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Margaret Pilkington 15-10-2013 17:19

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Now John, isn't that a little cruel.....he might have got hurt.

Less 15-10-2013 18:02

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1079710)
Now John, isn't that a little cruel.....he might have got hurt.

And Sadam would now be sitting on a throne in Saudi, at least we have better quality troops than Labour supporters.

cmonstanley 15-10-2013 18:27

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1079664)
So that's alright then. Labour didn't spend any more than any other government - yeah right!
They are spending more on welfare....? Thought they had cut the welfare bill.
Isn't that what you want? Freely available welfare for all and sundry.

The EU tells us that we are supporting 600,000 migrants from european countries.....figures from the EU...not from this government...people who have come here purely because they can obtain benefits without having worked for them, without putting a penny into the pot...paying no taxes(other than those levied on the goods they buy)...people who are escaping from the eurozone for purely financial reasons...not becasue they have skills that we need or that they have family here.

thats funny the facts say most immigrants are working The Immigration Bill, migrants and benefits | Full Fact ian duncan smith is wasting millions on a flawed change over to universal credit yes wasting i agree on some of the policies on principle but he is trying to move too fast and making a cock up. plus the fiddling with figures ie work programme sanction scheme etc. they are not counting the money paid to private firms on the work programme and providers as you cant get a freedom of information as its opted out due to commercial interest act.

Less 15-10-2013 18:50

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1079729)
as you cant get a freedom of information as its opted out due to commercial interest act.

Bit like your posts, we're free to read them, but to get sense from them we ask you questions.
We never get a decent reply, just an extra set of ramblings.
Tell you what, go to your profile, start at post #1 then work your way up to present day and only quote the ones that are close to making sense, it won't take up much room below but could stop you posting for a few days.
;)

jaysay 15-10-2013 18:51

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1079729)
thats funny the facts say most immigrants are working The Immigration Bill, migrants and benefits | Full Fact ian duncan smith is wasting millions on a flawed change over to universal credit yes wasting i agree on some of the policies on principle but he is trying to move too fast and making a cock up. plus the fiddling with figures ie work programme sanction scheme etc. they are not counting the money paid to private firms on the work programme and providers as you cant get a freedom of information as its opted out due to commercial interest act.

You wouldn't know a fact if it bit you on the bum:rolleyes:

Margaret Pilkington 15-10-2013 19:18

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1079729)
thats funny the facts say most immigrants are working The Immigration Bill, migrants and benefits | Full Fact ian duncan smith is wasting millions on a flawed change over to universal credit yes wasting i agree on some of the policies on principle but he is trying to move too fast and making a cock up. plus the fiddling with figures ie work programme sanction scheme etc. they are not counting the money paid to private firms on the work programme and providers as you cant get a freedom of information as its opted out due to commercial interest act.

This information isn't from any of our government sources, but from sources in Brussels....it seems they might know more about the movements of EU migrants than you or our illustrious government.

Margaret Pilkington 15-10-2013 19:22

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I suppose facts are a bit like the truth...there's your version, the government version and then the facts from Brussels......and I can't think of any plausible reason why Brussels would overstate the facts(understate...maybe)...and I'm pretty sure that they will have the finger on the pulse of who is going where.

cmonstanley 18-10-2013 11:05

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pensioners people with british mothers and fathers dual nationalities. you will most migrants are working;) anyway back to the thread . its good to have friends in high places. they don't even hide it anymore

cmonstanley 22-10-2013 18:26

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1079664)
So that's alright then. Labour didn't spend any more than any other government - yeah right!
They are spending more on welfare....? Thought they had cut the welfare bill.
Isn't that what you want? Freely available welfare for all and sundry.

The EU tells us that we are supporting 600,000 migrants from european countries.....figures from the EU...not from this government...people who have come here purely because they can obtain benefits without having worked for them, without putting a penny into the pot...paying no taxes(other than those levied on the goods they buy)...people who are escaping from the eurozone for purely financial reasons...not becasue they have skills that we need or that they have family here.

looks like it was just an estimate Factcheck: Who's claiming more in benefits? Britons in Spain, or EU nationals here? | Full Fact

Less 24-10-2013 19:58

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1080722)

So he tweeted?

