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I did the same thing Maragret, could not find anything, however the source seems to be Russian, well there's a surprise and even more it is just a suggestion, as I have said a few times, it is interesting that the Russians have a close relationship with the Assad regime.
Back to the unpalatable taste that is happening, people are being killed for no good reason, Men, Women and Children and yet the resident dog stabber gloats at how the British Government were defeated. In order order there is this: Dan Hodges Quits Labour Over Syria - Guy Fawkes' blog Briefly it tells of the five demands Ed Milliband made to David Cameron over the vote for action on Syria and how David Cameron agreed to those on the understanding that he would get the support of the Labour Party, only to find out Milliband has used this as a change for political gain..... The Conservative party may not be very nice, but how can anyone vote for Labour with this clown in charge, he has allowed the Syrian regime to carry on murdering innocent human beings for his own political gain, he has blood on his hands. Thank goodness we did not have Ed Milliband around in the late 1930's or even the early 1980's........ |
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but we are skint we cant afford it. we let or own people live off food banks now. why should we care about anybody else. its all about selling weapons dont kid yourself it was going to be done following some moral code. the link i put in has been took down by the internet police it was working fine yesterday.
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It saddens me to think that a man who has children can give orders for civilian population of his own people to be hit with biological weapons...weapons for which there can be no excuse. (I do believe it was the Assad regime who used these weapons...and before anyone tells me that beliefs are not facts....I know, but the other arguments do not make sense to me)
Now even the President of the US is going to follow the lead of our PM and go to the representatives of the public. Does this mean that they have seen the futility of wading into a region that is in conflict, and where they can make no good difference...only make matters worse? Why are the Arab nations sitting on their hands? Isn't this conflict in their backyard? And what a surprise! France has decided that it cannot take on this conflict on its own...but was ready to hang onto the coat tails of the bigger and more powerful US. |
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Sorry...I forgot. You don't do discussion or debate...you rely on posting dubious links from publications......and cut and paste stuff out of context. I'm not entirely sure you really do know what should be the outcome. If, as you say, we haven't got the money to indulge in a conflict, then shouldn't you be rejoicing that we aren't going to be involved. Nations who want to go to war always find the money from somewhere...even if that is at the expense of budgets at home. |
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Margaret your wasting your time he's not interested in right or wrong a bit like the clown in charge of his party, just so long as he can grin like a Cheshire cat in the commons, after he's forced his troops through the lobbies to back him in fear of their careers Jones has never voted on his own agenda but you can see where the ring on his nose goes after the lobby bell rings
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this is interesting history from syria
1940-1944: French rule is broken by the capitulation of France to the Nazis. The British and Free French forces defeat the Vichy forces in Syria, but necessity forces them to allow the Syrians to largely take over their own government. [5] 1944: September - Despite French opposition, the US and Soviets recognize Syria as a sovereign state. British recognition follows a year later. France refuses to withdraw its troops without Syria granting it privileges. [5] 1945: January - The Syrian government forms its own army and declares war on the Axis powers. [5] March - Syria joins the UN. [5] April - Syria joins the League of Arab States. [5] May - In response to demonstrations in Damascus and Aleppo against the continued French presence, the French bomb and machine-gun Damascus. There is also fighting in Homs and Hamah. A British threat to intervene forces the French to order a ceasefire. [5] 1946: February - A UN resolution calls on the French to leave Syria. [5] April - The last French troops leave Syria. [5] 1947: November - The UN declaration calling for partition of Palestine into Jewish and Arab states provokes a general strike in Damascus and major rioting throughout Syria. Armed bands of irregulars from Syria's fledgling armed forces begin to raid Jewish settlements near the Syrian border. [5] 1948: May - Syrian troops join the fight against