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Where do we all stand on the US Presidential Elections?

To me, Barack Obama has made some wonderful improvements, not least the radicalisation of universal medical provision. Yes he has had problems, but caused mainly by the world recession.

The right wing reaction to his improvements, as presented through the dreadful "Tea Party" movement, has never impressed me - they seem to be the US equivalent of a group of narrow minded Daily Mail readers -, but more importantly, hasn't impressed the Republican voters. Their likely candidate, Mitt Romney, is hardly a Tea Party Icon.

The latest beting is for Obama 2/5 to be re-elected. I think he can authorise Michelle to plan the redecoration of the White House for the next four years.

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16 trillion in debt , yea Obama done a great job ....

Ron Paul would get my vote , some one who doesn't want any more wars!

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...and what was that pathetic commnent by Santorum all about? Saying "we decided to withdraw from the presidential election at the kitchen table"?

Who is he trying to convince? Makes you want to throw up.

Dreadful, dreadful man!

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Were i stand on the U.S. Election is as far away as possible, I know our lot don't inspire us much, But Jeez those clowns.:rolleyes:

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One way to sum up US politics is that Obama is labled as socialist and even a communist for the simply trying to create some sort of national health service in the USA.

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Hey, I live right next door ... "clowns" doesn't even come close:eek:

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Let's face it, the yanks just don't get it.

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I know Eric, but that was me being Diplomatic.:D

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Oh no.

It's bad enough over here.

Months on end, reporting all that Ra-ra-ra-ra-raz-zma-tazz!

All show, and very little substance.

Sort of like the Liberal Democrats on ecstasy. If they'd dumped Bournemouth for Disneyland, to hold their annual party conference.

If I'd behaved so badly in another life, that I was a Yankee Doodle Dandy, I'd probably vote for that dark chappy. As the best of a Goddamn awful bunch of tea baggers.

It holds very little interest for me.

Though I know we'll all be indirectly affected by the outcome.

A bit like the X-Factor Final result.

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You, they'd hang from a tree.

A very strange fruit indeed.

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Well it's nice to you know you, Jaysay and Acryic Bob turned up !

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Oh perhaps those other two would.

Not me.



I wouldn't waste a sheet.



I'd just shoot ya down.

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Calm down.. in the past you have said you'd shoot your kids but they don't exist..now you have stated you have the intent to shoot me :eek:

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Happily.

Start running.

I feel a scathing word, poised, and ready to fire out.

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Anyway, forget Obama, Palin, or whichever born again, former alcoholic, who hasn't been busted with a hooker, that the other lot manage to pin their nomination on.

Are there any stars in the running?

Cruise?

Douglas?

Travolta?

Freaky, from Home Alone?

Not Martha Stewart?

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i think Elmo could do a better job than obama and probably has more ligitimacey to be a president than Obama despite Elmo been made of felt

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Ya but that felt was probably made in a sweat shop in Thailand :D

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Trouble is that in the land of the free to invade any goddam country we want, there is a party of the far-right. At election time, it faces off with a party of the ultra-right. All the reasonably sane folks in the US seem to live in the North East ... they usually vote "Democrat" ... even when the candidate is a Southern Democrat. Southern Democrats tend to stand to the right of Northern Republicans:confused::confused::confused: Seems to help if you are "born again" ... whatever that means.

Obama could have done better. A Republican dominated congress didn't help. But he inherited two unwinnable (damn, hate that word) wars ... an economy down the tubes ... a national image problem ... He bailed out the Big Three auto makers. That has proven to be a good move. Made progress towards making sure all Americans have health care. Job creation figures are good. The future of the economy is looking not too shabby ... the US has numbers that most European countries can only dream about. Foreign policy ... not so good ... but Clinton (what a sweet little ball-breaker:D) is right on.

And it was good to see a black dude in the White house ... it's well within living memory that (probably Republican) good ol' boys was lynching niggas south of the Mason-Dixon line. We've come a long way since Rosa Parks.

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Perhaps they might do a Clinton.

Let Michelle have a go.

Better than Palin, and her ilk.

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Personally, I reckon that's a pretty fair assessment, Eric. I'd give Obama credit for at least attempting to create a system of universal health care if nowt else.

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It is remarkable, Obama being black. Considering there was apartheid in this country, within living memory.

