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gynn 29-07-2012 20:31

Mitt Romney
 
He's the American people's only way of ousting Barack Obama from a second term as American president, and Mitt Romney is on a World Tour to present himself as a World Leader in waiting......

Its not going too well, though. The sabre rattling of his advisors in saying Israel would be fully justified in launching a unilateral nuclear strike on Iran didn't go down too well, so he quickly changed his stance to saying that Israel should retain the right to defend itself.

This after he insulted the United Kingdom by saying we couldn't organise a p*ss up in a brewery (or words to that effect).

Oh dear! Perhaps he'd better get back to the place he knows best, among sadly ignorant people who are taken in by his ultra naive views and think his dyed hair is a plus factor.

And lets all pray he doesn't get anywhere near the White House!

kestrelx 30-07-2012 06:55

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gynn (Post 1005848)
He's the American people's only way of ousting Barack Obama from a second term as American president, and Mitt Romney is on a World Tour to present himself as a World Leader in waiting......

Its not going too well, though. The sabre rattling of his advisors in saying Israel would be fully justified in launching a unilateral nuclear strike on Iran didn't go down too well, so he quickly changed his stance to saying that Israel should retain the right to defend itself.

This after he insulted the United Kingdom by saying we couldn't organise a p*ss up in a brewery (or words to that effect).

Oh dear! Perhaps he'd better get back to the place he knows best, among sadly ignorant people who are taken in by his ultra naive views and think his dyed hair is a plus factor.

And lets all pray he doesn't get anywhere near the White House!

He's just another controlled Politician :confused:- well he's controlled by money - if they say the wrong things no bodies going to finance their campaign. So he has to say things that he thinks will please the backers - like this stance against Iran in support of Israel. That's why the Bushes got in twice - father and son - because they have big oil money backers.:cool:

jaysay 30-07-2012 08:02

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gynn (Post 1005848)
He's the American people's only way of ousting Barack Obama from a second term as American president, and Mitt Romney is on a World Tour to present himself as a World Leader in waiting......

Its not going too well, though. The sabre rattling of his advisors in saying Israel would be fully justified in launching a unilateral nuclear strike on Iran didn't go down too well, so he quickly changed his stance to saying that Israel should retain the right to defend itself.

This after he insulted the United Kingdom by saying we couldn't organise a p*ss up in a brewery (or words to that effect).

Oh dear! Perhaps he'd better get back to the place he knows best, among sadly ignorant people who are taken in by his ultra naive views and think his dyed hair is a plus factor.

And lets all pray he doesn't get anywhere near the White House!

No doubt he will be christened Nit Romney before too long:rolleyes:

Tealeaf 30-07-2012 08:51

Re: Mitt Romney
 
For some newly elected American presidents, there is a ritual of them visiting their ancestoral homeland. In Mitt's case, that would involve coming to Lancashire because his great great grandaddy Romney emigrated from the red rose county as a newly converted Mormon. I'm not exactly sure where - there seems to be some conflicting evidence - but being the thicko that Mitt is - my guess is Ossy. I wonder if he turns up the flies will still be there to greet him? What will he have to say then?

mobertol 30-07-2012 13:12

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Was chatting to Eric about this guy funnily enough last night on FB - he said it would be a great step backwards for American women if he gets elected and suggested taking an M out of Mormon to see what he really is!;)

Michael1954 30-07-2012 14:26

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mobertol (Post 1005917)
Was chatting to Eric about this guy funnily enough last night on FB - he said it would be a great step backwards for American women if he gets elected and suggested taking an M out of Mormon to see what he really is!;)

An ormon?

cashman 30-07-2012 14:29

Re: Mitt Romney
 
moron fits nicely.:D

jaysay 30-07-2012 17:31

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1005928)
moron fits nicely.:D

Especially when somebody calls himself Mitt:eek::D

susie123 30-07-2012 17:56

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1005966)
Especially when somebody calls himself Mitt:eek::D

Mutt suits him better.

jaysay 30-07-2012 17:59

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by susie123 (Post 1005971)
Mutt suits him better.

That's an insult to stray dogs:D

katex 30-07-2012 18:11

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Talking of dogs.

Don't mind admitting had to look this guy up. 'Course I honed in on the story of him going on holiday and carried his dog on the roof of the car.:eek:

Think I am being kind in describing that as a little eccentric ?

Mitt Romney dog incident - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

jaysay 30-07-2012 18:32

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by katex (Post 1005974)
Talking of dogs.

Don't mind admitting had to look this guy up. 'Course I honed in on the story of him going on holiday and carried his dog on the roof of the car.:eek:

Think I am being kind in describing that as a little eccentric ?

Mitt Romney dog incident - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This is frightening thinking that one day this guy could actually have his finger on the button:eek::eek::eek:

Gordon Booth 30-07-2012 18:57

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1005978)
This is frightening thinking that one day this guy could actually have his finger on the button:eek::eek::eek:

I agree jaysay, he sounds like he could be our ticket to WW3. Or at least a major war in the Middle East.

kestrelx 30-07-2012 20:04

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mobertol (Post 1005917)
Was chatting to Eric about this guy funnily enough last night on FB - he said it would be a great step backwards for American women if he gets elected and suggested taking an M out of Mormon to see what he really is!;)

Is he called "Mitt" cause he can't keep his Mitts off women - hence he's a step backward into chavanism! :D

DaveinGermany 30-07-2012 20:12

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 1006003)
Is he called "Mitt" cause he can't keep his Mitts off women - hence he's a step backward into chavanism! :D

So he's decked out in Burberry & bling is he ? :)

kestrelx 30-07-2012 20:30

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 1006005)
So he's decked out in Burberry & bling is he ? :)

No he's more of a Hugh Hefner, pipe smoking type! :rolleyes: :D

DaveinGermany 30-07-2012 20:41

Re: Mitt Romney
 
:rolleyes: Ricochet ;) :)

jaysay 31-07-2012 09:06

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 1006016)
No he's more of a Hugh Hefner, pipe smoking type! :rolleyes: :D

Hugh Hefner without the brass:D

gynn 31-07-2012 19:40

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gynn (Post 1005848)
Its not going too well, though. The sabre rattling of his advisors in saying Israel would be fully justified in launching a unilateral nuclear strike on Iran didn't go down too well, so he quickly changed his stance to saying that Israel should retain the right to defend itself.

