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Less 23-01-2012 13:58

I'm sick to death with Charities
 
I getting very, very weary of the constant bombardment I'm getting from such a wide variety of Charities.
My letter box never has a day off, if I gave clothes to all the people begging for them I'd die of exposure.
Fortunately my white sack is next to the door so they are a benefit to my recycling.
Next in line are the better known charities that without any notice at all send so called raffle tickets & collection envelopes expecting me to wander the streets doing their job for them, (At the moment the worst of these seem to be age concern & the R.N.L.I), if I want to collect for a charity then I will contact you until then whatever you've sent is white sack fodder.

Then there is the constant nagging that comes in T.V. Adverts lots of children, families and animals all in dire straights each one pleading that I generously donate on average, 'just £3.00', per month.

No I won't if I gave to each of you AccyWeb would have to run an appeal for the downtrodden and starving member with more generosity than sense.

It has started effecting the way I behave when pubs run an appeal for some unfortunate that is terminally ill or in need of a trip to see a specialist,
I just don't want to know anymore because I'm sick and tired of being asked.

It isn't because I'm a skinflint I must have given away a fortune over my lifetime, but now, well, now I just don't want to know anymore my generosity needs a rest, time to recover, the chance to sort the good charities from the bad but unfortunately everyday there seem to be even more jumping on the charity gravy train, just so long as it no longer stops at my station maybe I'll start giving again until then they can all go away, their appeals have lost there appeal.

garinda 23-01-2012 14:14

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On my last three visits to Accy, I'm sick of being approached by those in empoly of charities, whose job is to try and sign you up, and get your bank details off you.

How come when we did a fund raising day, we were told it's illegal to rattle your bucket, or solicit for money, by speaking to people first, yet hoardes of aggressive youngsters are allowed to run up and down Broadway in their green tabards, actively hassling people going about their business?

They used to drive me mad in London, and Glasow.

Who's given them permission to run amok in Accy?

garinda 23-01-2012 14:17

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I'm with Less.

I tend to choose what charities I support.

Rarely are they charities that use emotional blackmail to solicit donations, and never charities who pay their collectors a wage.

Margaret Pilkington 23-01-2012 14:18

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I already support three favourite charities....and when I am approached by these charity people I tell them that my charity purse is empty, but that I do donate cast off clothes to the BHF and the Hospice(I buy stuff from them too when I go in to donate).

I think in the current economic climate the charities are having a tough time....aren't we all? It is time for them to think about what they are paying to their CEO's and perhaps they should be giving some of their time rather than being paid for it.

garinda 23-01-2012 14:22

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 964306)
I'm with Less.

I tend to choose what charities I support.

Rarely are they charities that use emotional blackmail to solicit donations, and never charities who pay their collectors a wage.

Oh, and anyone who disturbs my peace, by knocking on my door, seeking a donation for some charity or other.

They get a polite no thank you.

If they don't accept this, which they've done on a number of occasions, questioning my 'no thanks', they get a rather less charitable suggestion next.

Give, give, give.

I just can't help it.

steve2qec 23-01-2012 14:25

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I once accepted the offer of bag-packing at Asda, I asked the girl what the charity was and she told they were raising money to send a netball team to Spain (or some-such place) for a tournament. As I was committed by this time I felt obliged to "donate"!!
Not my idea of a charity.

garinda 23-01-2012 14:31

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Originally Posted by steve2qec (Post 964310)
I once accepted the offer of bag-packing at Asda, I asked the girl what the charity was and she told they were raising money to send a netball team to Spain (or some-such place) for a tournament. As I was committed by this time I felt obliged to "donate"!!
Not my idea of a charity.

Cheeky cows.

I'd have tipped my oranges out of their net bag, and said...

'Here, I'd like to donate this...for you to practise with'.

steve2qec 23-01-2012 14:43

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 964313)
Cheeky cows.

I'd have tipped my oranges out of their net bag, and said...

'Here, I'd like to donate this...for you to practise with'.

Didn't think of that at the time - too busy trying to find enough 2's & 1's to make it sound like a generous donation.

mobertol 23-01-2012 15:14

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I also choose who I donate to and support. Had no idea i was illegal to "rattle tins" to catch peoples atention -seems a bit extreme! My last "active" donation was in Accy Library for 3 poppies in October, and my usual Unicef Xmas cards.

Here in Italy they can't come door to door unless you've agreed to a donation beforehand over the phone, which means constant calls where I say "no" and am frequently made to feel mean. I have a new tactic which is to speak to them in English and pretend I can't understand!

Gordon Booth 23-01-2012 15:24

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Originally Posted by mobertol (Post 964341)
I have a new tactic which is to speak to them in English and pretend I can't understand!

What a good idea, mobertol! Next time they pester me I'll speak to them in Italian!
Hold on- just one problem!
What's Italian for something a bit stronger than 'Go away'.

maxthecollie 23-01-2012 15:31

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Charity is charity. How much of the donations go to the''administrators''?

Less 23-01-2012 15:43

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Originally Posted by maxthecollie (Post 964363)
Charity is charity. How much of the donations go to the''administrators''?

If I remember correctly, anyone can register a charity, then anything upto Accringtons famous 95% of the monies collected can be pocketed as 'Administration expenses', with a measely 5p in the pound actually going to help the so called needy, nice work if you can get it, especilly if you can get some mug volunteer to freeze on a street corner collecting it for you.

garinda 23-01-2012 15:46

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Charity begins at home.

