, effigy burning, giddy hysteria you usually see on the news, when some tin pot dictator's been overthrown, somewhere hot.

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I've no problem with it, it's what she encouraged, do away with our own Manufacturers turn the Country into a service only industry with the odd few making a bit of extra cash from re-packaging and re-distributing cheap Chinese imports, for once I think she'd be proud of the T.U.C.
All is going according to her long term plan.

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Ok.

Your view, and of course you are entitled to it.

Just as you were when you shared your thoughts on Michael Jackson's death.

Which you posted not long after your release from prison, for sexually molesting a child.

It's sad when anyone dies.

Thatcher's children, and grandchildren will miss her.

There's probably someone, somewhere, who'll miss you when you pop your clogs.

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Made me laugh.

Twisted.

Thank you.

Never thought she might be pleased that her death's being turned into a fine example of free market enterprise, and might very well be a nice little boost to the economy.

:rolleyes::p