Could Boris be the next Prime Minister?
 

They reckon that Boris may end up the next Prime Minister?

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Who's they:confused:

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Who do you think? Some clever dick media geeks working for the Daily Mail! :D

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More chance of you than Boris.:D

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Hey hang on a minute there cashy, don't be silly:D

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Yeh he's being silly - do we really want, Boris - a baffoon as the PM! :D

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I would want you even less, if Boris is buffoon, that makes you an amoeba:D

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Grow up and stop being childish! :rolleyes:

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Whoever gets to be the next PM is only a puppet in any case.
So that recent Boris incident is rather ironically prophetic.

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Wise words Margaret. Have you seen this video? Very weird

Creepy document of Rockefeller Foundation foretelling bomb attack at London Olympics? - YouTube

Rockefeller Foundation predicts scenario in which 13,000 dead at the London Olympics.

Rockefeller Foundation Predicts 13,000 Dead at London 2012 Olympics Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

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You've been told that since you've been a member, but its gone in one ear and out the other, mind you there's very little to stop it is there;)

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If you had read the 54 page document issued by the Rockefeller Foundation you would have seen 4 different scenario's, none of which are predictions or fact. they are just 'what if's'.

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Tell it like it is, BG, well said. But it's much easier to believe what someone tells you in a video than read the document for yourself.

So the Iluminati are going to ensure that exactly 13,000 people are killed at the Olympics and that an earthquake in Indonesia kills just 40,000 - as predicted by Cabbala numerology. I'd love to be inside these people's heads - or then again perhaps not...

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Actually found out that it's the Conservative Party membership actually voted that he is the most likely candidate to become the next party leader!

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But why even bother "what iffing!" these scenario's? :cool: What arn't going to happen anyway!

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So why the H@@@l bother to post it in the first place:confused::confused::confused::confused:

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you could try a link or was it aired in the Guardian:rolleyes:

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Takes all sorts BG:cool:

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If you really want to know...

Scenarios for the Future of Technology and International Development
– The Rockefeller Foundation

page 9

WHY SCENARIOS?
The goal of this project was not to affirm what is already
known and knowable about what
is happening right now at the intersections of
technology and development. Rather, it was to
explore the many ways in which technology
and development could co-evolve — could both
push and inhibit each other — in the future, and
then to begin to examine what those possible
alternative paths may imply for the world’s
poor and vulnerable populations. Such an
exercise required project participants to push
their thinking far beyond the status quo, into
uncharted territory.

Scenario planning is a methodology designed
to help guide groups and individuals through
exactly this creative process. The process
begins by identifying forces of change in the
world, then combining those forces in different
ways to create a set of diverse stories — or
scenarios — about how the future could evolve.

Scenarios are designed to stretch our thinking
about both the opportunities and obstacles that
the future might hold; they explore, through
narrative, events and dynamics that might
alter, inhibit, or enhance current trends, often
in surprising ways.

Together, a set of scenarios
captures a range of future possibilities,
good and bad, expected and surprising — but
always plausible. Importantly, scenarios are
not predictions. Rather, they are thoughtful
hypotheses that allow us to imagine, and then to
rehearse, different strategies for how to be more
prepared for the future — or more ambitiously,
how to help shape better
futures ourselves.

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Do these people ever sleep:confused::confused::rolleyes:

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It was in a London Newspaper - The Evening Standard.:rolleyes:

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means nothing without a link does it;)

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I have just moved all the above posts from an Olympic thread to this new one as they were off topic.

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Your such a nice helpful chap Neil:rolleyes:

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Seem to remember good ole Boris was sacked from the Tory front bench,? was it deceitful conduct?:D On that basis hes got all the requirements to become P.M. pmsl.

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Na he refused to have his hair cut:D

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This has been discussed on Newsnight, The Andrew Marr Show and the Today programme on Radio 4 some time ago. Plenty of comments have been regarding Mr Johnson but it has to be said that he does come across as very likeable whenever he is featured in the media. I have to admit to enjoying listening to the man.

Get beyond all the posh bluster and there is a very clever bloke underneath.

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Yeh can't be dumb if yer being deceitful.

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Agree Ken, very much so with all that.

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Thank you Neil, very helpful to have all these posts together and not mixed up with the Olympics. Glad you didn't delete them.

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Well theres no doubt he's a clever bloke, but Prime Minister:rolleyes:

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Why not indeed ? We've already had some clowns & performing ponies, bring in the Ring Master why not. :rolleyes:

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I think Boris is the harmless, funny buffoon who relaxes you, disarms you, makes you feel there's no threat then strikes.
He intends people to underestimate him, that way it's easier to outmanoeuvre them.
Who would ever have dreamed he could beat Ken Livingstone-twice? A fool and a Tory to boot beating Labour to become Mayor of leftist London? With over 1 million votes? Impossible.
Don't underestimate him, he's one smart cooky.

