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garinda 22-05-2012 20:58

Where have all the jobs gone?
 
Where are people employed now?

Does nearly everyone have to commute out of the area to work?

Can't speak for the whole of Hyndburn, though many taditional jobs have gone from throughout the borough, but just in Ossy alone, in the last twenty years, I can think of....
Noel's pickle factory,
Cocker's chemicals,
Metcalfe's fertilisers.
Metcalfe & Tattersall's saws,
Gaskell's carpets,
Three Brooks mill,
the Daisy Dairy,
Will's fabrics,
John Wood's steel drums,
the Shopfitters,
S & G Aluminium,
all manufacturers, and major employers in the town, and companies that have now closed down.

Where are the jobs that have replaced them?

The number of shops is dwindling, and besides a few old folks homes, and some schools in the town, where are people employed?

How far do people now have to travel for work?

Have we turned from an area that historically manufactured things, to all working in the service industry, sat in call centres?

Or are we a satellite town, where people live, but commute from, to earn an honest crust?

maxthecollie 22-05-2012 20:59

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There seems to be more office based jobs now a lot of the old trades are not taking on apprentices.

accyman 22-05-2012 21:07

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did Cocker's chemicals deal in urine ?

Mick 23-05-2012 04:52

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Metcalfe & Tattersall's saws,
this firm is now on Blackburn road near the Antley garage

garinda 23-05-2012 04:56

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Originally Posted by accyman (Post 993432)
did Cocker's chemicals deal in urine ?

I don't know, but what they pumped into the brook that ran past it, turned it the same colour as pee, after a heavy night out on the ale.

:eek::D:eek:

When you think back, to when 60% of local people used to work in textile mills, or associated industries, all those jobs have now disappeared, but what's replaced them?

Surely not everyone's employed in public sector office jobs?

garinda 23-05-2012 05:02

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 993457)
Metcalfe & Tattersall's saws,
this firm is now on Blackburn road near the Antley garage

Happily a firm to knock off the list.

I didn't know they'd relocated.

Cheers.

BERNADETTE 23-05-2012 06:10

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The problem is across the whole of Hyndburn G and when I hear talk about "getting everybody back to work", I often wonder where the jobs are coming from. Add these few to the list of local employers gone as well,
Brick Works
Rist Wires
T.M.L Plastics (though it had another name before closing) to name but three big employers as well. It is a disgrace for the borough:mad:

garinda 23-05-2012 06:39

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 993463)
The problem is across the whole of Hyndburn G and when I hear talk about "getting everybody back to work", I often wonder where the jobs are coming from. Add these few to the list of local employers gone as well,
Brick Works
Rist Wires
T.M.L Plastics (though it had another name before closing) to name but three big employers as well. It is a disgrace for the borough:mad:

Yes, loads of people worked at Rist Wire's, plus Stanhill Ring and Enfield mills, but I couldn't remember exactly when they closed down.

I can't think of many new firms that have opened up in Hyndburn, to replace all the companies that used to employ thousands of local people.

Margaret Pilkington 23-05-2012 07:10

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There was Broadley's print works in Clayton, Blakes Vitreous Enamel,Allspeeds, Carborundum had two mills in Clayton.......these have all gone.

garinda 23-05-2012 07:20

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 993467)
There was Broadley's print works in Clayton, Blakes Vitreous Enamel,Allspeeds, Carborundum had two mills in Clayton.......these have all gone.

Not forgetting one of the area's largest employers, where hundreds, and hundreds worked, Bullough's.

Where's everyone employed now, that used to work locally manufacturing things?

They can't all be in the Globe centre, floggin' foreign holidays.

Neil 23-05-2012 08:17

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My commute is a 78 mile round trip which is why my car will soon have 260,000 miles on it. Diesel for getting to/from work and my other driving about costs me somewhere between £3500 - £4000 a year but I try not to think about it. If I had a local job I would save that money but I would still be worse off so I spend an hour and a half listening to the radio driving each day.

Before this job I was in Preston and before that Burnley.