At home in Emmerdale, with the other Dingles.

cashman 23-01-2012 16:11

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I have always donated to charities.......... Those of my own personal choice, the leaflets through the door,bags,Tickets sent through the mail "ALL" go straight in the recycle bin n anyone calls i tell em so simple as.

Eric 23-01-2012 16:37

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Are charitable donations tax deductable for you guys over there?

Gordon Booth 23-01-2012 16:40

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 964428)
Are charitable donations tax deductable for you guys over there?

They can be if you sign a form but the charity gets the tax back, not the donor.

Less 23-01-2012 17:00

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 964428)
Are charitable donations tax deductable for you guys over there?

Do you get a constant plucking at the heart strings about starving people, sick animals and adopt a snow leapord over there or is this kind of blackmail only tolerated on British television?

maxthecollie 23-01-2012 17:08

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I do volunteer work for the Pets as Therapy charity. I assess dogs and cats to see if their temperament is alright for hospital and other places to visit.

Eric 23-01-2012 17:15

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 964445)
Do you get a constant plucking at the heart strings about starving people, sick animals and adopt a snow leapord over there or is this kind of blackmail only tolerated on British television?

Yeah ... we get that stuff too. And I have to admit that I do feel sympathy. But I can't afford to give to everything; and I do know that some charities are more reliable and effective than others. And I also know that Canada spends billions in foreign aid, and that this aid comes from the Canadian taxpayer. Whenever there is a natural disaster ... Haiti comes to mind; we gave large there ... Canadians, whether they like it or not, step up with the bucks. When I donate, I try to do it locally: I donate to the Kingston Humane Society, clothes and toys for kids at Christmas, the Partners in Mission Food Bank, and the Sally Anne. I recieve official receipts for my donations and I can submit these with my income tax as a portion of the donations is tax deductible.

Less 23-01-2012 17:57

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Originally Posted by maxthecollie (Post 964447)
I do volunteer work for the Pets as Therapy charity. I assess dogs and cats to see if their temperament is alright for hospital and other places to visit.

All power to your elbow for taking time out for that, but this isn't really a, 'I deserve a pat on the head because I'm a good boy', sort of thread.
What I would do however is make sure you aren't being taken for a mug check what they publicly declare in case it turns out there is only you that does owt for nowt'.
:)

mobertol 23-01-2012 19:02

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 964428)
Are charitable donations tax deductable for you guys over there?

Here in Italy we can sign a sort of covenant on our tax returns -mine usually goes towards assistance for natural disasters, Earthquakes, landslides etc in Italy.

Last year I gave it to a vet I know who has set up a research group locally into the breeding of animals for organ donation.

A tax return on other charity donations I've never heard of...

janloot 23-01-2012 19:12

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there was a great saying, "charity begins at home" or words to that effect, seems to make more sense to me.

garinda 23-01-2012 19:25

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When I'm sat outside a shop, waiting patiently for Mummy, I get sick to death of people trying to post coins through a slot in my head.

http://www.funkypancake.com/blog/ima...5462-thumb.jpg

MargaretR 23-01-2012 22:03

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Originally Posted by mobertol (Post 964541)
Last year I gave it to a vet I know who has set up a research group locally into the breeding of animals for organ donation.

:eek: I suppose the Italians don't have a branch of the Anti Vivsection League:eek:
NAVS : Home

That sort of donation would bring you trouble here.

Eric 24-01-2012 05:40

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Originally Posted by mobertol (Post 964541)
Here in Italy we can sign a sort of covenant on our tax returns -mine usually goes towards assistance for natural disasters, Earthquakes, landslides etc in Italy.

Last year I gave it to a vet I know who has set up a research group locally into the breeding of animals for organ donation.

A tax return on other charity donations I've never heard of...

As long as the charity is registered as "Official", or some such nonesense, and issues you an official receipt, you can claim. You can also claim part of your donations to a political party.

What I can't understand is why charity is necessary in wealthy countries such as the UK. Too many folks are being left behind. Too few have too much. The UK, like the US, has a massive gap between the poor and the wealthy. In England there is little social mobility, and this is exacerbated by the obvious class differnces. Most social problems have their roots in this inequality. Watch out for riots in major cities this summer. Those who have nothing to lose have everything to gain. The greed of the "haves" is probably what will precipitate a crisis. It happened in France in 1787. Charity is not enough. Equality and social mobility is what is needed. One only has to look at Denmark, for example, to see this.

garinda 24-01-2012 06:43

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 964662)
As long as the charity is registered as "Official", or some such nonesense, and issues you an official receipt, you can claim. You can also claim part of your donations to a political party.

What I can't understand is why charity is necessary in wealthy countries such as the UK. Too many folks are being left behind. Too few have too much. The UK, like the US, has a massive gap between the poor and the wealthy. In England there is little social mobility, and this is exacerbated by the obvious class differnces. Most social problems have their roots in this inequality. Watch out for riots in major cities this summer. Those who have nothing to lose have everything to gain. The greed of the "haves" is probably what will precipitate a crisis. It happened in France in 1787. Charity is not enough. Equality and social mobility is what is needed. One only has to look at Denmark, for example, to see this.

Think you've been away too long.

Last summers riots and looting attracted people across the social scale.

There were many prosecutions of people who came from backgrounds where they had good lifestyles, including many who were privately educated.

Same thing at our annual May Day riots, and most protests nowadays, there's very much a middle class weighting.

Which means that it's really nothing to do with 'poverty', or social mobility.