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He ain't smart...he's an ad mans dream

He's the iconic great English eccentric, he looks funny, he comes out with stuff that makes great headlines. The media love him and nurture him.

He's cheered on by the media like he's a harmless winning upper class twit of the year in a python sketch

Wiff-waff for crying out loud..who in their right mind would vote for this idiot...

apart from the sun, daily mirror and daily mail readers...

apart from BBC and ITV big fat gypsy wedding, the only way is essex and jeremy kyle viewers..

Even I can see him in the Sid James role in Carry on up the Khyber calmly having tiffin while the burpahs over-run the compound

erm....wait..

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So you agree he could be the next Prime Minister?

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Unfortunately yes...(unless the fickle media turn on him)

We appear to be following the US ideal, whereby the majority of people are too idle to think and rely on the media to think for them.

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Boris at No 10, Romney in the White House...a disturbing thought. :eek:

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Prefer the word 'terrifying to 'disturbing' myself..

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With Boris what you see is what you get -there is no actor and no acting.
He is naturally witty, funny and stupid at times because he can be ridiculous but carries it off with a certain aplomb as everyone expects him to be eccentric. He is also highly intelligent, well-read/educated and well-informed -an out-right Tory but nonetheless likeable.

I saw him in action as President of the Oxford Union between 85/86 and he was exactly as he is now at 21 years of age -a real character, bit of an old fuddy-duddy but on the ball and always on top of the debates with the great and good of the times.

Romney at the Whitehouse would be exceedingly worrying, Boris would fit in fine at Number 10...:D

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If that's the case then it really is worrying! :)

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Yes, he'll fit in fine if you want yet another upper class Tory toff who has no concept of ordinary people, how they live, their hopes, problems and aspirations. Personally I regard his possible ascension to No 10 with grave foreboding, despite all his so-called "wit" and "aplomb".

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Nah, what the people want is a little light entertainment;):D

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Being screwed even more by that odd ball Tory devil,Aint my idea of light entertainment.:rolleyes:

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Agreed..he ain't bright enough to 'play to the cameras'

Show me where he has done this with aplomb? The man is an upper class twit who has been given a wide leeway by the media and any 'faux pas' has been portrayed as an Enid Blyton eccentric uncle characteristic

First part of this sentence could describe Hitler, second part Yogi Bear or Scooby Doo

26 years ago I had values and opinions too. They were a world away from my better informed values and opinions today. Pray tell how he managed to become president of the Oxford Union...intelligence, worthiness, skill, aplomb, finger on the pulse....accident of birth?

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That's what his mother said.

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BJ is a right total muppet

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Funny. That's what a lot of people say about you.

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He couldn't be any worse than some of those who supposedly knew about so-called "ordinary people" - politicians with names like "call-me-Tony" and common surnames like "Brown"...:rolleyes:

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Yes, but I would hope for somebody better. Boris is a regression to the days of the feudal squire.

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He's not as daft as he looks! Anyway I doubt Cameron will be giving up his throne any time soon:rolleyes:

Our only hope is the Purple Hearts Party lead by a certain Entwis ...:D

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As Entwisi works for a certain well-known bank, I'm not putting much faith in him! After all, they're the root of so many of our problems! ;)

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OK I've lost count of the number of times you've said this or similar without stating a reason.........so i'll ask..why is he not as daft as he looks?>

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In fairness she did say she knew him as leader of student union @ oxford i think, does that not constitute a reason?:confused: Aint meaning i agree wi that assesment.

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The Oxford Union to which Dianne refers is not the same as the Oxford Students' Union, it's a debating club rather than a representative body.

the Oxford Union - The Oxford Union

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Ah jumped to wrong conclusion susie, i can be quite good at that.:D

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I think there was an old thread about Boris and can't be messed to find it but it's all very well to see him as a likable chap when is not in control of wherever you happen to live..in the five years this man has been Mayor of London transport fares have trebled.. homeless rates are going through the roof (or no roof). The Police force has been cut by almost 2,000 ..in the same period he's reversed the congestion charge for those poverty stricken souls in Chelsea and Kenstington... if we wanted a laugh Ken Dodd would have been PM long ago.:)

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I think I may have said that I saw him in action many times in debates at the Oxford Union (which Susie has kindly pointed out is not the Student's Union), as President of that society he had to handle speakers from all walks of life from femminist Germaine Greer to American Generals to politicians of the day, actors, TV personalities etc. as well as the general debating among students . He was brilliant in this role keeping things moving, adding witty asides and defusing difficult moments.

The way the Union works is a little like a miniature parliamentary debate with a vote at the end by all those present who walk through a door to give their vote as to the motion being debated -the "Ayes" and the "Nays". It may sound very elitist but any student at the University can join and all different political allegiances are represented as well as independent opinion -it's not just Public School. I was decidedly on the opposite side of the house with respect to him but could appreciate an intelligent man -so he does look daft -but as far as I could see he's not.

I believe he also left the University with a 1st class degree in a Classical subject. Now before you jump up and shout "that's because he had a privileged education", Public School etc, may i point out that it doesn't count one jot. Prince Charles I believe left Cambridge with a 3rd class degree which is considered to be just a pass if anyone could have been favoured surely he would have been...:rolleyes:.

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He has been voted in twice now by the population of London -that counts for something. Whether all the problems that are hitting the city are directly his fault or whether they are just the knock on effect of the economical madness of preceding years I can't say -I'm no an expert. I think though that councils across the country and beyond i.e. in Europe are all pretty much in the same sticky situation.

A little example being the local council where i live in Castelverde near Cremona which counts just over 5,000 souls. Until a couple of years ago it was booming here -a beautiful park was opened, the Town Hall square completely rennovated, excellent services, cycle paths made and maintained, a civic arts center opened etc etc. -last years end of year accounts showed they were practically bankrupt because of the national economical situation. They put speed cameras on the main road through here from Milan to make ends meet! Then sold of a plot of land for a supermarket on the edge of the village which will probably kill off the local shops and market when it opens...it has become a mad world.

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Well the good people of London thought that Boris was a better bet than Livingstone Twice:rolleyes:

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Kestrel n Mancie live in London?:D

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There are exceptions in any community:rolleyes::D

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Closet Tories :s_aim1:

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Yeh but Livingstone had 2 innings before that - so there comes a time when people just want change and won't go back to what they had before.

Question I have is why does Boris always have the same crazy hair cut - does his barber do it on purpose! :confused::p

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He's like all that "Conservative" lot

:p :do-one::do-one::dummy::dummy:

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Didn't realise they covered politics in kindergarten;)

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his family probably :)

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ooh I am honoured a reply from paris:D

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Well at least shes speaking to you.:D

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Originally Posted by paris View Post
his family probably
What is behind this series of exchanges?:eek:

Accyweb's own intricate soap opera in real-time.

Will Paris reveal her hand...does Jaysay expect to hear from her again soon...can Cashy's winning smile maintain the upper hand...:confused:

Are other shadowy figures involved in the intricate triangle...watch this space.

Never mind Boris flippin' Johnson and his silly hairdo -this is real life -"reality-web" one step beyond reality TV ;):D

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She's Cashy's missus and a delightfully charming lady she is, too! :)

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In the dog house again cashy:D

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Trouble with some of these foreign bases members Wyn they know nout:D

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I've been reliably informed that Mobertol does know who Paris is and has, in fact, had the pleasure of meeting the lady in question! :)

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Ah so she was playing silly b***** then:D

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Not at all Jay -was putting 2+2 together and getting 22. I have no doubts about your charms ;) :D

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Is that Catch 22:D

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Nice one Jay -didn't set that up at all -my compliments -the eternal triangle ehhh! ;)

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From the horse's mouth today...

BBC News - Boris Johnson: How could zip wire prat become prime minister?

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Hmmmm! Don't believe a word of it -howsabout :

"From the "Mare's" arse" as a subtitle...:eek::D:eek:

No-one is as good a self-publicist as Boris...:rolleyes:

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Ya but self publicists usually end up back on their arses:D

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Talk about Mare's tails - or should that be Mayor's tales:confused::D

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You mean the Oxford Union talked about in the following link that only sounds elitist? Even the normal tories cringe (if there is such a thing as a 'normal' tory that is) and cry foul when the very real and dangerous nutjob future conservative MP's and London Mayors are shown in their natural habitat.

The Commentator - Young, right and part of the fight

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Err... no, not "the Oxford Union talked about in the following link that only sounds elitist".

It might help if the writer of that article had got their facts right or even been consistent. Talking about the Oxford Union Conservative Association at one point and the Oxford University Conservative Association at another - actually it isn't called either now - ditto Cambridge, is inaccurate but that doesn't seem to bother folks who write articles like this. And no, it's nothing to do with THE Oxford Union which is a debating society.

the Oxford Union - The Oxford Union

Oxford Conservative Association - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Cambridge University Conservative Association - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

BTW what's happened to this thread - it seems to be still part of an Olympics thread and the post I made two days ago about the Oxford Union on the Boris thread seems to have disappeared... although Dianne refers to it in her quote.

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Thanks Sue was about to say exactly the same thing! (Ddogy internet connection at the moment for some reason been getting bumped off!)

The Union is open to all -you don't have to be affiliated to any political party to join and the debates are fairly run allowing the same time for all partecipants to exchange their views then all members vote - NOT on the views themselves but on the skill of the debaters presenting their case at winning you over on to their view of the motion which is up for discussion!! I still have my card and am life member -if ever I'm down that way and fancy popping in to watch a debate I get in free...some of the guests are very entertaining.

As to the bit in the article about the young conservative men making comments aimed at female members talking about "Smidgeons" and laughing -par for the course -I would suggest any group of "males" together whatever their age, political interests or other affiliations will always jest about the ladies and make cocky comments among themselves - it doesn't offend me and to be honest rather makes me laugh, especially when it's men of a certain age. May I suggest you read certain threads of Accyweb for example the one on Beach volley currently so interesting to some;) There are lots more if you go back over old threads too. It's just "boys" talk - sad really...but then boys will be boys:D

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Dianne was going to add a comment exactly along the lines of your last paragraph but got too annoyed. I too find it quite amusing and the writer of the article would probably find similar activities at every university in the land.

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Don't suppose you've every listened into a bunch of factory lasses discussing their escapades the previous weekend, I was once in that position sat on a scaffolding having my lunch and they were unaware I was there, you think lads are bad, these ladeeeeeees would make any red blooded male blush believe me:eek::eek::eek::D

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I have already posted it on one of those "boys together" threads -I love the Two Ronnies sketches of "The Worm that turned" -sort of puts the boot on the other foot! Diana Dors foot in particular -now that name might set them all off again!;):D

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And why not??? Sauce for the goose and all that...

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Not impartial to having a gander myself..!;):D

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women are three times worse than men in that department:eek::eek::D

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Only three?? :p

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Is that Gander as in Goose, or gander as in look see:rolleyes:

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I rest my case:D

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Yup, I stand corrected, as you say it's a totally different organisation than the one provided in my link, that'll teach me to jump in with both feet against you without checking thoroughly *slinks off to lick wounds* ;)

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Ya be careful Guinness Accyweb Internet detectives are always on the job:rolleyes::D

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Got it in the end Guiness -that's the main thing:)

The use of your word detective Jay reminded me that Inspector Morse was also an Oxford Union member -it features in one of the episodes (Greeks bearing Gifts) where he goes to a debate.

A few interesting facts about the Oxford Union:
5 PM's have been in office there -Gladstone, Salisbury, Asquith, MacMillan and Heath.
The Queen attended a debate in 1968
It's first woman president was elected in 1968, Benazir Bhutto became it's most well-known female president. In 1986 all 3 offices (President, Librarian and Treasurer) were occupied by women for the first time.

The most controversial debate ever was held in 1933 when the motion was: "This house will in no circumstances fight for it's King and Country"
It was passed 275 votes to 153! So strangely enough the pacifists won...

If you're interested Guiness there was a thread on the Bullingdon Club a while back on Accyweb (my post in number 19!):
http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...b-58915-2.html

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As I said Accy Web Internet detective:D

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I've been a little busy today and therefore not had the time to read the many posts on this matter, so excuse me if I am repeating what may have already been said. I am about as far removed from being a Tory as it's possible to be but I have to say that I like Boris the Buffoon. I think he shows that rare thing, humanity in politics. He also does something that not many politicians do, he makes me smile. However there are a number of reasons why he will not be the next prime minister. One of the main reasons is that he would have to become a member of parliament and to do that he would have to contest a bi-election in the next couple of years. This would presumably need to be a safe seat for the Tories. He would, of course, have then have to resign as mayor of London. He would then need to stand for election as the leader of the party (and of course win). The problem with this scenario, as Boris and everyone around him would know, is that he would lose an incredible amount of credibility and be seen as a self-seeking individual who is only thinking about himself. Now this probably describes most politicians but not, I think, our Boris. He would also be seen as abandoning his post and the people of London who voted for him for pure selfish gain. He also said himself that his recent "hanging in the air stunt" probably killed off his chances anyway. He is, I fear, more astute than most people give him credit for. There is also the small matter of the possible slaughter at the poles if the current "government" (I use the term loosely) carries on in its austerity-at-all-costs approach to the economy.
I believe Boris is best left to his post in London (I wouldn't want him let loose on the nation anyway - I said I liked him, not that I thought he was a good politician) and I'm sure that is probably where he sees himself anyway. I don't even believe that the olympics will stand him in any stead for any length of time, like most things it will be forgotten in a few short months.

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Nice thoughtful post Houseboy from a new member of Accyweb. Could I ask please if you post such a long message in future that you divide it up into paragraphs as it makes it a lot easier to read.

Thanks

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Hell there's a lot of us on here have been doing the same for years, why have a go at a obviously new member, before he's started, however if you find these post to much to read the answer is, don't read it;)