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Acrylic-bob 31-01-2012 17:43

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 966639)
....you do not go into hock and keep yourself in hock for generations to come.

No, future generations will have enough on their plates paying for the banking crisis, the bailouts the Quantitative Easing and the Foreign Aid budget. Not to mention Climate Change and Carbon Free Economy.

garinda 31-01-2012 17:46

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 966636)
All together now,

'We'll keep the red flag flying here'.

When it comes to a sing song, you can't beat the classics.

Red?

Sorry, must get new glasses.

The little man I was thinking of, goes around waving a blue flag, with gold stars on it.

In a world of his own.

Bless him.

jaysay 31-01-2012 17:46

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Originally Posted by Acrylic-bob (Post 966647)
No, future generations will have enough on their plates paying for the banking crisis, the bailouts the Quantitative Easing and the Foreign Aid budget. Not to mention Climate Change and Carbon Free Economy.

Um carbon free economy, looks like you'll have to give up smoking Bob:D

Margaret Pilkington 31-01-2012 17:47

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Originally Posted by Acrylic-bob (Post 966647)
No, future generations will have enough on their plates paying for the banking crisis, the bailouts the Quantitative Easing and the Foreign Aid budget. Not to mention Climate Change and Carbon Free Economy.

Yes, I think it is what the Chinese call 'living in interesting times'.
Our children and grandchildren, and probably their grandchildren will be paying the interest for all this senseless financial squandering.

Acrylic-bob 31-01-2012 18:01

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 966649)
Um carbon free economy, looks like you'll have to give up smoking Bob:D

There's no need to sound so gleeful about it, Jay. You can be a very hard man sometimes. and you know what they say about them...:)

cmonstanley 31-01-2012 18:01

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we take the nhs for granted .tory or labour or any other political persuation we should be very worried about these changes .i for one dont want to give the health insurance companies my hard earned cash.it is the end of the nhs as we know it.a nhs run by private equity firms which will charge to make a profit for the shareholder no way but we do nothing except sit in and watch the telly.these people are opertunists cameron and co making money for their mates.they are not even real tories.

jaysay 31-01-2012 18:05

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 966661)
we take the nhs for granted .tory or labour or any other political persuation we should be very worried about these changes .i for one dont want to give the health insurance companies my hard earned cash.it is the end of the nhs as we know it.a nhs run by private equity firms which will charge to make a profit for the shareholder no way but we do nothing except sit in and watch the telly.these people are opertunists cameron and co making money for their mates.they are not even real tories.

And your not even a real socialist, your far too thick

Acrylic-bob 31-01-2012 18:08

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But as a state run monopoly it doesn't work either, it costs too much and is too inefficient and unresponsive to the needs of patients. So, my blinkered socialist friend, if you were the Secretary of State how would you solve the problem that is the NHS?

garinda 31-01-2012 18:08

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 966661)
we take the nhs for granted .tory or labour or any other political persuation we should be very worried about these changes .i for one dont want to give the health insurance companies my hard earned cash.it is the end of the nhs as we know it.a nhs run by private equity firms which will charge to make a profit for the shareholder no way but we do nothing except sit in and watch the telly.these people are opertunists cameron and co making money for their mates.they are not even real tories.

I wouldn't worry too much.

After you've gained independence, your health service will consist of a woman called Bridie.

With only a bottle of whisky, some plasters, and 20 Woodbine, in the basket on the front of her bike.

jaysay 31-01-2012 18:17

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 966665)
I wouldn't worry too much.

After you've gained independence, your health service will consist of a woman called Bridie.

With only a bottle of whisky, some plasters, and 20 Woodbine, in the basket on the front of her bike.

Don't forget the little wire brush and the bottle of Dettol:rolleyes:

jaysay 31-01-2012 18:19

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Originally Posted by Acrylic-bob (Post 966664)
But as a state run monopoly it doesn't work either, it costs too much and is too inefficient and unresponsive to the needs of patients. So, my blinkered socialist friend, if you were the Secretary of State how would you solve the problem that is the NHS?

Hell Bob they had 13 years and the only thing they came up with was a load of red tape and Billions wasted on PFI:mad:

Acrylic-bob 31-01-2012 18:30

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It is only courteous to give them the time and space to prove that they do not have the answer to the problem either.

There are some who say why be courteous to the left wing, they would not accord you the same courtesy. My answer is, as always, because I was brought up to be a gentleman, the left wing's tragedy is that they do not recognise the concept.

jaysay 31-01-2012 18:34

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Originally Posted by Acrylic-bob (Post 966677)
It is only courteous to give them the time and space to prove that they do not have the answer to the problem either.

There are some who say why be courteous to the left wing, they would not accord you the same courtesy. My answer is, as always, because I was brought up to be a gentleman, the left wing's tragedy is that they do not recognise the concept.

Nice one Bob;)

cmonstanley 31-01-2012 18:39

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 966663)
And your not even a real socialist, your far too thick

lol:D man in the mirror. i actually agreed with your earlier post this is beyond politics. i dont want it to end up the american way, i would like to think the british public would be better than that and let cameron and co know.

Acrylic-bob 31-01-2012 18:45

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 966686)
lol:D man in the mirror. i actually agreed with your earlier post this is beyond politics. i dont want it to end up the american way, i would like to think the british public would be better than that and let cameron and co know.

It is not just Cameron and Co, as you put it, who need to be informed though is it? It is the unions and the Labour Party. because as sure as eggs are eggs, come the next election Ed Milli will be crowing about how much more money they would throw at the NHS were they to be elected. So unprincipled are our politicians become, that they will promise the earth to whomever they think might give them the keys to Downing Street.


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