Thankfully all the scaremongering, about him being assassinated before his inauguration, because of his colour, came to nothing.

The U.S. have had many, many worse Presidents in their history.

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Obama, as America's first black President, has improved race relations. In the States, and I'd say, worldwide.

You can't say our first female Prime Minister, furthered the cause of gender inequality.

Maggie not only pulled the ladder up behind her. She privatised it, and then sold it off.

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Total babe IMHO! ;)

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Are you serious ??

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Ber-limey it gets worse :eek:

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Agreed.

She is.

Knocks Denis Thatcher into a cocked hat.

:D

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Yes.

Or I wouldn't have bothered saying it.

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I was thinking more of her aesthetic qualities in comparison to Sarah Palin. ;)

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You call bombing other countries in the name of democracy & humanitarian aid improving race relations worldwide , Lol garinda seriously.

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For one thing, Mrs. Obama's inspired a whole generation of young black women, that empowerment can be achieved through education.

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More so, as a black man, whose father was an African Muslim. Comparing him to past Presidents, he has fared much better.

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Perhaps it's harder for others to understand there's been some advancement, if they can only see things simplistically.

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He has put the yanks in a hell of a lot more debt that any other President , 16 Trillion it is atm ... how you can think that is good I will never know.

I agree about most past Presidents where corrupt apart from Kennedy .. & look what happened to him for trying to do good.

Oboma has hosted the MuslimBrotherhood at the white house on numerous occasions in the past .. is that a good thing ?

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Take your time.

Try putting a finger under each word, as you come to it.

Read what was actually said.

Having an American President, who happens to be the first black President in history, has improved race relations.

The Obamas are now seen, by a whole load of disadvantaged young people, as more inspirational role models, than the local crack dealer, say.

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How do you improve race relations by bombing other countries ? or having an open border policy with Mexico which atm has had over 40k deaths in what .. 3-4 years through drug wars ?

I fail to see exactly where you are coming from with the " Has improved race relations " , with what is going on in America & further afield.

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History will judge the success, or not, of Obama's Presidential office, based on his political policy, and decisions.

However, his racial heritage cannot be ignored.

Within fifty years, for a country to go from one practicing offically sanctioned racial segregation, where any uppity, equality demanding nigga might very well be lynched for their troubles, to democratically elect a man, who happens to be black, as it's President, is really quite remarkable.

To a whole swathe of people, who find themselves classed as the underdog, it's proved, just occasionally, that the impossible's possible.

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i agree with garinda .the right wing nutters would rather you die than have health care.The obamas are bringing barriers down ,obamma is creating jobs instead of the the pillocks in this country creating unemployment.they still have a long way to go but are moving.

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Read again, what was actually said.

Relatively, he has.

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So many sniggers in that little conjunction of sentences ...... eeh, a near widdled mesel' ! :D

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I know about Americas past & where they are now in terms of race relations & he hasn't improved nothing .. It was only other day that a guy called Zimmerman shot a kid.

You think Liebour is best thing since slice bread , so you obviously know what you are talking about :rolleyes:

He will be elected again anyway according to Hillary Clinton :rolleyes:

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No cut 'n' paste, reasonably comprehensible...and I agree with most of it! Gordon Bennett, C'mon, are you ill? ;)

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Close.

But no cigar.

You silly moose.

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:D

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I disagree. I don't think you do know.

Otherwise you'd clearly be able to see the historical significance of Barack Obama's Presidency, and the way it's helped define the ambitions of America's black population. Especially it's youth.

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Perhaps you're just not very qualified, when it comes to judging improvements, however small, in racial sensitivities.

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...for-60419.html

:rolleyes:

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you have your opinion & I have mine on Obama & we are way off .

America is not just about black people you know or hadn't you noticed ?

Obama should be there for all Americans not just one set of people ....

Passing the NDAA bill was another thing he has done .. Great President this man!

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What has that got to do with anything ? ... If I see a problem I will express my views on it , that is my right .... Do you see that as a problem with that?

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Yes, that is your right.

It's also my right to disagree, and point out why you're wrong.

Works both ways.

'Rights'.

They have to be equal, otherwise they're worthless.

A little like your argument.

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Show me evidence from around the world that Obama has improved race relations please

It seems its you have a problem because I disagree with your opinion .. just like you disagree with anyone with a difference of opinion to yours.