Does that make it true?

cashman 24-10-2013 20:11

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Well come on, who are these people in Spain claiming benefits off? Having lived in Spain, I can tell you it sure aint off the Spanish.:rolleyes: If yeh aint paid in the pot out yon,yeh get nowt out.simple as. Hang on though, yeh must mean they are brits claiming off the Brits?:rolleyes: well what a shock that is, by the way Blair was in power when i lived yon, so it was ok by Labour then.:rolleyes: yeh really are a clown cmon.

Retlaw 24-10-2013 21:50

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1080938)
Well come on, who are these people in Spain claiming benefits off? Having lived in Spain, I can tell you it sure aint off the Spanish.:rolleyes: If yeh aint paid in the pot out yon,yeh get nowt out.simple as. Hang on though, yeh must mean they are brits claiming off the Brits?:rolleyes: well what a shock that is, by the way Blair was in power when i lived yon, so it was ok by Labour then.:rolleyes: yeh really are a clown cmon.

You mean if a spaniard comes here he can claim benefits, but if an Engish man goes to spain he gets nowt, I thought eu rules applied to all the country's in the eu, how do the others get away with it, every time we complain the jerries and the frogs shaft us, its about time we told them to apply the rules to all, if the eu said they would fine us for breaking their rules and we refused to pay, what could they do about it, throw us out ?.
Puzzled.co. uk.

cmonstanley 24-10-2013 22:42

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that's £2 billion undervalued now.

shillelagh 24-10-2013 23:11

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will someone tell me what has benefits got to do with the royal mail sell off?

Neil 25-10-2013 01:01

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Originally Posted by shillelagh (Post 1080956)
will someone tell me what has benefits got to do with the royal mail sell off?

Nothing but I fell asleep reading the thread trying to work out where it all went wrong - just tell me which post numbers to delete and I will. I will lose the will to live if I have to read it again :D

cashman 25-10-2013 07:36

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Originally Posted by Retlaw (Post 1080946)
You mean if a spaniard comes here he can claim benefits, but if an Engish man goes to spain he gets nowt, I thought eu rules applied to all the country's in the eu, how do the others get away with it, every time we complain the jerries and the frogs shaft us, its about time we told them to apply the rules to all, if the eu said they would fine us for breaking their rules and we refused to pay, what could they do about it, throw us out ?.
Puzzled.co. uk.

Thats it in a nutshell, have yeh noticed though how Cmons read it,posted, but declined to respond to what i stated? sod all new yon is there?:rolleyes:

Barrie Yates 25-10-2013 09:25

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1080938)
Well come on, who are these people in Spain claiming benefits off? Having lived in Spain, I can tell you it sure aint off the Spanish.:rolleyes: If yeh aint paid in the pot out yon,yeh get nowt out.simple as. Hang on though, yeh must mean they are brits claiming off the Brits?:rolleyes: well what a shock that is, by the way Blair was in power when i lived yon, so it was ok by Labour then.:rolleyes: yeh really are a clown cmon.

Same in France Cashy - I think you had to work for 12 months before you could get anything. although you were allowed to obtain a health card on production of the completed form issued by NHS Newcastle - and you could always use a EHC - but definitely no dole, housing benefit, sickness benefit etc.
Look at where our resident moron obtains much of his C & P from - enough said.

Gordon Booth 30-10-2013 18:36

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Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 1079383)
Actually, cmon( grits teeth ) you may be right. There appear to be two separate sell offs, one of which was not much mentioned. Too late now to dig further, will try tomorrow. Apology may be called for.

Cmon is now my Guru!

I forgot all about checking this out but now I have he was right.

Only 33% was available to the public, the rest went to the 'city'. Norges(Norway), Kuwait IO, Singapore GIC and Lansdown all got £50million each. The only British company which got a good share was Threadneedle Investments- a good company.All the rest was shared out between up to 300 big finance companies.

Apparently the ' book runners', the companies who organised the sell off, Goldman Sachs and UBS 'weren't geared up to selling to British Pension Funds'- so the Brit companies hadn't a chance- unbelievable!