(You can't moan at me about the picture Kate, I was stopped this time :p )

Margaret Pilkington 23-05-2012 08:31

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I can remember when I was growing up, the throngs of people who walked along the 'factory bottom' in Accrington.......there were folk from Highams Mill, Warburtons, Giron Freres and then there were the Howard and Bulloughs lot....you could get killed in the crush.
We exported a lot of these jobs.......I don't know if the government of the time really realised what this would mean....cheap imports of cotton goods coming firstly from Portugal, and latterly from India.

I don't suppose we will ever see the like again.
During my working life I had six jobs...well five jobs(where I worked purely for the money) and 1 career. My career lasted 28(almost 29) years.
The only time I was out of work and drawing dole, was during the time when there were power cuts and we were laid off.

I really do despair for the children growing up. Their prospects look very bleak.

susie123 23-05-2012 08:55

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I remember the Mastabar Belt Works, used to wait for the Manchester bus outside their building on Melbourne street. That became Karrimor which also closed many years ago.

It would be interesting to know how many Accyweb members run small, or nor so small businesses, and how many people they employ.

jaysay 23-05-2012 08:59

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The reason shopfitters went is they out grew the market, Shopfitters were geared up to the ordinary corner shop, when they sold out to London firm Church the bottom was dropping out of the market, Church were more interested into doing the multi nationals M&S Debenhams etc.they then moved the whole operation south

garinda 23-05-2012 09:16

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Originally Posted by susie123 (Post 993478)
I remember the Mastabar Belt Works, used to wait for the Manchester bus outside their building on Melbourne street. That became Karrimor which also closed many years ago.

It would be interesting to know how many Accyweb members run small, or nor so small businesses, and how many people they employ.

The bakers shop my grandfather worked at since 1929, and bought in 1945, in now my brother's, and employs about ten people. A mix of full, and part-time workers.

It's totally changed, even since I worked there on Saturdays, as a teenager.

It's mainly lunch time trade now.

I think they close at 2 pm, when in the past it used to be six.

Instead of people walking to the shops, pushing prams, carring shopping bags etc, most park, get what they want from a particular place, then drive off again.

My brother's keen his children don't take over, and they don't want to. So all though it's only a small business, it looks like this third generation to provide Ossy with pies, custards, and tea cakes, will be the last.

Margaret Pilkington 23-05-2012 10:02

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You never know...if the custom is there for good quality stuff, then maybe someone will want to take it on and continue to provide these things to the people of Ossy.

I know when Ma and I have been out and about on our travels we look for somewhere that will make you a butty with fresh ingredients.....and look for grub that looks like it was made in my kitchen....most times the food is better than what you would pay the same price for in the supermarket chains.
And don't get me started on the motorway outlets!!!!!!

lancsdave 23-05-2012 10:23

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Originally Posted by susie123 (Post 993478)
It would be interesting to know how many Accyweb members run small, or nor so small businesses, and how many people they employ.

I do but I can't even afford to employ myself let alone anybody else :(

Eric 23-05-2012 18:18

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 993467)
There was Broadley's print works in Clayton, Blakes Vitreous Enamel,Allspeeds, Carborundum had two mills in Clayton.......these have all gone.

And English Electric. And I forget the name of that paint works on Rishton Rd:confused:

stetrovers 23-05-2012 19:32

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I didn't know S G Aluminium had shut, when did that happen?

claytonx 23-05-2012 19:58

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 993591)
And English Electric. And I forget the name of that paint works on Rishton Rd:confused:

Eric, I think it was Enfield Paints.

maxthecollie 23-05-2012 20:02

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Originally Posted by stetrovers (Post 993617)
I didn't know S G Aluminium had shut, when did that happen?

I think that they relocated somewhere else.

steve2qec 23-05-2012 20:09

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 993457)
Metcalfe & Tattersall's saws,
this firm is now on Blackburn road near the Antley garage

Not the same company, it's a firm run by the son of the Metcalfe half of M&T but they do the same kind of work.
The owner's my brother-in-law and they rent part of my building on Blackburn Rd.
Unfortunately they don't employ anything like the workforce that M&T had.

jaysay 24-05-2012 08:58

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Originally Posted by stetrovers (Post 993617)
I didn't know S G Aluminium had shut, when did that happen?