Mick 24-01-2012 06:52

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The ....lets say older members of the site will remember taking little brown envelopes home to fill with 1d and threepenny bits and sixpences for a charity these are still going now this has been going for over 50 years from my knowledge so they must have had billions of pounds over the years and still they ask for more so just where has all that money gone as the country they where supposed to benefit is no different now as it was then.

flashy 24-01-2012 07:42

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my sister looks after adults with challenging, learning, mental and physical disabilities, she once told me never to give money to charities to help people with these disabilities because the amount of state benefits they receive is enormous, the ladies that Kelly looks after have thousands in the bank, money the ladies don't know how to/need to spend, they already have everything they need

AccyMad 24-01-2012 10:19

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Originally Posted by flashy (Post 964676)
my sister looks after adults with challenging, learning, mental and physical disabilities, she once told me never to give money to charities to help people with these disabilities because the amount of state benefits they receive is enormous, the ladies that Kelly looks after have thousands in the bank, money the ladies don't know how to/need to spend, they already have everything they need

I can't believe that someone in this line of work has spoken about the finances of the people in their care, to anyone outside of their work environment - sorry but that is most unprofessional.

Margaret Pilkington 24-01-2012 10:30

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I can remember coming home with little books of pictures of children....babies, smiling girls. cheeky faced boys. We were told to sell these pictures for a penny or twopence and bring the money into school and it would go towards feeding these orphans and disadvantaged children.

Despite the fact that we were poor, we always cent some money back with the stubs of the books.
Ma used to give sixpence a week to the Catholic Church too, for their missionary work.

She used to say that although we had very little, there were lots of children who had even less.

Less 24-01-2012 11:09

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Originally Posted by AccyMad (Post 964725)
I can't believe that someone in this line of work has spoken about the finances of the people in their care, to anyone outside of their work environment - sorry but that is most unprofessional.

What can you believe then?

No actual person was named, it was what we sensible folk call a generalisation, just as a Lawyer or a Doctor can talk about their experiences or knowledge they have gained within their professions without actually having to betray any confidences.

mobertol 24-01-2012 11:17

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 964633)
:eek: I suppose the Italians don't have a branch of the Anti Vivsection League:eek:
NAVS : Home

That sort of donation would bring you trouble here.

The following link explains their research and work -you can read it in English. They do some of our embryo work on the farm (the cow in the photo is one of ours). Cesare is a pioneering clonation scientist -he cloned the first horse, Prometea, to give birth to a son, Pegasus.

His work for organ donation is with pigs -I have no problem with eating meat and if a pig's liver could help to prolong or save a person's life that's OK by me. Their work is centered on the culturing and growth of the organs in the laboratory thus avoiding un-necessary animal death.

http://www.avantea.it/

They are a registered charity and have never had problems with Anti-vivisectionists, as far as I know, as they don't kill animals in their research.

mobertol 24-01-2012 11:25

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 964731)
I can remember coming home with little books of pictures of children....babies, smiling girls. cheeky faced boys. We were told to sell these pictures for a penny or twopence and bring the money into school and it would go towards feeding these orphans and disadvantaged children.

Despite the fact that we were poor, we always cent some money back with the stubs of the books.
Ma used to give sixpence a week to the Catholic Church too, for their missionary work.

She used to say that although we had very little, there were lots of children who had even less.

We used to have exactly the same thing Margaret at junior school -it was called St. Joseph's penny.

These days I think that charity really is better kept close to home - where maybe you can see some of the effects in your local community and for local people. Too often all this money given for overseas and to large organisations just seems to disappear without any trace of improvement where it was meant to go.

There's often a feeling that it's just another kind of business.

mobertol 24-01-2012 11:26

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 964731)
I can remember coming home with little books of pictures of children....babies, smiling girls. cheeky faced boys. We were told to sell these pictures for a penny or twopence and bring the money into school and it would go towards feeding these orphans and disadvantaged children.

Despite the fact that we were poor, we always cent some money back with the stubs of the books.
Ma used to give sixpence a week to the Catholic Church too, for their missionary work.

She used to say that although we had very little, there were lots of children who had even less.

We used to have exactly the same thing Margaret at junior school -it was called St. Joseph's penny.

These days I think that charity really is better kept close to home - where maybe you can see some of the effects in your local community and for local people. Too often all this money given for overseas and to large organisations just seems to disappear without any trace of improvement where it was meant to go.

There's often a feeling that it's just another kind of business.

cashman 24-01-2012 15:11

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Thats St Josephs tuppence Di, yeh done it twice.:)

garinda 24-01-2012 15:36

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Originally Posted by mobertol (Post 964760)
We used to have exactly the same thing Margaret at junior school -it was called St. Joseph's penny.

These days I think that charity really is better kept close to home - where maybe you can see some of the effects in your local community and for local people. Too often all this money given for overseas and to large organisations just seems to disappear without any trace of improvement where it was meant to go.

There's often a feeling that it's just another kind of business.

Our little books, in which you bought a kiddy, was called Sunny Smiles.

They never gave you enough darkies. They were good sellers. White kids with lazy eyes were harder to shift.

We also had the Junior Missionary Association. You collected donations from people weekly, and put the money in a church shaped box, which was opened once a year, and used to teach the little piccaninnies about Jesus, and to be good Methodists.

Praise the Lord.

mobertol 24-01-2012 15:42

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Originally Posted by mobertol (Post 964761)
We used to have exactly the same thing Margaret at junior school -it was called St. Joseph's penny.

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My dad - always maintained that St. Joseph's Penny was really for the Nun's gin money :rolleyes::D

Have always wondered whether the missions really do as much good as they make out - presumably education in poorer countries is a good thing but I don't like the fact that it is closely tied to religious indoctrination.