Israel. Syrian forces consist of 8,000 troops, a battalion of French built tanks and a small air force. They attack Israel near Lake Tiberias (Sea of Galilee) from the Golan Heights. [5] June - The UN imposes a truce with Israel. The Arab forces had proved incompetent and the Syrians had been driven back across their border in all but two locations. [5] October - Following Syria's defeat, the war along Israel's northern border ends. [5] 1949: March - The British, French and US back a successful coup by Brigadier General Husni al Zaim. One of the first acts of the new regime is to approve the building of a US owned oil pipeline, which the previous government had not approved. [3] [5] [19] [21] July - The last sporadic fighting along the Israeli border ceases with the signing of a Syrian-Israeli armistice agreement. About 100,000 Palestinians fled to Syria from Israel during and after the war. [5] August - Coup led by Brigadier General Sami al Hinnawi. Both Zaim and Prime Minister Muhsin al Barazi are executed. [5] November - Elections in which women are allowed to vote for the first time. [5] 1951: November - Military coup by Adib Shishakli. [5] 1952: April - Shishakli bans all political parties except his own. [5] 1953: July - Syria is made a presidential republic with Shishakli as president. [5] 1954: February - Shishakli is overthrown in another military coup. A civilian government is restored. [5] Syria starts to build relations with the Soviet Union. [5] 1955: December - Israeli forces kill 50 Syrian troops in a cross border attack. [5] 1956: October - A US instigated coup by Michail Bey Ilyan is called off when Israel invades Egypt. The UK was also involved in planning this coup. [1] [2] [3] November - The US embassy in Syria has false reports placed in the US and British press stating that Russian arms are pouring into Syria, including "not more than 123 Migs". There were none. [2] 1957: February - The Soviet Union calls for a declaration by the US, USSR, UK and France that they will all renounce the use of force and interference in the internal affairs of Middle Eastern countries. They also call for an embargo on arms shipments to the region, the withdrawal of all foreign troops, the liquidation of all foreign bases and a conference to reach a general Middle East settlement. The US, UK and France all refuse. [2] April - The Soviet Union renews its call for a declaration by the four powers. [2] August - Another CIA organised coup attempt is foiled when Syrian army officers bribed by the CIA tell Syria's head of intelligence about it; handing him their bribe money as they do so. The CIA officers concerned are expelled from the country. [1] [2] September - The US sends its Sixth Fleet to the Mediterranean and sends arms and other military equipment to Jordan, Lebanon, Iraq, Turkey and Saudi Arabia. The US also has Turkey move 50,000 troops to its border with Syria. The US is apparently trying to goad Syria into a use of force in order to justify a military intervention. In response the Soviet Union ships arms to Syria, Egypt and Yemen. However, Syria did not rise to the bait and other Arab states refused to back up the US rhetoric that Syria was a threat and Soviet satellite. [2] British government documents show how the CIA and MI6 planned to use fake border incidents as an excuse for invasion by Syria's pro- western neighbours and then assassinate three key government figures. [20] The Soviet Union again renews its call for a declaration by the four powers. [2] 1958: January - Syria and Egypt anounce their plans to unite, forming the United Arab Republic. Syria was partly motivated to propose this plan for fear of further US moves against her. As part of the arrangement the Communist Party in Syria is dissolved. [2] May - An armed rebellion begins in Lebanon after growing discontent with the pro-US government earlier elected with the help of the CIA. Syria supplies the rebels with some arms, men and money, as does Egypt. [2] 1960: February - Israel conducts a raid into Syrian territory. [5] 1961: July - Various industries are nationalised. [5] September - After increasing dissatisfaction with a Egypt's dominance of the UAR, a military coup is staged and Syria secedes from the UAR. [5] December - General elections. [5] 1962: January - Many previously nationalised industries are returned to private ownership. [5] February - Land reforms are reversed to favour landlords. [5] March - After these unpopular changes another military coup ousts the government. [5] April - After protests in several cities against the coup president Qudsi is returned to power by the military leaders, but unrest continues. [5] US president, John F. Kennedy, meets the British Prime Minister, Macmillan, in London and they agree to "Penetration and cultivation of disruptive elements in the Syrian armed forces, particularly in the Syrian army, so that Syria can be guided by the West." [2] 1963: January - Another coup is attempted, but