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jaysay 16-04-2013 08:24

Boston Bombing
 
The people who do this type of thing are cowards, no matter what the reason, to target innocent civilians, is the lowest of the low, especially when most people running were doing so for charity. When I first saw the news about this a cold shudder went down my spine, on July 1st my Daughter moves to live in Boston and this is the sort of event she takes the kids to watch:mad:

maxthecollie 16-04-2013 08:28

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We have relatives living in and near Boston. I hope they find who is responsible for this cowardly act and punish them accordingly.

Greeny 16-04-2013 10:27

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Unfortunately we live in a sick world of greed and evil . I just hope that the ones reponsible are caught and punished ( painfully ) and unable to act like this ever again.

DtheP47 16-04-2013 11:02

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Ran the Centenary Boston Marathon 16 years ago, great city, beautiful course and enthusiastic crowds all along the way. *sigh*


Mans inhumanity to man *double sigh*

MargaretR 16-04-2013 11:50

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I have grown suspicious - maybe there is more to this than we have been told.

See this pic (which may be photoshopped, as may well the media reports you have taken to be true)

https://twitter.com/theoutlawjimmy/s...079488/photo/1

Since some media report that a bomb 'drill' was happening there on the same day (we have heard that one before:rolleyes:), I am 'doing a Victor Meldrew' on this one.

Less 16-04-2013 12:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 1053510)
I have grown suspicious - maybe there is more to this than we have been told.

See this pic (which may be photoshopped, as may well the media reports you have taken to be true)

https://twitter.com/theoutlawjimmy/s...079488/photo/1

Since some media report that a bomb 'drill' was happening there on the same day (we have heard that one before:rolleyes:), I am 'doing a Victor Meldrew' on this one.

Your suspicions are quite standard for you mags.
I hope like the rest of us you will put them aside and agree that no matter whom is responsible, innocent people have been targeted, hardly the way to get sympathy for any cause!
May those affected find comfort somewhere.
:(

cashman 16-04-2013 13:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Greeny (Post 1053503)
Unfortunately we live in a sick world of greed and evil . I just hope that the ones reponsible are caught and punished ( painfully ) and unable to act like this ever again.

That is probably the only good thing yeh can take outa this tragedy, If caught they will be punished painfully by the yanks, if twas in the u.k. would not be a chance of that.

accyman 16-04-2013 14:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Greeny (Post 1053503)
Unfortunately we live in a sick world of greed and evil . I just hope that the ones reponsible are caught and punished ( painfully ) and unable to act like this ever again.

thankfully america has the death penalty i just hope that when they catch these cowards its in a state that uses it .


for some reason theres fake photos of limb loss doing teh rounds on the net and tehse people are also pure scum for using this tradgedy to get a sick laugh.Using doctored photos from last year and such.

sadly there are genuine ones too

Eric 16-04-2013 15:17

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I see no one has yet claimed responsibility for this latest cowardly act. The yanks have a great intelligence gathering system, and, no doubt, the boys and girls at Mossad keep them up to scratch on what's going with assorted Islamic nutbars. But the yanks will find the culprits ... sooner than later hopefully.

The US was expecting some sort of "demonstration" to celebrate the anniversary of the birth of Kim Il-sung. Maybe this was it.:confused:

Whatever, it's a vicious, cowardly act that will be punished ... Cashy is right. Yanks take this kinda stuff real serious. And there is no outside authority like "world opinion" or the EU Parliament to cramp their style.

DtheP47 16-04-2013 16:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 1053532)
I see no one has yet claimed responsibility for this latest cowardly act. The yanks have a great intelligence gathering system, and, no doubt, the boys and girls at Mossad keep them up to scratch on what's going with assorted Islamic nutbars. But the yanks will find the culprits ... sooner than later hopefully.

The US was expecting some sort of "demonstration" to celebrate the anniversary of the birth of Kim Il-sung. Maybe this was it.:confused:

Patriots Day
Tax Day
Anniversary of Waco

All this week..

Couple that with as you say Eric nobody has claimed responsibility, too early to call but dissaffected nutjob seems to fit the bill. :(

Eric 16-04-2013 16:55

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The Pakistani Taliban have already denied any involvement. You'd think if this were an act of terror, then somebody would step up onto their dung hill and start crowing. The death count is thankfully low, but there seem to be lots of major injuries. CBC reports that the search is going on "world wide". This is not good news for the perps ... when the US and their allies get going, there is nowhere to hide.

kestrelx 16-04-2013 16:55

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A witness said he saw a garbage bin explode, thing is I would have thought that bins would have been searched as a matter of general security? Anyway it's a terrible cowardly thing to do at a sporting event like this.

Eric 16-04-2013 17:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DtheP47 (Post 1053543)
too early to call but dissaffected nutjob seems to fit the bill. :(

Think you are dead right on this ... We might just be in for a surprise when they find out who did it. Maybe something along the lines of the Oklahoma City bombing.

DtheP47 16-04-2013 17:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 1053549)
A witness said he saw a garbage bin explode, thing is I would have thought that bins would have been searched as a matter of general security? Anyway it's a terrible cowardly thing to do at a sporting event like this.

All the lower limb shrapnel injuries point to a rubbish bin and BBC 5 Live say there was an explosive sweep an hour before. After the London bombings all the litter bins in the capital were either capped off or removed.
No blame can be laid at the security services they couldn't put the National Guard on every bin.

kestrelx 16-04-2013 17:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 1053550)
Think you are dead right on this ... We might just be in for a surprise when they find out who did it. Maybe something along the lines of the Oklahoma City bombing.

If they find out it's some idiots with a grudge about tightening up gun laws - they should be publicly disembowled!

jaysay 16-04-2013 17:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1053517)
That is probably the only good thing yeh can take outa this tragedy, If caught they will be punished painfully by the yanks, if twas in the u.k. would not be a chance of that.

Your right there Cashy they'd hide behind the human rights act, like these cowards always do:mad:

kestrelx 16-04-2013 17:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1053555)
Your right there Cashy they'd hide behind the human rights act, like these cowards always do:mad:

Did you know that from last week the British Library are going to record every message left on the Internet in the UK! :)

Less 16-04-2013 17:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 1053556)
Did you know that from last week the British Library are going to record every message left on the Internet in the UK! :)

Gowd sterooth! another set of officials getting bored stiff reading my correspondence?

Well I suppose I could make my input of interest to them if I put the words:-

Terrorist Attack, Al-Qaeda, Muslim extremist, IRA & a link to making booby traps, in my signature.
:(

Eric 16-04-2013 17:44

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CBC now reporting that the bombs were made from pressure cookers ... looks kinda like a low tech operation, the sort that could easily slip under the radar.

Sunflower49 16-04-2013 18:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 1053550)
Think you are dead right on this ... We might just be in for a surprise when they find out who did it. Maybe something along the lines of the Oklahoma City bombing.

That's what I was thinking. Doesn't seem like an 'outside job' ...
What a horrible thing to do :(

jaysay 16-04-2013 18:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sugarmouse0707 (Post 1053577)
That's what I was thinking. Doesn't seem like an 'outside job' ...
What a horrible thing to do :(

Hope it doesn't turn out to be some teenage weirdo, they get more than their fair share across the pond, the number of school shootings by disturbed adolescents is quite alarming, lets hope one of them hasn't graduated to making bombs:mad:

DtheP47 16-04-2013 18:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 1053566)
Gowd sterooth! another set of officials getting bored stiff reading my correspondence?

Well I suppose I could make my input of interest to them if I put the words:-

Terrorist Attack, Al-Qaeda, Muslim extremist, IRA & a link to making booby traps, in my signature.
:(

Be careful Wizz.... remember Paul Chambers tweeting about blowing up Robin Hood Airport. Yeah he was eventually aquitted BUT he did get put through the legal wringer.

Sunflower49 16-04-2013 18:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1053578)
Hope it doesn't turn out to be some teenage weirdo, they get more than their fair share across the pond, the number of school shootings by disturbed adolescents is quite alarming, lets hope one of them hasn't graduated to making bombs:mad:

I wouldn't be all that surprised-not as feasible maybe but no way impossible.

This is horrendous as well I think.

Westboro Baptist Church says they?ll picket Boston Marathon victims? funerals ? RT USA

Less 16-04-2013 18:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DtheP47 (Post 1053581)
Be careful Wizz.... remember Paul Chambers tweeting about blowing up Robin Hood Airport. Yeah he was eventually aquitted BUT he did get put through the legal wringer.

Three Meals a day, Laundry done, free dental service, easy access to Doctors, free broadband, no T.V. Licence, No Rent, No Council tax, I think I could put up with it so long as the rumors about the soap being super-glued to the shower floor aren't true, I think I could live with the consequences, I'd even give up any chances of early release!
Hey Mr. Warder, peel me another grape!

:cool:

DtheP47 16-04-2013 19:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 1053606)
Three Meals a day, Laundry done, free dental service, easy access to Doctors, free broadband, no T.V. Licence, No Rent, No Council tax, I think I could put up with it so long as the rumors about the soap being super-glued to the shower floor aren't true, I think I could live with the consequences, I'd even give up any chances of early release!
Hey Mr. Warder, peel me another grape!

:cool:

Yeah but it would be your cell mate you would need to worry about, heaven forbid it could be Christopher Murray Paul-Huhne ;)

Less 16-04-2013 19:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DtheP47 (Post 1053617)
it could be Christopher Murray Paul-Huhne ;)

Whoever it may be, they will just have to put up with the smell.

Besides using Diversionary tactics I would have them eating out of the palm of my hand, (I'd introduce them to AccyWeb!).
;)

DtheP47 16-04-2013 19:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 1053510)
I have grown suspicious - maybe there is more to this than we have been told.

See this pic (which may be photoshopped, as may well the media reports you have taken to be true)

https://twitter.com/theoutlawjimmy/s...079488/photo/1

.

What are you and that ridiculous tweet saying Margaret??

That Nick Vogt has grown some legs?? only to have then blown off again?
Do you really think the well turned out Wounded Warrior as shown in the other pics would have been spectating at the race in that skanky sweater on Patriots Day? And if he was competing with his newly grown legs where was his race-number? Or maybe that was blown off in the blast too.

DtheP47 16-04-2013 19:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 1053618)
Whoever it may be, they will just have to put up with the smell.

;)

Eau de Railway eh :rolleyes:...and you'd miss that ;)

Retlaw 16-04-2013 19:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 1053556)
Did you know that from last week the British Library are going to record every message left on the Internet in the UK! :)

Where the ell are they going to store it all, plus their backups.

DtheP47 16-04-2013 20:22

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Son of Accrington Ron Hill set the course record of 2:10:30 back in 1970. Not bettered for 5 years.

Boeing Guy 16-04-2013 21:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 1053571)
CBC now reporting that the bombs were made from pressure cookers ... looks kinda like a low tech operation, the sort that could easily slip under the radar.

I would have thought a Pressure Cooker loaded with gun powder and shrapnel (nails, screws etc) would be a very effective home made Claymore mine.
Nasty but very easy to make, in the land of the free.
Sounds home grown to me

Restless 16-04-2013 22:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sugarmouse0707 (Post 1053584)
I wouldn't be all that surprised-not as feasible maybe but no way impossible.

This is horrendous as well I think.

Westboro Baptist Church says they?ll picket Boston Marathon victims? funerals ? RT USA

How can this god hates fags church still be allowed to exist? An eight year old has died and they say this crap? Wouldn't surprise me if they are behind it. I've seen documentaries on them. They are totally and utterly disgusting

Humans are monsters and if there ever was a god he/she turned thier face away in disgust at their creation a long time ago.

Sunflower49 16-04-2013 22:10

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I know-It's so sad isn't it :(

If there was a god, I am sure their value would be placed on actions,not what people proclaim to believe in...I just can't get my head around some people.

DtheP47 16-04-2013 22:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Boeing Guy (Post 1053636)
I would have thought a Pressure Cooker loaded with gun powder and shrapnel (nails, screws etc) would be a very effective home made Claymore mine.
Nasty but very easy to make, in the land of the free.
Sounds home grown to me


Not necessarily BG

Boston Marathon bombs: al-Qaeda's Inspire magazine taught pressure cooker bomb-making techniques - Telegraph

MargaretR 16-04-2013 22:18

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The media uses camera trickery.
I made a thread about it a while back.*
For this event we have 'disappearing blood'

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=2970918888111

..and they have resurrected a 'dead' headmistress as a witness in Boston

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater

Why indulge yourself in shock and horror, which is exactly what they intend you to feel, when it may all be staged.


*ps - http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...ies-48617.html

cashman 16-04-2013 22:25

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See it aint just Al- Queda n such factions, These Westboro sickos n similar sects are just as big a problem in society in my view, They are nothing but hate mongers of which there are many sects of em in America, but its n issue they never do much about, Free Speech is it.:rolleyes:

Less 16-04-2013 22:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 1053648)
The media uses camera trickery.
I made a thread about it a while back.*
For this event we have 'disappearing blood'


..and they have resurrected a 'dead' headmistress as a witness in Boston


Why indulge yourself in shock and horror, which is exactly what they intend you to feel, when it may all be staged.


*ps -

You really are one sick female dog!

Whenever a human tragedy occurs you are always ready with your sick comments and pathetic links.
:mad:

MargaretR 16-04-2013 22:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 1053651)
You really are one sick female dog!

Whenever a human tragedy occurs you are always ready with your sick comments and pathetic links.
:mad:

I understand your anger.

If I believed it to be true, I would be sad too.

I just require you not to accept all you see as being true.

Eric 17-04-2013 05:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Restless (Post 1053644)
They are totally and utterly disgusting

I agree with this statement; but the First Ammendment to the US Constitution is the core of American democracy. In the case of Texas vs. Johnson in 1989, Supeme Court Justice, William J. Brennan Jr. wrote: "If there is a bedrock principle underlying the First Ammendment, it is that government may not prohibit the expression of an idea simply because society finds the idea offensive or disagreeable." Just ignore the nutbar religious freaks. They are not America. They are a lunatic fringe; all societies have one ... at least one.

DtheP47 17-04-2013 07:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 1053653)
I just require you not to accept all you see as being true.

By the sacred scrotum of Beelzebub Margaret, there is and will be enough opprobrium on here about your latest posts so I will resist the temptation.:(
Possibly the first step on your journey to inner peace is to visit that newly opened computer shop up on the Level and get them to fit “Net Nanny” on your machine. You are clearly visiting websites that are inappropriate for your mental capacity to process sensibly.

GEaston 17-04-2013 07:59

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I wouldnt rule out Jihadi's because they published a how to using pressure cookers manual on the internet a while back. They also don't have the capability to pull off anything big - if they could have they would have in the last 10 years.

While it is a tragedy in Boston, it's also taken over the news. On the same day 40 Iranians died in a Quake, about the same in Pakistan, and around 1000 lost their lives in the Syrian civil war. Life doesnt have the same reportable value in those parts though...

It's not just the British Library recording everything ever posted, the US Govt has done this for a long time. Google, Yahoo and Bing do it, but take a look at Internet Archive: Digital Library of Free Books, Movies, Music & Wayback Machine and enter a website in the way back machine. That's a full copy of every website ever created since the 1990's. Fully functioning copies, clickable links the works, captured regularly. Great for prosecuting frauds, because taking down your fraudulent website won't help you as they grabbed it and copied it. Talk about storage capacity.....

jaysay 17-04-2013 08:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Restless (Post 1053644)
How can this god hates fags church still be allowed to exist? An eight year old has died and they say this crap? Wouldn't surprise me if they are behind it. I've seen documentaries on them. They are totally and utterly disgusting

Humans are monsters and if there ever was a god he/she turned thier face away in disgust at their creation a long time ago.

Its surprising just what some people will do in the name of God, its like I've always said, if there is a God, in the true sense of the word, he'd have no truck with people who purport to murdering in his name:mad:

cashman 17-04-2013 08:24

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[QUOTE=jaysay;1053688]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Restless (Post 1053644)
Its surprising just what some people will do in the name of God, its like I've always said, if there is a God, in the true sense of the word, he'd have no truck with people who purport to murdering in his name:mad:

Amazed yeh can remember him that far back.:D

jaysay 17-04-2013 08:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 1053648)
The media uses camera trickery.
I made a thread about it a while back.*
For this event we have 'disappearing blood'

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=2970918888111

..and they have resurrected a 'dead' headmistress as a witness in Boston

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater

Why indulge yourself in shock and horror, which is exactly what they intend you to feel, when it may all be staged.


*ps - http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...ies-48617.html

Are you never going to give up on this stupidity, join a conspiracy forum and chat to your hearts content:mad:

jaysay 17-04-2013 08:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 1053653)
I understand your anger.

If I believed it to be true, I would be sad too.

I just require you not to accept all you see as being true.

Well keep it to yourself then :mad:

Boeing Guy 17-04-2013 08:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 1053653)
I just require you not to accept all you see as being true.

Why?

As much as I enjoy a good debate, you and I have had a few, Ameros, Currency Collapse, Chemtrails etc, I have my own opinion.
I may not agree with what yours is, but I am entitled to it, just as you are and I will defend the right for you and me to have it.


Margaret, you seem to take a lot of stock off websites that slant world events to your way of thinking, you could say I and others do the same.

Have a good day

Less 17-04-2013 09:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Boeing Guy (Post 1053698)
Why?


I may not agree with what yours is, but I am entitled to it, just as you are and I will defend the right for you and me to have it.


So you are prepared to defend this woman's right to to put forward her views?

Would you also defend my right to criticize her view because I find it disgusting?

No-one so far as I can see has said she can't say it, but there are plenty that would prefer that she thought through what it is that she says.

Sunflower49 17-04-2013 10:39

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Off topic but the quotes in this thread are confusing me! I just read a post where the quote appeared as if it was quoting me, and I thought 'I didn't say that!'

Is it appearing like this for anybody else? Or have I done something wrong?

cashman 17-04-2013 10:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sugarmouse0707 (Post 1053712)
Off topic but the quotes in this thread are confusing me! I just read a post where the quote appeared as if it was quoting me, and I thought 'I didn't say that!'

Is it appearing like this for anybody else? Or have I done something wrong?

Beats me suger, it did same fer me the other week.:confused:

gpick24 17-04-2013 10:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sugarmouse0707 (Post 1053712)
Off topic but the quotes in this thread are confusing me! I just read a post where the quote appeared as if it was quoting me, and I thought 'I didn't say that!'

Is it appearing like this for anybody else? Or have I done something wrong?


beats me suger, it did same fer me the other week.:confused:

It`s easy to make it look like your quoting something someone didn`t say.

Less 17-04-2013 10:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sugarmouse0707 (Post 1053712)
Off topic but the quotes in this thread are confusing me! I just read a post where the quote appeared as if it was quoting me, and I thought 'I didn't say that!'

Is it appearing like this for anybody else? Or have I done something wrong?

I think what is happening, is that one person mis-copied a quote, then another person did similar to the mis-copied quote and this has passed the error down the line.
Always best just before posting, if we use the Preview post button before sending it out to others so that if we've made an obvious oops it can be corrected before such errors get out there.
As it is it's going to take a fair bit of editing by the mods to sort this lot out.
:)

Quote checked and approved in preview post, by Less, 11.56 17/04/2013

Sunflower49 17-04-2013 11:03

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It's not a big deal lol but I just had to ask!:)

Less 17-04-2013 11:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sugarmouse0707 (Post 1053720)
It's not a big deal lol but I just had to ask!:)

You asked I answered, if you don't feel it's a big deal don't ask then I won't be left feeling that my attempt at helping was wasted on your attitude!
:rolleyes:

DtheP47 17-04-2013 12:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 1053718)
As it is it's going to take a fair bit of editing by the mods to sort this lot out.
:)

Quote checked and approved in preview post, by Less, 11.56 17/04/2013

Post# 20 where it gets macerated Wizz ;)

Less 17-04-2013 12:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DtheP47 (Post 1053728)
Post# 20 where it gets macerated Wizz ;)

Yes I had noticed, but because the culprit asked why? Rather than name and shame them, I tried to avoid causing embarrassment to the young lady (yes, I know, I must be getting old, there was a time I wouldn't hesitate in causing it),

I wish I'd said it's all your fault thicko can you not do a simple thing like posting?

:D

Boeing Guy 17-04-2013 12:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 1053705)
So you are prepared to defend this woman's right to to put forward her views?

Would you also defend my right to criticize her view because I find it disgusting?

No-one so far as I can see has said she can't say it, but there are plenty that would prefer that she thought through what it is that she says.

In a word Less Yes on both counts.
Having the right of freedom of speech is ssomething I firmly believe in, however distasteful the comments made.

cashman 17-04-2013 13:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Boeing Guy (Post 1053734)
In a word Less Yes on both counts.
Having the right of freedom of speech is ssomething I firmly believe in, however distasteful the comments made.

So people saying/shouting "Kill the infidels" is fine wi you B.G.? Well it sure as hell don't sit right wi me,especially in me home country.

Eric 17-04-2013 13:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1053715)
Beats me suger, it did same fer me the other week.:confused:

Me too:confused:

susie123 17-04-2013 15:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 1053740)
Me too:confused:

See post 51

Boeing Guy 17-04-2013 15:55

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Okay Folks,
My original post on this was in answer to Marg R, she said we needed to be told the truth, her version Is different from what the mainstream media's etc.
I fell I should qualify my disagreement with her on this.

Whilst I have no desire to see Abuu Hamza etc in our country calling for mine or anyone's death with such slogans as, kill Infidel or even the mad baptists in America, they are entitled to their opinion. If we remove this right, then we are in danger of becoming just like they are and what they stand for.

So although I am not happy at people shouting ' kill the infidel' in my own country, the simple fact that they can say it here, with no fear of death/Jail/Severe Beatings etc just shows how wrong they are.
We are a better nation for allowing Free Speech, people have died in World Wars to defend that right. Lets not lose it.

Barrie Yates 17-04-2013 16:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Boeing Guy (Post 1053752)
Okay Folks,
My original post on this was in answer to Marg R, she said we needed to be told the truth, her version Is different from what the mainstream media's etc.
I fell I should qualify my disagreement with her on this.

Whilst I have no desire to see Abuu Hamza etc in our country calling for mine or anyone's death with such slogans as, kill Infidel or even the mad baptists in America, they are entitled to their opinion. If we remove this right, then we are in danger of becoming just like they are and what they stand for.

So although I am not happy at people shouting ' kill the infidel' in my own country, the simple fact that they can say it here, with no fear of death/Jail/Severe Beatings etc just shows how wrong they are.
We are a better nation for allowing Free Speech, people have died in World Wars to defend that right. Lets not lose it.

There is a considerable difference between "free speech" and "incitement to murder" or any other major criminal offence.

Eric 17-04-2013 16:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Boeing Guy (Post 1053752)
Okay Folks,
My original post on this was in answer to Marg R, she said we needed to be told the truth, her version Is different from what the mainstream media's etc.
I fell I should qualify my disagreement with her on this.

Whilst I have no desire to see Abuu Hamza etc in our country calling for mine or anyone's death with such slogans as, kill Infidel or even the mad baptists in America, they are entitled to their opinion. If we remove this right, then we are in danger of becoming just like they are and what they stand for.

So although I am not happy at people shouting ' kill the infidel' in my own country, the simple fact that they can say it here, with no fear of death/Jail/Severe Beatings etc just shows how wrong they are.
We are a better nation for allowing Free Speech, people have died in World Wars to defend that right. Lets not lose it.

This is a tricky issue, and it has been causing some debate over here in the colonies. Canada, unlike our neighbour to the south, does put limits on free speech. The official position ... one that has been defined and upheld by the Supreme Court ... is that there are such things as hate crimes, that speech and other forms of expression can cross a boundary and become promotion of hate.

Supreme Court ruling upholds limits on free speech in case involving anti-gay proselytizer - The Globe and Mail

I tend to trust our Supreme Court. Unlike the U.S. body, Canadian Supreme Court Justices are not appointed because of their political views, but on the basis of merit.

Eric 17-04-2013 17:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Barrie Yates (Post 1053757)
There is a considerable difference between "free speech" and "incitement to murder" or any other major criminal offence.

That's how we see things here in the colonies.

Gordon Booth 17-04-2013 17:28

Re: Boston Bombing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 1053648)
The media uses camera trickery.
I made a thread about it a while back.*
For this event we have 'disappearing blood'

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=2970918888111

..and they have resurrected a 'dead' headmistress as a witness in Boston

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater

Why indulge yourself in shock and horror, which is exactly what they intend you to feel, when it may all be staged.


*ps - http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...ies-48617.html

Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 1053653)
I understand your anger.

If I believed it to be true, I would be sad too.

I just require you not to accept all you see as being true.

MargaretR, you either believe this rubbish you post, in which case you're sick.
Or you don't believe it, in which case you're a sick troll.
Either way, you're sick.

jaysay 17-04-2013 17:31

Re: Boston Bombing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Barrie Yates (Post 1053757)
There is a considerable difference between "free speech" and "incitement to murder" or any other major criminal offence.

I totally agree Barrie, the only thing is the police are frightened of arresting people who are using words as incitement, because the race card will be waved about by all those Human Rights Lawyers swilling around in the legal system :mad:

Gordon Booth 17-04-2013 17:48

Re: Boston Bombing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Boeing Guy (Post 1053752)
Okay Folks,
My original post on this was in answer to Marg R, she said we needed to be told the truth, her version Is different from what the mainstream media's etc.
I fell I should qualify my disagreement with her on this.

Whilst I have no desire to see Abuu Hamza etc in our country calling for mine or anyone's death with such slogans as, kill Infidel or even the mad baptists in America, they are entitled to their opinion. If we remove this right, then we are in danger of becoming just like they are and what they stand for.

So although I am not happy at people shouting ' kill the infidel' in my own country, the simple fact that they can say it here, with no fear of death/Jail/Severe Beatings etc just shows how wrong they are.
We are a better nation for allowing Free Speech, people have died in World Wars to defend that right. Lets not lose it.

Just wondering, are people equally free to wander round shouting 'Kill the Muslims'?

DaveinGermany 17-04-2013 17:55

Re: Boston Bombing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 1053769)
Just wondering, are people equally free to wander round shouting 'Kill the Muslims'?

By Allahs scraggly beard & curly toed slippers how dare you ! You stinking dog of an infidel, only the religion of peace can make such outbursts. ;)

Gordon Booth 17-04-2013 17:57

Re: Boston Bombing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 1053770)
By Allahs scraggly beard & curly toed slippers how dare you ! You stinking dog of an infidel, only the religion of peace can make such outbursts. ;)

I only asked!!

Less 17-04-2013 17:57

Re: Boston Bombing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 1053769)
Just wondering, are people equally free to wander round shouting 'Kill the Muslims'?

If they are and they do, I would find it just as reprehensible as I would if someone was going around shouting 'kill the infidel'.
http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/fighting/catfight.gif

DaveinGermany 17-04-2013 18:06

Re: Boston Bombing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 1053771)
I only asked!!

Only asked ? Only asked ? Where do you think you are, going round & freely asking questions like that ! :rolleyes:

Gordon Booth 17-04-2013 18:14

Re: Boston Bombing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 1053775)
Only asked ? Only asked ? Where do you think you are, going round & freely asking questions like that ! :rolleyes:

But they shout it in Syria, Pakistan, Iraq and then they go and do it.
Does that mean they have more freedom of speech than we have?
I'm only asking.

Restless 17-04-2013 18:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 1053773)
I would find it just as reprehensible
http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/fighting/catfight.gif

Totally agree

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 1053770)
By Allahs scraggly beard & curly toed slippers how dare you ! You stinking dog of an infidel, only the religion of peace can make such outbursts. ;)

Why is it that people insist God/Allah to have a beard.....

Boeing Guy 17-04-2013 18:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 1053769)
Just wondering, are people equally free to wander round shouting 'Kill the Muslims'?

They should be, shall i bring the placards:hidewall:

Restless 17-04-2013 18:18

Re: Boston Bombing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 1053648)

cnn-caught-out-telling-porkies

I know all about CNN and their lies... Its mention here however I find on the disturbing... Especially with the loss of the Eight year old....

Gordon Booth 17-04-2013 18:18

Re: Boston Bombing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Boeing Guy (Post 1053781)
They should be, shall i bring the placards:hidewall:

No use hiding behind that wall, DinG will come and get you.

DaveinGermany 17-04-2013 18:21

Re: Boston Bombing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 1053779)
But they shout it in Syria, Pakistan, Iraq and then they go and do it.
Does that mean they have more freedom of speech than we have?
I'm only asking.

Quite possibly, but for a rather shorter period of time as your head's usually lying alongside your body which tends to put a stop to your rantings. :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by Restless (Post 1053780)
Why is it that people insist God/Allah to have a beard.....

Face fungus is inherent in religious nutter circles simply because you wouldn't want to imagine them being let loose with a cut throat razor. ;)

Less 17-04-2013 18:24

Re: Boston Bombing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Restless (Post 1053780)
Totally agree



Why is it that people insist God/Allah to have a beard.....

Because he's made in their image and in the hospital wards these folk are locked up in they aren't allowed razor blades, so of course he must have a beard!
http://smileyshack.files.wordpress.c....gif?w=66&h=64

Less 17-04-2013 18:42

Re: Boston Bombing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 1053787)
Because he's made in their image and in the hospital wards these folk are locked up in they aren't allowed razor blades, so of course he must have a beard!
http://smileyshack.files.wordpress.c....gif?w=66&h=64


in fact if you notice, when these lesbian butch types claim that God is a woman...








...She is still depicted with a beard!
:D

jaysay 17-04-2013 18:47

Re: Boston Bombing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Restless (Post 1053780)
Totally agree



Why is it that people insist God/Allah to have a beard.....

Well God did the last time I gave him an Audience Less;)

Less 17-04-2013 18:56

Re: Boston Bombing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1053793)
Well God did the last time I gave him an Audience Less;)

Ah come in Mr. Jaysay, your new glasses have arrived

Now, sit down and read from the card,

Restless



Less


You should now be able to tell that those two words are different!

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/i...Ba95WCJRfOrB8Q

accyman 17-04-2013 21:11

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god/allah have a beard because would you want people knowing what you looked like if you were responsible for all the crap in the world

Sunflower49 17-04-2013 23:27

Re: Boston Bombing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 1053721)
You asked I answered, if you don't feel it's a big deal don't ask then I won't be left feeling that my attempt at helping was wasted on your attitude!
:rolleyes:

Awww I'm sorry I made you feel so wasted....-I should have said Less thank you I really appreciate your help very much...
Just clarifying that I wasn't having a go at the mods or blaming anybody for my puzzlement....:hidewall:

GEaston 18-04-2013 05:47

Re: Boston Bombing
 
This whole "kill the infidel" religious hangup is interesting because the christian church started that. Lets not forget that it was Pope Urban II in 1090 that started the Crusades with his papal army who's battle cry was "god wills it"

I like to think we've progressed just a little over the thousand years since, but clearly the former infidel (who in a fit of originality now call us the infidel) have not.

What is amazing to me is that people still follow the Christian religion despite its historic crime sheet (which is indeed long)

jaysay 18-04-2013 08:29

Re: Boston Bombing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 1053795)
Ah come in Mr. Jay Say, your new glasses have arrived

Now, sit down and read from the card,

Restless



Less

You should now be able to tell that those two words are different!

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/i...Ba95WCJRfOrB8Q

Nowt to do with the eyes Less, its the thing behind them that's the problem:rolleyes::D

gpick24 18-04-2013 10:53

Re: Boston Bombing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sugarmouse0707 (Post 1053819)
Awww I'm sorry I made you feel so wasted....

Isn`t that how he likes to feel?:D (sorry, someone had to say it and the temptation just got to much)

Less 18-04-2013 11:03

Re: Boston Bombing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gpick24 (Post 1053862)
Isn`t that how he likes to feel?:D (sorry, someone had to say it and the temptation just got to much)

Hey up newbie, you don't know me, friends can talk like that, you'd better tread carefully.

:D

susie123 18-04-2013 11:29

Re: Boston Bombing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 1053867)
Hey up newbie, you don't know me, friends can talk like that, you'd better tread carefully.

:D

I see quotes have got out of sync again. I've previewed this but haven't corrected it though I know what to do. Just to show an example and hope folks check their preview.

gpick24 18-04-2013 11:33

Re: Boston Bombing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 1053867)
Hey up newbie, you don't know me, friends can talk like that, you'd better tread carefully.

:D

Twas only a joke Less, no offence meant, but if they`re lined up like that, then I`ve just got to knobk èm down.:)

Less 18-04-2013 11:43

Re: Boston Bombing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gpick24 (Post 1053874)
Twas only a joke Less, no offence meant, but if they`re lined up like that, then I`ve just got to knobk èm down.:)

How come knobk, (no matter what form of sexual deviation), got past the swear checker?
:eek:

gpick24 18-04-2013 11:53

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Don`t know, should have been knock, damn phone & stubby fingers:o

Neil 18-04-2013 13:25

Re: Boston Bombing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sugarmouse0707 (Post 1053712)
Off topic but the quotes in this thread are confusing me! I just read a post where the quote appeared as if it was quoting me, and I thought 'I didn't say that!'

Is it appearing like this for anybody else? Or have I done something wrong?

Its because in post 10 a quote was done incorrectly. Then someone quoted it and then quoted that one and it goes on and on. I have been working my way down the thread fixed the mess so hopefully it's correct and makes sense now

Sunflower49 18-04-2013 14:24

Re: Boston Bombing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gpick24 (Post 1053862)
Isn`t that how he likes to feel?:D (sorry, someone had to say it and the temptation just got to much)

It was a 'strategic' choice of words:cool:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 1053878)
Its because in post 10 a quote was done incorrectly. Then someone quoted it and then quoted that one and it goes on and on. I have been working my way down the thread fixed the mess so hopefully it's correct and makes sense now

Lol thanks. :)

All I'm getting via the internet now is people emphasising the publicity this incident has caused compared to other tragedies happening on the same day...

Less 18-04-2013 14:47

Re: Boston Bombing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sugarmouse0707 (Post 1053883)
It was a 'strategic' choice of words:cool:


Lol thanks. :)

All I'm getting via the internet now is people emphasising the publicity this incident has caused compared to other tragedies happening on the same day...

Gosh, you think AccyWeb is that influential?