I always think of the film "The Mission" which tells such a terrible story.

mobertol 24-01-2012 15:46

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 964823)
Our little books, in which you bought a kiddy, was called Sunny Smiles.

They never gave you enough darkies. They were good sellers. White kids with lazy eyes were harder to shift.

Trust you to remember that!

I wonder what people actually did with them once they'd bought them?

Stick them in scrap book and build up a rainbow family like Brangelina perhaps;):p:):D:o:(:mad::rolleyes:

garinda 24-01-2012 15:59

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Originally Posted by mobertol (Post 964824)
My dad - always maintained that St. Joseph's Penny was really for the Nun's gin money :rolleyes::D

Have always wondered whether the missions really do as much good as they make out - presumably education in poorer countries is a good thing but I don't like the fact that it is closely tied to religious indoctrination.

I always think of the film "The Mission" which tells such a terrible story.

New Sunday night period drama, just started.

BBC One - Call the Midwife, Episode 1

Based on a real midewife's books.

The nuns there are nice, on the whole, and did a good job for those in need.

mobertol 24-01-2012 16:06

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 964835)
New Sunday night period drama, just started.

BBC One - Call the Midwife, Episode 1

Based on a real midewife's books.

The nuns there are nice, on the whole, and did a good job for those in need.

Have you seen the film "Magdalene" based on a true story in Ireland -scarey story! Different times, different mentalities.

New drama looks interesting, will have to wait for DVD, as usual!

garinda 24-01-2012 16:12

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Originally Posted by mobertol (Post 964837)
Have you seen the film "Magdalene" based on a true story in Ireland -scarey story! Different times, different mentalities.

New drama looks interesting, will have to wait for DVD, as usual!

Yes, I actually watched it again, the other week.

Heartbreaking.

Mind you, that just didn't happen in Catholic Ireland.

Some poor girls spent their lives in local institutions, just because they became pregnant out of wedlock, and were locked away for life, labelled as sexual degenerates.

Less 24-01-2012 17:51

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Originally Posted by mobertol (Post 964754)
The following link explains their research and work -you can read it in English. They do some of our embryo work on the farm (the cow in the photo is one of ours). Cesare is a pioneering clonation scientist -he cloned the first horse, Prometea, to give birth to a son, Pegasus.

His work for organ donation is with pigs -I have no problem with eating meat and if a pig's liver could help to prolong or save a person's life that's OK by me. Their work is centered on the culturing and growth of the organs in the laboratory thus avoiding un-necessary animal death.

http://www.avantea.it/

They are a registered charity and have never had problems with Anti-vivisectionists, as far as I know, as they don't kill animals in their research.

Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, for answering that, I was Sooooo, tempted to have yet another go at her pathetic little, (was it a threat? Is she the one with the zimmer frame & ski mask?), attempt on your beliefs, go for it girl I love pork scratching, any by-product from that which will elongate a human life I'm all for.

Please excuse me one of my rabbits has awoken from the effects of the stun gun I'm testing, I'll have to attack it's eye's with this deoderant I'm checking for swine flu'.

MargaretR 24-01-2012 18:08

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I have no objection to you having a pig organ transplant should you need one.
There should be no rejection problem for you since you have admitted to living like one.

I did not express my own views on the matter of vivisection - was just surprised that it was being done openly in Italy, whereas here it does tend to get done 'on the quiet'.

Margaret Pilkington 24-01-2012 18:11

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 964835)
New Sunday night period drama, just started.

BBC One - Call the Midwife, Episode 1

Based on a real midewife's books.

The nuns there are nice, on the whole, and did a good job for those in need.

I am not much of a fan of TV.......but this is my favourite program of the moment.......and Joy of Joys, they have commissioned a second series.
I enjoyed the book immensely and usually TV programs fail to meet my expectations...not this one.
Miranda Hart is absolutely spot on for the part of Chummy.
If you haven't watched this series yet.......I implore you....please settle down to an hour of enjoyment next Sunday....BBC1 8pm.

Less 24-01-2012 18:14

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 964861)
I have no objection to you having a pig organ transplant should you need one.
There should be no rejection problem for you since you have admitted to living like one.

I did not express my own views on the matter of vivisection - was just surprised that it was being done openly in Italy, whereas here it does tend to get done 'on the quiet'.

Oh diddums, do I feel yet another severe learning curve from being put on your ignore list?

Why not do yourself a favour, just ignore AccyWeb, nothing on here suits your mind set.

garinda 24-01-2012 18:26

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 964863)
I am not much of a fan of TV.......but this is my favourite program of the moment.......and Joy of Joys, they have commissioned a second series.
I enjoyed the book immensely and usually TV programs fail to meet my expectations...not this one.
Miranda Hart is absolutely spot on for the part of Chummy.
If you haven't watched this series yet.......I implore you....please settle down to an hour of enjoyment next Sunday....BBC1 8pm.

When I watched it, I was wondering if you, and Lettie, were watching it too, and what you thought.

Glad you approve. I think it's very good.

Seems odd, describing something set in the mid-fifties as 'period'. Things have changed, but it's not that long ago. These young midwifes would have helped train you, fifteen or so years later.

Haven't read the books, but will now.

Heard there was some criticism, from people saying the east end wasn't that grim.

Perhaps it wasn't if you were one of two children.

Different story if you were one of fourteen, with a dad who liked a pint or ten, on the way home from the docks.

