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Today is the 60th anniversary of the accession to the throne of our fair land of our Sovereign Lady, The Queen. More blessed than any other County in England, we have as our hereditary Duke, the monarch herself.

When I was in the Netherlands, also a Constitutional Monarchy, I was surprised to see that any and every anniversary surrounding Queen Beatrix and her life was celebrated. The national flag, adorned with an orange wimple, was hung from almost every window in Amsterdam. Parties were held. Indeed, on Queens Day, April 30th. the whole of the centre of Amsterdam is closed and the Bylaws suspended for the day in celebration. I fondly remember the slogan on one t-shirt, which read: "There is room for more than one Queen in Amsterdam"

And yet here, where we enjoy a unique relationship with the Head of State, our Queen and Duke, I see almost nothing to mark this significant point in our history. For a country as obsessed with breaking records and the extolling of such, I find it odd.

Have we all lost interest?

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Hope to see you in Accy to see the Queens rep today Bob:D 41 gun salute at midday today Bob to start the queens diamond jubilee, kind of hope its on tv cuz I love the see just how good GB is at these ceremonial occasions, think there is nobody better at this in the world than us

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Some of us were never interested in the first place.

Sorry Bob, I wasn't really paying attention, what was the question again?

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erm

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Snap.

I did think of spending the day a' top the trees in the nature reserve, but because of the fog I don't think I'll bother.

I just worry how the Dutch will celebrate Queen's Day, once Willem-Alexander is sat on the old queen's throne.

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Too much on me mind A-B, Like will the Stanley Match be played tomorrow afternoon.:rolleyes:

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Most of the royals will be marking the jubilee year by having foreign holidays at our expense.
Royal family to mark Queen's diamond jubilee with visits to Commonwealth | UK news | The Guardian

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The only good thing about sill having an antiquated monarchist system in this country?

MargaretR and myself singing from the same republican hymn book.

:D

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Sadly I will not be among you today, detained as I am at the pleasure of another Queen: the Queen of English Resorts.

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Happy Mount Park, Morecambe?

When did you relocate there?

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Last week, I've opened a winkle stall.

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I'll look out for it, we're short of good seafood places in Morecambe.

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Next week we're branching out into muscles. The week after we're going for cockles.

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Still a penny?

Or have your winkles gone up?

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Oh, up. Absolutely. It's down to shortage of supply - I can't get enough winkle pickers.

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Be careful in Morecambe bay cockle beds Bob they can be very treacherous as some people found out a few years ago;)

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I still have a pair in the wardrobe Bob, ya can have um if ya want:D:D

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that only happened because they were told to come in when the tide reached knee high and didnt because their pal ne-hi was sat back in the van having a ciggy ;)

Well, apathey, I think you brought the best of it out of us today Bob, but I'm sure you'll understand if I can't be bothered to explain how.

Hands up all those that stood to attention when cinemas would play the Anthem, I bet there won't be many.

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i would rather stand up for teh pearl and dean intro music thankyou :D

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There's a four day bank holiday weekend in June to mark the occasion and for celebrations. I don't think most people would be willing to put out the bunting in dark & cold February. Plus lets not forget that it also the sad anniversary of her father passing away so the actual accession day is also about quiet reflection for a great monarch.

Believe me, by mid-June people will no doubt be complaining about too many celebrations. And no doubt people on this forum will be complaining about the cost to the taxpayer of all the pomp.

Dei Gratia Regina

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You ain't been a member on here long have:rolleyes:

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she is also the worlds longest reigning female monarch, so lets hope she beats queen victoria's record of 60 glorious years, Long live HM

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Too right, I'm starting to read the Daily Mail just so I can get some moderate opinions.

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I've got a feeling any revolutions will be quickly quashed, in the next three years, two hundred and fouteen days.

I wonder if Lillibet's had a little wager on herself taking the old Queen's title?

:rolleyes:

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You'll find the Mail is usually bleeped out on here as a swear word ToffeeGuy:D

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As an avid republican I find this invitation tempting :D

http://www.thediamondjubilee.org/send-message-queen

....but decided that the Tower of London is worse than my 'council cave'.

It does provide royalists with the opportunity to grovel, and is bound to make them feel better.:rolleyes:

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Council cave Tower of London, wouldn't make much difference you'd still moan

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Apathetic disinterest? Tautology?

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When Prince Charles visited Canada last month, the expense of the visit, you will be relieved to hear, was borne by the Canadian taxpayer ... and there was no bitching and whining about it.