A long time ago stet, Ian Stanners who started the firm was a Director of Rovers at one time, started at Shopfitters in the early 70s

jaysay 24-05-2012 09:01

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Originally Posted by steve2qec (Post 993623)
Not the same company, it's a firm run by the son of the Metcalfe half of M&T but they do the same kind of work.
The owner's my brother-in-law and they rent part of my building on Blackburn Rd.
Unfortunately they don't employ anything like the workforce that M&T had.

Metcalfe and Tattersal both worked as saw doctors for Shopfitters in the 60s Steve

MargaretR 24-05-2012 09:10

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Some employers relocated to business parks away from residential areas.
This became feasible when car ownership increased.
Altham Business park seems to be thriving.

Business Directory Altham - UK

I am surprised that Senator International is not mentioned on that site - as far as I know they are still trading from there.

jaysay 24-05-2012 09:15

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 993684)
Some employers relocated to business parks away from residential areas.
This became feasible when car ownership increased.
Altham Business park seems to be thriving.

Business Directory Altham - UK

I am surprised that Senator International is not mentioned on that site - as far as I know they are still trading from there.

Did they not go bump a couple of years back, I know things weren't right good there work wise because a mate of mine said he was leaving before it closed down things were getting that bad

MargaretR 24-05-2012 09:33

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Last year Senator were expanding

Senator International set to expand Altham site (From Lancashire Telegraph)

They still have an operational website.

jaysay 24-05-2012 09:47

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 993686)
Last year Senator were expanding

Senator International set to expand Altham site (From Lancashire Telegraph)

They still have an operational website.

Sorry Margaret, its just that when I was talking to this mate they were going through a real rough patch, but giving it some thought it must have been 4 or more years ago as I haven't been in Ossy Con for 4 years now and that's where I used to see my mate:o

entwisi 24-05-2012 10:40

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They appear to be thriving as Brother in law(ish) is constantly doing Overtime there....

maxthecollie 24-05-2012 11:05

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Aren't Senator at the bottom of Bolton Ave Huncoat as well?

Eric 24-05-2012 18:11

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Originally Posted by claytonx (Post 993619)
Eric, I think it was Enfield Paints.

Seems to ring a bell ... terrified of the place at nite when I was a kid ... my politically incorrect gran told me that there was a boggart living in the old factory chimney;):D.

hassy rvr 24-05-2012 19:27

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 993591)
And English Electric. And I forget the name of that paint works on Rishton Rd:confused:

My brother served his time at English Electric, we got our 1st washer while he was there to replace the owd dolly tub & mangle.:rolleyes:

Eric 24-05-2012 23:17

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Originally Posted by hassy rvr (Post 993755)
My brother served his time at English Electric, we got our 1st washer while he was there to replace the owd dolly tub & mangle.:rolleyes:

That place used to employ a lot of men. I remember knocking off time ... all the men walking down Charles St. ... I lived at the bottom of Charles St. on Rishton Road. My dad worked there before he went to work at Huncoat power station.

claytonx 25-05-2012 16:31

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Originally Posted by hassy rvr (Post 993755)
My brother served his time at English Electric, we got our 1st washer while he was there to replace the owd dolly tub & mangle.:rolleyes:

Looked after their workers when those places were producing,exellent sporting facilites
best cricket and football pitches well looked after specialy English Electric.

jaysay 25-05-2012 17:54

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Originally Posted by claytonx (Post 993853)
Looked after their workers when those places were producing,exellent sporting facilites
best cricket and football pitches well looked after specialy English Electric.

Never played on English Electric Roy, but played on the Rolls Royce pitches at Barnoldswick on a few occasions they were by far the best cricket pitches in the league by a million miles, was like playing on a bowling green


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