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kestrelx

06-09-2012 10:07

Judge says it takes courage to burgle a house!

A judge let a robber off after telling him it takes courage to burgle a house!

What an idiot!:eek::(

'It takes a huge amount of courage to burgle somebody's house': What judge told intruder who raided three homes before letting him walk free from court | Mail Online

gynn	06-09-2012 10:09

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:eek:

I think its time to wheel that judge out to the funny farm.

Less	06-09-2012 10:24

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Judge said prison had harmed him after he developed an addiction to a heroin treatment drug

What on earth is a Judge that's been to prison and has heroin addiction problems doing in such a position of power?

:confused:

churchfcrules

06-09-2012 10:45

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there must be some point in our lives that we would all "burgle" a house, obviously some peoples point isnt as low as others.

for those who say nay, just imagine, worst case scenario catastrophic scenes, your family hasnt been fed, yadayadayada everyone would have a point, at when they would steal

but i dont know?, that first time that you commited the crime, you wouldnt be panicking, i would thats for sure, be shaking like the preverbal pooing pooch.

thats not to say i condone the actions of the judge, i find these deplorable, because as of yet society hasnt broken down just quite enough for even me to justify either the criminal or the judges actions.

please lets not make this another debacle, and stick to valid points
darren

Less	06-09-2012 10:48

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Originally Posted by churchfcrules (Post 1013592)

please lets not make this another debacle, and stick to valid points
darren

Who died and made you Administrator?
:confused:

churchfcrules

06-09-2012 10:49

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 1013594)

Who died and made you Administrator?
:confused:

and there we go!!!!!!!!!

Less	06-09-2012 11:18

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Originally Posted by churchfcrules (Post 1013592)

please lets not make this another debacle, and stick to valid points
darren

The above is where we went, it isn't for you to decide how the thread ends up, draw your beak in and let the rest of us wander where we will.
:)

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Originally Posted by churchfcrules (Post 1013595)

and there we go!!!!!!!!!

Balbus

06-09-2012 12:56

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I think the judge meant "it takes a lot of nerve" to burgle a house. It's a pity he didn't say it.

churchfcrules

06-09-2012 13:07

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Originally Posted by Balbus (Post 1013664)

I think the judge meant "it takes a lot of nerve" to burgle a house. It's a pity he didn't say it.

i have read the article, he also went onto say, if i see you here again you start with 30 months, but i will give you a chance.

1year suspended for 18 months, 2 years supervision order with drug rehab, and 200 hours community work

now would this be cheaper, than housing this criminal? I'm guessing yes

if it works and he is rehabilitated, was this not a better option? possibly, more useful to society, "curing" someone, as russell brand would advocate.

if he is just a low life, that can't, doesnt want, or wont be helped, is he not going away on his next transgression, but at least we as a society have tried

and does none of this count, and forget the rehab, just punish him, and punish him harshly

cashman

06-09-2012 13:13

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As far as i'm concerned his previous negated this stupid decision, unless of course he committed "Arson" to feed his habit.:rolleyes:

churchfcrules

06-09-2012 13:18

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1013668)

As far as i'm concerned his previous negated this stupid decision, unless of course he committed "Arson" to feed his habit.:rolleyes:

know what your saying, however the arson could have been financially motivated, and could be linked to drugs, not enough info to speculate

cashman

06-09-2012 15:01

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Originally Posted by churchfcrules (Post 1013670)

know what your saying, however the arson could have been financially motivated, and could be linked to drugs, not enough info to speculate

Did he not become addicted "After" he was banged up fer arson? This courage comment makes me puke, No thought at all given to victims of this louse,:( They are the people always overlooked by these namby pamby do-gooders.:rolleyes:

churchfcrules

06-09-2012 15:24

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so you cant see the judges point that it takes "nerves", remember this is an article in The Sun, and at the same time the judge was commending him for having "quit drugs", (even though he ordered drug rehab?????)

forgetting the moral bit for a moment , i dont think i could do that

cashman

06-09-2012 15:34

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Originally Posted by churchfcrules (Post 1013680)

No i cannot see the point it takes nerves, craving fer a narcotic maybe, plus if it does take nerves, should these scumbags be commended fer courage? n the victims ignored? cos thats what seems to be happening in todays world, n being pedantic twas the "Mail" not the Sun.

churchfcrules

06-09-2012 15:48

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1013681)

be as pedantic as you want, only i would have made sure it wasnt in both,:D

and not at all, commended that is, i am just trying to explain, in some way, why what the judge said can be twisted to make a good story, that most will jump on and say "ridiculous", this is someone who has been in the job nearly 30 years, judge bowers, must have sentenced hundreds.

or what about the done deal, behind closed doors, there is a TIC on the charge sheet

i have first hand experience, of how you know what you are getting before you go into court, because your barrister, speaks to CPS, then to judge in his chambers (ohhh matron!)
and all is agreed, before the court even hears your plea, cost being the overiding factor, not justice.

cashman

06-09-2012 15:55

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Originally Posted by churchfcrules (Post 1013683)

be as pedantic as you want, only i would have made sure it wasnt in both,:D

There was no need to make sure, the link provided fer the thread is what is being discussed, not rocket science.

churchfcrules

06-09-2012 15:59

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1013684)

There was no need to make sure, the link provided fer the thread is what is being discussed, not rocket science.

i thought we were discussing the incident, which also appears in the sun newspaper?

but thats irrelevant, and we digress!

cashman

06-09-2012 16:02

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Originally Posted by churchfcrules (Post 1013685)

i thought we were discussing the incident, which also appears in the sun newspaper?

but thats irrelevant, and we digress!

