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Yes, obviously it's his fault. I remember vividly saying that.

Or perhaps not, and I seem to remember saying repeatedly that Accrington is not as bad as people keep making out. Every time I go it extracts money out of me which is surely proof enough.

Find me an example of a Labour Councillor saying something truly detrimental about Accrington town centre because I don't remember any of my lot doing that.

The Peel Street toilet debacle does not count either, that was an HBC decision and a bloody stupid one that cost us the taxpayer £300,000.

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Spend an hour or two looking through your back posts, when you were first on here every morning noon and night, calling Britcliffe and the Tories up hill and down dale, mind you when in opposition you can say anything you want, its only when it comes around that your the one answering all the questions that the appearances die off and become just a token appearance, well especially at this time of year, leading up to vote for us time.

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If a council can afford to allocate 20k looking at the viability of building a canalside development with shops, supermarkets and cafes for an area that doesn't really need it, whilst turning down the whitebirk plan, which offered pretty much the same for free, it just gives those halfwits in central government the ammunition to validate such savage cuts.

Go figure ;)

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Ah, right Jay, now we know why you didn't leave, we're coming up to elections and you wish to remain as a Tory sounding board, (or is that a Tory sounding bored?), (perhaps even a boring Tory?), maybe it's a Tory without a cause? Wake up and see what they are doing to the poor, not all on sickness benefit or the dole are scroungers.
For once admit how mean your party is to the vulnerable.

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You're changing tack now.

Of course I called Britcliffe while I was in opposition, at every opportunity and for every witless policy, but I thought your point was that I was now criticising him for the very same thing that you think Labour did, ie. talking down the town centre?

We've never done that simply because it doesn't help the town centre.

Still the Britcliffe puppet after all this time, spinning words to make it sound like dirty Labour versus poor Peter.

Disappointing.

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It's not viability, it's hammering out a workable framework that developers have to adhere to and that fits it with the locality as a whole. At the moment there are four plots that are demolished and vacant along the canal which means that we have a golden opportunity to develop them in a holistic way rather than let four developers build on them in their own way for maximum profits and no regard for the impact on infrastructure.

It's a lot of money but in the grand scheme of things will work out beneficially to Rishton long term.

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And there is the crux...£20k for a framework, for resources, for a village with an abundance of resources where planning permission for similar resources, less than a mile up the road, has already been rejected, yet Woodnook is left to rot, Huncoat is turned into the waste tip for East Lancashire, the town centre is boarded up and left to vagabonds.

Unless, of course, these resources will be the building of a school, nursery and play area for the kids of the families that will be moving in to these four developments, in which case I'll agree to the long term beneficial aspect.

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Woodnook is most certainly not being left to rot and Clare Pritchard has worked her guts out on this one. Just type 'Clare Pritchard Woodnook' into Google and see what comes up. Millions are being invested in that area as we speak.

The Peel Park scenario became a very tangled web and whilst we all want to see it developed properly the landowners were doing it in quite a sneaky way in order to eventually get what they wanted and go against HBC policy. Developing that as a fully fledged retail park will kill Accrington stone dead but that does not stop the owners regenerating it, the story is simply being peddled that their hands are completely tied which isn't true.

In Rishton (as with any planning application anywhere) new developments have to adhere to local infrastructure guidelines on impact to traffic, schooling, hospitals, etc. If any one development puts a strain on resources then the developers must allocate sufficient resources to help, it isn't all one way. At the moment we have enough resources to cope with one or two developments but it is fairly unlikely that any more would go unchecked by the Planning department because there simply wouldn't be the places at schools, etc.

Planning applications are taken very seriously and all variables are closely scrutinised these days.

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Fair enough, I stand corrected.


Deepdale didn't kill Preston, Freeport didn't kill Fleetwood, Reebok didn't kill Bolton, Cheshire Oaks didn't kill Chester (the list is endless).....and neither would a retail park have killed Accrington, that's just scaremongering....extremely bad forward planning killed Accrington, nothing will save it now. A retail park would have created jobs, could have had a shuttle bus service from Accrington, could have insisted that planning included reasonably priced small units for small businesses

So why do you need the £20k? :D

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You can't kill something that is already dead...and I think Accrington is just that.
The market is almost ghostly with more empty stalls than occupied ones....and this is on a Saturday.
As for the new bus station being a positive....this is going to take those who use public transport further away from the market so traders are going to be upping sticks and leaving........those planters on Broadway are going to need the lettering altering......because we might have flowers come summer, but the market may be gone.
It really can't be a sensible plan to let market stalls remain empty(bringing in no revenue) surely it would be better to let them out at a nominal charge so that at least there would be a bit of variety....tempt people away from the bus stops to spend money.
I know that other towns are suffering similar problems....but surely that should be a signal for towns to get their heads together and work out some kind of strategies to remedy the problems.
The new bus station isn't the answer it is going to take people away...not bring them in.

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Ken, please understand this - you can make all the improvements you want to the town centre. You WILL NOT get people coming back while it is populated by junkies, alkis, beggars and assorted low lives. So until the council grow a pair and take steps to tackle the problem and, just as importantly, the reason behind the problem, Accrington centre will continue on its inevitable decline. And that's not "talking the town down", that's stating cold, hard facts.

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It's not rocket science, you only have to look at the towns that are dying as opposed to those that are doing just fine.

The death knell is over-modernisation....all the towns that are dead or dying have :-
a) built twisty-winding multi-storey car parks
b) filled the town centres with concrete/brick monstrosities
c) placed maze like one way systems
d) pedestrianised the main high street
e) a ring road that pushes casual shoppers away from the centre of town

Accrington has 4 of the above plus a vagabond problem caused by a very silly, apparently untouchable fruitcake ex-nun. Nothing short of a few bulldozers and a massive influx of cash will save this town, except perhaps for a stray meteor or two. ;)

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True but she means well.:hehetable

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Spot on as usual Marg but will they listen? I think not, our town is in a mess but nobody seems to be addressing the cause of the problem. Moving the bus station is definetly not going to cure the problem, in fact I've heard it said that if the proposed move goes ahead, the clothes stall that takes up quite a chunk of the outside market is quitting after many years on Accrington market:(

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I disagree that other towns are suffering like Accrington. Every town I go to is busier than Accrington to a greater or lesser extent. Look at Bury - a modern, concrete shopping centre, few of the graceful Victorian buildings that Accrington has, a 20-minute tram ride from the biggest city centre in the North of England and it's thriving.

It's not rocket science - if shoppers are going to be hassled, abused or confronted with the dregs of humanity, they will not shop here. Why won't councillors talk about the problem and the reason why these scumbags are attracted to Accrington? Political correctness maybe?

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ain't heard from Britcliffe for over 6 months, just pointing out you hypocrisy, the only thing I know about HBC is from the local press, as very few councilors come on hear these days, including you. to be honest can't say I've heard much about Britcliffe in the press even, so your just throwing snowballs at the moon as usual.

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So what your actually say Less is that every person who signs for benefits is totally and utterly entitled to those benefits, wonder why during the reign of the last government DLA increase out of all proportion. This government isn't mean to the vulnerable, they are mean on those pretending to be vulnerable. Years ago if you were of sick for 26 weeks you had to go for a medical and rightly so, why it was stopped I don't know. I will agree that any health checks carried out SHOULD be done by medical professionals not agencies, There's been a program running on BBC1 every day over the last few weeks called Saints and Scroungers, very eye opening to say the least.

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Your wasting your breath Wyn, this has been brought up numerous times in this thread yet Clr Moss doesn't seem to want to answer the question, he keeps mentioning Clare Pritchard and her team, well only gleaning knowledge from the local press these days, Clare Pritchard seems to be something of a one man band as far as HBC is concerned, she seems to be tackling everything in Hyndburn these days, well according to the local press

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I wasn't 'talking the town down'....but just expressing an honest and factual viewpoint.
I visit the town centre everyday and I am embarrassed by the down at heel feel to it.
Yesterday we went to Bury to the market....a real market....one with a diversity of stalls and stuff to buy at competitive prices......luscious pies, pungent cheeses........a variety of fruit stalls showing off their wares.
It was a sunny day and it was bustling.
Their shopping mall has its fair share of empty shops, but doesn't feel anything like as depressing as Accrington town centre.

If we want a new bus station, then bulldoze the Arndale, put it on that land and...let traffic flow again through the heart of Accrington because it is the blood that will keep the heart beating.
Make the shops and the market diverse....let's have something that people want to come to our town to see.....and spend money.
Sit back and wait for things to turn around, and we are, as a town, dead.

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As I've said, Margaret, Bury is thriving...an outstanding example of what can be done with a small town centre living in the shadow of larger towns/cities. But I defy anyone to show me a town centre that's as deserted as Accrington's on a Saturday afternoon.

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Don't you just love councillors!

Volunteers 'cut off' from having a say on Great Harwood regeneration plans (From Lancashire Telegraph)

A group of volunteers work hard for years to improve their locality and just when they finally start to get things moving, officialdom rears its ugly head and tells them that 'they are subsidiary', and that 'they are a sub group' of something called 'an area council'. For the unenlightened, an area council is a sub group that is subsidiary to the borough council, (which is pretty much, as a councillor, something else you can put on your expense forms for attending), unlike the subsidiary, sub group, local volunteers who are paid nothing yet are prepared to get their hands dirty, go out in the rain and try to do things that benefit the area where they live.

Now I know who I would trust between :-

a) a bunch of unpaid people who want to better their community and give their time and effort for free

and....

b) a bunch of overpaid planners and think tanks paid for and overseen by paid jobsworth councillors with a minority mandate (using my money, not their own)

I hasten to add that I have nothing to do with the community volunteers, I'm far too lazy, but I know that Great Harwood has a nice little thriving town centre with a nice variety of shops, a very cheap petrol station, three supermarkets and a mini supermarket. It's free from all the malaise of Accrington town centre, the local police station is active, high profile and very responsive, because in the main the council have left it alone, except when they decided to close the tip against all advice.

The market leaves something to be desired, but recently the monthly farmers market appears to be going from strength to strength...no doubt the 'subsidiary' and 'sub group' councillor Molyneux will claim responsibility for this, after all him and the Jones boy are always around for a photo shoot when things are going well but mysteriously disappear and go quiet when things do not.

Funny how a couple of years ago the usual labour suspects were on this board slagging off Britcliffe for using everthing as a photo opportunity, but it's all gone quiet since the labour council leader, and our MP are doing exactly the same, but in Spades!!

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Firstly, the old chestnut about expenses has reared it's head and you are dead wrong. See this table for who does and doesn't claim plenty of expenses:



Secondly, this 'sub committee' phrase is more likely to be an unfortunate misinterpretation of a simple expression. They were set up in several wards under the previous administration to keep an eye on how the Area Council was spending its money after one ward was successful in a bid for several hundred thousand pounds. This apparently did not go down well with certain other people, after all it was a success story that they were't involved with and couldn't get their hands on.

In Rishton we dissolved ours as soon as we took control as the poor committee members had been misinformed that they were somehow elected representatives on the Area Council. We cut all ties with them and they made far better headway as a standalone group, bidding for money and simply getting on with tasks around the village, free from the shackles of HBC. It improved them no end.