fails. [5] March - Another military coup. Salah al Din al Bitar becomes prime minister. [5] July - Another attempted coup fails after intense fighting in Damascus. [5] November - Bitar resigns and Hafiz becomes prime minister. [5] 1964: April - Urban unrest becomes violent. [5] May - Hafiz resigns and Bitar becomes prime minister again. [5] 1966: February - Another coup makes Nureddin Atassi president and Yusuf Zuayyin prime minister. Salah al Jadid, the coup leader, became head of the armed forces. [5] September - A countercoup fails. [5] 1967: June - Israel attacks Syria, Egypt and Jordan in the Six Day War. Syria makes no major move of its ground forces. From Syria Israel seizes the Golan Heights. They also destroy most of the Syrian air force. An estimated 2,500 Syrian troops are killed and about 100,000 civilians driven from their homes in the Golan. This defeat causes a power shift within the government. Syria goes on to support a Palestinian guerilla force, As Saiqa, but does not allow it to launch attacks against Israel from Syrian soil for fear of reprisals by Israel. At the same time Syria is critical of Jordan and Lebanon for seeking to control the Palestinian groups in their territories. [5] 1970: September - Syria sends some 200 tanks to support the Palestinian guerillas in Jordan against the Jordanian government, who have launched an offensive against the guerillas who are challenging the government's authority. The US sends its Sixth Fleet to the Eastern Mediterranean, threatening to intervene on Jordan's behalf. Israel also made known its wilingness to intervene. Against such opposition and also lacking support from its own air force due to political division, Syria is forced to withdraw. [5] November - Jadid, who had wanted to support the Palestinian guerillas in Jordan, is removed from his position by units of Assad's army and detained under guard. Assad becomes prime minister and minister of defense. Ahmad al Khatib is made acting president. [5] 1971: Fighting in Jordan between the PLO and Jordanian forces continues throughout this year, but most of the PLO fighters move to Syria. But the Syrian government places severe restrictions on them and most move to Lebanon. [5] March - Assad is elected president. [5] April - Syria, Egypt and Libya form the Federation of Arab Republics. [5] 1973: May - Diplomatic relations with Britain are restored. [5] October - Syria and Egypt attack Israel to try and regain territory previously lost to Israel. Syria deploys 45,000 men against Israel's 4,500 stationed in the Golan Heights on 6th October, the holy day of Yom Kippur in the Israeli calendar. Initially they gain much ground, but Israel then receives huge influxes of weapons from the US and counter attacks, driving them back. Israeli forces then advance into Syria destroying missile systems, oil installations, power plants, bridges and port facilities. A UN ceasefire is accepted on 24th October, but sporadic fighting continues until the disengagement in March 1974. An estimated 7,000 Syrian troops are killed and 21,000 wounded, in addition 600 tanks, 165 aircraft and 7 naval vessels are lost or destroyed. An additional 845 square kilometers of territory are taken by Israel. [5] [6] 1974: March - As part of the disengagement agreement with Israel, Israel withdraws from newly captured territory and also from a narrow strip of the Golan Heights territory held since 1967. This strip forms part of a demilitarized zone in which a UN observer force (UNDOF) is deployed. [5] 1975: A dispute over rights to the waters of the Euphrates River, a waterway essential to both countries, takes Syria and Iraq to the verge of war. Syria limited the water flowing out of its newly completed Euphrates (Tabaqah) Dam, thereby slowing the flow into Iraq. For two months both countries hurl invective at each other, and Syrian troops mass along the Iraqi border. Only Saudi Arabian mediation induces Syria to release more water from its Tabaqah reservoir "as a gesture of goodwill." [5] August - Syria and Jordan form a military alliance against Israel. [5] 1976: Syria provides troops to the Lebanese government in their civil war against the Palestinian guerillas. This is unpopular domestically and with other Arab countries although sanctioned by the Arab League. Syrian troops remain in eastern Lebanon after the war is over. [5] Late 1970's: There are a number of violent attacks directed at Assad's regime. The government blames these on Iraq and disaffected Palestinians and responds with public hangings in September 1976 and June 1977. [5] 1978: February - Assad is elected president for another 7 year term. [5] 1979: The Muslim Brotherhood claims credit for a series of attacks. The most serious occurs in June when 50 Alawi cadets at the military academy in Aleppo are killed by gunmen. [5] 1980: Intellectual and professional groups form an alliance demanding political reforms such as freedom of the press, freedom of political action, promulgation of civil law, an end to the state of emergency and free parliamentary elections. [5] June - Militants attempt to assassinate Assad. [5] August - The Iran-Iraq war begins. Syria aligns itself with Iran. [5] October - A Treaty of Friendship and Cooperation is signed with the Soviet Union. [5] 1981: March-April - Government security forces try to root out the Muslim Brotherhood from Hamah and Aleppo. 200 to 300 people are killed are parts of the cities destroyed. [5] December - Israel formally annexes the Golan Heights. [5] 1982: February - The Muslim Brotherhood ambushes government forces in Hamah. The military crushes the insurgents in two weeks of fighting. 10,000 to 25,000 people are killed, including about 1,000 soldiers and large sections of the city are destroyed. Subsequently an opposition alliance is formed called the National Alliance for the Liberation of Syria, including the Muslim Brotherhood, the Islamic Front, the pro-Iraqi wing of the Baath party and others. [5] Syria starts to receive oil from Iran as repayment for its support and compensation for the closure of the Iraqi oil pipeline running through Syria. [5] June - Israel invades Lebanon in order to crush the Palestinian and Shia groups there. They destroy Syrian surface-to-air missiles deployed in the Biqa Valley, as well as about 79 Syrian MiG-21 and MiG-23 aircraft. The US equipped Israeli's suffer only minor aircraft losses. Syrian armoured divisions prevent the Israeli's reaching the Damascus-Beirut highway, but Israeli forces move into West Beirut, attacking from land and sea, and laying seige to the Palestinian fighters there. [5] July - Under a US mediated agreement, PLO fighters are evacuated to various Arab countries and Syrian troops withdraw to the Biqa Valley in east Lebanon. [5] September - Israeli forces again enter West Beirut. They enter the Palestinian refugee camps of Sabra and Shatila and massacre civilians there. Israeli forces remain in Beirut for another year. [5] 1983: Syria supports a Palestinian rebellion against Yasir Arafat's leadership of the PLO in Damascus and eastern Lebanon. In June Arafat is expelled from Damascus. [5] 1985: November - Israel shoots down two Syrian MiG-23s in Syrian airspace. The Syrian aircraft had scrambled when Israeli aircraft flew over eastern Lebanon. Subsequently Syria deploys mobile SAM sites in eastern Lebanon and SAMs on its border with Lebanon. [5] 1987: February - Assad sends troops into Lebanon again to enforce a ceasefire in Beirut. [22] 1990: Syria is one of the many countries to accept US bribes to not oppose a war against Iraq. [2] 2000: June - Assad dies and is succeeded by his son, Bashar. [22] 2001: June - Syrian troops evacuate Beirut and redeploy in other parts of Lebanon, following pressure from Lebanese critics of Syria's presence. [22] 2002: The UK supplies Syria, amongst many other countries, with Toxic Chemical Precursors (TCPs) capable of being used in making chemical weapons. [4] 2003: The US makes plans for possible nuclear strikes against Iran, Iraq, Libya and Syria. [13] October - There is an Israeli air strike against an alleged Palestinian militant camp near Damascus. Syria says the action is "military aggression". [22] 2004: January - President Assad visits Turkey, the first Syrian leader to do so. The trip marks the end of decades of frosty relations. [22] May - The US imposes economic sanctions on Syria over what it calls its support for terrorism and failure to stop militants entering Iraq. [22] 2005: February-March - Tensions with the US escalate after the killing of former Lebanese PM Hariri in Beirut. Washington cites Syrian influence in Lebanon. Damascus is urged to withdraw its forces from Lebanon. [22] April - Syria withdraws the last of its military forces from Lebanon. [22] 2006: February - The US allocates $5 million to finance the Syrian opposition. [7] [8] June - Iran and Syria sign a defence agreement. [15] July - Thousands of people flee into Syria to escape Israel's bombardment of Lebanon. [22] September - Attack on the US embassy in Damascus. Four gunmen open fire and throw grenades but fail to detonate a car bomb. Three of them are killed, one is captured. [22] November - Iraq and Syria restore diplomatic relations after nearly a quarter century. [22] December - Aid agencies say they are struggling to cope with the growing numbers of Iraqis fleeing into Syria. [22] 2007: May - US blocks peace talks between Syria and Israel. [9] Syria jails opposition leader after visiting the US. [10] September - Israel bombs a site in Syria. No explanation is made by anyone. [11] [12] [14] 2008: February - The US imposes new sanctions on Syria. [16] Imad Mughniyeh, a Hezbollah leader, is killed in Damascus, probably by Mossad, the Israeli secret service. [17] March - Tens of thousands of Syrians protest against the Israeli |
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where did you cut and paste that chunk of text from?
If you are using someones research/information then at least do the courtesy of attributing it to that person or publication. |
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its all true more than one source confirms.. ha ha less
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sky news and the bbc say the government is under pressure to have another vote. where is this pressure coming from :confused: or just the news casters stirring it ,so they can report it and save them some effort broadcasting real news.
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And what you really mean when you say more than one source confirms it... is Mintpress...and some other loony publication that you try to corrupt your thought processes with(quite successfully it seems, so far). |
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Not just that, he's using my name in vain! |
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Less, I agree, but I'm not sharing my pile ointment with you! :)
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He would leave his ointment on the bathroom sink. Until... One of the lads filled the applicator with deep heat. :o |
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ooh.........owwww!
But, I know this is wicked,and inhumane...but I laughed! I bet the miserable waiter didn't laugh......how many italian swear words did you learn that night Less? |
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None, we shared neither the bathroom nor the bedroom, what do you think I am?
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Well, if someone had filled my pile ointment applicator with deep heat....they would have heard me in British Columbia...and all territories west!
(MP silently and whimsically wonders if C'mon has piles.........and whether we could persuade someone in the vicinity to..........oh NO,it would be just too, too cruel) |
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in a recent poll the majority of the british population does not want anything to do with this conflict;) according to another poll , if ed keeps voting against this he will win the general election with a landslide this is fact, so a politician listening to the people at last;)
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I cannot see anyone voting in a Labour government while this weak, policy lacking party have holes in their bottoms. there are a lot of people who are waking up to the damage that the last government wreaked during their last term of office. The lies and spin are remembered with horror(the Iraq war, unlimited immigration, the financila meltdown). |
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Yes, and we already knew which camp C'mon is in...didn't we?
He, like DC, has totally misread the situation. |
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Ah but that don't make yeh right B.G. Its only right if cmon says it.:rolleyes:
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I certainly don't think we should put boots on the ground and no war of whatever size can be won (?) without them. However, what will be EMs situation if there is another Chemical/Biological attack by whoever carried out the previous incidents?
As told to me by a Saudi - there can never be a Western style democracy in the Arab (Muslim), world - there can only ever be "one chair" (one leader). That applies to families, tribes, religious factions and nations. Let them get on with it. |
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I though Michael Foot was a liability for Labour back in the early 80s, but he actually makes Mr. Ed look like a world statesman, He was only elected with the help of the TUC because he was further left than Lenin, and they thought they could control him.
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another success of intervention .Special report: We all thought Libya had moved on ? it has, but into lawlessness and ruin - Africa - World - The Independent
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Why post stuff like that? No-ones interested in intervention at all,apart from a very few Cameronites.:rolleyes::rolleyes:
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for many years i have held teh belief that after two comes three so unless we are going to jump straight to ww4 i think its a safe bet the next war will be ww3
just to be safe though i feel it my dudty to preppare by playing a few more rounds of call of duty MW3 which holds more interest to me if im honest about it |
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As usual, it's the silent majority that has the solution to this problem, ladies you may want to shade your eyes (in case of over excitement) as Mick demonstrates the only way to go.
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Mick, I never realised you were a Cheese Eating French Surrender Monkey:D
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Looks like he's just showing off to me. Lol.
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Sent that photo to David Icke...there is definitely a lizard alien in his upper right pocket..not sure which one though?
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