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kestrelx 25-09-2012 11:44

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I don't know if any of you know about this or have signed this petition about the Government NHS Changes already...

This is part of a message I got:


The government’s plans to privatise and fragment our NHS are taking shape in your area.

Local doctors are forming a Clinical Commissioning Group (CCG) for the area. They’re going to get new powers to decide what health services you and your neighbours are able to access and who provides them. [1]

Whether it’s treatment for diabetes, skin conditions, a broken arm or depression, profit-hungry companies like Virgin Care and Serco are circling, ready to bid for contracts by promising to slash costs. [2]

The doctors on your local CCG will be under pressure from the government to hand out contracts to private companies. That could put vital services at risk. [3] But the last thing most doctors want is to carve up our NHS for private profit. Plus, the new CCG has a legal duty to listen to local people. [4]

So right now, we’ve got a big chance to ask local doctors to use their new powers to protect our NHS, not privatise it. Together, we can make sure they hear from hundreds of local people as they make these crucial decisions.

Protect your local NHS | 38 Degrees

Join here if you want.

https://secure.38degrees.org.uk/page/signup

:alright:

Boeing Guy 25-09-2012 12:59

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and it all started here.
Labour's PFI landmines continue to explode in the NHS - Telegraph

cmonstanley 25-09-2012 19:42

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the tories first pushed through pfi under john major http://www.parliament.uk/documents/c...1/rp01-117.pdf it was to encourage more private firms in goverment

cmonstanley 25-09-2012 19:49

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the biggest pfi is the channel tunnel £15 billion alone. so the tories say they spnd less when they really spend more but still create unemployment.

Wynonie Harris 25-09-2012 19:53

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1019238)
the biggest pfi is the channel tunnel £15 billion alone. so the tories say they spnd less when they really spend more but still create unemployment.

...and what about the £12 billion that the last Labour government spent on an IT system for the NHS that proved totally worthless? Or is that something you'd rather ignore? :rolleyes:

cmonstanley 25-09-2012 20:14

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just shows the private firms were lying through there teeth for more profit.your 1.5 billion off as they had to return that in a penalty clause;) the tories will get there soon lol Public Sector IT: Search Results

Wynonie Harris 25-09-2012 20:33

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1019248)
just shows the private firms were lying through there teeth for more profit.your 1.5 billion off as they had to return that in a penalty clause;) the tories will get there soon lol Public Sector IT: Search Results

What it shows is that the last Labour government are no better than the present coalition one. They were willing to squander billions and billions of pounds on a useless project (which they were warned about) for the sake of cheap headlines. Basically, their grasp of economic realities was about as sure as your grasp of written English. ;)

Barrie Yates 25-09-2012 21:08

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 1019258)
What it shows is that the last Labour government are no better than the present coalition one. They were willing to squander billions and billions of pounds on a useless project (which they were warned about) for the sake of cheap headlines. Basically, their grasp of economic realities was about as sure as your grasp of written English. ;)

If I remember correctly Wyn, there were a number of very expensive computer projects that failed miserably during Labours tenure.

Boeing Guy 25-09-2012 21:13

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1019233)
the tories first pushed through pfi under john major http://www.parliament.uk/documents/c...1/rp01-117.pdf it was to encourage more private firms in goverment

Yes they did and I did say the word Predecessor meaning them, you have yet again shown your Red colours. :cool:

cmonstanley 25-09-2012 21:41

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at least they tried to raise your standard of living, anybody who disagrees must have a short memory;)

Wynonie Harris 25-09-2012 21:48

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Originally Posted by Barrie Yates (Post 1019274)
If I remember correctly Wyn, there were a number of very expensive computer projects that failed miserably during Labours tenure.

There certainly was, Barrie. The passport office IT fiasco for a start...but our jock friend chooses to ignore this in his usual biased fashion.

jaysay 26-09-2012 09:04

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1019283)
at least they tried to raise your standard of living, anybody who disagrees must have a short memory;)

Ged out of here ya plank, pumping good money after bad to give a false impression of prosperity is flawed, off which we're now paying the price, especially in the NHS. I can borrow money and buy a big house a top of the range car, a boat, even a private plan, but it doesn't mean I well of, what it does mean is that one day the chickens will come home to roost and the bailiffs are banging on the door:mad:

Eric 26-09-2012 15:23

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1019331)
Ged out of here ya plank, pumping good money after bad to give a false impression of prosperity is flawed, off which we're now paying the price, especially in the NHS. I can borrow money and buy a big house a top of the range car, a boat, even a private plan, but it doesn't mean I well of, what it does mean is that one day the chickens will come home to roost and the bailiffs are banging on the door:mad:

Wouldn't all that banging on the door wake up the chickens? And why would you put your house on top of the car? And that private plan? Is it a health plan:confused:

jaysay 26-09-2012 17:23

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 1019401)
Wouldn't all that banging on the door wake up the chickens? And why would you put your house on top of the car? And that private plan? Is it a health plan:confused:

Well ya certainly lost me there Eric:confused::confused::confused::confused::confu sed:

Eric 26-09-2012 20:04

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1019418)
Well ya certainly lost me there Eric:confused::confused::confused::confused::confu sed:

I live in a state of confusion. It's nice to have company;):D Who's round is it, by the way.:D


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