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I love the Royal Family and I really enjoyed Prince Charles documentary last night, I'm having a Jubilee tea party on Monday with afternoon tea and champagne and looking forward to it very much!
I know they're German descendants, but it's part of our history and I think it should be celebrated. I think that although costing a lot of money to run, the Royal Family bring in a lot of revenue to the country - I'd rather my taxes went on them than on the dole dossers I seem to be supporting.

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Well said, Anne. I agree with you.

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I'm in your camp as well.

Steve I hope you're not just agreeing with Anne because of her avatar!

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I cannot see any reason why even the most seasoned of republicans can't raise a glass of something to the Queen.
60 years - a whole lifetime of work for the people of the country.........which politician would these republicans put in her place? Which politician could have been trusted to do the same job.
I can't think of any.
Those who cannot wish the Queen well and celebrate this historic occasion have a meanness of spirit, I hope they get pleasure from their chosen 'alternative' pursuits today.

There is no-one alive today who has witnessed anything like this - and indeed those alive(even the youngest citizens) are unlikely to see the same thing happen again.

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Think you've said it all Margaret, when you think of the likes of Cameron, Blair, Brown etc, all they are a leg-ends in their own lunch time:rolleyes:

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Just coincidence. I don't remember her having the westie avatar yesterday.

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parties galore up here/kilwinning irvine out my back door etc going to one in millport tomorrow..oban as well

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I once saw a chap refuse to stand for the Queen in a Orange club, that was quite fun:D

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Queens Day in the Netherlands has something to do with celebrating their monarchy?

Well, you live and learn.

:rolleyes:

The television coverage is a bit drawn out, and damper than a street party red, white, and blue butty.

I think I'll wait for the film to come out.

With Dame Titty Mirren taking the Anna Neagle role, in the remake of Sixty Glorious Years.

;)

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The last comparable royal pageant was held for King Charles II in 1662.

Diarist Samuel Pepys recorded boats so numerous he could "see no water."

I see water.

I see Ben Fogle in shorts.

I see Fern Cotton in a leather jacket, and Clare Balding in girly pink.

It's interesting to see, but I was hoping for greater spectacle.

It reminds me a bit of the shows they put on, on the boating lake, in that park in Scarborough.

When do the boats start attacking each other?

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The park is Peasholm Park, where they put on sea battle displays several times a week during the summer months.

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I am watching the pageant, I really would like to see more of the boats and less of the presenters and their inane twaddle. There are ten or so boats with musicians and we have hardly seen anything of them. There's about an hour of the programme to go and we are promised they will be shown but I won't hold my breath.

Shame about the weather but well done to the organisers and those taking part. The Queen and Duke really seem to be enjoying the spectacle and have stood for the whole afternoon though seats were provided. Not bad for 86 and 90 years old.

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The Queen arriviing at the Thames, looking resplendent, in an outfit by designer Angela Kelly.

A jaunty hat, with a nod to the nautical, and a ruff, which will help keep chill winds from regal necks, on this blustery June day.

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Tess Daley's just been knighted, by some nutter in Battersea Park.

Some of this wall-to-wall coverage from the BBC is utter crud.

It makes It'a a Royal Knockout look dignified.

Bring back Richard Dimbleby.

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I saw it on TV this week.

All the ships have council employees inside, pedalling away furiously.

Perhaps Hyndburn could bring the tourists in.

By doing something similar...with benches.

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I think there was a poll on here along the lines of the greatest royal King/Queen ..to my mind the present Queen is up there ...60yrs of keeping her gob shut, not many days off, turning up rain or shine, never called in sick, had to meet 12 different PM's most of them idiots... of course she has lived a privilaged life but she's been much better than Victoria who buggerd off to the Isle of White sulking for 25 years.:)

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Why the soggy red, white, and blue jubilee butty, are the BBC showing some end of the pier act, pretending to be Peter Snow...in a blond wig?

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I'm going to have to turn it off.

It was better than the Millenium's River of Fire spectacular.

Marginally.

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It wasn't though.

She formally ascended to the role of Queen on the 8th Febuary, 1952.

Yesterday, June 2nd, was the fifty ninth anniversary of her coronation.

All rather muddled, if you ask me.

Having the Bank Holidays back in Febuary, sixty years after actually becoming Queen, we might have stood more chance of better weather.

:rolleyes:

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No it's new, not mine unfortunately, but a very cute one I found when I googled!

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Royal sod.

Old Acidic-bab's post was made back in Febuary.

Apologies.

Still muddled though.

Having the Diamond Jubilee on the 59th anniversary of the coronation.

Rather than in Febuary.

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The Royal barge looks a bit Chinesey to me.

I'm sure there's a model of it in the Jade Garden, in Abbey Street.