Cant wait till you point where I am wrong :D

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Michelle Obama's special relationship with one London school | World news | The Observer

Read.

Again putting your finger under each word, as you come to it.

Don't just look at the pictures.

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She made a speech & now she is the saviour of race relations ? hahaha , haven't you noticed on the news in the rise of racist crimes ? .. don't know how could miss it its been on a loop for the last 4 months ish ... some good that speech made :rolleyes:

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Good point ... I hope that agreeing with you doesn't put me in the dreaded click:eek:;) ... and it is worth noting that the expectations of the first black President were set so high that no man or woman could live up to them. There were blacks in positions of power before Obama. Con Rice comes to mind: a black woman for chrissake as Secretary of State! A woman with two doctoral degrees. But blacks in America know that the white America is just waiting for them to screw up. To say that they are tiptoeing on eggs doesn't even come close to the reality. Obama is one smart cookie ... he knows that he represents two constituencies: America, and Black America ... and the hispanics, and the asians.

And of course the yanks are still rattling the saber; and still using it more than many would wish. But you can't change foreign policy overnight. The US is withdrawing from Afghanistan ... and they've given up on Iraq. But along with many others they are looking closely at Iran and North Korea. They still stand square behind Israel. For that matter so does Canada. And it would be a mistake to overestimate the power of the President. Sure, he is commander-in-chief of US armed forces; but, he can't just do anything he damn well feels like doing.

If the ultra-right Republicans, the Tea Party et al., don't support Romney because he is too liberal:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:and the 80% of Americans who support Obamacare get behind the President, Obama will be the next President of the United States. And I for one believe that he will do much better, and be much more adventurous in his second term.

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You really do have a problem, when it comes to reading, and then attempting to understand the meaning of what's been said.

Sadly, I never did have the patience, which meant I could have taught those with special needs.

Take the time, slowly, to see what was actually said in this thread.

Look up the meaning of the word 'relative'.

If you're still struggling.

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Blah blah same old rhetoric from you garinda .. Tell me a country where the Obama`s have helped race relations ?

The only relative that means anything to him is his mother/sister, he'd fit in well in the southern states.

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Is it warm down there ?

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Fer cryin' out loud, Wrighty, he's already told you about three times how the Obamas have helped race relations. Do keep up or you'll never get in the click!

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I read it all right & it proved nothing!! 1 article & problem solved ?.. hahaha .....

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As you say, there have been other high profile politicans.

As well as Conodolezza Rice, Jesse Jackson springs to mind.

But when Jackson was at his political peak, no way, even just a few short decades ago, was America in the mindset to elect a President, who happened to be black.

As for Martin Luther King. I bet no way would he have dreamt this momentous change would happen so soon.

In a country, where until recently, one woman's choice of seat on a bus, could make her a very important figure in world history.

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Obviously not "problem solved" but a step towards solving the problem. And what's with the maniacal cackling at the end? You're not going to launch into another diatribe about "zionism" or "cultural marxism", are you?

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Call it what you like .. But the fact is they are not solving no race relations , just like they are not here.

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Britain.

In being a role model to youngsters. Showing that you can, through hard work, and education, achieve what at one time seemed unobtainable.

The dream's not dead.

There is now no glass ceiling stopping your ambition, based on your ethnicity alone.

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I'm not calling it what I like, I'm calling it what you keep calling it. And I happen to agree with Garinda that they have made some steps towards solving race relations, but you seem to have a problem with other people expressing differing opinions?

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Now tell me what you really think of this country .. taking into consideration :-

Economy

How the government treat everyone

Not getting a referendum

Un controlled immigration

The state of the nation regarding anti social behaviour

Are you telling me there is nothing wrong.

If am honest I wish I could agree with ya that its got better but I see it differently

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I have no problem with no-one .. you must be reading my posts wrong

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Well, it's quite easy with gobbledegook like that, Wrighty. "I have no problem with no one"? So, that means you have a problem with someone...I wonder who? ;)

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That's why they have so much jelly.

A tasty snack with bread, and a handy lubricant for all the family.

What happened to that unhinged member, who was someone's long-lost Daddy?

The one who lived in a swamp-infested trailer park, with only alligators for friends.

Wasn't he called something Wright?

:rolleyes:

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Which is sod all to do wi the thread?:rolleyes: But shes encouraging not opposing, so thats going in right direction?