This after he insulted the United Kingdom by saying we couldn't organise a p*ss up in a brewery (or words to that effect).

Sadly things went from bad to worse as the tour continued.

In a keynote speech, he declared Jerusalem to be the capital of Israel, even though US policy holds that the city's designation is a matter for negotiations between the Israelis and Palestinians.

He was accused of racism after he told an audience of Jewish donors that cultural differences explained why Israel's economy was much larger than that of the Palestinians.

He tried to praise the Polish trade union movement, Solidarity, for helping to topple Communist rule, but Solidarity were not having anything to do with him, given his history of attacks on trade unions in the US.

During the whole tour, he only answered three questions from US reporters, prompting his Press Secretary to answer legitimate questions from the reporters with "Kiss my ass" and "Shove it"

The only thing missing was his trousers falling down as he boarded the flight home, which would have been entirely in keeping with the tone of his tour.

:(

cashman 31-07-2012 20:38

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Like i always said= "All the clowns aint just in the circus.

jaysay 01-08-2012 08:35

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Seams he could be some body from the George W Bush school of impeccable presidential candidates:rolleyes:

Eric 01-08-2012 17:03

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gynn (Post 1006178)
Sadly things went from bad to worse as the tour continued.

In a keynote speech, he declared Jerusalem to be the capital of Israel, even though US policy holds that the city's designation is a matter for negotiations between the Israelis and Palestinians.

He was accused of racism after he told an audience of Jewish donors that cultural differences explained why Israel's economy was much larger than that of the Palestinians.

He tried to praise the Polish trade union movement, Solidarity, for helping to topple Communist rule, but Solidarity were not having anything to do with him, given his history of attacks on trade unions in the US.

During the whole tour, he only answered three questions from US reporters, prompting his Press Secretary to answer legitimate questions from the reporters with "Kiss my ass" and "Shove it"

The only thing missing was his trousers falling down as he boarded the flight home, which would have been entirely in keeping with the tone of his tour.

:(

You should perhaps keep in mind that for most yanks the rest of the world doesn't exist ... or at least, exists only in order to be ignored or invaded.:rolleyes: Criticism of Romney by the foreign media will probably increase his popularity among the GOP faithful. As long as he remains commited to lowering taxes, expanding the military, giving the private sector carte blanche to do anything they damn well want, banning abortion, breaking unions, making access to guns easier, repealing Obamacare ... well you get the picture ... millions of yanks will vote for him ... even if his pants fall down as he accepts the nomination of the Republican Party.

DaveinGermany 01-08-2012 17:38

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 1006344)
... even if his pants fall down.

Thought that was a Clinton trick ?? :rolleyes:

jaysay 01-08-2012 17:48

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 1006360)
Thought that was a Clinton trick ?? :rolleyes:

Only when he was signing his Moniker:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

susie123 01-08-2012 17:52

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 1006344)
You should perhaps keep in mind that for most yanks the rest of the world doesn't exist ... or at least, exists only in order to be ignored or invaded.:rolleyes: Criticism of Romney by the foreign media will probably increase his popularity among the GOP faithful. As long as he remains commited to lowering taxes, expanding the military, giving the private sector carte blanche to do anything they damn well want, banning abortion, breaking unions, making access to guns easier, repealing Obamacare ... well you get the picture ... millions of yanks will vote for him ... even if his pants fall down as he accepts the nomination of the Republican Party.

True but depressing Eric. :( And scary.

Less 01-08-2012 17:52

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 1006003)
Is he called "Mitt" cause he can't keep his Mitts off women - hence he's a step backward into chavanism! :D

You've spend too long in front of a mirror,
Chav - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Perhaps you're still in touch with the 60's, did you mean chauvinism?
Chauvinism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Whichever you meant, managed to show your intelligence, (lack of), once more.
:D

Gordon Booth 01-08-2012 18:09

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 1006365)
You've spend too long in front of a mirror,
Chav - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Perhaps you're still in touch with the 60's, did you mean chauvinism?
Chauvinism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Whichever you meant, managed to show your intelligence, (lack of), once more.
:D

Whichever he meant,Less, neither applies to keeping your hands on or off women.
Wonder what he did mean?

Less 01-08-2012 18:46

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 1006369)
Whichever he meant,Less, neither applies to keeping your hands on or off women.
Wonder what he did mean?

We aren't likely to find out, he probably doesn't know, as for women, I long to re-apply hands on experience, with a deep sigh and thank you Madam afterwards.

http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smile...nnabis-034.gif

kestrelx 02-08-2012 08:36

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 1006373)
We aren't likely to find out, he probably doesn't know, as for women, I long to re-apply hands on experience, with a deep sigh and thank you Madam afterwards.

http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smile...nnabis-034.gif

God help her! :D

Ken Moss 04-08-2012 15:53

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1006259)
Seams he could be some body from the George W Bush school of impeccable presidential candidates:rolleyes:

I haven't seen much of Romney but since the dear ol' folks of the USA officially elected George W Bush (possibly the most dangerous man who ever walked the planet) as their premier citizen TWICE it wouldn't surprise me to see Obama replaced with an inferior candidate.

God bless America.

Eric 04-08-2012 18:28

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 1007141)
I haven't seen much of Romney but since the dear ol' folks of the USA officially elected George W Bush (possibly the most dangerous man who ever walked the planet) as their premier citizen TWICE it wouldn't surprise me to see Obama replaced with an inferior candidate.

God bless America.