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When they planned the Coronation for 2 June 1953 they probably never imagined she would get this far.

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Still, it'll have been a good day for the mudlarks.

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She looks in fine health to me.

If she's anything like her mother, I'm sure she'll still be here in ten years.

Which I think will be a first.

A Platinum Jubilee.

Take that, Mrs. Saxe-Coburg-Gotha-Brown.

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Though that's nothing to do with the fact that she became Queen sixty years ago this Febuary, not June.

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I watched some of it - I helped pay for it so why not - with sound muted to avoid the sycophantic commentary.

It was rather a damp squib as spectacles go.

I did see some amusing moments -
Phil the greek wiping his nose on his kid glove (before the rain), and the feeble efforts of some artists on a bridge.

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I would rather have a sycophantic commentary than some of the inane comments of the presenters.

The pageant was financed by private money apart from the policing.

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Oh come on that's abit picky..are you feeling miffed because we forgot your jubilee of seven years on Accyweb? :);)

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The bridge artists were hilarious.

Some soft black chap had painted her on a door, because 'she'd opened the door for womens' rights, throughout the Commonwealth'.

Er...if Princess Margaret had had an outy, instead of an inny, li'l Lillibet would never have been Queen, due to the laws of primogeniture.

Womens' rights by republican arse.

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Not picky, just factual.

She became Queen in Febuary, sixty years ago, not on the 59th anniversary of the coronation.

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Re: Queen to visit Accrington in May.
Took the following photo recently in Dacre village in the Lakes -it's a commemorative Coronation bench.

Just a thought, if she wasn't crowned officially until June 1953, is it really her Diamond jubilee this year or should it be held next year?:rolleyes::D
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http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...y-60634-7.html Post 104#
After a feat of copying and pasting all this just to say I had the same thought a while back -seems a bit muddled somehow - but the coronation bench is a lovely idea(and it has lasted!) -perhaps they could have a series of Diamond Jubilee ones made to put around Accrington -starting outside the Market Hall..:D

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The thought crossed my mind about next year n then i thought, i suppose its when she got the job. so this year it is.:D

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It's debatable, as to when her Diamond Jubilee is.

Febuary this year, when she ascended to the title of Queen, or June next year, when she was crowned Queen at her coronation.

Either way, historically, it's sod all to do with this weekend.

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Yeah, but she formally became Queen on Febuary 8th.

Nowt to do with June, this year.

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She probably gave Feb a miss, cos of the crappy weather?:D Plus if she had it then,My birthday woulda took the shine off it.

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Yeah, picked a scorcher out of the hat.

:hothothot:cool::D

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I'd always thought she was crowned in 1953..same year as Hillary climbed Everest and all that ...seems she was proclaimed Queen on the day her dad George VI died...maybe we could use this as an excuse for an extra day of next year and float some die hard republicans down river Hyndburn.:D

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All though she legally became Queen on the day her dad died, they had to have a respectable mourning period before they crowned her. So she has been queen 60 years, you'd already lived a year before you became 1, yet you'd been alive 1y & 9 months.

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How many more times?? It's the diamond jubilee of her accession not her coronation.

The Diamond Jubilee of Queen Elizabeth II is a multinational celebration throughout 2012 marking the 60th anniversary of the accession of Queen Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom to the thrones of seven countries upon the death of her father, King George VI, on 6 February 1952.

As posted a month ago...

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...y-60634-8.html post 109

The Queen's previous jubilees were also celebrated in summer. Would you want a street party in February? As for the weather - it rained on Coronation Day as well 2 June 1953.

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A Queen is not a Queen without a crown ...

I'd wear it full time in her shoes -all those lovely sparkly jewels!!:D

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I'd get your head reinforced first... they're very heavy. And bump up the insurance.

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Does she have the right to wear the Scottish crown jewels as well? They are quite pretty but less elaborate and would weigh less for everyday wear...I imagine.

Dressing down in essence...everyone knows who she is anyway -she doesn't really have to advertise...:D

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Er...yes, if I was an Australian, celebrating our Queen's ascension to the throne.

Everyone's fully aware that this year marks sixty year since she became Queen.

All that's being pointed out is there is no historic significance, to it being celebrated this particular weekend.

As well as the coronation, it also piddled down for the Silver Jubilee.

Perhaps plucking June, as the pinnacle of these celebrations wasn't such a hot idea.

Febuary 8th this year, the actual date of her Diamond Jubilee, admittedly cooler than today, was otherwise wall-to-wall sunshine. :hothothot

Not a rain cloud in sight.

