Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1057586)

Whilst no doubt there are people conning the system, Many are Not, but thats a typical tory way of looking at things.:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by accyman (Post 1057593)

i wasnt aware it was refering to only families on benefits but your right it is the way of the tory to assume that anyone on benefits and dares to have any form of luxury is a cheat.God forbid somone be working and getting tax credits and dare to pay a relativly small fee for a basic sky bundle with internet and entertainment for the family.

i was going to say a lot more but to be honest im sick to death of hearing about how good people on benefits have it with their new cars and big tv's just because one or two people make certain red top papers headlines.

its not true its proppoganda crap spewed out to make people who work think its the people on benefits fault they get taxed heavily when in fact its tehir employer been allowed to pay them crap wages and government blowing money away hand over fist with the only option of screwing us harder to get more money to piff away

Originally Posted by accyman (Post 1057593)

i wasnt aware it was refering to only families on benefits but your right it is the way of the tory to assume that anyone on benefits and dares to have any form of luxury is a cheat.God forbid somone be working and getting tax credits and dare to pay a relativly small fee for a basic sky bundle with internet and entertainment for the family.

i was going to say a lot more but to be honest im sick to death of hearing about how good people on benefits have it with their new cars and big tv's just because one or two people make certain red top papers headlines.

its not true its proppoganda crap spewed out to make people who work think its the people on benefits fault they get taxed heavily when in fact its tehir employer been allowed to pay them crap wages and government blowing money away hand over fist with the only option of screwing us harder to get more money to piff away

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1057608)

The problem starts when its more profitable to lie in bed than even try to find employment, anybody who thinks this is right is living in cloud cuckoo land. Benefits were put in place as a safety net not a way of life.

Originally Posted by Less (Post 1057629)

I don't think anyone on here has stated that choosing not to work and living on benefits is right.

However I think the majority of folk aren't like you and realise that the majority on benefits aren't trying to screw the system.

Last time around your lot put all the blame on the unemployed, 'get on your bikes' you shouted, now you have gone even further, acting like Jesus and telling sick and disabled to 'pick up their beds and work'.

You really are acting like a Tory version of c'mon when you justify picking on the vulnerable rather than the guilty.

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1057632)

Explain to me why DLA claims shot up from 200,000 to 700,500 in ten years even though there are great advances in medical cures

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1057633)

In ten years immigration has also increased a fair bit, That could also be a factor in this, I really don't know the reasons, but seems you are fully informed.:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1057633)

In ten years immigration has also increased a fair bit, That could also be a factor in this, I really don't know the reasons, but seems you are fully informed.:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1057632)

Explain to me why DLA claims shot up from 200,000 to 700,500 in ten years even though there are great advances in medical cures

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1057636)

As I've posted I do open my eyes a bit Cashy, my problem is being disable it irks me right of when people fain illness for monetary gain. Genuine cases could receive more if we sorted the leeches out from the system, and to think its just a few minor cases, well:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 1057637)

Could it be that the great medical advances have actually kept people alive but not necessarily, made them fit to fend for themselves?

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1057634)

notice I've added to that post since you read the original;)

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1057673)

was it not the tories who brought d.l.a. in in 1992.so that was 21 years ago.so jaysay, i think youve got your figures wrong lol you meant 20 years.at the end of 1992 there was 52,000 on dla,at the end of 1997 there was 217,000.so eleven years later there was 382,000 so thats 165,000 more in eleven years.so if you add the figures up the tories put 170,000 on dla labour put 165,000.jaysay you need to get your figures right before you start pouting off lol:D:D:D

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 1057674)

I recall that time - people were encouraged to move from unemployment benefit to sickness benefits so that it would appear that the unemployment figures were going down.