Miranda Hart was fabulous as Chummy. Deserving of some prize, I think.

mobertol 24-01-2012 18:27

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 964859)
Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, for answering that, I was Sooooo, tempted to have yet another go at her pathetic little, (was it a threat? Is she the one with the zimmer frame & ski mask?), attempt on your beliefs, go for it girl I love pork scratching, any by-product from that which will elongate a human life I'm all for.

Please excuse me one of my rabbits has awoken from the effects of the stun gun I'm testing, I'll have to attack it's eye's with this deoderant I'm checking for swine flu'.

Oh dear me, Less -what a laugh! A triple thank you almost stopped me from being Soooooo annoyed by your new moving clowns - so much so that for a milli-second i thought their noses were a bunch of hearts aimed at me - bag of pork scratchings in the post for Valentine's day!;):D

Afterthought: think it's time you sent me some karma you mean "Barsteward "-i've sent you some several times and you've never even acknowledged it - you could get labelled a Grumpy Old Man if you're not careful.

mobertol 24-01-2012 18:31

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Double recommendation for the new series -will definitely order it now.

Along with Birdsong which mum has told me about -you have no idea how frustrating it is to be missing out.

Less 24-01-2012 18:38

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Originally Posted by mobertol (Post 964874)
Oh dear me, Less -what a laugh! A triple thank you almost stopped me from being Soooooo annoyed by your new moving clowns - so much so that for a milli-second i thought their noses were a bunch of hearts aimed at me - bag of pork scratchings in the post for Valentine's day!;):D

Afterthought: think it's time you sent me some karma you mean "Barsteward "-i've sent you some several times and you've never even acknowledged it - you could get labelled a Grumpy Old Man if you're not careful.

Allow me to apologise my dyslexia must have crept in, I read the post again, you did ask for red roses, somehow I thought RED noses!

mobertol 24-01-2012 18:41

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 964881)
Allow me to apologise my dyslexia must have crept in, I read the post again, you did ask for red roses, somehow I thought RED noses!

Cute Less, very cute -you might even get some karma for that...let me think about it for a little while!:rolleyes::D

Less 24-01-2012 18:50

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Originally Posted by mobertol (Post 964883)
Cute Less, very cute -you might even get some karma for that...let me think about it for a little while!:rolleyes::D

Think as much as you wish try and tempt me with a teasing amount of extra karma, however, I have earned my karma points both red & green no amount of teasing OR complaining will get me to give it you unless it's deserved.
You will know when you've posted something worthwhile, then I'll give it you.

cashman 24-01-2012 19:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 964889)
Think as much as you wish try and tempt me with a teasing amount of extra karma, however, I have earned my karma points both red & green no amount of teasing OR complaining will get me to give it you unless it's deserved.
You will know when you've posted something worthwhile, then I'll give it you.

Which is why hes never give me any.:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

Less 24-01-2012 19:49

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 964896)
Which is why hes never give me any.:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

Nah, I've met you, I just couldn't be charitable enough to give you one.

(Phew, managed to get back on thread).

mobertol 24-01-2012 20:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 964889)
Think as much as you wish try and tempt me with a teasing amount of extra karma, however, I have earned my karma points both red & green no amount of teasing OR complaining will get me to give it you unless it's deserved.
You will know when you've posted something worthwhile, then I'll give it you.

Couldn't give you any Karma today as I've given it to Garinda and Flashy already -am feeling a bit sad that you couldn't give some to me:rolleyes:

Three thank-you's seemed quite feat -obviously have to try harder , and yet you are obviously thinking of me, even though you confused the red roses...

I live in hope....:rolleyes::D

PS I never complain.

Must write to Agony Aunt Less...

lettie 24-01-2012 21:02

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 964873)
When I watched it, I was wondering if you, and Lettie, were watching it too, and what you thought.

Glad you approve. I think it's very good.

Seems odd, describing something set in the mid-fifties as 'period'. Things have changed, but it's not that long ago. These young midwifes would have helped train you, fifteen or so years later.

Miranda Hart was fabulous as Chummy. Deserving of some prize, I think.

I had to watch the first one on the I Player as I was working when it was on. To be honest, people do still live in horrible dirt and deprivation. I did nearly 10 years on the community within Hyndburn and can honestly say that there is so much poverty round here it is unbelievable.
I believe that Jennifer Worth (the Author), before she died, wrote to Miranda Hart and personally asked her to play the part of Chummy as she had so strongly reminded her of Chummy.
Although things have moved on a bit I still remember being taken to Canon St clinic in Accy where they did everything behind curtains. I remember going with my mum. I also remember giving soap and water enemas for bowel prep but mostly on the general side and yes, we gave them 'high, hot and helluva lot.' :D

Eric 25-01-2012 13:23

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 964668)
Think you've been away too long.

Last summers riots and looting attracted people across the social scale.

There were many prosecutions of people who came from backgrounds where they had good lifestyles, including many who were privately educated.

Same thing at our annual May Day riots, and most protests nowadays, there's very much a middle class weighting.

Which means that it's really nothing to do with 'poverty', or social mobility.

