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I live up bash as most know, for some reason they have decided that despite no accidents I can think of in the 14 years I've been up here never mind the speed of the car at the time they are making all streets off Manchester road 20 mph zones and fitting signs on every single junction including streets that are about 60 foot long that go nowhere like ley street

Link to google street view of ley street,

Rock Street, Accrington - Google Maps


yet, if you happen to be a tad early or late with your child to/from school the lollipop lady isn't out you have to try and get across one of the busiest roads in accy without any official crossing at all.


To all county Councillors, if you genuinely care for safety of our kids, stop wasting money when its not needed and put it towards a zebra/pelican crossing outside the pub/chemist where it would be used to good value

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They are putting them everywhere. Got ours (in the remote fringe of Ossy) several months ago. They started near schools first .

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/reque...peed_restricti

"Lancashire County Council is committed to introducing 20mph speed limits
in all main residential areas and outside schools by the end of 2013. The
majority of commuter routes will be largely unaffected to keep traffic
moving; however in cases where pedestrian activity takes precedence over
the through movement of motor vehicles (such as near shops and
playgrounds) these will also be included.



Reducing speeds to 20mph will have a direct impact on pedestrian safety
and is one of the principal reasons for introducing the programme across
the county. Schemes are being developed and implemented on an area wide
basis to give a consistent message to all road users that travelling at
20mph is fast enough for main residential areas and outside schools.



The 20mph speed limit programme was approved by County Councillor Tim
Ashton, Cabinet Member for Highways and Transport, and details of this can
be found at"....

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It really gives you the hump doesn't it?
Why not take all the Tarmac away and give us the solid foundation of cobbled streets again? They are still under there, no-one drives fast on cobbubbubblles, sorry was typing as I drive, hit a cobbled patch.

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They are putting signs on short alleyways where you cant get a vehicle up to 20mph .They need to live in the real world

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Totally typical of the knobheads that make decisions at L.C.C.:rolleyes:

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Surely it's the County Councils job to waste twice as much money as the local council, otherwise there would be no point having a bigger level of bureaucracy :rolleyes:

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I'd have cobbles back over stupid speed humps any day


hey we could use it as a marketing tool by the council,

"The town that went back in time"

we could revert to gas lamps fueled by the stuff coming out of whinney hill and stop it stinking the local residents out as well, two birds with one stone


any more anyone?

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they have even put 20mph signs on streets that dont have houses and are only a few meters long

what a bloody joke it is when in such hard times this pathetic waste of money probbably costing millions is wasted while other services get stripped away

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Was on my hols last week and saw this sign everywhere, think it means stop, made me smile though.

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There are 20mph roads all round West End now and speed.bumps on Thwaites Rd. But how come Harvey St. Is used like a formula 1 track? There are no traffic calming measures in place though there have been several accidents over the last few years. I can hear cars screeching over there in the middle of the night as well as all day long. The police used,occasionally, to send mobile speed cameras but I haven't seen one for years.

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what makes that road even more dangerous are the arseholes thattake their kids to football practice and double park on the brow so you have just enough room for one car to get through but no idea if anything is coming the other way head on

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Well they do spend (sorry waste) around 80% of your council tax Dave what do you expect

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These athletic footballers don't walk do they?

At Heys field football pitch site -
some match days their cars have filled the 'residents only' car park, the allotment car park, the kerb side, and then even parked on the grass verge - because the 30 parking spaces provided on site are inadequate.

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Certain parts of Accrington have had 20 mph speed limits for years, makes no difference. I asked a guy from LCC how they planned to implement the 20mph speed limit, given where there are already such speed limits no enforcement ever happens. He said by pulling at people's heart strings using crash images. If that worked people wouldn't speed in these areas to start with.

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well thats bound to work isnt it lol

i remember a similar tactic been used infact it still is where they put all sorts of horrible pictures on ciggarettes to put people off smoking.I recall taking a long deep drag on my ciggy as i looked atthe picture trying to figure out exactly what dissease they were showing

i have actually given up but not because of teh pictures but because it was becoming harder and harder to convince my youngest i had given up so rather than get caught in the act i stopped :)

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That's the best reason I've heard for giving up smoking accyman, if only more parents would do that:mosher:

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Harvey Street should not be a 20mph limit. What it needs is for the Police to start enforcing the traffic laws.

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We have cobbles in front of our house. I do think they look good but they can be very icy in winter.

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That's not on the road though Neil, is it, I could never understand why they put cobbles there really because, as you say, they become very slippery in winter

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Most of the old 20mph limits were in fact 20mph zones and were not enforceable. If its a 20mph limit there has to be regular repeater signs (I can't remember how far apart they have to be). In a 20mph zone there is one sign as you enter the zone and one as you leave it. In a zone there has to be other traffic calming methods in place so you can't drive faster than 20mph. Without these traffic calming methods the zones are not enforceable. Lots of information on the internet about 20mph speed limits and zones.

I think it is a major balls up. Nationally they should have reduced the limit to 20mph and put up 30mpg signs where you are allowed to do 30mph.

If you read the rules on speed limits it tells you if its single carriageway with street lamps its a 30mph limit unless signed otherwise. So if you're on a road with street lamps and drive at 30mph you're safe. That is no longer the case. You could be in a 20mph area but missed the repeater because a van was parked next to it.

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Any rules are a waste of time, if they aint enforced, simple as.

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I can never understand why they put No Ball Games signs up either, they ain't enforceable ;)

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whatit needs is a traffic cop not a traffic warden

traffic cops can give points as well as fines a traffic warden cant

dish a few points out and word will get round and folk will stop endangering not only other drivers but the people using the playing fields

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No, but it gives the kids something to aim for thus improving their game.
http://2003.giffnocksoccercentre.com...OOTBALLER.jpeg

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it should also be law that traffic calming methods dont cause dammage to a car.Its a bloody joke how high or steep some speed bumps are giving your car an almighty thump even at 20mph no doubt damaging your wheel or bearings.If a speed limit is 30mph a car should be able to go over a speed bump at 30 and not feel it or at least not be a danger to your cars health so to speak

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i think its to discourage dogging

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you want to see what they've done to dill hall lane .... 20mph speed signs erected going into the cul-de-sac , a 30ft stretch of road going into St Nicholas's , a bit of waste land next to the old post office and more waste land further up on left .... absolute joke!

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You would have died laughing if you had been at Entwistle Reservoir the other Saturday evening. There was about 12 of us still on the car park waiting for a few friends to come back from the res. One of our group of friends had lost a dog at 1pm and we had been looking for her since then. About 10pm there was a lot of traffic and some strange things going on :rolleyes:

Funniest night out I have had for years that didn't include beer :D

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I don't know why you get worked up about it. It the County Council, they do stupid things so just accept it.

To makes matters worse you can't blame the Councillors because where to put up the signs will have been decided by Council Officers not Councillors.

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You mean the ducks were all wearing new willies Neil:rolleyes:

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To stop some scuzzy little 'erberts jiggling their plums about on the street corners! :D

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Na they hang them signs on lampposts Dave:D

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what is/are police. Police are an endangered species aren't they?

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You'll soon see if your doing 40 in a 30 zone:rolleyes:

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Did someone spot yeh Dogging?:D Good excuse though,:hehetable

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There was a fella there almost as old as you mate, so you if you're bored tomorrow night I am sure they would make you welcome :p

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the answer is clearly simple..

to avoid getting speeding fines from cameras simply purchase a car that can do 180mph as anything over that they cant register the speed as demostrated on top gear:D

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Even easier is to put someone elses number plates on your car

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Or bend the speed camera away from the road...like the one between Greenbank and Little Harwood chippy :D

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there used to be a very nice bunch of chaps who used to go around chainsawing down speed cameras.The news tried to protray them as monsters and the most horendous lawbreakers on the planet but no one well at least anyone of sound mind bought the crap the police were shoveling

dont hear about them anymore i only recall one person getting caught after he went a tad too far and planted explosives on a speed camera and blew it to smitherines lol

nice set of chaps we could do with a few more like them :D

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Here are some monsters

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i wonder if enough heat was generated to destroy the pictures

regardless - good effort ill give them a 7

i wonder if it works on mobile camera vans or do you have to weld teh doors on teh van shut first:D

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I thought it needed more car tyres

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definatley a lot of wasted fire on teh floor they need to work on containment

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As I`ve said in another thread, I don`t have a problem with speed cameras. But if you want to stop a speed camera catching you, why not just cover the camera lens with something.

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Carry a paint ball gun around that should suffice :D

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i dont have a problem with speed cameras when in the correct places its teh ones that are purely set up to create revenue i object to.

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No such thing accyman, if people keep to the speed limits there's no revenue to be made, just like there's no prison cell if you don't break into banks, laws are there for a purpose, break them and you suffer the consequences, simple;)

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your pies get to you fresh as they do becaus eof one main reason

i dont dilly dally around when transporting them :D:D:D:D

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I was meaning to have a word with you about that:D:D:D