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Waterworks! - on Sunday he had drips at the other end - from his nose.

I distinctly saw him remove a glistening drop with his white kid glove.

Now that's class for you - us plebs all know that sleeves are more common.:D

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I was wondering where Princes Edward, and Andrew were sat, to watch the spectacular event.

:rolleyes:

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Oh come on Margaret your not say such an avid republican as yourself succumbed to actually watching the events of yesterday:eek:

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She already said she did, with the sound off.

Best way to watch the later Carry On films.

Carry On Golden Showers wasn't one of the better films.

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By chance just switched on SKY news to see all these folk singing along to "Your song" while they wait for a beacon to be lit -seems its all brilliant and fantastic, great atmosphere...and God Save the Queen:rolleyes: made me cringe ...:o

Are they lighting a beacon on The Coppice tonight or will it be Pendle Hill?

OMG they're singing Crocadile Rock now...from bad to worse.:D Bring out Sir Cliff with "Summer Holiday" and 't jobs a good 'un!!;)

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Try this, Di

http://www.diamondjubileebeacons.co....ap_171898.html

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Madness on the roof of Buck. Palace singing "Our House" now that's MAD!!!:D

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Nearly as good as Macca, how anyone can think they could over Live and Let Die, is beyond me

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There was a distasteful side to the Sunday pageant -
Unemployed bussed in to steward river pageant | UK news | The Guardian

jobseekers were bussed in from Bristol Bath and Plymouth to work unpaid as stewards, and had to sleep rough under London Bridge.

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Yeah ... just read that ... pretty sad and pretty sick ... But what can you expect from the tories:rolleyes: ... after all, it's "part of the government's Work Programme."

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Well put the news on this morning and again it was wall to wall QJ, having already looked at the TV schedule on both BBC and ITV, when the outside reporter said she had a choir who had been waiting on the Mall since 10pm last night and they broke out with GSTQ, I finally lost the will to live and switched over to Vintage TV, a bit of sanity, records from the 40s and 50s:rolleyes:

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Apparantly this is the same company thats in charge of the stewards at the olympics so maybe there will be more forced labour there. :eek::eek::eek:

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Perhaps the use of slave labour is a new directive, issued by our German masters at the E.U.

Who found the system most effective, as a means of keeping people busy, in WW II.

:rolleyes:

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The Guardian only interviewed the whingers.There might be people there who would be grateful to have got this close to a real job if they were being assessed for the Olympics. They might have to face far worse hardships in the real world of work.

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If that in any way resembled a 'real job' then we are regressing towards feudalism.

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Don't disagree with you Margaret but when qualifications like NVQ Level 2 in spectator safety are on offer you have to ask if there is much future in the world of work for the masses.

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The simple truth is that this lot got a free ride up to London to see the Queen; there are many, many others who wish they had been so lucky. It's the usual nonsense that we have come to expect from the Guardian. I only have to see that pinko liberal rag in my local newsagents and I need to vomit.

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You put it far better than I could Tealeaf.

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And the Guardian love to root out these stories...it seems to be their main aim in life.
Putting negative spin on things....these people were voluteers(it says so in the article)
The Guardian wouldn't want a perspective from anyone who saw this as an opportunity....30 people...two complainers....a lot like life really.

I would have loved an opportunity to get this close to the celebrations that were happening in the capital. And it wasn't exactly back breaking stuff was it.

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Not everybody wanted 'a free ride to London'.
...... a return to the naval press gangs of the 18th century?

That fits the theme of a Canaletto flotilla nicely:rolleyes:

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Some of them obviously did Margaret......they volunteered....there was no risk to their benefit entitlement.

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I'd have done it for free...!

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Me too...especially if I had been on the unemployed list for a long time, as these people were reported to have been.
To have experienced the atmosphere of the occasion must have been quite something.

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So they were going to be in line for some well paid work then.

They still had the choice to stay on the coach and be considered for work at the olympics...or get off and not be considered.

They were not actually press ganged into it. They made the choice, so why complain about it?

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Working for free is acceptable when it is charitable service which benefits the community (meals on wheels and such like).

Any other reason is subtle slavery.

It seems like the jubilee and olympics are trialling the 'work for nowt' ethic.

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/olympi...e-7639875.html

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The article quoted says

staff such as security and stage crews receive their usual fees.

all other sectors involved in putting on these events — such as security, staging and equipment hire — are being paid their usual fees

It also says

Multi-millionaire basketball players Dwyane Wade and Ray Allen say their US team should be paid for representing their country at the Games.

