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jaysay 08-07-2012 10:28

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 1001639)
And the biggest office building in the world is the Pentagon;) Thing is tho', you can't privatise the military ... altho' "private security forces" seem to be popular in the US.:rolleyes: And I don't see the private sector as being all that efficient. Unless that efficiency is directed towards shady dealings which benefit only the top execs ... Barclay's comes to mind for some reason:D

It used to be "we've got the ships, we've got the men, we've got the money too" ... not any more. The bottomless pit no longer exists, except as a piece of empty rhetoric.

Eric all public services think they have a bottomless pit of money, that money is taxpayers money, every 4 or 5 years the politicos tell us they will spend that in the best way, they publish a manifesto, setting out their plans for the voting fodder, then the day after the election they through it in the bin and do exactly what they want and that's in every country in the world

maxthecollie 08-07-2012 19:27

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Why not get " Cardboard Soldiers" just like the cardboard traffic cops on the M55 not long after it opened.

Mancie 08-07-2012 21:33

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I don't think this is about the reality of what we can or cannot afford..it is the reality of the usual across the board spending cuts that always follow a Tory government.. this and past Tory governments simply cut and slash.
To create unemployment by sacking millions of people (a large majority under the age of 35) is a lazy not thought out policy that wil come back to haunt the economy of this country in years to come.

Lucysgirl 22-07-2012 10:03

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 1001826)
I don't think this is about the reality of what we can or cannot afford..it is the reality of the usual across the board spending cuts that always follow a Tory government.. this and past Tory governments simply cut and slash.
To create unemployment by sacking millions of people (a large majority under the age of 35) is a lazy not thought out policy that wil come back to haunt the economy of this country in years to come.

My late husband was a regular in HM forces during Harold Wilson's reign in the 1960s. Maybe you'd like to explain why Wilson cut their allowances and cut their numbers making tens of thousands redundant in that period. It was noticeable that the men with most experience and thus had larger wages were the target of the cuts. It was a period when Kenyon Asian refugees were streaming into Britain, which meant long council housing waiting lists and not many job vacancies.

jaysay 22-07-2012 10:20

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Originally Posted by Lucysgirl (Post 1004052)
My late husband was a regular in HM forces during Harold Wilson's reign in the 1960s. Maybe you'd like to explain why Wilson cut their allowances and cut their numbers making tens of thousands redundant in that period. It was noticeable that the men with most experience and thus had larger wages were the target of the cuts. It was a period when Kenyon Asian refugees were streaming into Britain, which meant long council housing waiting lists and not many job vacancies.

Ya Lucy and wasn't it Harold Wilson's Government that is the only government ever to cut spending on the NHS, think it was back in 67 round about the same time that the pound has ever been devalued

cmonstanley 22-07-2012 10:40

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good job it was de-valued then or we would have no exports now.

jaysay 22-07-2012 10:43

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1004063)
good job it was de-valued then or we would have no exports now.

Now you've just confirmed your a total twit for want of an a:rolleyes:

MargaretR 22-07-2012 11:00

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I recall that the influx of Ugandan asians was 1971/2.
I can be that specific because I worked that one year at DHSS (now DWP) in Blackburn and spent 6 months of that year doing nothing but interviewing those immigrant asians.

susie123 22-07-2012 12:20

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Originally Posted by Lucysgirl (Post 1004052)
My late husband was a regular in HM forces during Harold Wilson's reign in the 1960s. Maybe you'd like to explain why Wilson cut their allowances and cut their numbers making tens of thousands redundant in that period. It was noticeable that the men with most experience and thus had larger wages were the target of the cuts. It was a period when Kenyon Asian refugees were streaming into Britain, which meant long council housing waiting lists and not many job vacancies.

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 1004068)
I recall that the influx of Ugandan asians was 1971/2.
I can be that specific because I worked that one year at DHSS (now DWP) in Blackburn and spent 6 months of that year doing nothing but interviewing those immigrant asians.

Yes Margaret, the Ugandans arrived at the beginning of the seventies while as Lucysgirl says Kenyans came here in the sixties.

History of asylum in London : Commonwealth migration and non-European refugees

However looking at the figures in the link above the figures are surprisingly small - tens of thousands only.

cmonstanley 22-07-2012 12:29

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1004066)
Now you've just confirmed your a total twit for want of an a:rolleyes:

it was funny at the time :D

MargaretR 22-07-2012 12:36

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Originally Posted by susie123 (Post 1004077)
Yes Margaret, the Ugandans arrived at the beginning of the seventies while as Lucysgirl says Kenyans came here in the sixties.

History of asylum in London : Commonwealth migration and non-European refugees

However looking at the figures in the link above the figures are surprisingly small - tens of thousands only.

.....because they came to Blackburn instead of London

jaysay 22-07-2012 17:40

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1004081)
it was funny at the time :D

Wasn't if you were alive, your hardly that now never mind then, well brain wise anyway:rolleyes:


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