Romney is worse than Bush. GW was merely a power hungry, amoral, opportunistic sonofabitch riding on the rep of his daddy. Romney quite probably believes the bs he is spouting. Under a Romney administration, the US will once again be undisputed biggest threat to world peace and security ... And don't forget, you folks who are familiar with how the system works down there, he will have two years with the benefit of a GOP dominated Congress.

If there is a bright side, a Romney win will benefit Canada (I know, that really doesn't turn anyone's crank over on that side of the pond;)) ... Keystone pipeline will win quick approval, which means that bitumen from the Athabasca tar sands will be flowing to US ports and refineries. One only has to take a quick glance at the Middle East to understand why the yanks prefer to buy our oil:rolleyes: And there will be strong US support for Canadian claims in the Arctic.

And it is important to see what kind of neo-fascist, gun toting, born again, nigger hating (but only in private:rolleyes:), gay basher he chooses as his running mate. But, he could fool us all on that one and pick someone like Con Rice. Of course, it wouldn't matter all that much, the VP is still a cipher. John Nance Garner, FDR's VP, once observed that the job wasn't worth "a bucket of warm p(ee)" ... thing's ain't changed much.

jaysay 05-08-2012 09:26

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 1007169)
Romney is worse than Bush. GW was merely a power hungry, amoral, opportunistic sonofabitch riding on the rep of his daddy. Romney quite probably believes the bs he is spouting. Under a Romney administration, the US will once again be undisputed biggest threat to world peace and security ... And don't forget, you folks who are familiar with how the system works down there, he will have two years with the benefit of a GOP dominated Congress.

If there is a bright side, a Romney win will benefit Canada (I know, that really doesn't turn anyone's crank over on that side of the pond;)) ... Keystone pipeline will win quick approval, which means that bitumen from the Athabasca tar sands will be flowing to US ports and refineries. One only has to take a quick glance at the Middle East to understand why the yanks prefer to buy our oil:rolleyes: And there will be strong US support for Canadian claims in the Arctic.

And it is important to see what kind of neo-fascist, gun toting, born again, nigger hating (but only in private:rolleyes:), gay basher he chooses as his running mate. But, he could fool us all on that one and pick someone like Con Rice. Of course, it wouldn't matter all that much, the VP is still a cipher. John Nance Garner, FDR's VP, once observed that the job wasn't worth "a bucket of warm p(ee)" ... thing's ain't changed much.

Thought Condi had quite politics, mind you that doesn't stand for much, Tony's trying to make a comeback over here Eric:rolleyes:

Eric 07-08-2012 20:24

Re: Mitt Romney
 
For those of you who actually have an interest in the run up to the election, and in US politics in general, keep an eye out for celebrity endorsements. We don't have such things in our politics, and I doubt you have them in yours; but in the US they carry a lot of weight. So far, Brad Pitt and his gorgeous old lady have endorsed Obama (altho' Pitt's mom has come out in support of Romney;)) Clint Eastwood has endorsed Romney ... Dirty Harry, go figure, eh:D No doubt, other celebs will clamber on one or the other bandwagon. I've no doubt that Oprah will come out for Obama; and that is a biggie ... Oprah has a large and loyal following.

jaysay 08-08-2012 09:15

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 1007822)
For those of you who actually have an interest in the run up to the election, and in US politics in general, keep an eye out for celebrity endorsements. We don't have such things in our politics, and I doubt you have them in yours; but in the US they carry a lot of weight. So far, Brad Pitt and his gorgeous old lady have endorsed Obama (altho' Pitt's mom has come out in support of Romney;)) Clint Eastwood has endorsed Romney ... Dirty Harry, go figure, eh:D No doubt, other celebs will clamber on one or the other bandwagon. I've no doubt that Oprah will come out for Obama; and that is a biggie ... Oprah has a large and loyal following.

That's always been the same over the pond, I mean one big star told his fans I'll Be Back, then sodded of to be the Governor of California:D

Wynonie Harris 08-08-2012 09:29

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Bit surprised at Clint endorsing Romney. Always thought he was a well-sussed sort of feller. Obviously not! :rolleyes:

jaysay 08-08-2012 09:32

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 1007879)
Bit surprised at Clint endorsing Romney. Always thought he was a well-sussed sort of feller. Obviously not! :rolleyes:

He is getting on a bit Wyn:D

Less 08-08-2012 09:55

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 1007822)
Oprah has a large and loyal following.

You mean she's come off her diet AGAIN?
https://encrypted-tbn2.google.com/im...-pZHYGvg6RFZox

susie123 11-08-2012 15:08

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Another slip up by the next president...

BBC News - Romney slips up by introducing Ryan as 'next president'

jaysay 11-08-2012 15:15

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by susie123 (Post 1008443)

Sounds like he's George W with the brains removed:rolleyes:

cashman 11-08-2012 15:25

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by susie123 (Post 1008443)

His mam made the biggest slip up. By having him.

Eric 11-08-2012 18:19

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by susie123 (Post 1008443)


The biggest slip up is choosing Ryan. I think dumbass Romney has just guaranteed Obama's re-election.:alright:

Wynonie Harris 11-08-2012 20:34

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 1008461)
The biggest slip up is choosing Ryan. I think dumbass Romney has just guaranteed Obama's re-election.:alright:

One bit of good news then! :)

jaysay 12-08-2012 09:14

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 1008480)
One bit of good news then! :)

Its just great to hear good news occasionally:D

Eric 12-08-2012 18:57

Re: Mitt Romney
 
I have to admit that I enjoy American politics; so, I made a point of understanding it. You can have fun following the campaign. See how many scandals come out. (Read the first line of Rochester's "Ramble in St. James' Park." In fact, read the whole poem ... it's a hoot:alright:) And you can have fun figuring out how many times a candidate can fit "God" into a short speech. See all the unfaithful and divorced Congressmen praising the "Family". It's a blast ... and, like WWE, so obviously fake.

But the yanks lap it up (as long as it doesn't interfere too much with football and the World Series:rolleyes:)) However, there are several million US voters who are commited to neither party. And this is the constituency that determines who is elected Prez. What Romney needed to do when he selected his running mate was to appeal to these voters. Instead ... and it has most political commentators shaking their heads (I wonder how many have more than one head:confused:) ... he chose someone who appeals to folks who would vote for him anyway.:eek: And someone who, at the same time, will alienate the voters he needs to put him over the top.

I may be wrong, but I don't see anything that can stop Obama now. Hell, not even if Michelle posed nude for "Hot Chocolate":D It will be close because, for too many yanks, Obama is still a nigg ... Oops, almost said it.;). But I don't see the swing voters supporting a ticket of far right and lunatic right.

gynn 13-08-2012 13:19

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 1008659)
I may be wrong, but I don't see anything that can stop Obama now........I don't see the swing voters supporting a ticket of far right and lunatic right.

Watching Sky News over here, we tend to see a bit of Fox News coverage of American politics (same owner, the 'humble' Rupert Murdoch). That gives us the impression that Obama has made a complete mess of the Presidency, and the only possible solution is for him to be ousted in November. The Tea Party have been presented as the solution to America's ills.

So it's somewhat surprising to see the Tea Party completely overlooked by the Republicans when they came to select a candidate, and it is surprising too (although refreshing also) to see them make such a complete and total mess of their selection of candidate and his running mate.

Once again, God Help America!

Eric 13-08-2012 17:57

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gynn (Post 1008751)
Watching Sky News over here, we tend to see a bit of Fox News coverage of American politics (same owner, the 'humble' Rupert Murdoch). That gives us the impression that Obama has made a complete mess of the Presidency, and the only possible solution is for him to be ousted in November. The Tea Party have been presented as the solution to America's ills.

So it's somewhat surprising to see the Tea Party completely overlooked by the Republicans when they came to select a candidate, and it is surprising too (although refreshing also) to see them make such a complete and total mess of their selection of candidate and his running mate.

Once again, God Help America!

Don't be surprised if Fox "News" supports Romney/Ryan. Looks like Murdoch is happy with Mittens's choice.

Paul Ryan hailed by conservatives as donations pour into Romney campaign | World news | guardian.co.uk

jaysay 13-08-2012 18:13

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 1008790)
Don't be surprised if Fox "News" supports Romney/Ryan. Looks like Murdoch is happy with Mittens's choice.

Paul Ryan hailed by conservatives as donations pour into Romney campaign | World news | guardian.co.uk

Ya they don't spare the bucks on elections over the pond, its who has the biggest budget

gynn 13-08-2012 20:46

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Nice to see President Obama sending his congratulations to London on the success of the Olympic Games.

London 2012 closing ceremony: How capital took Olympics to its heart | Mail Online

As a true statesman, it is what we've come to expect.

Mitt Romney's message of apology, admitting that he was a million miles wide of the mark in criticising London's ability to host the Games, seems to have got lost in the post.

It wouldn't do for someone hoping to be elected President to be shown to be so hopelessly wrong, would it!

The more we see of him, the more we are coming to realise what a complete joke the man is!

Wynonie Harris 13-08-2012 20:52

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Yeah, but don't forget, plenty of God-fearin' WASPs daft enough to vote for him! :eek:

Mancie 13-08-2012 21:04

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Reagan was a joke but still got elected.. big money makes a lot of difference in the US elections but things maybe changing.. in the past the Republicans proclaimed sense of freedom and democracy did not take into account a large section of people who did not vote..all that changed when Obama got elected.

susie123 13-08-2012 21:11

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gynn (Post 1008853)
Nice to see President Obama sending his congratulations to London on the success of the Olympic Games.

London 2012 closing ceremony: How capital took Olympics to its heart | Mail Online

As a true statesman, it is what we've come to expect.

Mitt Romney's message of apology, admitting that he was a million miles wide of the mark in criticising London's ability to host the Games, seems to have got lost in the post.

It wouldn't do for someone hoping to be elected President to be shown to be so hopelessly wrong, would it!

The more we see of him, the more we are coming to realise what a complete joke the man is!

Some stunning pics in that link, esp the one of Tower Bridge at dawn.

jaysay 14-08-2012 08:39

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by susie123 (Post 1008859)
Some stunning pics in that link, esp the one of Tower Bridge at dawn.

Got to agree susie, I liked the olympic rings with the moon in the centre ring

Wynonie Harris 14-08-2012 14:34

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Turns out Mitt's buddy has had a go at the concept of our NHS in the past. Healthcare's only for those who can afford it in his world ! :rolleyes:

Is Paul Ryan's attack on the NHS healthy criticism? | Open thread | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk

Mancie 14-08-2012 14:50

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 1008964)
Turns out Mitt's buddy has had a go at the concept of our NHS in the past. Healthcare's only for those who can afford it in his world ! :rolleyes:

Is Paul Ryan's attack on the NHS healthy criticism? | Open thread | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk

Much the same attitude Cameron and Osbourne have here..and that is what we should be concerned with. :(

Wynonie Harris 14-08-2012 15:11

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 1008965)
Much the same attitude Cameron and Osbourne have here..and that is what we should be concerned with. :(

No mainstream politico here would dare suggest dismantling the NHS altogether, as they would face a storm of criticism. Cameron and Osbourne want to privatise parts of it just as Brown and Blair did before them with their PFIs etc. Both are wrong.

Tealeaf 14-08-2012 15:18

Re: Mitt Romney
 
[quote=Wynonie Harris;1008964]Turns out Mitt's buddy has had a go at the concept of our NHS in the past. Healthcare's only for those who can afford it in his world ! :rolleyes:

It probably would have been a good idea for this clown Ryan to check out a few simple stats before he opened his gob. If he wishes to make a comparison of the US health care system with that of the UK, then where better to look than with his own CIA. Here is the page comparing relative life expectancy for the US with other countries. Look at the US figure, see where it is in the table, then check out the UK.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publicat.../2102rank.html

Eat chyte, Ryan.

MargaretR 14-08-2012 15:56

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Medical error is 3rd in the list of causes of death

Medical care is the 3rd leading cause of death in the U.S.

As well as that -
..all mains water is fluoridated (damages pineal gland)
.. GM (frankenstein) food is commonly consumed

jaysay 14-08-2012 17:41

Re: Mitt Romney
 
[quote=Tealeaf;1008968]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 1008964)
Turns out Mitt's buddy has had a go at the concept of our NHS in the past. Healthcare's only for those who can afford it in his world ! :rolleyes:

It probably would have been a good idea for this clown Ryan to check out a few simple stats before he opened his gob. If he wishes to make a comparison of the US health care system with that of the UK, then where better to look than with his own CIA. Here is the page comparing relative life expectancy for the US with other countries. Look at the US figure, see where it is in the table, then check out the UK.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publicat.../2102rank.html

Eat chyte, Ryan.

Seems he ain't checked his facts out really number 50 for the USA number 30 for GB

gynn 14-08-2012 18:31

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1008981)
Seems he ain't checked his facts out really number 50 for the USA number 30 for GB

Why let the facts get in the way of political bigotry?

He believes that the kind of "socialised healthcare" we have in Britain jeopardises future tax cuts.

It is such a naive argument that you have to read it twice to believe that's what he's actually saying. What good are tax cuts if you are dead? :confused:

Universal health care is something we concluded was central to any civilised society over 60 years ago. It's unbelievable that anyone is still having the discussion. Cameron and Osborne aren't arguing against universal health care. They just have strange ways of seeing how it can be provided.

jaysay 14-08-2012 18:49

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gynn (Post 1009005)
Why let the facts get in the way of political bigotry?

He believes that the kind of "socialised healthcare" we have in Britain jeopardises future tax cuts.

It is such a naive argument that you have to read it twice to believe that's what he's actually saying. What good are tax cuts if you are dead? :confused:

Universal health care is something we concluded was central to any civilised society over 60 years ago. It's unbelievable that anyone is still having the discussion. Cameron and Osborne aren't arguing against universal health care. They just have strange ways of seeing how it can be provided.

So long as they don't take the road of those Mancie kowtows too and toss money into PFI :rolleyes:

Wynonie Harris 14-08-2012 18:56

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gynn (Post 1009005)
Universal health care is something we concluded was central to any civilised society over 60 years ago. It's unbelievable that anyone is still having the discussion. Cameron and Osborne aren't arguing against universal health care. They just have strange ways of seeing how it can be provided.

This is exactly what amazes me. Only the most right-wing laissez faire Tory would want to do away with the NHS altogether. Over in the States, a large part of the Republican electorate seems to regard the very existence of a universal healthcare system as a fiendish commie plot. :rolleyes:

gynn 14-08-2012 20:14

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1009010)
So long as they don't take the road of those Mancie kowtows too and toss money into PFI :rolleyes:

I remember PFIs being trailed 20/25 years ago. They were seen as a means of getting public buildings built at a time when there was a squeeze on spending during the Thatcher/Major era. They appealed to the Conservatives because they were a collaboration with the private sector, and to Labour because they had a minimum effect on the public purse in the short term, thereby allowing a lot of big projects to be carried out.

I also recall the warnings being given loud and clear that the only benefits were short term, and that 20 years down the line we'd suffer. I think this put off most Conservative thinkers, but it fitted in well with Labours 'live now, pay later' philosophy.

Well here we are 20 years later, and the chickens have come home to roost. They can't say they weren't warned!

Mancie 14-08-2012 21:57

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Lets get things clear...the PFI was introduced during the John Major government and then carried on by Blair..any money owed to those private investors could be paid off now, today, at this moment.
The £20 billion in cuts to the NHS demanded by this government makes it impossible to even pay the existing debt and so we end up with increasing interest payments to the private sector.. and that suits this government just fine..whatever this lot may say they are tories and that means they must provide cash to the private sector ..always has been.

jaysay 15-08-2012 08:36

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gynn (Post 1009021)
I remember PFIs being trailed 20/25 years ago. They were seen as a means of getting public buildings built at a time when there was a squeeze on spending during the Thatcher/Major era. They appealed to the Conservatives because they were a collaboration with the private sector, and to Labour because they had a minimum effect on the public purse in the short term, thereby allowing a lot of big projects to be carried out.

I also recall the warnings being given loud and clear that the only benefits were short term, and that 20 years down the line we'd suffer. I think this put off most Conservative thinkers, but it fitted in well with Labours 'live now, pay later' philosophy.

Well here we are 20 years later, and the chickens have come home to roost. They can't say they weren't warned!

Major did toy with it but as you say wasn't over keen to delve deep into it, PFI is now taking up around 14% off health trust finances, taking into account all the other hairbrained financial schemes embarked on my both Blair and Brown, finances were totally out of control, who can forget the note Liam Byrne left on his desk when Labour were kicked out, "there's no money left we've spent it all"

LancYorkYankee 22-08-2012 13:03

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gynn (Post 1008751)
Watching Sky News over here, we tend to see a bit of Fox News coverage of American politics (same owner, the 'humble' Rupert Murdoch). That gives us the impression that Obama has made a complete mess of the Presidency, and the only possible solution is for him to be ousted in November. The Tea Party have been presented as the solution to America's ills.

So it's somewhat surprising to see the Tea Party completely overlooked by the Republicans when they came to select a candidate, and it is surprising too (although refreshing also) to see them make such a complete and total mess of their selection of candidate and his running mate.

Once again, God Help America!

(Trying to read through before responding but had to jump in): Oh dear, now I remember why I took a break from Accyweb. Back then it was so many of you guy's love affair with Obama (who in Most Americans minds has been a Complete disaster in every walk of our lives). I see my old Mate Eric is still active in promoting the far left Liberal mind set. I remain very Conservative.

Romney would not have been my first choice to mend the damage but his experience, character, vision, etc., far exceeds Obama. Okay, reading on . . .

LancYorkYankee 22-08-2012 13:31

Re: Mitt Romney
 
. . . WOW, views are pretty skewed over there. Obama and his cronies have increased our deficit more then ALL the other Presidents combined. In fact, name me anything positive they've done. This obamacare sounds all fine and dandy but there are so many loopholes, misconceptions, and outright errors, that 30 million Americans will not have coverage due to being dropped by their employers who merely have to pay a penalty which is cheaper then picking up the insurance tab. Poor folks who can't afford the insurance will have to pay a fine for not having coverage but they are TOO poor to pay. UGH!

And Eric, please don't play the race card. Those millions of Americans who have always disliked obama, and the millions who have become disinfranchised by his repeated failures and blunders, do so because of his failled policies NOT because he's half black! Of course you have 10s of thousands of ignorant haters who dislike his color but that is not the majority of Americans.

Finally, (and I REALLY don't want to come back to Accyweb and get hated for my views. I really miss seeing whats going on with the many people who I see as friends and family over there. I'm just trying to give a view from the other side okay?:o) based on my economic status (or lack-there-of :rolleyes:), obama's reelection would benefit me much more then a Romney victory. However, I truly believe that a Republican win will be better for not just our country but for the rest of the world. Remember this all happens right in my back yard!

Peace my Friends,

Brian

P.S. - I'm not a member of the Tea Party nor the National Rifle Association, I don't watch Fox News, I'm not affiliated with any Religious organization, and have never watch Rush Limbaugh, Hannity, Glen Beck, etc.,

Eric 22-08-2012 13:53

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LancYorkYankee (Post 1010131)
. . . WOW, views are pretty skewed over there. Obama and his cronies have increased our deficit more then ALL the other Presidents combined. In fact, name me anything positive they've done. This obamacare sounds all fine and dandy but there are so many loopholes, misconceptions, and outright errors, that 30 million Americans will not have coverage due to being dropped by their employers who merely have to pay a penalty which is cheaper then picking up the insurance tab. Poor folks who can't afford the insurance will have to pay a fine for not having coverage but they are TOO poor to pay. UGH!

And Eric, please don't play the race card. Those millions of Americans who have always disliked obama, and the millions who have become disinfranchised by his repeated failures and blunders, do so because of his failled policies NOT because he's half black! Of course you have 10s of thousands of ignorant haters who dislike his color but that is not the majority of Americans.

Finally, (and I REALLY don't want to come back to Accyweb and get hated for my views. I really miss seeing whats going on with the many people who I see as friends and family over there. I'm just trying to give a view from the other side okay?:o) based on my economic status (or lack-there-of :rolleyes:), obama's reelection would benefit me much more then a Romney victory. However, I truly believe that a Republican win will be better for not just our country but for the rest of the world. Remember this all happens right in my back yard!

Peace my Friends,

Brian

P.S. - I'm not a member of the Tea Party nor the National Rifle Association, I don't watch Fox News, I'm not affiliated with any Religious organization, and have never watch Rush Limbaugh, Hannity, Glen Beck, etc.,

Hey ... good to hear from you again:D:D ... And you really should watch Limbaugh; he's a hoot;)

LancYorkYankee 22-08-2012 14:14

Re: Mitt Romney
 
My father-in-law used to listen to all those guys when he visited. Raised his blood pressure something awful! Glad to see you still here Eric. My quest will be to bring you over from the dark left side! lol How's the fishin' been up there?

Oh, should have also noted in my P.S. that I attend a Black church up the road. Even half of them have turned against the failed "hope and change" policies from their one time hero!

gynn 22-08-2012 23:06

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LancYorkYankee (Post 1010131)
I truly believe that a Republican win will be better for not just our country but for the rest of the world. Remember this all happens right in my back yard!

Great to get the view from the Lions Den, LYY. Its your choice and whoever you choose we will all have to live with.

Obama gets a better press over here than apparently he does in the US. As a world statesman, he has been a great success. His health reforms are seen as an attempt to move the US forward into the 1950s.

What did you make of Romney's overseas visit recently where he managed to upset virtually everyone he met, and frankly came across to most decent minded people as a complete wombat?

We are dreading him being elected.

cashman 22-08-2012 23:30

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Well apart from the stuff we see n hear on the Media, i can honestly say that the few yanks i have personally encountered, oer the last 2/3 yrs, have all been pretty anti- obama, which has surprised me, taking account of what is heard on the media,etc,I'm only talking half a dozen or so, but what i regard as a fair cross section.I am very unlikely to encounter these folk again, but i wonder what they would make of Romney.:confused:

Eric 22-08-2012 23:44

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LancYorkYankee (Post 1010144)
My father-in-law used to listen to all those guys when he visited. Raised his blood pressure something awful! Glad to see you still here Eric. My quest will be to bring you over from the dark left side! lol How's the fishin' been up there?

Oh, should have also noted in my P.S. that I attend a Black church up the road. Even half of them have turned against the failed "hope and change" policies from their one time hero!

So, who's this Todd Akin guy, eh:rolleyes:

Restless 23-08-2012 06:37

Re: Mitt Romney
 
I wish Hicks was still alive. I know I have said this lots of times. I would love to hear what Hicks would have to say about today's politics

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Hicks
the reason I didn't vote for George Bush is because George Bush (along with Ronald Reagan) presided over an administration whose policies towards South America included genocide."

People like Romney make me sick. I guess we have reached our evolutionary peak and have started going backwards for abortions like this guy to exist.

LancYorkYankee 23-08-2012 22:38

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Michael Berry and Ken Bickers of the University of Colorado System Predict Romney to Win 320 Electoral Votes in November | TheBlaze.com

This is a recent independant survey regarding the coming election. I hope the map of the USA comes up. It shows that obama only has solid support from the "Left" coast States and in the Northeast. Most of these very liberal states are also the ones who are in the worse fiscal shape. Further proof that obama and the liberal lead Senate's policy just don't work and haven't worked since the liberal democrats took over Congress in 2007!

- GRRR sorry, you have to click the thing to see the Map. Also noticed that the bankrupt State of Illinois and Michigan and Iowa currently leaning towards obama. Hope this shows you guys that he is not a popular president. Even held lower then the cellar dweller Jimmy Carter!

cashman 23-08-2012 22:44

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Well thats frightening if they are correct n past form says they may well be. Obama aint no Mr wonderful, but if Romneys the best the opposition got, then the gold ole U.S.A. are as useless as us.:eek:

LancYorkYankee 23-08-2012 23:03

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Why do you say that Mate? Although I was hoping Herman Cain would have been the Republicans choice, Mitt Romney has the experience, character, and plan to fix the horrible mess the liberals have made of things. Sounds like you guys are being fed a boatload of ideas that are not totally factual. Plus our mainstream media continues to attack Romney but has hidden obama's many, many flaws.

Even some leading democrats have said that obama has been running the most negative campaign in recent memory. So many of his commercials have been pulled cause they have been quickly proven to be misstatements and out right lies.

As always, I welcome discussions and others views. I know most of you disagree with my political leanings which is fine. Friendships always come first. Just trying to open (not change) you guys up to "the other side of things!"

Brian

cashman 23-08-2012 23:11

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Disagree mate, Romney cocked up big time on his recent tour in quite a few places, he managed it quite easily without prompting by the media, he annoyed n upset quite a few people all by himself, perhaps yeh were never shown that oer yon?:confused: The mans a balloon.;)

Restless 23-08-2012 23:30

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Who next for presidency candidate... Fred Phelps? not much worse of a choice than this wannabe mass murderer-- isn't that what the previous republican presidents are? The bush idiots most certainly.

Brian. I think your posts are refreshing and its good to hear a point of view from across the pond. I ain't getting at your for your political beliefs. I just want to get that out of the way so you don't think I am personally attacking you.

But there is being a republican and BEING a republican. Some of these guys are religious maniacs. They get blood on their hands and wipe it on the pages of the bible to cleanse them.

Voting a religious maniac into presidency of the USA scares the hell out of me.

Wynonie Harris 23-08-2012 23:45

Re: Mitt Romney
 
...plus of course his running mate who thinks that an NHS system is a "threat to democracy".

Paul Ryan profile: The brains behind Presidential candidate Mitt Romney who is pro-gun, anti-abortion, hates the NHS and hunts deer - Mirror Online

Well, I don't. Whatever its flaws (and our NHS has many) a health system that is free at the point of delivery is a hallmark of a civillised democracy which looks after everyone including the old and needy. To my mind Romney and Ryan and their Republican fellow travellers display a laissez faire, I'm alright Jack attitude that I don't like.

bullseyebarb 26-08-2012 17:27

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LancYorkYankee (Post 1010369)
Although I was hoping Herman Cain would have been the Republicans choice, Mitt Romney has the experience, character, and plan to fix the horrible mess the liberals have made of things. Sounds like you guys are being fed a boatload of ideas that are not totally factual. Plus our mainstream media continues to attack Romney but has hidden obama's many, many flaws.
Brian


I, too, was a supporter of Herman Cain. Although Romney was not my first choice, he'll do. The thought of President Slash n' Burn getting another four years is scary. He is very anti-American. I did my homework on him in 2008 and knew right away that I could never vote for such a man. He fooled a lot of people at that time. Let's see how many will buy his swill this go around.

jaysay 26-08-2012 17:55

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Looks like people living in the States have a poorer opinion of Obama than we do, but after all they have to live with it

Eric 29-08-2012 01:46

Re: Mitt Romney
 
The Republicans, those guys who arranged a National Convention to take place in Florida in hurricane season:alright:, sure have some winners in their camp. First we had Todd "Legitimate Rape" Akin; and now this clown:

NH Sheriff Candidate Would Use Deadly Force To Stop Abortions CBS Boston

If the Republicans win, I forsee an increase in tourism in Canada.:rolleyes:

gynn 29-08-2012 05:07

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Haven't heard much this week from all those bible bashing Republicans who argue that natural disasters like earthquakes and hurricanes are a judgement from God and a warning to mankind to change its ways.

Even they must see the irony of the Republican Party Convention being delayed by Hurricane Isaac.

But typical of their narrow minded, selective minds, they choose to keep quiet!

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

gynn 29-08-2012 05:12

Re: Mitt Romney
 
......and WTF was that speech from Romney's 'er indoors all about?

She had all the sincerity of a barrel of treacle, and bringing MS and Breast Cancer into it was just plain cynical.

Pass the sick bag, Alice!

jaysay 29-08-2012 08:13

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gynn (Post 1011235)
......and WTF was that speech from Romney's 'er indoors all about?

She had all the sincerity of a barrel of treacle, and bringing MS and Breast Cancer into it was just plain cynical.

Pass the sick bag, Alice!

You have to make allowances gynn after all she was reading a script and is was a blond airhead:rolleyes:

gynn 02-09-2012 10:01

Re: Mitt Romney
 
If we think Romney is bad, what about his absoluely appalling running mate, one "Paul Ryan"?

His speech to the Republican Party Convention was full of inaccuracies and downright lies.

He attacked the President for making cuts to the Medicare healthcare programme, but did not say that his own budget plan includes the same savings.

He complained that proposals by a budget commission were not adopted, but did not mention he was on the commission and opposed its report.

He was also accused of misleading his audience over the timing of the closure of a GM plant in his home town of Janesville, Wisconsin,
having failed to note that the plant closed under the previous administration of President George W Bush.

And to confirm that he can't be trusted, he has boasted that he has run a marathon in under three hours. The fact is that his one and only marathon took over four hours.