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Dont twist what I am saying!! .. another words I get on with everyone ...

Ber-limy ....

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It has every ting to do with it .. because with all them problems racial tensions will be high what ever country it is , its only inevitable don't ya think ?

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Hey, Wyn, I thought I was the grammar police! I suppose you want to join the click. :-)

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High or Not trying to help em aint the wrong thing to do, or do yeh think it is?:rolleyes:

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I haven't twisted what you're saying. Read it again, carefully. If you have no problem with no one, you have a problem with someone. And what does the last statement mean? :rolleyes:

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No one here has said any problem has been solved.

This is where you're making yourself look more than a little stupid.

Please feel free to quote someone posting that race relation problems have been 'solved'.

To prove you're not as stupid as you're appearing, to everyone who is able to understand simple language.

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:confused: baffled

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I think Wrighty wants to join the click. That's why he's getting a bit excited.

You mean that loveable old soul that left in a Blazey of glory?

Nice girl, should go far, I see a lifetime as career student opening up for her, though her dad probably faces at least three consecutive life sentences when the Sheriff catches him.

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Double negative, Wrighty!

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Yes, I suppose you are, as you probably don't understand the concept of double negatives. Never mind, it's all part of a zionist conspiracy. ;)

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You are saying Obama " has " you also believe it has improved worldwide

All I am saying is show me evidence of this happening in the states or worldwide & you produced 1 article that proves nothing

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Must be

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Thanks for pointing that out :D

Only in your mind, life must be so disappointing for you.

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I am happy with the way things are going :D

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There are countless threads, in which I've given my opinion on the political situation in Britain.

This thread's about the American Presidential election, later in the year.

Do keep up.

I'm guessing you're not very good at thinking about two seperate issues at the same time.

But do try not to jumble them all up.

It might even stop your head from hurting so.

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Lets skip the idle chit chat & show me evidence ?

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I already told him what threads about, but he refuses to grasp it.:rolleyes:

Yes well, I'm sure that setting your sites so low will protect you from your inner self.

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like I said i am happy with the way things are .. Isn't being happy what its all about ?

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'Daddy's in the chair.'

Doesn't mean you should necessarily expect a drink to be bought for you.

Depending on who's said it.

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The Obamas have shown, to a whole generation of disenfranchised young people, that the colour of skin you happened to have be born with, isn't necessarily a barrier to your ambition, and achieving what may once have been seen as an unobtainable goal.

From Soweto to St. Louis, some kids now have the belief that they can do something positive with their life, if they so wish.

There's one less hurdle to stop them.

Thanks to the U.S. of A. democratically electing a man to be President, who happens to be black.

A small, but significant step forward.

As witnessed by all, but the most blind.

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Or those that don't want to see.:rolleyes:

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True, imbeciles can take comfort, from their unfortunate condition.

A security blanket of mindlessness.

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I am not saying he hasn't shown a whole generation how to achieve what ever gaols they set .. i disagree with ya on where you said he has improved race relations .

America is about as democratic as this country & you will find that most western countries are the same .. as we have seen with the EU

Lets hope that it does provide a step in the right direction cause they need it.

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Am glad you`re happy garinda!

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Simple algebra, ain't it. Two negatives etc. .... that's about all I got from Gobbin (I think that would be E. J. Owen;))

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Come to think of it ... I got nowt from Gobbin:rolleyes:

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You can't agree the President's election has inspired a whole generation of black youth, who now believe that there's no racial barrier to their ambitions, and yet disagree that this small step forward isn't a positive move, in regards to race relations.

Well I suppose you can, if you really are a bit dim.

In which case wasting time, constantly explaining the same, simple point, endlessly, becomes rather pointless.

To put it simply.

It's a small, but good thing.

Like when they stopped people paying a shiiling, to go in and stare at people like you, locked away in Bedlam.

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Does term time at the special schools start next week too, along with the others?

(Fingers crossed.)

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But he wasn't a Gobbin.

Born in Wales.

Didn't even live above the lamp.

You AGS lads.

So sloppy.

Our masters were given much more accurate...and cruel nicknames.

:D

I thought he was called Winky? Was he Gobbin as well?

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Show us some evidence then to back up your claims that " he has improved " race relations in the states and around the world .. you have linked 1 article which proves nothing :rolleyes:

Dont take all day eh! .. I want to see evidence of your claims :D