I'm not entirely sure what the Great Harwood situation is but one news report is hardly a verbatim Google Page Rankingécis of events. I know that the clock tower is being renovated as part of a bid for Pennine Reach money and the same goes with Towngate. Everyone has been pushing for the market to be revived for years and so it is, once a month there is a Farmers Market and it is doing extremely well. We have even invested in log cabins for smallholders to attract more businesses and it has worked.

There is already a Town Centre Committee and has been for some time. Any groups are welcome to make representation to HBC at any time if they have a viable idea and know how to implement it, it's the best way to thrive.

Things are going very well in Great Harwood all told, I really don't see what the problem is.

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Not sure I understand why renovating a clock is part of Pennine Reach. I thought that was the rapid bus transport system that most sane people were against due to barmy bus lanes and urban clearways preventing cars stopping outside local shops on the way to work in the morning.

Is the other work some sort of bribe to get people on board with the bus scheme?

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I'm not entirely sure of the precise details but it's along the lines of showing that we are investing in our own borough as well as applying for money from elsewhere.

It's not bribery at all, it's just that the age of free handouts is over.

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Benito Mussolini wanted the trains to run on time (don't think he succeeded), perhaps work on the clock is so the drivers know how far behind the time-table they are?
:)

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That's what I like about you Less you always see the positives in everything:D

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Many companies now have policies that comments made on employees personal social network sites should not denigrate the company. Apparently this doesn't apply to the publicly funded company of HBC.

A young girl employed as the youth consultant to the Police Comissioner was hammered earlier this year for a twitter comment she made and forced to resign after a media mauling......

Apology call over Hyndburn councillor's 'offensive remark' on Facebook (From Lancashire Telegraph)

I have no doubt that Cllr Pritchard was aiming this comment at a specific person and not the people of Ossy in general, however, as a politician she should realise that everything she says is open to public scrutiny and criticism. Just like the rest of us, she should have been aware that comments made on social media are NEVER private regardless of how you set your security levels...she screwed up...she should apologise instead of using the 'entitled to private life' argument, writing something on the internet is not the same as talking to a mate in a bar over a beer or two.

And the monitoring officer and council spokesman (is that an official job role or is it some weasel who wont put his head above the parapet?) need more training on the possible damage caused by social media.

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Sounds like another storm in a tea cup and stinks of political back biting

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No doubt, and like I said, I think she was having a go at some dipstick that had given her grief on the doorstep, but that aint the point. She should be careful what she puts in print, she screwed up. If you screw up, you apologise.

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Was this alleged insulted persons mentioned in her facebook post? I didn't see it so can't say either way if it was or wasn't. If the comment was as stated in the newspaper it could have meant anyone. I assume the bloke named in the paper is admitting he made a pathetic comment on the doorstep so assumes the comment refers to him :D

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Erm..eh???

Nobody was named individually..(considering the arguments in the last couple of posts...whats your point????)

The bloke in the paper was a 'dear BBC, yours outraged viewer' type person..Cllr Pritchard says she don't know him, I got no reason to dispute this.

This is a local website, that Cllr Pritchard is a member of, I'm on her side here unbelievable as that may seem, its a perfect opportunity for her to state her case that won't be edited

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I was trying to say that the bloke in the paper must think he himself made some pathetic comments if he is assuming she was referring to him.

Does that mean he is admitting to being pathetic? :D

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She doesn't need to, the legal types at Hyndburn Borough Council have said it's nothing to do with the Council and that the claimant accepts that.

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Probably not but he certainly is down right pathetic, as are those in elected office that supported him, once again demonstrating stupidity to a fine art.:rolleyes::D

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As an ordinary Joe who posts occasionally, nobody would really mind if I called you an idiot, even though its abusive and kinda against forum rules, its pretty much accepted that you'd turn a blind eye as long as I don't sustain it on every post. However, if, as a moderator, you called me an idiot, that could be seen by your average professional moaner as an abuse of your position.

See where I'm going here? If you accept responsibility, you have to behave responsibly, and you also have to accept accountability.

It's easy for me to call Ken Moss, Graham Jones or Peter Britcliffe halfwits on this forum, they are unable to respond in kind. Ain't fair, but thats politics for you. I can post jibes, veiled insults and generally take the mickey out of them on a personal level, as politicians they know that they cannot do the same to me. Gordon Brown nailed his coffin shut at the last election for letting his guard down (bloody woman).

I've probably insulted the intelligence of Graham Jones more than most, does that mean it would be acceptable for him to write 'there are some right (expletives) on Accyweb', tarring everyone else for something I've posted?

The council monitoring officer has got this one horribly wrong, Cllr Pritchard should apologise, and she should also go through her facebook friendlist and block the muppet who put this nonsense in the public domain.

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If you don't watch out Guinness you'll be having politicians apologising every day, or asking members of the public to do the same:rolleyes:

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Already happening, there's usually one article daily somewhere about some lame politico apologising for some perceived sleight, whether that be personal or on behalf of the great British public!

Problem is thought it's normally insincere, a sound byte to appease & takes the heat off so they can quietly carry on their conniving & troughing.

HBC at it again
 

You're still upset over London's boss and his apology to scouseland aren't you?

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Not really, being a Scouser I know my own people, there's good, bad & the easily offended wherever you go not just in Liverpool. Some locals really do take to martyrdom over the slightest comment passed about the 'Pool, while others (me included) just grin embarrassedly knowing the truth of it.

But lip service apologists (at which politicos & "C" list celebs excel) really do pish me off!

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I don't know how the resident who felt himself slighted by Councillor Pritchard actually saw the Facebook post. He wrote to the Monitoring Officer (the Council's Executive Director - Legal & Democratic Services - No. 4 in the Council Officers' hierarchy) but she dismissed the complaint, saying that Councillor Pritchard had acted in a personal capacity. The matter was raised at the Council's A.G.M. on 16th May, which I was chairing as the just-appointed Mayor. In summing up I said that I thought Facebook was an excellent method of communication and that as Councillors we should be willing to engage with citizens who wished to communicate with us in this way, rather than using traditional channels such as attending an Area Council meeting. I did say, however, that the dividing line between a Councillor's personal and public life is very fine, and that it's a very woolly area. I said I thought the public had a right to expect certain standards of behaviour from Councillors. In the past the test in such matters was often, "How would it appear to the man/woman in the street? Would they think it acceptable?" I think as Councillors we need to be extremely careful!

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Precisely the point I was trying to make...Sally Bercow #innocentface ;)

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Very wise words Judith, a councilor has never been in the public eye like they are today, and as you say its a fine line between private and public life, but councilors have the right to a private life, its just that the general public don't think so, wonder what the most stupid time you have been contacted by a member of the GP about council work:rolleyes:

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That question follows on from a discussion Jaysay @ I had the other day.:D

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People do sometimes contact us at unexpected times, such as Sunday afternoon. However, personally I don't compartmentalise my life. I'm a Licensed Lay Reader at St. Paul's Church, Ossy and am often spoken to about resident/Council matters when I'm at Church. I never object to this and feel it's only right I should be accessible to people. I might be old-fashioned but at my Civic Service last weekend I chose the hymn, "Brother, Sister, let me serve you" to express how I felt about my public duties. People sometimes say that religion and politics don't mix but I prefer to substitute the words "faith" and "community" and find that these are complementary to one another, not in conflict.

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I think the most stupid times I heard of councilors being contacted, were 6-30am on a Saturday Morning, and 10-30pm on a Saturday night, to me that is just a tad OTT:rolleyes:

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great things are answer machines

they help filter out the idiots :D

although if i was a councilor and someone rang me at 6.30 am any day of the week my response would probbably be at the local papers by 6.35am

probbably why im not a councilor :D

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When somebody rings you at these times you don't expect it to be council business especially if, as was the case, a serious illness was affecting the family, you only imagine the worst:(

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i agree jay its out of order and why anyone ringing me at that time would get an earfull esecially if it was a trivial matter

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Oh you don't know just how trivial some of these things really are:eek: didn't realise a local councilor would be expected to move mountains before breakfast, then part the Red Sea before lunch:D

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jesus christ lol

oh hang on that was moses

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Fair play to you Cllr. Pritchard, a very real apology without any spin.