Long may she rain over us...in damp, and dreary June. http://th247.photobucket.com/albums/...n_umbrella.gif

;)

Weather forecast for Wed 8th Feb 2012 - YouTube

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Nice one G. Karma due for this - clever clogs!:D

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Wrong.

She was actually only proclaimed Queen on February 6th, on the death of her father, the King.

She didn't formally sign the Accession Declaration, and accede to the throne as Queen until two days later.

February the eighth.

I can see why you don't particularly care when the celebration is.

Any old date will do.

:rolleyes::D

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Was nothing.

It actually lashed down.

Going into the time machine, to falsify the weather forecast was a bit tiresome.

;):D

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Creepy crawleys:D..any chance of taking the extra day off as a day to be less miserable?:rolleyes:

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Thanks ever so much for your application for the position of court jester.

Unfortunately you haven't been successful on this occasion, and won't be asked back to attend the interview selections.

Good luck.

I hope in the future you find something that you do have more of a natural talent for.

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Well I don't have a problem with the Queen, but talk about overkill TV wise, the next two days on BBC1 and ITV1 is wall to wall Jubilee, thank god for Discovery:D

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Accession takes place at the moment of death of the preceding sovereign. In the Queen's case, 6 Feb. The Queen arrived back from Kenya on 7 Feb, and the following day took the accession oath and was proclaimed on that day.

You're right, any old date will do.

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Betcha can't wait for the Olympics, eh;)

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No, despite your Wiki misinformation, she was only proclaimed Queen on February the 6th.

Accession formally occurred two days later, on the 8th.

Which therefore makes February the 8th this year, the 60th anniversary of her accession.

Anyway she's in town now for the racing.

She's still celebrating Christmas at Sandringham in February, and any later in the summer and she'll be off up to Balmoral for a couple of months.

This has just squeezed in nicely, between the Derby, and Ascot.

Back to this weekend's celebrations.

I bet she's really looking forward to Jessie J tonight.

Even though she's more of a gangsta rap fan herself.

:rolleyes:

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So the real reason, as to why jubilees are celebrated in June, rather than February, is that it fits in nicely with her calendar, and doesn't cause her too much upheaval.

The peasants get their damp butties, and bunting.

She gets to fit them in, inbetween watching the gee-gees, without it causing too much of a bother to one's self.

A perk of being the monarch, I suppose.

Rearranging the calendar.

At least she hasn't tried to halt the tides.

:rolleyes:

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It is not Wiki misinformation it is from the official diamond jubilee website

The Queen acceded to the throne on 6 February 1952 on the death of her father, King George VI.

http://www.thediamondjubilee.org/accession

Proclamation of her accession was 6 Feb was recorded in the London Gazette. The Accession Council took place on 8 Feb followed by formal proclamation read out in various places - I am old enough to remember this happening.

It still doesn't alter the fact that her accession happened on 6 Feb on the death of her father.

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Maybe all this is a rehearsal for June next year when it will be the 60th anniversary of her coronation.

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Think it will be Discovery then too Eric:rolleyes:

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Her accession offically, and formally happened on the eighth of February.

That's a historical fact.

Happily we're all agreed that the actual anniversary of this event happened in February, and has nothing at all to do with June.

As to the date, we'll have to agree to disagree.

Though history agrees with me.

;)

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I don't think there's anything planned.

Nothing much happened in the years following her other jubilee celebrations, in 1978, or 2003.

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I was just being a bit 'fly'.
What will we do for excitement next summer....no olympics, no jubilee celebrations....it is going to seem pretty dull.

I just felt a bit sorry for the Queen yesterday......I hope she had her damart vest on. I'm sure she must've been frozen to the marrow.......draughty and wet on the Thames.
Not the way I would want to celebrate my diamond jubilee.....I would have looked out of the window and said 'let's do it another day'.

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That's what we said too, about her hopefully having a thermal vest on. It was bitter.

I've gone back into vests, and the fire's on.

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As for excitment, once all this year's brouhaha's died down.

We'll still have a full programme of community art events happening in Hyndburn.

So we'll still have that to look forward to, and get all giddy about.

:rolleyes::D

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It seems Her Maj is on her own for the rest of the knees up, Phil the Greek is in hospital with an infection in his water works

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Wonder how he got that?:D

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They'll give him some little blue pills to get rid of it:rolleyes:

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Do you not mean red , white and blue pills?

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No the white ones are for Liz and the red ones are for Charlie:D

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I'll bet he's peed off about that.

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Think the problem is he can't pee:D

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Think I'd try that as an excuse too.

If I faced having to listen to Dames Elton and Cliff, trill out a combined century of their greatest hits.

:rolleyes: