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Be aware that the police are using hand held speed guns on the M65, I have seen them twice this week sat in thier patrol car with a hand held gun pointing down the motorway. I was lucky only doing 60 at the time.
Both times the car was parked between junction 8 and junction 7 with the camera pointing towards Burnley, perhaps the cop is a rovers fan and he fancies handing Burnley fans a few more points.

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surely if a police officer has time to sit in a car all day pointing a speed camera at the road it means that all crime has been prevented and solved in lancashire so it must be a good thing right ?

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exactly. but remember it's an easy £60 back in the goverments bank

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Costs more n that if yeh choose a speed awareness.:eek:

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as long as their is cars the government will find a way to screw extra money out of their drivers

if it wasnt for cars the country would be bankrupt

insurance,fuel,mainatinance,MOT and fines alone are probbably keeping this country afloat

its about time the government started thanking drivers not persecuting them :D

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I wouldn't mind so much,if money from Road Tax n these fines was spent on the sodding roads,:(

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I don`t have a problem with speed cameras myself, they`re there to catch people breaking the law. What happens to the money from the fine is pretty irrelevant in my view. I think most people know the 10%+3 rule when it comes to speeding so if you`re prosecuted in a 70mph limit, you`re most likely doing over 80, and you can`t really have any complaints.

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Spot on if there were no penalties there would be no need for limits but they're there for a purpose, simples

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I do agree with you but the problem is modern cars are far more advanced then when the limit was introduced so you can get upto 80 without even knowing. My first car was a 1993 corsa you got that to 70 you knew about it. I now drive a 58 plate vauxhall van at work (same size as standard transit) and it gets upto 80 and feels no difference then going 40. Plus modern cars stop allot quicker I think its time they upped the limit personally.

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I agree about upping the limit, modern cars are much better now, my first car was an austin princess, which I don`t think I would be on the motorway long enough to get to 70. I`ve been done twice now, caught by speed cameras, both times I was driving, my foot controlled the accelerator and brakes and I got caught, nobodys fault but mine.

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I learnt to drive in an Austin A30 was lucky if it reached 30mph:D but like you say when you have ordinary sedan cars that get fro 0 to 60 in 8 seconds there's a big difference today and you don't seem like your moving. Having said that I drove all over the country with my job and the only ticket I ever got was a parking ticket in Carlisle in 77 cost me 2 quid:)

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Well touch wood the only ticket I've had so far is for parking cost me £35 that was one expensive bacon sandwich :D .

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Been discussing on another web site about parking, in as much as parking on double yellow and even within school zones, usually by people who drive 4 x 4s doing the school run, something which didn't exist when I went to school:rolleyes:

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Please explain why in yer view,the money is irrelevant? The roads are a sodding disgrace, ours is so bad we avoid using it if possible. n by the way i was done oer Bury way doing 34 MPH in a 30 mile zone. i certainly wasn't intentionally speeding, just never realised i was slightly oer.:(

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The roads need to be repaired, I agree with that, but I don`t think someone who has commited a crime, whatever the crime is, has a right to say where his fine is spent.

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I mentioned the Road Tax first off in the other post, yeh never mentioned that n as far as i'm aware road repairs are supposed to come out of it.:rolleyes: So were should money from motoring fines go then? personally its not about the right to say were money goes, more about common sense.:rolleyes:

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I thought road tax was for road repairs, as far as the fines go, the money can go to wherever it`s needed the most. Doesn`t it just go into the governments pot with everyones tax money?

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Thats the general idea as i understood it, but it sure as hell don't happen, watched a documentary on it years ago n still sod alls changed, so cmon can't blame the Tories cos both sides are as bad,:rolleyes: as me car has been damaged due to bad roads i think i'm entitled to bitch.