Council chief Clare Pritchard?s apology for her Facebook remark - Accrington Observer

Not too bright of the alleged journalist, Jon Macpherson classing one very minor expletive as 'derogatory remarks'. Guess he's aspiring to the lofty heights of the Daily Mail tearoom.

p.s. Hope you managed to find and delete the complete t----r on fb who grassed you up in the first place ;)

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well one of her friends posted her remark on here so a couple at least need removing from her "friends" list for been gobsh1tes lol

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My first thoughts were what the hell has Facebook got to do with her being a councilor and why get the council involved in the first place, another Jerno with nothing to do but pick his nose:rolleyes:

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when you shove yourself into teh public eye you can guarentee the public eye will be watching especially for slip ups

you can be arrested for comments made to friends on facebook despite them only been for friends eyes

best bet is if yu want to call someone a name ring your palls up and tell them about it

much safer

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Ya if your going to say something controversial best not to say it on facebook, especial if your slagging of members of the public, one of which might be one of your FB friends :rolleyes:

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Its tough in the Public Eye, But i will say i agreed wi her comment.:D

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I'll have your Visa removed:D

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As far as resident phone calls are concerned, I'm glad when it's a genuine call! The times when I'm in another room of the house and I break my neck dashing to the phone before it defaults to voice mail, only to find that it's one of our friends from a call centre on the other side of the world, or worse still the call cuts off as soon as you answer it! I'm registered with the telephone preference service but these calls get through nevertheless!

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theres a legal loophole judith as long as they say they are providing an advisory servive they can get away with it.A pittifull excuse but effective for them.

if they were selling you ppi it would be a different story

soon more will click onto this loophole and people will be ringing saying they are advising you about windows for your house

also despite claiming to be the best in the buisness BT claim they cant block overseas telemarketers so been on that list is pretty much useless as it only cuts out sales calls from within the uk

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I'm just wondering how they go on when your on the callers preferred list and ex-directory

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I am ex-directory but still get them.

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Ya can't understand it Margaret, they must get the open directory from BT which to me is totally wrong

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Thing is, yeh buy stuff online n many of em sell yer e-mail addy n phone numbers. thats life.

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For me, caller I.D. is the answer. If there is not a name to accompany the number I disregard the call!!

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facebook sold your info mate

theres no point removing your landline number its been sold multiple times now

swines aint they

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Credit where it's due. Congratulations to HBC and Claire Pritchard for getting £1.9m from the austerity mob at Westminster.

New life for derelict East Lancashire homes (From Lancashire Telegraph)

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Ya Hyndburn got a mention on TV yesterday, in the same breath as Manchester and Liverpool:eek:

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Let's hope they don't involve Hyndburn Homes in any scheme they come up, no point throwing the money away:mad:

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Think the money is for town centre redevelopment Dave, so no need for HH to be within a million miles of it;)

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They shouldn't be within a million miles of Accrington :rolleyes:

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Seems you've had a bad experience with HH Dave:)

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He loves them really :D

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I'd rather have a lifetime's supply of season tickets to Ewood than deal with them

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How depressing, you'd be hoping for a short life if that wish came true.

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I have had loads of grief caused by Hyndburn Homes.
I have used the search facility here to review all the hassle they caused me.

I will be moving out soon and hope never to need their housing ever again.

When I move to private rented shortly, I will be paying £41 a week more, but when I look at what I will gain for that I wish I had done it years ago. Looking back, I used to spend that per week on bingo !