Of course there is "middle class weighting"; all decent revolutionary movements come from the middle class. The middle class has revolutions; the great unwashed have revolts ... as in "The peasants are revolting";)

Margaret Pilkington 25-01-2012 14:06

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Lettie, can I ask you if the midwife Jessica reminds you of anyone in particular?

susie123 25-01-2012 14:18

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 964456)
Yeah ... we get that stuff too. And I have to admit that I do feel sympathy. But I can't afford to give to everything; and I do know that some charities are more reliable and effective than others. And I also know that Canada spends billions in foreign aid, and that this aid comes from the Canadian taxpayer. Whenever there is a natural disaster ... Haiti comes to mind; we gave large there ... Canadians, whether they like it or not, step up with the bucks. When I donate, I try to do it locally: I donate to the Kingston Humane Society, clothes and toys for kids at Christmas, the Partners in Mission Food Bank, and the Sally Anne. I recieve official receipts for my donations and I can submit these with my income tax as a portion of the donations is tax deductible.

Yes donations are tax deductible in that you sign a form and the charity gets however much tax you would have paid on that amount. For many years we were very hard up and didn't give at all but recently our finances have improved and at Christmas instead of buying presents we have donated, in alternate years to charities at home and abroad. But I do agree with what you said in a previous post Eric that charities in developed countries are something that we shouldn't need now.

Another reason we did not give to charity was that when my dad died in 1994 he left most of his money to my stepmother, who was already comfortably off in her own right. The day he died she saw her solicitor, we think to alter her will, and when she died, all her money went to charity. My dad's solicitor told me that originally her will would have left my dad's money to myself and my siblings on her death and would have advised my dad differently had she known how much my stepmother disliked us. So I reckon we have done a fair bit of charity contributing involuntarily.

garinda 25-01-2012 14:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 965092)
Of course there is "middle class weighting"; all decent revolutionary movements come from the middle class. The middle class has revolutions; the great unwashed have revolts ... as in "The peasants are revolting";)

Last summer's shenanigans weren't revolutionary.

They were criminal acts of violence, and looting, in which decent people feared for their lives.

jaysay 25-01-2012 18:05

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I hate having to catch up, but having organised a branch of a national charity, I would say that before anybody makes a donation take a look at their annual financial report, there's usually an interesting section under salaries, I say no more. I only support 3 charities Asthma UK, Osteoporosis society, and the Christie, of which I'm a patron

lettie 25-01-2012 19:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 965098)
Lettie, can I ask you if the midwife Jessica reminds you of anyone in particular?

I figure that from your question you have somebody in mind Margaret?? I can recognise some of the character traits from all of them and see them in my colleagues. The Pam Ferris character reminds me of some of the old, long retired midwives who I have worked with. They had a wealth of knowledge but spoke their minds, sometimes it seemed to be unkind but it was always in the women's best interests.

Margaret Pilkington 25-01-2012 19:40

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Yes, How astute of you Lettie.....the midwifery sister she reminds me of had the initials A.P.(I don't want to put her name on the forum incase she sees it and thinks I am out of order).
This was my impression after the first episode and it was reinforced by the second episode.
I like this particular midwifery sister very much...she seemed to be down to earth, could tell it like it was(didn't mince her words) but had loads of common sense and compassion.
It made me think of her and wonder where she is now.
Yes I know what you mean about the Pam Ferris character......and the Jenny Agutter one too.

lettie 26-01-2012 04:19

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A.P. was my mentor and I can definitely see what you mean. I haven't seen her for ages but I believe she is well. I can ask some of her old friends if they have heard from her but I am going to be off work for a few weeks now. Had the Gallbladder whipped out on Monday, it was all a bit of a drama and had to be done as an emergency but I'm ok, just won't be in work for a bit.

Now that I will be at home for a bit, I'll probably notice all the charity folks that come to your house during the day. (Pathetic attempt to get back on thread:o).

garinda 26-01-2012 06:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lettie (Post 965266)
A.P. was my mentor and I can definitely see what you mean. I haven't seen her for ages but I believe she is well. I can ask some of her old friends if they have heard from her but I am going to be off work for a few weeks now. Had the Gallbladder whipped out on Monday, it was all a bit of a drama and had to be done as an emergency but I'm ok, just won't be in work for a bit.

Now that I will be at home for a bit, I'll probably notice all the charity folks that come to your house during the day. (Pathetic attempt to get back on thread:o).

Hope you're ok, and soon recover hun. x

He said, charitably.

(So he wouldn't be accused of going off thread.)

:D

lettie 26-01-2012 09:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 965271)
Hope you're ok, and soon recover hun. x

He said, charitably.

(So he wouldn't be accused of going off thread.)

:D

Thanks Rindy, I'll be fine. Funnily enough, I've just been to get our post and found one of those charity collection bags (the ones we all use as bin liners) with the post... I bet I notice this most days now lol..:)

mobertol 26-01-2012 14:20

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 965106)
Last summer's shenanigans weren't revolutionary.

They were criminal acts of violence, and looting, in which decent people feared for their lives.

Some actually lost their lives, homes and liveliehoods, in the name of other people's greed for luxuries.

mobertol 26-01-2012 14:29

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Originally Posted by lettie (Post 965293)
Thanks Rindy, I'll be fine. Funnily enough, I've just been to get our post and found one of those charity collection bags (the ones we all use as bin liners) with the post... I bet I notice this most days now lol..:)

All these "bin liners" must be costing the charities a fair amount and taking up a lot of time to deliver. Must be worth their while though or they would stop sending them surely.:confused:

Eric 26-01-2012 15:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mobertol (Post 965322)
Some actually lost their lives, homes and liveliehoods, in the name of other people's greed for luxuries.

I'm a little confused here, hon:confused: Seriously. Those people who are "greed[y] for luxuries. Are they the rioters? Or the top one per cent?

