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Yeah but we need to be very careful not to target the innocent with the guilty.

Lets look at the typical reaction of the average republican view that all things muslim are bad..

After Boston, we should put Muslims under surveillance, says Rep. King ? MSNBC

(apparently the republicans didn't learn anything from putting everyone with eyes that weren't horizontal in internment camps after pearl harbour)

Then look at the alternative view..

BBC News - Boston bombings: Muslim Americans await bomber's ID

Timothy McVey wasn't a muslim, neither was Anders Brevik, nor was the dipstick at Sandy Hook. The media goes to great lengths to dehumanise the muslims, its backed up by the vocal moronic minority who commit acts of terrorism or scream about jihad from the comfort of their council house in Peckham.

Not one single newspaper had 'christian goes mad at sandy hook' as a headline, yet 'muslims bomb Boston' seems perfectly acceptable..way I see it, headlines in both cases should read 'people killed by insane maniac/s'

As for 'sharia law'..well just look at some of the posts on this thread regarding what should happen to the perpetrators of this crime, and then argue that only muslims want savage retribution enshrined in their laws.

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Depends on yer point of view Guinness, I don't regard n "Eye Fer n Eye" as savage retribution, If found guilty.:rolleyes:

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its like what I see on facebook- I always see pics that say "bring back hanging" etc and then same people share "white and proud say no to sharia law"... Some of these trashy people would probably like sharia law if it was a "white" law....

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True Restless, you would expect facebook to allow xenophobes around the world to unite.

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Orange suit and of to Gidmo hay Eric:D

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Me neither, it never happens over here but they seem to have the right idea over the pond. Why keep a murdering scumbag behind bars living the life of riley, screws call you Mr. no bills, all mod cons 3 square a day, all costing the tax payer millions of pounds.:mad:

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theres a big difference between dishing out a suitable punishment and sharia law

dragging this idiot to the scene of his work where he killed and seriously injured people thus saving an expensive trial isnt too bad an idea

sharia law dictates that if a woman is married and is raped by another man she gets stoned to death for been unfaithfull infact sharia law dosnt really work out too well for women in general they usually end up dead

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mind you sharia law has the right idea for pedos .Saville wouldnt have lived as long as he did for sure

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Patsies rarely live long.

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Whole world of difference between sharia & capital punishment Rob. I really couldn't be bothered with digging out examples & comparisons, it's sufficient to say that they're there if you have a quick google.

Hanging in UK was for murder, the rest of the offences you were imprisoned, dependent on the crime that decided the duration of incarceration. Sharia not only has the death sentence (stoning, decapitation, hanging) which is applied for various "criminal acts", they also use mutilation, maiming & flogging as punishment.

There's a link added as a quick point of reference to various punishments & if you notice not all, but most of these are used by Countries with an Islamic grounding & Sharia law.

The 13 Most Brutal and Inhumane Judicial Punishments Still Used Today

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I think Dave you read too much into my comment. I used hanging as an example to describe a certain group of people here in this country.

Some of these faceboook users do not know the severity of sharia law. They click 'share' just because they are xenophobic, ignorant & racist.

This is the kind of person that I was alluding to
Muslamic Ray Guns - The EDL Anthem - YouTube

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Wouldn't worry about this bs if I were you. There's enough of the hang 'em high crowd on here. They remind me of Monty Python's four Yorkshiremen: "Rippin' 'is arms off an shovin' up 'is ass is too good for him, Obediah. How can you stop shopliftin' if you treat 'em wi' kid gloves" ... That kind of thing .... it's just noise. And they seem to compete. Who can come up with the cruelest punishment? However inept and stoopid our politicians are, they ain't gonna bring back torture and hanging, drawing and quartering. Fortunately, I live in a country where a Charter of Rights and Freedoms guarantees that I am protected from "cruel and unusual punishment." Those same hang 'em high guys also seem to be the ones who talk of "human rights" and "civil rights" as if they were obscenities. When the ACLU talks of the civil right of the Boston bomber to have his Miranda rights, they are not thinking of him so much as the other 326,842,791 Americans (that's a guess, by the way;)) But rather than dwelling on the punishments in Sharia law, and they are cruel and unusual enough, think of the crimes. Blasphemy! Gimme a break, eh. And women facing trial and punishment for the heinous crime of being the victim of a gang rape.

Whatever. There's a "clear and present danger" ... And our politicians have a choice: Do they want to line up behind Chamberlain, or behind Churchill? For me, it's a no brainer.

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Aye Rob, I've seen this clip before, not the sharpest tool in the box. Having said that thought the character shown is a prime example of how the system has failed the British people.

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Didn't realise there was a system that could save Neanderthals like that Dave:rolleyes:

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A functioning & competent education service would be a start, also a society where the family unit, respect & discipline are the front line & focal point.

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Just read that Tsarnaev is being treated at the Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center. :rofl38::rofl38: There's just gotta be an irony in there somewhere. That's cruel and unusual punishment.

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i suppose they really had to find a hospital that his victims arnt recovering in with their families visiting


although personally id have put him on the same ward and left him to the victims families

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I was thinking more along the lines of a medical center formed by the merger of a Jewish hospital and one founded by women.

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Saw a report last night, there are victims in that hospital.:confused:

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You mean like in the good old days when we were growing up Dave, when Kids respected their parents, teachers and the police, sadly this doesn't seem to exist today:(

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12 of their victims are being treated there accyman

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Somehow I have slightly different memories to you Jay, back then there were what our parents called bad un's, lads that were always in trouble, fighting, stealing, generally making hell for the local community.