See exactly what i meant the other day?:rolleyes: People are only aware of what is posted, unless they have had acess to other papers, This to me is what constitutes a troll.

churchfcrules

06-09-2012 16:07

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1013687)

See exactly what i meant the other day?:rolleyes: People are only aware of what is posted, unless they have had acess to other papers, This to me is what constitutes a troll.

sorry?, please explain

Gordon Booth

06-09-2012 16:39

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Originally Posted by churchfcrules (Post 1013666)

i have read the article, he also went onto say, if i see you here again you start with 30 months, but i will give you a chance.

1year suspended for 18 months, 2 years supervision order with drug rehab, and 200 hours community work

now would this be cheaper, than housing this criminal? I'm guessing yes

if it works and he is rehabilitated, was this not a better option? possibly, more useful to society, "curing" someone, as russell brand would advocate.

if he is just a low life, that can't, doesnt want, or wont be helped, is he not going away on his next transgression, but at least we as a society have tried

and does none of this count, and forget the rehab, just punish him, and punish him harshly

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Originally Posted by churchfcrules (Post 1013680)

so you cant see the judges point that it takes "nerves", remember this is an article in The Sun, and at the same time the judge was commending him for having "quit drugs", (even though he ordered drug rehab?????)

forgetting the moral bit for a moment , i dont think i could do that

What a load of twaddle!
1 year suspended is cheaper than prison? Of course it is, let's shut all the prisons and save a fortune. After all, not all murderers commit more than one murder so let's give them a chance, as society we will have tried.
If he is just a 'low life', lets hope its your house he burgles next, we'll see if you still feel the same way and can commend him for his courage(I've been burgled, it takes a long while to get over it).
The judge didn't say 'It takes nerves', he said 'It takes a huge amount of courage' and the quote wasn't from the Sun, it was the Daily Mail.
'A huge amount of courage' to burgle a 73 year old? No, just a belief that if he wants it he is entitled to take it, whatever distress he causes.
Our forces in Afganistan are showing Courage.The people in the Paralympics are showing Courage.Many others do but a burglar?
The burglar is just a criminal, the Judge is just a fool. They should both be dealt with accordingly.

churchfcrules

06-09-2012 17:01

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1. read more carefully my first post, especially the bit about me NOT condoning it
2.murder isnt in the same category has theft, hardly a fair comparison, and just for the record, i would have em straight on the gallows myself, but thats a thread wander.
3. if he does re-offend then the judge will have been proven wrong, and another junkie gets banged up costing me money.
4.the use of the word nerves, wasnt a direct quotation, although in the article i read, in The Sun (wich only got raised, because cashman was "being pedantic") the judge is quoted as saying "i wouldnt have the nerve", but that is irrelevant to the discussion, as we get the sentiment

i was saying, i wouldnt have the bottle! (again that word wasnt a direct quote either)

but please do try to engage eyesight, before the fingers start wandering,

walkinman221

06-09-2012 17:11

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Originally Posted by churchfcrules (Post 1013670)

know what your saying, however the arson could have been financially motivated, and could be linked to drugs, not enough info to speculate

Oh well as long as it was motivated by his need/ addiction to drugs thats ok then:rolleyes: The judge has made a comment which at the best is crass and irresponsible.He is in a position of power and influence and should be ashamed of his comments, which quite frankly insult the victims of this scum bag and other victims of burglary around the country.One word for him PATHETIC.

churchfcrules

06-09-2012 17:26

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taken out of context, slightly
i was talking about the judges attitude, to second chances
cashman was arguing that he had is chance, fair point
wich is why i began with know what your saying, usually thats taken as agreement

i was propose that they could have been linked to his dependacy on drugs, and this in THE JUDGES eyes, warranted a sec on chance

do people actually read, or just knee jerk

walkinman221

06-09-2012 17:40

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Originally Posted by churchfcrules (Post 1013699)

do people actually read, or just knee jerk

I was talking about the judges comments on second chances as well , the "reason" for the scum committing arson is irrelevant he did it . And if he has kicked drugs why did the judge order rehab???? Methinks his lordship had been on the sherry or something. What a prat the more you learn about these people the more they look like overpaid ,stupid, out of touch old fuddy duddys who dont have to live and be around scum like that burglar.:mad:

churchfcrules

06-09-2012 17:44

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Originally Posted by walkinman221 (Post 1013705)

I was talking about the judges comments on second chances as well , the "reason" for the scum committing arson is irrelevant he did it . And if he has kicked drugs why did the judge order rehab????

