Originally Posted by gpick24 (Post 1058733)

Now don`t be like that. Less is OK so long as you agree with everything he says.:D

Originally Posted by Less (Post 1058734)

Deary me, have I hurt you in the past?

Now you've found an allie?

Not to worry, I'll allow you this one after all your mate can make paragraphs you only make a one sentence comment, hardly a real contribution is it?
:D

Originally Posted by gpick24 (Post 1058738)

Hurt me? No
Found an ally? No, as I disagree with most of what he put.
And one sentence comments are the most I can manage during a busy day at work.

Originally Posted by GEaston (Post 1058729)

Plenty of idiots on here mouse, and Less is one of them. He and others that can't argue quickly resort to personal insults. As a former teacher he should know better. For my part I am pleased I didn't attend his IT class!

I'd like to know why people think the government owes them anything - house, living, just anything at all. Welfare state came in post war to provide for people in harsh circumstances, which was an honourable idea, but its long since morphed into something can take the **** out of as the Phillpot "family" perfectly demonstrated. I get that's an extreme case, but the fact that people can is shameful. Individual greed will always trump need.

What happened in Britain in every century prior to this one? For the previous 10,000 years we did just fine, and were a great nation for much of the latter part. There's plenty of excellent economic systems without a Welfare state, or handout mentality, like the one here in Singapore. Here they spend next to nothing on welfare, and almost no one looks to the govt for help nor is anyone jealous of the UK system, which they find laughable. Here, and in most of Asia, the concept of FAMILY is live and well. FAMILY look after you until such time as you no longer need help. The house next door to me has 4 generations of the same family living in it.

Meanwhile back in Blighty we now have a system where people leave home at 18, feel entitled to be housed by the government (for no reason other than they reached 18), have kids and often can't even stay in an immediate family unit - in fact if you don't your priority in the govt housing queue rises, long with your Govt support payments.

Time to completely reconsider the role of govt in society, instead of just moaning about it. Step back for a minute and read this thread again - people are actually outraged that the government isn't providing enough of the right type of housing !!!! I could add my previous point about our nation also being financially bankrupt and unable to support any such thing, but that's a wider discussion.

Originally Posted by Guinness (Post 1058740)

Gotta say Mr. Loadsamoney... that has got to be the wildest most inaccurate pile of nonsense I've ever read on this forum, maybe if you took your head out of Property Developers Weekly and read about the real hardship being caused to the many because of the greed of the few you may gain some insight.

Who knows you may even be able to create a cogent argument, instead of banging on about how great it was with cholera, whooping cough, 7 year old chimney sweeps, workhouses, cannon fodder, giving up your bride to the feudal lord on your wedding night, bubonic plague and the black death.

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1058755)

with your mouth open I presume :D.

Originally Posted by GEaston (Post 1058752)

:-) usual suspects all in rampant agreement with each other. Do you have independent opinions ?

I recon I provide a refreshing change, at least you can collectively moan about me instead of collectively moaning about the government.

Less, it was indeed a specific point made about you, much he same as the one you made to mouse. I just wondered if you can take criticism as well as you dish it out. I see the playground bully didn't like getting a back eye.......lol

Originally Posted by GEaston (Post 1058758)

This topic was started by the woman who killed herself