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speed cameras in built up areas or outside schools and hospitals etc i agree with but theres a hell of a lot of cameras that are set in places deliberatly to sneakily catch a motorist unawares.

i did meet a nice copper one time on the motorway he had stopped me to inform me that i was touching 99mph and that if it had been busy on the road he woulda done me but because it was late and no traffic he would let me off with a verbal warning.Its a pitty a lot more coppers dont have the same shred of integrity and common sense this copper did

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You`re also entitled to put in a claim for it`s repair.
Potholes.co.uk - How to claim

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But if you aren`t breaking the speed limit, it doesn`t matter how sneaky they are.

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Sorry but if there is a speed limit catching motorist unawares doesn't come into it, if your driving through any town you know the speed limit is 30 so if your caught doing 40 who's fault is it, same thing on the motorway if you get clocked at 80 you deserve all you get, everybody knows the speed limits if you break them there's only one person to blame you;)

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Wasn't aware of it ta, not much use now as was a couple of years back n different car, but will file away.;)

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I read somewhere a while ago, it`s cheaper to pay the claims to repair the cars damaged by the roads, than it is to repair the roads.

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one local example

as you enter great harwood coming from rishton there is a 50mph sign

about 40 yards after that sign maybe less in a dip in the road there is a 30mph sign and this is a spot where speed trap cameras like to hide

i know that i am about to enter a town but someone not familiar to the area will see that 50mph sign and by the time they see the 30mph sign and start to slow down its too late they are zapped

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you can claim for dammage caused to your car but you best have a tape measure and camera to hand because as soon as you report it they nip up and fix it so you cant prove it was too deep and a danger

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No need for a tape measure, just something to show scale, like a coin for example.

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another example same town different exit

if you are leaving rishton to come to accrington past the dunk hotel you pass a fixed speed camera then head down a steep incline.Police and speed traps like to hide there at the bottom to catch people that are putting their foot downa little to get their car ready for the steep incline ahead.Iv known people get tickets for doing 33mph on that one which is a tad harsh but like its been said speeding is speeding :rolleyes:]

funny thing is 2 miles away the police do sod all about red light jumpers at whitebirk which is a more dangerous threat in my opinion and more likely to cause death

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i think it was flashy a membe ron here whos sisters tyre was blown out by a hole in the road a while back.Im not sure how she got on with teh council .Maybe she will see this and let us know if she got her dammage repaired by the council

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I certainly agree with that, there`s definitely worse offences, there`s this right pratt I see a lot on my way home, I come down shad road to the lights at intack, in a queue waiting to turn right, he just comes right passed everyone down the wrong side of the road and straight through the lights.

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err, how am I supposed to that when its illegal to stop on the motorway? Never mind having the balls to be knelt down with a 10p piece whilst artics are whizzing past me! :D

there are some absolute HUGE potholes on my journey to work, mostly on M66/60/6. I've caught one or two quite heavily and I'm surprised with the silly low profile tyres that are now fitted to most cars the wheel itself wasn't damaged.

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You`ve got me there.:)

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Just because a modern car is capable of going faster and stopping faster, it doesn't mean the limits should go up. There are many more cars on the road than there were, so it cancels out any benefit given by technology.

About 20 years ago, a girl I used to work with was two seconds behind a Porsche on the motorway. It stopped, for whatever reason, and they went into the back of it. Her "defence" was that it was a performance car that stopped far quicker than the van she was in, so it wasn't her fault... :rolleyes:

It wouldn't bother me if the police started a zero-tolerance policy to road speeds. I do try to keep within the limit, but occasionally go over. My view is that if I'm tagged, I'm not paying enough attention and so the punishment is justified.

No journey I make is ever important enough to speed. When I used to do weddings, and my arrival time was non-negotiable, I just set out earlier...

