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entwisi 16-05-2013 12:41

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Originally Posted by gpick24 (Post 1058995)
No need for a tape measure, just something to show scale, like a coin for example.

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Originally Posted by accyman (Post 1058993)
you can claim for dammage caused to your car but you best have a tape measure and camera to hand because as soon as you report it they nip up and fix it so you cant prove it was too deep and a danger


err, how am I supposed to that when its illegal to stop on the motorway? Never mind having the balls to be knelt down with a 10p piece whilst artics are whizzing past me! :D

there are some absolute HUGE potholes on my journey to work, mostly on M66/60/6. I've caught one or two quite heavily and I'm surprised with the silly low profile tyres that are now fitted to most cars the wheel itself wasn't damaged.

gpick24 16-05-2013 12:44

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Originally Posted by entwisi (Post 1059009)
err, how am I supposed to that when its illegal to stop on the motorway? Never mind having the balls to be knelt down with a 10p piece whilst artics are whizzing past me! :D

You`ve got me there.:)

Studio25 16-05-2013 12:50

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Originally Posted by tommiasfc (Post 1058969)
I do agree with you but the problem is modern cars are far more advanced then when the limit was introduced so you can get upto 80 without even knowing. My first car was a 1993 corsa you got that to 70 you knew about it. I now drive a 58 plate vauxhall van at work (same size as standard transit) and it gets upto 80 and feels no difference then going 40. Plus modern cars stop allot quicker I think its time they upped the limit personally.

Just because a modern car is capable of going faster and stopping faster, it doesn't mean the limits should go up. There are many more cars on the road than there were, so it cancels out any benefit given by technology.

About 20 years ago, a girl I used to work with was two seconds behind a Porsche on the motorway. It stopped, for whatever reason, and they went into the back of it. Her "defence" was that it was a performance car that stopped far quicker than the van she was in, so it wasn't her fault... :rolleyes:

It wouldn't bother me if the police started a zero-tolerance policy to road speeds. I do try to keep within the limit, but occasionally go over. My view is that if I'm tagged, I'm not paying enough attention and so the punishment is justified.

No journey I make is ever important enough to speed. When I used to do weddings, and my arrival time was non-negotiable, I just set out earlier...

accyman 16-05-2013 14:39

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the only good thing cameron has wanted is a 80mph limit on motorways but the crybaby bitches afraid of doing more thaqn 50mph on a motorway got their way and stopped it

if government was truely dedicated to safe speed they woudlnt allow cars on the road that can do 150mph like mine can they would all be fitted with limiters by law

entwisi 16-05-2013 14:56

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how about we actually start convicting people for stupidity...

the speed limit on motorways was instigated becausde at a time that the average family saloon could just about push 80 and took 1/4 of a mile to stop from that speed the Jag E type and AC cobra were being tested at ~ 150 up the M1 with full media cover

nowadays my 4 door saloon car is limited to 155 and stop from 80 in less than half the distance despite weighing 2.5 tonnes thanks to all the technology at play ( ABS, vastly superior tyres technology, suspension )

my beef has always been that we don't have variable speed limits, at rush hour on an icy sleeting Feb morning 50 is probably right for motorways, at 5am on a beautiful summer morning 120 would be equally safe.


We should also consider what the police do, have an extra test for those who wish to qualify to drive faster by showing greater skill levels. give them a huge badge to stick on the front of their car, say a circle with 4 quarters, two blue, two white, surround it with a nice black circle to make it stand out..... :)

Boeing Guy 16-05-2013 15:25

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Originally Posted by entwisi (Post 1059036)


We should also consider what the police do, have an extra test for those who wish to qualify to drive faster by showing greater skill levels. give them a huge badge to stick on the front of their car, say a circle with 4 quarters, two blue, two white, surround it with a nice black circle to make it stand out..... :)

Being a owner of one of those badges..... I do hope we aren't going to get into the usual knock the blue and white circle driver.
I agree something should be done for bad driving, speed should not come into it.
Inappropriate speed kills, not just speed.

jaysay 16-05-2013 17:24

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Originally Posted by Boeing Guy (Post 1059037)
Being a owner of one of those badges..... I do hope we aren't going to get into the usual knock the blue and white circle driver.
I agree something should be done for bad driving, speed should not come into it.
Inappropriate speed kills, not just speed.

I'm with you there Si, there is no excuse for speeding no matter where or what road or conditions are, every body passes a test and learns the Highway Code, which gives you the speed limit, motorist can even plead ignorance of the law in this case all motorists know what the law on speeding is, end of story

cmonstanley 16-05-2013 18:34

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speed kills ive been a witness to a fatal crash which a driver was speeding down a motorway and clipped a car which knocked the clipped car into a central reservation .both were speeding 3 deaths.cars are not toys there are speed restrictions for a reason.speed kills fact.

DaveinGermany 16-05-2013 18:54

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130 kmh (80 mph) Autobahn speed limits here, but folk regularly travel faster. The Police tolerate it as long as you're driving sensibly, safely & not endangering other road users & that the vehicle is capable enough.

Added to that, on the 3 laners you don't often find iidiots tooling along endlessly in the centre lane doing 90 kmh (55 mph) when the insides free. The Outside tends to be the domain of the Audi, Merc & BMW. ;)

accyman 16-05-2013 19:17

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1059065)
speed kills ive been a witness to a fatal crash which a driver was speeding down a motorway and clipped a car which knocked the clipped car into a central reservation .both were speeding 3 deaths.cars are not toys there are speed restrictions for a reason.speed kills fact.


not defending speeding excessivly here but that seems to have been caused through carelessness rather than speed infact the same result would most likely have occured at a 70mph impact

someone not looking over their shoulder when moving into the fast lane at 60mph can cause death .Its not always about speed its usually peoples neglegence that causes accidents

cmonstanley 16-05-2013 19:33

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when i spoke to the copper he said if they were doing the right speed the car wouidnt have took off to somersault about 6 times and miss the barrier.

accyman 16-05-2013 19:37

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1059077)
when i spoke to the copper he said if they were doing the right speed the car wouidnt have took off to somersault about 6 times and miss the barrier.

thats his opinion but cars can flip over at less than teh speed limit iv been in one when it has flipped over.Like i said speed isnt always the main factor in an accident theres other variables as well its just easy to say oh well speed done it

really sounds like im defending excessive speeding lol but its teh easy option to blame speed its as though accidents and deaths dont occur under 70mph

accyman 16-05-2013 19:40

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 1059071)
130 kmh (80 mph) Autobahn speed limits here, but folk regularly travel faster. The Police tolerate it as long as you're driving sensibly, safely & not endangering other road users & that the vehicle is capable enough.

Added to that, on the 3 laners you don't often find iidiots tooling along endlessly in the centre lane doing 90 kmh (55 mph) when the insides free. The Outside tends to be the domain of the Audi, Merc & BMW. ;)

my pal used to live in germany when he was based there sering in the army and he told me the outside lane on the autoban had no limit but if you had an accident your insurance wa sinvalid.Said it was mainly used by high end performance cars and if you went in with a car only capable of doing 140mph you were asking for trouble.

is that wrong ?

DaveinGermany 16-05-2013 20:03

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Originally Posted by accyman (Post 1059079)
the outside lane on the autoban had no limit

Like I mentioned, you cross into Germany from any border crossing & there's a big sign advising you of the speed limits on specific roads, Autobahns 130 kmh. As I also pointed out it's pretty much a free hand (or should that be foot?:)) as long as you're safe & sensible.

Sticking to restrictions were applicable, then getting the boot down when you can, all happy bunnies (except the tree hugging enviro-mentalists! Still when are they ever happy?:rolleyes:). Folks getting to & from, work, play or whatever all at reasonable speeds & time.

accyman 16-05-2013 20:37

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the best example of dangerous speed i have ever witnessed was an old couple pulled up in the fast lane at night with the interior light on looking at a map on the motorway..

i nearly filled my trousers to put it politely

zero mph almost deadly it wa sonly a little red micra


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