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jaysay 04-07-2012 17:52

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 1001184)
Cllr. Ken's on the dog dirt, and night vision committees.

Oh sorry, forgot about that;)

Ken Moss 05-08-2012 13:52

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Better late than never, the surveys were done for free by the local volunteer Green Spaces Forum and 'Friends Of' groups. The results were then incorporated into the Communities and Wellbeing Overview & Scrutiny Committee's report.

It didn't cost HBC a bean.

Neil 05-08-2012 14:12

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 1007330)
Better late than never, the surveys were done for free by the local volunteer Green Spaces Forum and 'Friends Of' groups. The results were then incorporated into the Communities and Wellbeing Overview & Scrutiny Committee's report.

It didn't cost HBC a bean.

Yo have spoilt it now by telling them who did the survey, they will have to find something else to moan about.

I did think about explaining all about it at the time but must have been busy :D

jaysay 05-08-2012 17:36

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 1007335)
Yo have spoilt it now by telling them who did the survey, they will have to find something else to moan about.

I did think about explaining all about it at the time but must have been busy :D

Neil you know as well as I do there is no such thing as a free lunch no matter how you serve it up, you can guarantee that somebody somewhere has paid for this, usually the tax payer

Neil 05-08-2012 18:06

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1007367)
Neil you know as well as I do there is no such thing as a free lunch no matter how you serve it up, you can guarantee that somebody somewhere has paid for this, usually the tax payer

I am not paid for the work I do with several local charities.
I don't usually mention things because there is always someone who wants to ridicule local things and they are usually to idle to do anything better themselves.

jaysay 05-08-2012 18:14

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 1007375)
I am not paid for the work I do with several local charities.
I don't usually mention things because there is always someone who wants to ridicule local things and they are usually to idle to do anything better themselves.

Different scenario Neil, when I here that things are done within the public sector for nout, it doesn't fly, HBC will not be using material from surveys where those doing the survey have done the work out of the goodness of the hearts, if HBC didn't pay somebody will and it WILL have come from the public purse, somewhere along the line:rolleyes:

Ken Moss 06-08-2012 06:54

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1007376)
Different scenario Neil, when I here that things are done within the public sector for nout, it doesn't fly, HBC will not be using material from surveys where those doing the survey have done the work out of the goodness of the hearts, if HBC didn't pay somebody will and it WILL have come from the public purse, somewhere along the line:rolleyes:

This is from a man who used to be at the heart of local politics! A member of the council tells you something in writing on a public forum and you say it's nonsense. How could I possibly state that and get away with it if it's not true? Neil backs me up and you still come back with the 'cobblers' line.

This survey was free, it didn't cost anyone anything at HBC, it was gratis, costless, totally unpaid for.

And you find something to moan about.

garinda 06-08-2012 06:58

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 1007335)
Yo have spoilt it now by telling them who did the survey, they will have to find something else to moan about.

I did think about explaining all about it at the time but must have been busy :D


Personally I think it's funny.

Yet another example of just how bad this current lot of councillors are at public relations, especially in regards to the press.

'The survey, undertaken by independent consultants, quizzed 181 local parents...'

Hyndburn play area smoke ban wins support (From Lancashire Telegraph)

So basically it was Gayle Knight, and the Green candidate woman from that 'ethical' co-op, asking people if they thought that blowing smoke in a kiddie's face, whilst it was strapped in a baby swing, was wrong.

Hardly shock findings. More like common sense.

Not up there with night vision dog turds, but still amusingly bad, and yet another example of this Labour council's skill at public misinformation.

It's like them making a big song and dance about the Portas pilot thing, as if it was already in the bag. When in reality they'd acquired a lottery ticket, and had a miniscule chance of winning a prize.

Looks bad, when nothing comes of it. Which also happened with the announcement about Blackburn Road's tarting up, which again came to nothing.

Some of these numpties may now be responsible for massive budgets, finances provided by the tax payer, but if their role was a professional job, most of them wouldn't get a reply if they applied for it, nevermind get a first interview.

Always more impressive if you can actually play a tune...when blowing your own trumpet.

Rather than just making some big din.

:rolleyes:

garinda 06-08-2012 07:07

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 1007450)
This is from a man who used to be at the heart of local politics! A member of the council tells you something in writing on a public forum and you say it's nonsense. How could I possibly state that and get away with it if it's not true? Neil backs me up and you still come back with the 'cobblers' line.

This survey was free, it didn't cost anyone anything at HBC, it was gratis, costless, totally unpaid for.

And you find something to moan about.

What do they say?

Something about closing the stable door, only after the horse has bolted.

I think it might be better to concentrate on the damage you're doing to yourselves via the press, rather than worrying about us on here.

;)

jaysay 06-08-2012 08:48

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 1007452)
What do they say?

Something about closing the stable door, only after the horse has bolted.

I think it might be better to concentrate on the damage you're doing to yourselves via the press, rather than worrying about us on here.

;)

Is it any wonder that I tend to question anything Councillor Moss says on this Wed Site, after all prior to election he was on daily with his political diatribe, using the site as his own propaganda tool. yet when elected and questions were asked neither he nor his cohorts were able to comment. Its the old scenario you can say anything you want in opposition, but questions become harder to answer while in power

cashman 06-08-2012 09:01

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1007464)
Is it any wonder that I tend to question anything Councillor Moss says on this Wed Site, after all prior to election he was on daily with his political diatribe, using the site as his own propaganda tool. yet when elected and questions were asked neither he nor his cohorts were able to comment. Its the old scenario you can say anything you want in opposition, but questions become harder to answer while in power

Whilst that may be the case, when in or out of power, The torys aint the balls to come anywhere near accyweb, fact! At least this lot do comment occasionally.:rolleyes:

jaysay 06-08-2012 09:14

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1007471)
Whilst that may be the case, when in or out of power, The tories ain't the balls to come anywhere near accyweb, fact! At least this lot do comment occasionally.:rolleyes:

think its a case of what ever floats your boat, and they only come on here when its proactive, didn't see much of um when the benches moved from outside the Market Hall, although to be fair they did send the heavy mod round to see Rindi :rolleyes:

Wynonie Harris 06-08-2012 09:19

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1007481)
they did send the heavy mod round to see Rindi :rolleyes:

What?...they sent Paul Weller over to see Mr G? Hope he made him a cuppa! ;)

garinda 06-08-2012 09:47

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 1007487)
What?...they sent Paul Weller over to see Mr G? Hope he made him a cuppa! ;)

Of course.

It would be Bad Manners not to.

Though to balance things out, I made sure she didn't have anywhere to park her arse, and didn't offer her a seat.

Bad Manners -- Ne-Ne Na-Na Na-Na Nu-Nu (Studio, TOTP) - YouTube

:D

jaysay 06-08-2012 10:00

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 1007494)
Of course.

It would be Bad Manners not to.

Though to balance things out, I made sure she didn't have anywhere to park her arse, and didn't offer her a seat.

Bad Manners -- Ne-Ne Na-Na Na-Na Nu-Nu (Studio, TOTP) - YouTube

:D

It was like over the garden wall then Rindi:D


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