Margaret Pilkington 26-01-2012 17:22

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The top one percent can go out and buy the goods they want. The rioters stole the goods, and in the pursuit of designer trainers and such like material things, put lives in danger.
I know your post was probably tongue in cheek(or at least I think it was).
Some of the rioters came from homes and backgrounds where they could afford to buy the goods too(privileged back grounds).....so it wasn't down to poverty.
I really don't think it was political either. It was a case of opportunism......it was still criminal opportunism though.

MargaretR 26-01-2012 17:35

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Even the children of bankers and stock market traders participated.:rolleyes:;)

Dishonesty and greed features in all social classes.

jaysay 26-01-2012 17:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 965343)
Even the children of bankers and stock market traders participated.:rolleyes:;)

Dishonesty and greed features in all social classes.

That wasn't Dishonesty and greed, it was, like a lot of soiled brat kids do, stick two fingers up to mummy and daddy;)

jaysay 26-01-2012 17:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mobertol (Post 965323)
All these "bin liners" must be costing the charities a fair amount and taking up a lot of time to deliver. Must be worth their while though or they would stop sending them surely.:confused:

They get the postman to deliver um now mobertol:eek:

MargaretR 26-01-2012 17:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 965347)
That wasn't Dishonesty and greed, it was, like a lot of soiled brat kids do, stick two fingers up to mummy and daddy;)

A tory response that -

Members of the Bullingdon club weren't vandals either were they?:rolleyes:- they were just smashing up restaurants for fun to annoy mummy and daddy.

There is as much greed and theft going on in the 'upper classes' but most have been educated on how to conceal it, or can bribe their way out of it when caught.

jaysay 26-01-2012 18:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 965355)
A tory response that -

Members of the Bullingdon club weren't vandals either were they?:rolleyes:- they were just smashing up restaurants for fun to annoy mummy and daddy.

There is as much greed and theft going on in the 'upper classes' but most have been educated on how to conceal it, or can bribe their way out of it when caught.

I really do think you've got a slate loose.

Eric 26-01-2012 18:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 965362)
I really do think you've got a slate loose.

You aren't thinking, you are using un-thought-out biases because you don't seem to be able to come up with a reasoned response to what is an apt comment.

Gordon Booth 26-01-2012 18:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 965371)
You aren't thinking, you are using un-thought-out biases because you don't seem to be able to come up with a reasoned response to what is an apt comment.

Are you suggesting jaysay has an un-thought-out bias?
How dare you! I'm sure all jaysays biases are well thought out!

cashman 26-01-2012 18:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 965378)
Are you suggesting jaysay has an un-thought-out bias?
How dare you! I'm sure all jaysays biases are well thought out!

Impossible.:hehetable

jaysay 26-01-2012 18:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 965379)
Impossible.:hehetable

Thanks mate:)

MargaretR 26-01-2012 18:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 965382)
Thanks mate:)

I think that went over his head too:D
Ignorance is bliss

Gordon Booth 26-01-2012 19:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 965385)
I think that went over his head too

Don't be deceived, MargaretR, I don't think much goes over jaysays head, he just likes you to think it does!

jaysay 27-01-2012 09:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 965403)
Don't be deceived, MargaretR, I don't think much goes over jaysays head, he just likes you to think it does!

Me thinks Margaret has a lot to learn about jaysay Gordon, he's not as daft as Margaret thinks he is, mainly because he sussed her out many moons ago;)

jaysay 27-01-2012 09:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 965385)
I think that went over his head too:D
Ignorance is bliss

You may have noticed which smiley I used:rolleyes:

Gordon Booth 27-01-2012 10:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 965493)
Me thinks Margaret has a lot to learn about jaysay Gordon, he's not as daft as Margaret thinks he is, mainly because he sussed her out many moons ago;)

Careful, you're getting in the 'Groove'!

MargaretR 27-01-2012 11:36

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Since jaysay and I have never met his 'suss' of me is constructed from his prejudices, typecasting, and the limitations of his intelligence.

I have not 'sussed' him - it is not important for me to find out how his mind works. I doubt that such exploration would be a revelation.

Less 27-01-2012 12:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 965506)
Since jaysay and I have never met his 'suss' of me is constructed from his prejudices, typecasting, and the limitations of his intelligence.

I have not 'sussed' him - it is not important for me to find out how his mind works. I doubt that such exploration would be a revelation.

My words, but you are a bitter person, (that is a charitable description),
Are you lacking essential minerals?
Perhaps a course of pink sea salt would perk you up enough so that at least you resemble something living even if not human.
Why not stick to your many hypochondria sites they must bring you far more pleasure than anything this site can do.

Eric 27-01-2012 13:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 965378)
Are you suggesting jaysay has an un-thought-out bias?
How dare you! I'm sure all jaysays biases are well thought out!

It's a clumsy way of expressing what I meant ... but I kinda like jaysay; so, I tried to keep it sort of moderate;)

mobertol 27-01-2012 14:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 965516)
...



After our recent episode of an Accyweb "quiz-mance" it appears there may be a budding new "Accyweb-mance" - with the approach of Valentine's day it would seem that love is in the air!:rolleyes::D

mobertol 27-01-2012 14:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 965330)
I'm a little confused here, hon:confused: Seriously. Those people who are "greed[y] for luxuries. Are they the rioters? Or the top one per cent?