Apologies, cmon. I will now give everything you write or post my full attention- well maybe some of it.
Well maybe not much or even less.

cmonstanley 30-10-2013 21:06

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apology accepted:D but seriously why do these companies want these shares , if they expect them to lose money as people have said. I know exactly they are going to sell the assets and outsource the work. this is why we should support the royal mail workers. they will have an incline what is going to happen .they will soon be working more hours for less as they will be transferred to these outsource companies . the tories will eradicate the tupe agreements as they will or have passed these laws. I need to delve more as they are good at hiding these with there hedge fund newspapers and news stations. I wish Britain would wake up . it makes me sad the Britain the great Britain I knew is being dismantled bit by bit. the nhs is next .

cmonstanley 30-10-2013 21:09

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Originally Posted by Barrie Yates (Post 1080981)
Same in France Cashy - I think you had to work for 12 months before you could get anything. although you were allowed to obtain a health card on production of the completed form issued by NHS Newcastle - and you could always use a EHC - but definitely no dole, housing benefit, sickness benefit etc.
Look at where our resident moron obtains much of his C & P from - enough said.

The French social security system - Family benefits notice any foriegner;)

DtheP47 30-10-2013 23:25

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1080938)
Well come on, who are these people in Spain claiming benefits off? Having lived in Spain, I can tell you it sure aint off the Spanish.:rolleyes: If yeh aint paid in the pot out yon,yeh get nowt out.simple as. Hang on though, yeh must mean they are brits claiming off the Brits?:rolleyes: well what a shock that is, by the way Blair was in power when i lived yon, so it was ok by Labour then.:rolleyes: yeh really are a clown cmon.

It's in the Mail so it must be true. :D
Don't mention ze dole! One tenth of Britain's expat population is claiming up to £23,000 in unemployment payments from Germany as benefits across Europe are revealed | Mail Online

cmonstanley 30-11-2013 09:30

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talking about nationalizing. what about the utilities here is a campaign highlighting re-nationalizing the utilities Power For The People | Campaigning in the UK for a publicly owned energy network run for people not profit. how many people will die this winter heat or eat ...

jaysay 02-12-2013 08:26

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1085905)
talking about nationalizing. what about the utilities here is a campaign highlighting re-nationalizing the utilities Power For The People | Campaigning in the UK for a publicly owned energy network run for people not profit. how many people will die this winter heat or eat ...

Don't be silly you won't get Tony or Gordon giving up their gas shares for love nor money:rolleyes:

cmonstanley 02-12-2013 23:11

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they are yesterdays men our ed will sort it :cool::D:D:D:D:D

jaysay 03-12-2013 17:26

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1086211)
they are yesterdays men our ed will sort it :cool::D:D:D:D:D

He'd make a real Balls up of it:rolleyes:

jack preston 06-12-2013 16:42

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they made over £600 million profit last year that's why I bought some shares which are doing well £5.93 today.

cmonstanley 09-01-2014 21:08

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which nation has a postal service 100% owned by its government ?

egg&chips 09-01-2014 21:41

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1090030)
which nation has a postal service 100% owned by its government ?

The Vatican?

cmonstanley 09-01-2014 22:23

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nope ,a country known as the most capitalist in the world.

egg&chips 09-01-2014 22:25

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1090040)
nope ,a country known as the most capitalist in the world.

The Vatican(still)

cmonstanley 10-01-2014 18:24

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the united states of america. so why cant we :confused:

jaysay 10-01-2014 18:32

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1090093)
the united states of america. so why cant we :confused:

Think its time to throw the towel in when your answering your own questions, hello is anybody there:confused::confused::confused:

cmonstanley 10-01-2014 20:56

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you were lol what country has a nationalized railway:confused:;)

egg&chips 10-01-2014 21:17

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1090114)
you were lol what country has a nationalized railway:confused:;)

Sodor

cmonstanley 11-01-2014 09:36

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united states of america;):D:hidewall:

Neil 12-01-2014 23:47

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1090150)
united states of america;):D:hidewall:

Are you sure about that because I can't find a link that agrees with you? As our link expert I am sure you will be able to find one

Less 13-01-2014 00:51

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1090150)
united states of america;):D:hidewall:


No such place, though there is a Country named The United States of America, did you mean them?

Eric 13-01-2014 01:09

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 1090362)
No such place, though there is a Country named The United States of America, did you mean them?

Maybe he meant the U. S. of Eh?;)

cmonstanley 13-01-2014 21:26

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:Dlol so the american's promote capitalism but keep their own infrastructure nationalized;)

Margaret Pilkington 13-01-2014 21:45

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The last government were in power for......erm, what was it now?
Thirteen years or something like that.......you didn't see them rush to nationalise any industries did you?
In fact now that they are in opposition you would think they had the answers to every problem under the sun, but they didn't do anything about it when they were in office......Balls...yes, that's a fair description of the way they ran things, but they can see much clearer now.....a bit like you,

Neil 13-01-2014 22:49

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1090401)
:Dlol so the american's promote capitalism but keep their own infrastructure nationalized;)

Did you find a link showing the USA nationalised railway?