The man is a compulsive liar and a cheat, probably the ideal person to lead a party that has these sort of people attending iits convention:

GOP Convention Attendees at RNC Ejected For Throwing Nuts At Black CNN Camera Operator and Saying 'This is how we feed animals'' - Speakeasy - WSJ

If they get elected, God help us!

jaysay 02-09-2012 10:03

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gynn (Post 1012231)
If we think Romney is bad, what about his absolutely appalling running mate, one "Paul Ryan"?

His speech to the Republican Party Convention was full of inaccuracies and downright lies.

He attacked the President for making cuts to the Medicare health care programme, but did not say that his own budget plan includes the same savings.

He complained that proposals by a budget commission were not adopted, but did not mention he was on the commission and opposed its report.

He was also accused of misleading his audience over the timing of the closure of a GM plant in his home town of Janesville, Wisconsin,
having failed to note that the plant closed under the previous administration of President George W Bush.

And to confirm that he can't be trusted, he has boasted that he has run a marathon in under three hours. The fact is that his one and only marathon took over four hours.

The man is a compulsive liar and a cheat, probably the ideal person to lead a party that has these sort of people attending iits convention:

GOP Convention Attendees at RNC Ejected For Throwing Nuts At Black CNN Camera Operator and Saying 'This is how we feed animals'' - Speakeasy - WSJ

If they get elected, God help us!

gynn he's a politician nough said:rolleyes:

Alan Varrechia 02-09-2012 10:04

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Sounds like politicians behaving normally to me. :D:D:D

MargaretR 02-09-2012 10:22

Re: Mitt Romney
 
He cheated in order to get the nomination.

Ron Paul Supporters Revolt in Tampa - NYTimes.com

gynn 02-09-2012 10:42

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1012233)
gynn he's a politician nough said:rolleyes:

True, jaysay, but no politician I've ever come across has been such a blatant liar!

(sounds like an invitation to give examples of other politicians behaving badly!)

MargaretR 02-09-2012 10:43

Re: Mitt Romney
 
PS more nasty tricks

Bullets Planted in Luggage of Ron Paul Delegate at 2012 RNC - YouTube!

jaysay 02-09-2012 10:48

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gynn (Post 1012252)
True, jaysay, but no politician I've ever come across has been such a blatant liar!

(sounds like an invitation to give examples of other politicians behaving badly!)

Does "Things can only get better not ring a bell":rolleyes:

gynn 02-09-2012 10:51

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1012255)
Does "Things can only get better not ring a bell":rolleyes:

There is a difference between being stupidly over optimistic about the future, and telling lies about the past.

Plenty of politicians appear to be liars because they believe their own hype, but in reality they are just misguided.

This guy Ryan takes it to new levels of dishonesty!

Wynonie Harris 02-09-2012 11:00

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gynn (Post 1012257)
There is a difference between being stupidly over optimistic about the future, and telling lies about the past.

Plenty of politicians appear to be liars because they believe their own hype, but in reality they are just misguided.

This guy Ryan takes it to new levels of dishonesty!

And what about telling us lies about the present, as it was then? What about taking us to war - a war that killed British lads and lasses and untold Iraqis - on a lie?

"Misguided"? Do me a favour! :rolleyes:

gynn 02-09-2012 11:05

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 1012260)
And what about telling us lies about the present, as it was then? What about taking us to war - a war that killed British lads and lasses and untold Iraqis - on a lie?

"Misguided"? Do me a favour! :rolleyes:

Tony Blair was ridiculously misguided, believed his own hype, was led completely up the garden path by the war mongering of Bush. He was pathetic, weak, bullying, blind and stupid.

But he wasn't a liar. I don't think he was intelligent enough for that!

jaysay 02-09-2012 11:13

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gynn (Post 1012263)
Tony Blair was ridiculously misguided, believed his own hype, was led completely up the garden path by the war mongering of Bush. He was pathetic, weak, bullying, blind and stupid.

But he wasn't a liar. I don't think he was intelligent enough for that!

That's not being misguided that's criminal, and yes he was a liar and admitted it about the 40 minutes to bomb London that was a complete and utter lie

Wynonie Harris 02-09-2012 11:16

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gynn (Post 1012263)
Tony Blair was ridiculously misguided, believed his own hype, was led completely up the garden path by the war mongering of Bush. He was pathetic, weak, bullying, blind and stupid.

But he wasn't a liar. I don't think he was intelligent enough for that!

Are you joking? He's highly intelligent. As for your assertation that he wasn't a liar, you definitely must be joking. He led this country into war on a lie in order to further his ambitions as a world statesman. Fortunately everybody except you and a few Labour diehards like Bernard, saw right through him.

Houseboy 04-09-2012 13:14

Re: Mitt Romney
 
If this chap does become president, as seems unlikely at the moment, the lunatics really will have been let out of the asylum. As a newspaper columnist put it recently, he'll make George Dubya seem like a bringer of peace and happiness.

gynn 05-09-2012 07:45

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Michelle won the battle of the wives by a mile. She makes a great First Lady. I've forgotten about the other one already!

And did I see Paul Ryan wheeling on his family at the Republican Convention, including his mother? He should be made to produce birth/wedding certificates to prove the relationship, because everything else he has come out with has been a lie.

jaysay 05-09-2012 08:19

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gynn (Post 1013161)
Michelle won the battle of the wives by a mile. She makes a great First Lady. I've forgotten about the other one already!

And did I see Paul Ryan wheeling on his family at the Republican Convention, including his mother? He should be made to produce birth/wedding certificates to prove the relationship, because everything else he has come out with has been a lie.

Well one look at Mrs Romney and it was a none starter for me and I didn't even bother to listen to dialogue

gynn 07-09-2012 11:03

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Having seen President Obama's speech and comparing it to last week's from his Republican opponent, there is surely no contest.

Or am I missing something?

:confused::confused::confused:


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