Upon hearing that the peasants were barefoot, the top one percent said "Let them raid Footlockers and have the latest Nike trainers!";)

Or as Marie Antoinette also said :

"There is nothing new except what has been forgotten":rolleyes:

She did lose her head shortly after - can't quite see History repeating itself in this case though:D

jaysay 27-01-2012 17:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mobertol (Post 965528)
After our recent episode of an Accyweb "quiz-mance" it appears there may be a budding new "Accyweb-mance" - with the approach of Valentine's day it would seem that love is in the air!:rolleyes::D

:knife::whack::flamethro:uzi::spank::globwhore:swe ar8::bangh8::icon_argu
Think you got that one wrong mobertol:D:D

jaysay 27-01-2012 17:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 965506)
Since jaysay and I have never met his 'suss' of me is constructed from his prejudices, typecasting, and the limitations of his intelligence.

I have not 'sussed' him - it is not important for me to find out how his mind works. I doubt that such exploration would be a revelation.

I don't have to meet somebody to suss out that they're barking;)

Eric 27-01-2012 23:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 965567)
:knife::whack::flamethro:uzi::spank::globwhore:swe ar8::bangh8::icon_argu
Think you got that one wrong mobertol:D:D

Wow ... that's quite a response; somebody give you a wedgie;):D

MUMMIBOO 03-02-2012 08:12

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Makes me laugh when we get the bags through the door collecting clothes for the starving people in less fortunate country's! Tell you what if they can fit in my clothes they are certainly not starving!! :)

garinda 08-03-2012 18:25

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 964304)
On my last three visits to Accy, I'm sick of being approached by those in empoly of charities, whose job is to try and sign you up, and get your bank details off you.

How come when we did a fund raising day, we were told it's illegal to rattle your bucket, or solicit for money, by speaking to people first, yet hoardes of aggressive youngsters are allowed to run up and down Broadway in their green tabards, actively hassling people going about their business?

They used to drive me mad in London, and Glasow.

Who's given them permission to run amok in Accy?

'Charity muggers' to be banned from Accrington town centre (From Lancashire Telegraph)

Good.

Well done H.B.C.

They were out in force on Broadway on Tuesday.

It is hard to be civil, when saying no thank you for the seventh time, when approached by these hard sell, charity muggers.

Can't come too soon.

lancsdave 08-03-2012 18:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 976203)
'Charity muggers' to be banned from Accrington town centre (From Lancashire Telegraph)

Good.

Well done H.B.C.

They were out in force on Broadway on Tuesday.

It is hard to be civil, when saying no thank you for the seventh time, when approached by these hard sell, charity muggers.

Can't come too soon.


If they are clever enough they will just stand with a can of beer or a few drugs in their hand, they won't get shifted then

garinda 08-03-2012 19:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 976210)
If they are clever enough they will just stand with a can of beer or a few drugs in their hand, they won't get shifted then

:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

Well, as you say, they would have to stand.

Nowhere to park their backsides.

Seeing as benches are in short supply.

Retlaw 08-03-2012 20:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 976203)
'Charity muggers' to be banned from Accrington town centre (From Lancashire Telegraph)

Good.

Well done H.B.C.

They were out in force on Broadway on Tuesday.

It is hard to be civil, when saying no thank you for the seventh time, when approached by these hard sell, charity muggers.

Can't come too soon.

Surely they can be identfied by the street camera's, all it would need then is for a copper to show his face, or is that to much trouble these days.

garinda 08-03-2012 21:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Retlaw (Post 976241)
Surely they can be identfied by the street camera's, all it would need then is for a copper to show his face, or is that to much trouble these days.

These chuggers would have needed a license to be here, which would have been issued by the council.

Thankfully this seems to be coming to and end.

Less 12-03-2012 09:19

Is there no end to money grabbers trying to take our cash?

Now it seems the Bible Society want us to send them four pounds a month so we can give the poor in China their very on copy of this book.
If the only thing missing from the Chinese poor peoples lives is the word of the Lord, then compared with the starving in Africa they are indeed blessed.
Africa has been force fed the word by missionary's for centuries, it doesn't seem to have done them any good.

Guinness 13-11-2015 19:26

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Old thread but IMO it's got relevant again...

We got the woman with the unpronounceable name who dresses like a hanging basket allegedly dishing money out to the wrong people....we got a charity which is spending its tin rattled collection money intent on taking the NHS to court unless it gets its own way (does anyone expect that when they put money in a tin it will be used for this and not to ease suffering????)..we have a disabled woman who has sold poppies for years, raised thousands and is pilloried, in public, by jobsworths because she carries a 'float' where she offers to give change to people who only have notes in their pocket.

Don't even get me started on the RSPCA and how much of your cash goes in admin/management costs, or how some charities are making so much money that they give their staff bonuses year on year, pour millions into websites, social media, tv adverts and flyers because they are not allowed to profit, yet still rattle their tins outside supermarkets asking for more...

Tonight it's the annual tug at your heartstrings night, where a TV station paid for by you, is sponsored by various companies getting free advertising (on a supposed advert free channel), where you are asked yet again to put your hands in your pocket by performers, many of whom have tax havens/loopholes/clever accounting or are unashamedly plugging their latest ventures..

Yep...I'm sick to death with charities too..

And the problem is...some charities actually need to be supported, and these guys don't get a look in because of the 'corporate' charities (case in point,,as I write this the Adchoice link at the top of my page is the WWF 'adopt a tiger for christmas for £3 a month')

accyman 13-11-2015 23:03

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i wonder how much money raised for children in need was allocated to a hush money pot

BBC has done a lot to raise money for kids yet seem to be still held uncountable for the rape of children , covering these crimes up and protecting pedophiles

find it kind of rich that very wealthy people take to our tv's to tell us to spare what money we can for them and on behalf of one of the UK's biggest pedophile rings to boot


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