The 'extras' that I don't have now -
Solid plastered walls - not unplastered hardboard on studding
Hardwood fire doors throughout - not hardboard
Built less than 10 years ago to higher building insulation standards
Larger living spaces
An extra bedroom
TWO bathrooms, one is en-suite
A secure door entry access system
A security alarm system
A stairwell that is carpeted (less noise)
A luxurious large fitted kitchen with appliances
Windows that close properly (no broken handles)
Plenty of electricity sockets and 'no surface mounted' switches
Good floorcoverings and decoration throughout
No surface mounted pipework.
No bulges in ceilings.
A balcony - WOW ! (even though it is ground floor)

PS I will no longer need a tow rope (parked next to the only window which would open wide enough for emergency exit).

HBC at it again
 

Luxury indeed!
If you ever get really depressed it will save you the bus fare into town to use the high rise car park.
;)

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tehy are a joke and one of teh worst housing assotiations out there.Not even a local company as teh name would suggest they are owned by countour housing another cowboy outfit at best.

aftert seeing some cases of what Hyndburn Homes expect folk to live in id put them as slum landlords

on rothwell avenue half teh houses went to sain vincents and teh other half wentto hyndburn homes

it is very easy to see which company owns which properties

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Ironic isn't it that Graham Jones has recently been harping on about rogue landlords and the council have implemented a landlord licencing scheme.

They are also the company who 'fix' the councils toilets. So far they have 'fixed' a leak in Peel St toilets five times. No doubt the council are paying the bill and nobody is asking questions.

Even John Wayne would have been proud to have been a cowboy of such stature

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They waste money on propaganda telling you how wonderful they are -
Glossy magazines full of self praise delivered several times a year, is their way of Google Page Ranking.

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I didn't say that!!!! I said P...R...public relations

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I found several Hyndburn Homes propaganda videos on youtube:eek:

If you are in the mood for sick humour watch some.

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same leak 5 times ?

its the job that keeps on giving

i dont suppose anyone has entertained the idea of getting a plumber that can do it first time ?

as for slum landlord i cant see HH getting any bad rep because even though the council say they have nothing more to do with teh properties the last time i rented from HH threatening letters came on HBC paperwork and teh same collection team as council tax

when i move dinto teh propperty i had to play for my own plasterer to do teh ceiling in my living room because HH said it wa sperfectly acceptable to have plaster dropping on your head.After 2 years i had enough and the final breaking point was when HH refused to admitthere was a damp problem and all my carpets strated getting fungi and black mould rise up from the floor.Ruined my carpets and still denied a problem

funny thing is after i moved out they totally re did teh roof,replaced windows and put a new kitchen in

but there wasnt a problem

anyway i doubt jones will have owt to say while its a labour council

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Are you about to be a "bottom ender" or is this not in Clayton?

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Yes - bottom ender - just awaiting credit check (which I know will be perfect) before I can sign the tenancy agreement.

Pickfords are scheduled to come and quote me for packing and removal - I expect to be out of here before end of July.

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Well they can't be all that bad then ;)

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Just wondering here, I've lived in my current HH flat for over 20 years and I'm quite happy with it, if I've ever reported any problems they've been attended to within the time stipulated, the only problem I've had is when they messed about with locks on the outside doors, which was stupid to say the least, but apart from that I can't complain really

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when HH took over any properties that were looked after were laft as is and any that were a complete dump and dangerous to live in got left as is also

its pure luck of teh draw if you get a good property its no thanks to HH but the previous tennant

when i was applying i pointed out tehre was a house available up ferngore but was told it was too good for someone like me.When i asked whatthat meant they said well your a single bloke yet gave me teh same sized propperty on rothwell avenue

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I've been in my place since 1991 accyman which was well before HH came to fruition, so that's probably the reason I can't fault them, but has I said if I report a problem its usually sorted out pretty quick, think the last one was when one of my kitchen taps went south and they actually replaced the tap within a day.