Maybe you should just decide to post questions you care about rather than glibly dismiss answers that people took time to give you?
Don't worry though next time you do ask a question, I won't waste my time helping you out.
Go struggle.:mad:

Sunflower49 18-04-2013 14:58

Re: Boston Bombing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 1053884)
Gosh, you think AccyWeb is that influential?

Maybe you should just decide to post questions you care about rather than glibly dismiss answers that people took time to give you?
Don't worry though next time you do ask a question, I won't waste my time helping you out.
Go struggle.:mad:

Sorry Less, your post makes no sense to me aside from the part stating that I glibly dismissed an answer. I've already countered that by saying I didn't dismiss, I just emphasised that my query was not meant as a complaint-in case anybody thought it was.

Eric 18-04-2013 15:14

Re: Boston Bombing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GEaston (Post 1053828)
This whole "kill the infidel" religious hangup is interesting because the christian church started that. Lets not forget that it was Pope Urban II in 1090 that started the Crusades with his papal army who's battle cry was "god wills it"

I like to think we've progressed just a little over the thousand years since, but clearly the former infidel (who in a fit of originality now call us the infidel) have not.

What is amazing to me is that people still follow the Christian religion despite its historic crime sheet (which is indeed long)

If you are going to lecture the ignorant masses, at least get your dates right. Also, it is possible ... likely according to some academics ... that "deus vult" is a later embellishment of the type quite commonly tacked on to historical events. There are about half a dozen versions of Urban's speech, all written after the capture of Hierosolyma. I belive that only one of them mentions "deus vult" ... can't remember which one. Check it out on google if you are interested.

By the way, in WWl belt buckles in the Imperial German Army were stamped with "Gott mit uns".

God heard the embattled nations sing and shout
"Gott strafe England" and "God Save the King!"
God this, God that, and God the other thing.
"Good God," said God, "I've got my work cut out!"

Less 18-04-2013 16:29

Re: Boston Bombing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sugarmouse0707 (Post 1053885)
Sorry Less, your post makes no sense to me aside from the part stating that I glibly dismissed an answer. I've already countered that by saying I didn't dismiss, I just emphasised that my query was not meant as a complaint-in case anybody thought it was.

If you can't understand that you posted a question asking for help, You were willingly given help, then you just dismiss that help!

You shouldn't be so ignorant as to post at all.

People on this site help, you belittle that help, how long before people get the attitude, why bother to help?

You get your tit's out, that's your job, if someone comes into the place and has the attitude, yeah tit's but I can't be bothered about how she shakes them about, how much of a let down would your tit's be?

Well I like looking at tit's but I don't want to be told after I've made the bother to reply to find my answer is after all the time I've spent, not even an amusement to you.

If you don't want an answer don't ask a question, it will leave me free to help someone that needs it rather than putting me off answering such selfish posts!
:(

jaysay 18-04-2013 17:12

Re: Boston Bombing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gpick24 (Post 1053877)
Don`t know, should have been knock, damn phone & stubby fingers:o

Um that's a good un I'll have to try that one:rolleyes:

Eric 18-04-2013 17:33

Re: Boston Bombing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sugarmouse0707 (Post 1053712)
Off topic but the quotes in this thread are confusing me! I just read a post where the quote appeared as if it was quoting me, and I thought 'I didn't say that!'

Is it appearing like this for anybody else? Or have I done something wrong?

Don't worry about it Silly Mouse, it's just a


B.o.B - Ghost In The Machine (Musikal Tube) | Lyrics - YouTube

;)

Sunflower49 18-04-2013 17:44

Re: Boston Bombing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 1053910)
If you can't understand that you posted a question asking for help, You were willingly given help, then you just dismiss that help!

You shouldn't be so ignorant as to post at all.

People on this site help, you belittle that help, how long before people get the attitude, why bother to help?

You get your tit's out, that's your job, if someone comes into the place and has the attitude, yeah tit's but I can't be bothered about how she shakes them about, how much of a let down would your tit's be?

Well I like looking at tit's but I don't want to be told after I've made the bother to reply to find my answer is after all the time I've spent, not even an amusement to you.

If you don't want an answer don't ask a question, it will leave me free to help someone that needs it rather than putting me off answering such selfish posts!
:(

How exactly do you feel I dismissed your help?
If it's because I said I didn't see the issue with quotes as a big deal, then I still stand by that-I wasn't losing any sleep over it, I was just wondering. I did appreciate your answer and did not mean to imply that I didn't-so I am sorry if it came accross that way.
Lol please stop calling my breasts 'tit's'. Call them 'tits' at least.
:)

jaysay 18-04-2013 17:55

Re: Boston Bombing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sugarmouse0707 (Post 1053941)
How exactly do you feel I dismissed your help?
If it's because I said I didn't see the issue with quotes as a big deal, then I still stand by that-I wasn't losing any sleep over it, I was just wondering. I did appreciate your answer and did not mean to imply that I didn't-so I am sorry if it came accross that way.
Lol please stop calling my breasts 'tit's'. Call them 'tits' at least.
:)

Less is obviously a 'tit's' man SM:D


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