a point i raised myself, it sort of defies his own argument

jaysay

06-09-2012 17:58

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Will somebody get in touch with Jambutty, and have a word about him coming back, I'm begging to think it would make a lot of sense;)

churchfcrules

06-09-2012 18:01

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1013717)

Will somebody get in touch with Jambutty, and have a word about him coming back, I'm begging to think it would make a lot of sense;)

i have yet to see you make 1 valid point to a thread, you just wander round sniping, i found it amusing at first, but it is just tedious now!

jaysay

06-09-2012 18:02

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I have to wonder if this judge would have thought this scumbag had courage if he'd been thieving from his home and felt the pain which that other people suffer when they are robbed:mad:

jaysay

06-09-2012 18:03

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Originally Posted by churchfcrules (Post 1013719)

i have yet to see you make 1 valid point to a thread, you just wander round sniping, i found it amusing at first, but it is just tedious now!

Close the door on your way out theres a good child

churchfcrules

06-09-2012 18:04

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1013720)

I have to wonder if this judge would have thought this scumbag had courage if he'd been thieving from his home and felt the pain which that other people suffer when they are robbed:mad:

karma sent for contribution :):):):):)

churchfcrules

06-09-2012 18:05

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1013722)

Close the door on your way out theres a good child

q.e.d.

cashman

06-09-2012 22:23

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Seems theres gonna be n inquiry into this clowns decision, no doubt things will all be swept under the carpet? i cannot remember "EVER" a judge being brought to book,can anyone?:rolleyes:

churchfcrules

06-09-2012 22:35

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1013818)

Seems theres gonna be n inquiry into this clowns decision, no doubt things will all be swept under the carpet? i cannot remember "EVER" a judge being brought to book,can anyone?:rolleyes:

High court judges with poor judgment should stand down| Joshua Rozenberg | Law | guardian.co.uk
there you go cashman, turns out only one who come near, was for dishing out too long a sentance (i know what your thinking, dear reader, not to far different from my goodself, long sentences n all)

will it be taken to the lords to sentance the crim with a more severe punishment

cashman

06-09-2012 22:42

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Thats says it all, They cannot be sacked,:rolleyes: Most folk would love a job like that i'll wager.

churchfcrules

06-09-2012 22:53

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1013829)

Thats says it all, They cannot be sacked,:rolleyes: Most folk would love a job like that i'll wager.

did you read the bit that said he asked to be withdrawn cos he didnt feel up to it, and they said no

cashman

06-09-2012 23:01

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Originally Posted by churchfcrules (Post 1013839)

did you read the bit that said he asked to be withdrawn cos he didnt feel up to it, and they said no

Nah but don't shock me at all, All faith i had in how this country is managed evaporated years ago.

DaveinGermany

27-09-2012 05:06

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Well at least this Judge has told the degenerates how it is, good man !

'Expect to be shot if you burgle gun owners', judge warns criminals - Telegraph

cashman

27-09-2012 08:47

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 1019501)

Well at least this Judge has told the degenerates how it is, good man !

'Expect to be shot if you burgle gun owners', judge warns criminals - Telegraph

Trouble wi that is this Judge seems to me,to be in the "Minority"

jaysay

27-09-2012 08:59

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1019518)

Trouble wi that is this Judge seems to me,to be in the "Minority"

Ya a judge that talks sense for a change

Chris SUI JURIS

08-10-2012 13:30

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Does this mean if someone is charged with burglary an there defence can prove it took courage to commit it, then they could use this case to get there defendant aquitted? :confused:

Less	08-10-2012 14:22

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Originally Posted by Chris SUI JURIS (Post 1021595)

Does this mean if someone is charged with burglary an there defence can prove it took courage to commit it, then they could use this case to get there defendant aquitted? :confused:

Try it and find out.

Chris SUI JURIS

08-10-2012 14:45

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 1021599)

Try it and find out.

lol no i only do civil offence's ;)

Less	08-10-2012 14:51

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Originally Posted by Chris SUI JURIS (Post 1021606)

lol no i only do civil offence's ;)

So far I haven't found you to be Civil, why is it you remind me of a member with, 'I am Banned' under their name?
:)

Chris SUI JURIS

08-10-2012 15:12

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 1021608)

So far I haven't found you to be Civil, why is it you remind me of a member with, 'I am Banned' under their name?
:)

lol i do try to be civil :D....as for me reminding you of a banned member theres not much i can say apart from try not to ponder on the past ;)

Less	08-10-2012 15:16

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Originally Posted by Chris SUI JURIS (Post 1021611)

lol i do try to be civil :D....as for me reminding you of a banned member theres not much i can say apart from try not to ponder on the past ;)

Indeed I will ponder, as no doubt will the mod's, if you are who I think you are, you won't be a member much longer.
:D

Chris SUI JURIS

08-10-2012 15:44

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 1021612)

Indeed I will ponder, as no doubt will the mod's, if you are who I think you are, you won't be a member much longer.
:D

lol send them a private message (if you havnt already)
it's only a matter of time before your head hunted by MI5 :D

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