Borstals were popular back then, but, didn't seem to work, because the bad un's of today all seem to be directly descended from the bad un's of yesterday.

:o

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I was relating to how I was brought up Less, think there are divvy's in every era, its just that their behavior is reported more in the media these days than when we were young;)

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Thing is to me,theres a far higher % of scummies these days, have no figures to back that up, but not a lot wrong wi me eyes, except fer reading.;)

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Sayin that Cashy, In all the four years I spent at St Christophers. I only know of 2 lads and 1 gal that were sent away for a bit of assisted thinking. One or two more were put away after they left, but thats another story

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thats just horrendous and out of order:eek:

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Have to agree, doubt if I'd be happy if one of my relatives was in there with this guy in the next room:eek:

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He's been charged. And he's been read his Miranda rights.

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Thats handy hes got the right to remain silent now.:rolleyes:

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The penalty he faces is either death or life in prison, and life will mean life if that's what he gets

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Not like the uk where you get early release if you behave. We are too soft

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His being shot in the throat helps too:D But I think it's better this way. If he were treated as an "enemy combattant" he would be given a dignity he doesn't deserve. Better that he, and all others like him, be treated as common criminals.

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well if he gets life in prison big bubba ray will give him a job

im assuming it will be a kitchen job because he will be prepparing bubba's salad by tossing it

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It's getting serious now- they're attacking our colonies.

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Again I was watching Freeview news channel Russia Today and there was a item about this and again it showed the older guys You Tube channel again where it says how many video views it said a big fat "0"! so what's that all about? Did they forget to crank up the viewings on his fake "you tube" page?:confused::rolleyes:

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I suppose you mean us;)

Seems like the horsemen got them ... And this isn't the first time terror suspects have been arrested in Canada:


Recent terrorism-related cases in Canada - Canada - CBC News

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Dangerous place to live, Eric.
If you need asylum here I'll sponsor you, as long as you promise me your Harley.:)

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There are ways around this ... over here in the boonies we have an anti-terrorism act. Anyone charged under this act is not covered by the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. Also, suspected terrorists can be held in jail by means of a "security certificate, without being formally charged. I think what it boils down to is that there is a different law for suspected terrorists.

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Ya Eric, your lucky, we have a bunch of faceless Muppets telling us what we can and can't do in our own country, its a joke:mad:

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Exactly Abus got human rights.:rolleyes:

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That crossed my mind. None of my business, of course, but I don't think the EU is good for Britain ... in fact, it seems as if it's good for nothing, unless as a front for German economic domination of Europe. Each nation should be allowed a free-hand in making laws to deal with terrorism. But it seems like there are no "nations" in Europe any more, just a faceless, spineless, bureaucratic blob with a pickelhaube stuck on top.

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The jury's out on whether he's even human cashy;)

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It's not the one stuck on top that bothers me, Eric.
It's the one they keep forcing us to sit on.

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The question a lot of people are asking is; was this a terrorist incident or just a mass shooting type of incident which are not considered terrorist incidents; such as Columbine and more recent ones.

Because the alleged perpertrators had no links to any terror organisations or made statements to the effect that they were motivated by this. Many are claiming it's only being seen as terrorism because of their ethnicity?

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Put whatever shade of evil you want on it, innocent folk died because of their actions.

It could have been because they believe in fairies, it was still wrong.

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One description they were given by Joe Biden I like "two twisted, perverted, knock off jihadis"

Seems to fit..they did it would seem have links to terror organisations, tenuous now but links all the same. The knock off bit. :(

And believers in fairies don't meet on a specified day each week to perform certain rituals,* dont identify themselves as a community of fairy believers separate from fairy skeptics and don't offer to die in defence of their belief in fairies.**

* Freemasons maybe?

** Me and my Tinkerbelle theorem ;)

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terror is terror

the caused terror so are terrorists and should be dealt with as such

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Trouble is we can't even give um their justs, over here, they have rights you know:rolleyes:

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Apparently, the Boston bombers were all packed up ready for another atrocity in Times Square when they were stopped. (on the evening news ).

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A real pair of nut jobs, happen as well ones dead and the other one won't see the light of day again

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Also the Mothers been on saying she regrets them emigrating to the States. Damned straight she isn't the only one feeling that way, ask those suffering loss or injury.

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The parents seem full of self pity. Pity they didn't have enough to go round.!

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Here's Canada's new Anti-Terrorism Bill .... not suggesting it as a model for you guys, just out of interest.

8 things to know about the new anti-terrorism bill - Politics - CBC News

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Seems like some of that would be near impossible to enforce Eric?:confused:

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Surprisingly there are a lot of parents with the "our Billy wouldn't do anything like that" attitude, its time they joined the real world.:mad:

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Hell it wouldn't stand a snowball in hells chance of being accepted here Eric, especially the first 3, the human rights brigade would be all over it like a rash.

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now if we dont have that one we bloody should considering how many born in this country went out to pakistan then hopped over to afghanistan to train for old binlidaden

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Bit late according to the papers today Dr Eric ;)
Resign as Tourism Minister and get that application form filled in for Immigration. ;)

Boston bombs: the Canadian boxer and the terror recruiter who 'led Tsarnaev on path to jihad' - Telegraph