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the only good thing cameron has wanted is a 80mph limit on motorways but the crybaby bitches afraid of doing more thaqn 50mph on a motorway got their way and stopped it

if government was truely dedicated to safe speed they woudlnt allow cars on the road that can do 150mph like mine can they would all be fitted with limiters by law

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how about we actually start convicting people for stupidity...

the speed limit on motorways was instigated becausde at a time that the average family saloon could just about push 80 and took 1/4 of a mile to stop from that speed the Jag E type and AC cobra were being tested at ~ 150 up the M1 with full media cover

nowadays my 4 door saloon car is limited to 155 and stop from 80 in less than half the distance despite weighing 2.5 tonnes thanks to all the technology at play ( ABS, vastly superior tyres technology, suspension )

my beef has always been that we don't have variable speed limits, at rush hour on an icy sleeting Feb morning 50 is probably right for motorways, at 5am on a beautiful summer morning 120 would be equally safe.


We should also consider what the police do, have an extra test for those who wish to qualify to drive faster by showing greater skill levels. give them a huge badge to stick on the front of their car, say a circle with 4 quarters, two blue, two white, surround it with a nice black circle to make it stand out..... :)

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Being a owner of one of those badges..... I do hope we aren't going to get into the usual knock the blue and white circle driver.
I agree something should be done for bad driving, speed should not come into it.
Inappropriate speed kills, not just speed.

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I'm with you there Si, there is no excuse for speeding no matter where or what road or conditions are, every body passes a test and learns the Highway Code, which gives you the speed limit, motorist can even plead ignorance of the law in this case all motorists know what the law on speeding is, end of story

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speed kills ive been a witness to a fatal crash which a driver was speeding down a motorway and clipped a car which knocked the clipped car into a central reservation .both were speeding 3 deaths.cars are not toys there are speed restrictions for a reason.speed kills fact.

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130 kmh (80 mph) Autobahn speed limits here, but folk regularly travel faster. The Police tolerate it as long as you're driving sensibly, safely & not endangering other road users & that the vehicle is capable enough.

Added to that, on the 3 laners you don't often find iidiots tooling along endlessly in the centre lane doing 90 kmh (55 mph) when the insides free. The Outside tends to be the domain of the Audi, Merc & BMW. ;)

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not defending speeding excessivly here but that seems to have been caused through carelessness rather than speed infact the same result would most likely have occured at a 70mph impact

someone not looking over their shoulder when moving into the fast lane at 60mph can cause death .Its not always about speed its usually peoples neglegence that causes accidents

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when i spoke to the copper he said if they were doing the right speed the car wouidnt have took off to somersault about 6 times and miss the barrier.

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thats his opinion but cars can flip over at less than teh speed limit iv been in one when it has flipped over.Like i said speed isnt always the main factor in an accident theres other variables as well its just easy to say oh well speed done it

really sounds like im defending excessive speeding lol but its teh easy option to blame speed its as though accidents and deaths dont occur under 70mph

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my pal used to live in germany when he was based there sering in the army and he told me the outside lane on the autoban had no limit but if you had an accident your insurance wa sinvalid.Said it was mainly used by high end performance cars and if you went in with a car only capable of doing 140mph you were asking for trouble.

is that wrong ?

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Like I mentioned, you cross into Germany from any border crossing & there's a big sign advising you of the speed limits on specific roads, Autobahns 130 kmh. As I also pointed out it's pretty much a free hand (or should that be foot?:)) as long as you're safe & sensible.

Sticking to restrictions were applicable, then getting the boot down when you can, all happy bunnies (except the tree hugging enviro-mentalists! Still when are they ever happy?:rolleyes:). Folks getting to & from, work, play or whatever all at reasonable speeds & time.

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the best example of dangerous speed i have ever witnessed was an old couple pulled up in the fast lane at night with the interior light on looking at a map on the motorway..

i nearly filled my trousers to put it politely

zero mph almost deadly it wa sonly a little red micra

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BBC News - Autobahn speed limits: Germany's love of the fast lane

this seems to suggest otherwise...

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Seem to remember a pretty strict max/min limit on one particular section of Autobahn - lovely sightseeing on the road to Berlin - all the T34s etc with brewer's droop:rolleyes:

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lol so over here speed is stigmatised and over in germany its a human right lol

maybe something to staying in the EU after all ..

JOKING

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I can remember watching a car go flying past the front window of the Coach and Horses pub on Haslingden Old Road, ended up wedged in a tree next to the barn, the driver lost control taking the double bends just before the pub, hit the kerb and took off, the driver walked away with hardly a scratch, one lucky chap

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That sounds very familiar, except I landed on top of the barn upside down.:eek:

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I agree about upping the limit and that cars go and stop better but we have an aweful lot of idiots on the roads that are terrible drivers.

I have just spent 3 days down south working and they are terrible drivers. On the M1 coming back north, its 4 lanes and a young lady was sat in lane 3 for about 5 miles. She was doing about 70 but she never once changed lane even though there was nothing in lanes 1 and 2 and cars were backing up behind her to get past. I was sat behind her in lane 1 laughing at her

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The 4x4 comment is rubbish. It's any type of vehicle including taxis stopping wherever they want because no one is ever around to stop them doing it. What annoys me most is traffic lights meaning nothing and bad parking blocking the road and footpath for motorists and pedestrians.

I had a heated discussion with a Police man the other week because he had parked on the yellow zig zags outside a school at school closing time

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A couple of months back I was doing well over 90mph on the M65 at about 4.30am on my way home from nights. I was in full auto pilot mode and didn't notice a car catching me up. He pulled level with me and that was when I spotted he was a police car. He waved with a slow down type wave then he put his foot down and sped off :D

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We do have variable speed limits but they are mainly down south because southerners crash into each other for fun (they crash into each other in Blackburn as well but thats for the insurance money)

I was sat at 50mph on the M1 yesterday morning for no reason at all. It was a lovely morning perfect for driving. 4 lane motorway with very little traffic and we were stuck at 50mph for miles. The problem with variable speed on motorways with lots of camera behind the variable sign is those without and possible even those with cruise control are spending too much time looking at the speedometer and not the road.

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Well it weren't thee, the Barn has the same (or had) the same roof level of the pub:D

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What type of 4 x 4 do you have Neil:rolleyes:

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Was about level with road when I landed on it. Went too fast round the bend, caught the kerb, car flipped over, wnet through a wall and landed on the barn roof. Novemberish 1990. One hell of a white knuckle ride.

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i was going to say "jesus christ"

but he probbably wasnt there

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I don't, I still have the same car I have had for 6 years with 276,000 miles on the clock. It's getting a little tired now but just did the 450 mile drive to Hertfordshire and back with a bit of driving around down there. It just sits on the motorway all day long doing anything upto getting a ban speed without complaining.

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Maybe he was and was having a little fun flipping him over

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All these years I`ve been blaming myself and it was all him. Oh well, no harm done really, apart from losing my no claims.:)

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i once got pulled over on the M65

the copper said he had been waiting all day to catch somone like me

i said i know thats why i was driving so fast i wanted to get there as soon as i could


NAH i didnt but one day i will get to use that one :D

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The incident I refer too was in the late seventies and it was a sunny June day:D

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I was pulled over on the M65 almost 20 years ago and on the M6 a couple of years ago.

I have been chased by the Police dog van but got away only to be pulled over by another Police car when I was about 50 yards from home. He just finished telling me that even though it was 3am and the roads were empty I should slow down when the dog van turned up

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iv had police dogs set on me when i was younger.I was a pretty fast runner back then but the dog still won.It didnt grab me because i stopped running when i realised i wasnt going to win that particular race but im pretty sure i woulda got a bite if i hadnt stopped lol.

turned out the police wernt after me i just heard the policeman shout stop and with my then relationship with accys finest i thought sod this lark and legged it lol

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Gabriel is an over inflated blimp, lots of noise but little substance & as for the greens ................ The motoring industry in Germany (Mercedes, BMW, Porsche, VW, to name a few) carry a fair bit of clout so there's not going to be change anytime soon.

Aye Barrie, the A10, Berlin corridor, checkpoint Bravo/Charlie, us watching you, watching us, happy days. :)

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Must be an accident black spot then, need to put some speed humps there to slow down the numpties who go to fast.:D

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Sorry no sympathy for anybody caught speeding (and I was last year) if ya going from a 40 to a 30 ya should be doing 30 as ya pass the 30mph sign simple as !!!!!!!!!! as for raising the speed limit on the motorway just because modern cars are much better is tosh cos ya raise it to 80mph the idiots do 90 mph, plus drivers these days have many more distractions i.e radio,sat nav oh and the favorite of all the mobile. was walking up Henry street yesterday at about 4pm traffic was stationary heading towards Ossy young lass anchored on just before chippy then traffic pulled away an she just sat there came past me eventually and guess what, yep she was texting and continued to do so as she turned into Tanpits.

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The coach and horses was my watering hole back in the late 70s the number of accidents near those bends was incredible, the police were always spoiling our after time sessions:rolleyes: Think the worst one I ever saw was a motor bike accident on the Haslingden side, the road was still one way when we were going home, the rider had been decapitated, what's more the poor guy was a neighbor of the wife's mother

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I was told a story like that several times when I was younger, trying to put me off getting a bike I think. If it`s the same one, he lived near us also, around Queens Road West area, and from the way he died, he had a rather ironic surname.

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there used to be a corner shop on westwood street opposite saint mary mags church and wether this is true or not i dont know but legend or whatever says that a motorcyclist lost control and went through the window.Apparantly he lost his head which landed in the bit wher eyou put your basket when paying for your stuff.

i do remember the window been boarded up and the street been cordened off but as for teh accident i would have only been about 10 or 11 so it may just have been kids assuming or telling tales as to what happened

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This guy came from Helmshore Mr G.

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no ones asking for sympathy just common sense from coppers and a bit of leeway,hell even a little less sneakyness as well

i forget which council did this but one removed all speed cameras and dosnt have mobile cameras either in a deal with drivers that if teh accident rate didnt go higher they would stay gone.Accident reports fell probbably because folk wernt slamming on when seeing a mobile camera unit or watching the road instea dof tehir speedo

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Swindon, although the police mobile units still operate.

Swindon has UK?s safest roads after SCRAPPING speed cameras - Yahoo! Cars

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what about them scumbags that arnt coppers that sit in yellow vans pointing them not acurate speed guns at people?

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It seems that many are obsessed by speed.
A few extra mph may get you there early or on time, but is it really worth the risk?

It is a manifestation of the rat race.
If you can't opt out, just slow down.

You may have less time to sit in front of the goggle box, but there's nothing lost there.

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someone once said to me that speeding dosnt get you to where you want to go any faster

i would just like to confirm that is bollocks you do get to where you want to go faster

its simple maths really i dont know why people say otherwise

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Did arriving earlier make any difference?

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yes i wasnt late for my appointment if i had believed driving faster dosnt alter the outcome of your arrival time i would have been late:)

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Why not set off earlier?

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Over a long distance, you will get there quicker. But over a short distance then maybe not.
I work up Shad Ind. Est. and on the way home I see this one guy who likes to put his foot down, overtaking everyone at every chance along blackburn road and through west end and everytime when I get to commercial lights he`s right there.
My brother used to live in Germany and I remember when visiting once he told me on a stretch of dual carriageway, that the lights were timed so that if you kept to the limit, the lights will be on green, if you speed you get to the lights sooner and they will be on red.

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Swindon has some of the weirdest roads I've ever seen and yellow lines everywhere even on back streets that aren't wide enough for cars File:Magic Roundabout Schild db.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Seen a lot of nasty accidents on the motorways on my journeys to and from Bristol, some have been fatal. Was very lucky once to not run into the back of a speeding white van who hadn't noticed the traffic had almost stopped and so to avoid the car in front of him he pulled in to the lane I was in without warning.

If you want to speed then that's up to you. What bugs me is when people are speeding and they try and intimidate others who choose not to speed.

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i overslept and dont possess a time machine :confused:

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spot on if its town travel you wont gain anything but on the motorway and if conditions are right you can cut a lot of time off a journey.Hence why i dont see a problem with doing a little extra on a motorway if its clear and is most likely why a lot of traffic officers take the driving conditions and how busy a motorway is into concideration when deciding to give you a ticket or a warning

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There's a few places like that, Gutersloh ring road & Bad Oyenhausen main drag spring to mind, if you travel at the stated speed 60 kmh (37 mph) or just below, you get a "Grunewelle" green wave & the traffic flows, to fast or to slow you'll be catching red lights.

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He was in diusburg / dusselforf and Kiel. Went over there a few times and can`t remember which one it was.

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Not that she will be on here but if that daft woman had bothered to look in her mirrors on the M6 this evening she would have noticed the big green thing rapidly getting bigger and it would not have been a surprise to find it a few inches from her bumper with its nose pointing downwards.

It's not always speed that causes accidents but other drivers assuming everyone is doing 60mph like they are.

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I`m guessing she wasn`t in the left lane. What big green thing are you talking about?

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had some daft tart today heading towards the roundabout along hyndburn road coming from asda direction decide she wanted a mcdonalds and promptly turned right into mcdonalds almost causing a pile up

big thick white lines obviously mean something else to some folk ffs

also i must really attract these morons because tonight coming into ossy some absolute prick in a black peugout 207 heading towards ossy from blackburn road jumped a red light and he had 3 kids on the back seat.Wonder how impressed the mrs would have been if he had killed them

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Did your mother in law live on Broadway Jaysay?

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The big green thing was me in a green car

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Big thick white lines and no right turn sign mean nothing when the police don't care

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When I lived in Hassy, if I'd been to my parents home in Ossy I used to go home via Fielding Lane Haslingden Old Road, I lost count of the time's a boy racer was tailgating me in a rush to get passed, usually having to duck in or go headlong into an oncoming lorry, the problem was he was risking life and limb to get the traffic lights at the Worsley park junction before me:rolleyes:

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Only yourself to blame then :rolleyes:

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No Mr G. she lived in the Village not far from the Robin Hood

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There is always the exception to the rule, When I worked for Shopfitters I stayed at my mates home in Chorley so we could have an early start for a lunchtime booking down south, this was the early 70s, we joined the motorway and it was pretty much empty except for a few cars, then we came across the SUNDAY DRIVER sat in the middle lane doing 30mph, now being in a Ford 2 ton Lorry we weren't allowed into the overtaking lane, but of course our SD must not be aware of it and no matter how many times my mate piped the horn or flashed the lights the guy was not for moving, his wife was looking round giving us black looks, until after about 10 miles he pulled over, as we drove by he look up and shouted there's another lane you know, I informed him with words of one syllable that the law prevented us from undertaking on the inside or use the overtaking lane, think he got the message

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It's because going fast doesn't necessarily change your average speed, and it's that you need to increase in order to get to your destination sooner.

On Friday afternoon I was coming back from Clitheroe and arrived at the A59 at the same time as someone in a Fiat 500 Abarth. I stayed left at 50, he thrashed it down the outside lane, and cut in ahead of someone right at the big roundabout with the A671 - he'd gained about 350 metres. By the time I arrived at the lights he was two cars in front. He hammered it again to get past the cars ahead of him so he disappeared from view - until we got to the lights where we split off on the 680 towards Great Harwood. Now there was only one car between us. At the turn into Harwood, the separating car continued off into Clayton. We arrived at my destination at the same time.

I hadn't needed to stop at the two sets of lights, he had. So that had cut his average speed down to the same as mine, even though he'd been thrashing it whenever he could.

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Stevie R asked you that Jaysay.:D

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Sorry Cashy its my age:rolleyes::D

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Keep taking the pills as we all do.