Wynonie Harris 15-01-2014 00:33

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1090150)
united states of america;):D:hidewall:

Still waiting for your evidence, supported by links of this nationalised USA railway system. Not like you to be so shy, C'mon! ;)

Eric 15-01-2014 02:41

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 1090413)
Did you find a link showing the USA nationalised railway?

He's probably thinking of Amtrak, which is nowhere near a nationalized railway. Maybe he should have gone with the SNCF.:rolleyes:

Less 15-01-2014 05:57

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 1090505)
He's probably thinking:

That should have been posted in joke of the day.

cmonstanley 01-03-2014 00:43

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A History Of Corporate Nationalization - CBS News as i predicted a pound for a stamp ;)

Margaret Pilkington 01-03-2014 05:21

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1096219)
A History Of Corporate Nationalization - CBS News as i predicted a pound for a stamp ;)

As you seem to be so good at predictions, can you predict the winning numbers for the lottery tonight?

Margaret Pilkington 01-03-2014 05:25

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I can see nothing in that article that refers to a postage stamp being a quid!
Oh, I forgot....you have friends in high places...so you must be in the know!

cmonstanley 01-03-2014 08:23

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62p next month 1/03 2015 82p 2/08 2017 £1;) the winning numbers for tonight 7,11,24,29,38 41 :D

Less 01-03-2014 08:46

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1096228)
62p next month 1/03 2015 82p 2/08 2017 £1;) the winning numbers for tonight 7,11,24,29,38 41 :D

It's been a few years since the penny black was introduced everything has increased in price since then, are you too blind to see that inevitably no matter who is in Government, one day the price would reach and no doubt one day exceed £1.00.

A few of questions:-
1/ Which party was in control when petrol Reached £1.00 a litre?
2/ Which party was in control when we had the HGV's on the streets protesting about the cost of Diesel?
3/ Which party will you blindly follow where no other party will dumbly go?
:)

cmonstanley 01-03-2014 15:45

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dont forget to put the numbers on;):D

Margaret Pilkington 01-03-2014 15:53

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too late my other half put the numbers on yesterday.
Anyway if you were so good at predicting you would be a millionaire by now.
Aah, it all falls into place - you get into the cabinet meetings/meet influential bods because you are funding the government.

So 62p for a stamp will not overy worry you then.

Less 01-03-2014 21:42

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1096289)
dont forget to put the numbers on;):D



Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 1096233)
It's been a few years since the penny black was introduced everything has increased in price since then, are you too blind to see that inevitably no matter who is in Government, one day the price would reach and no doubt one day exceed £1.00.



A few of questions:-

1/ Which party was in control when petrol Reached £1.00 a litre?

2/ Which party was in control when we had the HGV's on the streets protesting about the cost of Diesel?

3/ Which party will you blindly follow where no other party will dumbly go?

:)


So you've been on this thread, what's up? Are my questions too hard? Or as usual you ignore everything that proves you to be a buffoon?

cmonstanley 02-03-2014 11:47

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 980479)
and while the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. who is going to gain from this? yes thats right camerons mates .i wonder where and when he went to dinner with them ,paid by the taxpayer to give tax payers a raw deal.

oh wait a minute my clairvoyance , oh no its not its just the tory spivs way.

Margaret Pilkington 02-03-2014 12:32

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No Less, it isn't that the questions are too hard, it is just that the answers are unpalatable and show him to be blinkered.
For all his protestations, he didn't post anything like this volume against the Liebour party when they were making a dogs breakfast of the country.
It is only now that he will very occasionally and grudgingly crticise some of the things that Liebour did.

They are ALL the same. Not in it to make our lives easier, happier, pleasanter or more fulfilling.
These politicians(many of them rich and privileged from all parties) only want to live life highon the hog, make connections so that when no longer in the POW they have still a dribble of gravy left to lick up.
Just remember this the next time any politician comes canvassing for your vote.

cmonstanley 25-03-2014 18:34

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just an update;) 4 Shocking Things The Newly-Privatised Royal Mail Has Done

DAV007 27-03-2014 10:09

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hardly shocking


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