I hope they they are disqualified from attending.

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Surely this is a breach of contract...

I wonder how much "Close Protection UK" were making out of this group of people being present-they mention some expenses in the form of clothing and some kind of training, but that doesn't give them the right to use people who are trying to get into the world of work - a difficult thing to do at the moment. Makes a bit of a mockery of the government scheme if it's just a way for some companies to make extra on the backs of people who are hoping for some kind of a future.:(

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Can't see you having the opportunity Steve... you're not a dole scrounger.

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Molly Prince, managing director of Close Protection UK, said in a statement: "We take the welfare of our staff and apprentices very seriously indeed.
"The staff travelling to the jubilee are completing their training and being assessed on the job for NVQ Level 2 in spectator safety after having completed all the knowledge requirements in the classroom and some previous work experience. It is essential that they are assessed in a live work environment in order to complete their chosen qualifications.
"The nature of festival and event work is such that we often travel sleeping on coaches through the night with an early morning pre-event start – it is the nature of the business … It's hard work and not for the faint-hearted.


No wonder the whingers didn't want to do it.

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Eer! Excuse me, but not everyone who's on the dole is a scrounger....a lot of people have lost their jobs due to the current recession. Professional people and workers of all different levels. There are also a heck of a lot of young people out there who've never had a chance yet either. It's hard when you send out loads of curriculums (or should that be curricula?) and don't get an answer -or when eventually you get an interview they are looking for someone "with experiece" -hard to have when looking for your first position...

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Keep yer 'air on! I don't tar everyone on the dole with the same brush!!!! I know you have sons who are finding it tough and there are lots of young people in the same position. And my partner has been out of work a few times so I have tasted life in the slow lane as well. What I was implying was that the attitude shown by some of the interviewees in the Guardian article was typical of those who can't get out of bed in the morning but think the world owes them a living.

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Those are the only ones who will give an interview to the Guardian susie;)

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I actually caught a bit of Queen at lunch time, Paul Rogers is a great singer but nobody can replace Freddie:D

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Yep, I made the same point in post 114.

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I'll make a point, If any of us or our dads had a bladder infection, we would still be waiting fer n appointment.:rolleyes:

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Phil the greek is a member of Bupa:rolleyes:

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No you got that wrong. It would have to clear up, then you would get an appointment.

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No Cashy, you would be treated as an emergency. In a chap of his advanced years it is a serious thing. Very unpleasant too.

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See like i always say, Theres always a bright side to everything.:D

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Yes Cashy....I do like the way you always see the positives....and I reckon he will be having his temperature taken by pretty nurses(and his catheter bag emptied too).

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Thats the only plus about being in dock Margaret, the only thing is they stick it in your ear these days not your gob:D

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What, the catheter tube?:eek::D

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No Barrie that only happens in very extreme cases;):D

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Not if you got loads of money and on private health care...but besides why did they have to stand up for 4 hours? I don't think people would have thought any the less of them (than some already do) if they'd have sat down and had a cup of tea on the boat trip. ;)

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They went "bellow stairs" for a cuppa and a butty during the trip, but they couldn't be away long leaving Charlie in charge, the boat would have run aground:rolleyes:

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Seems that Prezza doesn't want to let this matter drop...

BBC News - Prescott urges inquiry into Jubilee work experience claims

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It all smacks of exploitaton to me, however they try to dress it up with letters, numbers and "qualifications"...

There are a lot of people out there who are desperate to work and find their place in society.

Disparaging comments about the work-shy and pot-shots about those less well off are easy to make.

Think though -before you make them...there are always those who are less well off and are genuine in their attempts at looking for work - life is hard.

We don't all start off in the same place in the pecking order...and we aren't all born talented or gifted - most of us have to just get with life as it is and with what it has given us.

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Dianne there was something in the press the other day about 4 million households where there is no-one in fulltime employment.
I know families where no-one has ever worked.
While not all of those who claim benefits are workshy....there are some who are, and have no intention of finding work while they can claim benefits which give them a standard of living beyond that of some pensioners who worked all of their lives.

The benefit system should be a helping hand - not a life long career.

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no apathy in kilwinning;)

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Yes, shame you had to give up your job as a beater on royal shoots, after that scare with a dog stabber.

;)

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Ya mean he's the dog stabbers has moved north of Adrians Wall too Rindi:rolleyes: