Originally Posted by GEaston (Post 1064736)

Marge - it's far from a guarantee that I'll make any money on the properties. Renovation cost is substantial (tens of thousands for each building) because like so many properties in the town the previous owner let them to go to ruin. Not quite a pigeon coop like say the Conservative Club but not far off.

Once renovated who knows if I'll find a tenant, or a buyer. Noone wants to buy into the town - that's why the prices are as they are, but even then they don't attract buyers. Those Warner St properties failed to get any bids at 50k the pair the month before the auction I bought them (one of your best streets apparently), and the Hope & Anchor remains unsold after years at auction.

If I make a profit on it you'll begrudge it. If I don't you'll doubtless welcome that. However, in reality you should not look to the council or government to renovate the towns buildings - they won't do it and can't afford it. What the town needs is private people to take them on, preferably using local labour (exclusively in my case) and you should hope that they make some money on it to encourage them to take on other parts of the town.

Sam hit the nail on the head, a point that merits discussion particularly around solutions.

Originally Posted by susie123 (Post 1064738)

Post 38 on this thread, Mrs P did ask you not to use that form of address...

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...t-64446-3.html

As for you, of course you should be making a profit on the Warner street properties - that's what you're there for. It should not be up to council or government.

Originally Posted by GEaston (Post 1064736)

Marge - it's far from a guarantee that I'll make any money on the properties. Renovation cost is substantial (tens of thousands for each building) because like so many properties in the town the previous owner let them to go to ruin. Not quite a pigeon coop like say the Conservative Club but not far off.

Once renovated who knows if I'll find a tenant, or a buyer. Noone wants to buy into the town - that's why the prices are as they are, but even then they don't attract buyers. Those Warner St properties failed to get any bids at 50k the pair the month before the auction I bought them (one of your best streets apparently), and the Hope & Anchor remains unsold after years at auction.

If I make a profit on it you'll begrudge it. If I don't you'll doubtless welcome that. However, in reality you should not look to the council or government to renovate the towns buildings - they won't do it and can't afford it. What the town needs is private people to take them on, preferably using local labour (exclusively in my case) and you should hope that they make some money on it to encourage them to take on other parts of the town.

Sam hit the nail on the head, a point that merits discussion particularly around solutions.

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 1064722)

Not in my history books we didn't, 1485 Battle of Bosworth field, Henry Tudor kicks butt of Richard III, final score Lancs 1 - Tykes 0. :)

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1064749)

Oh, and I'm not being picky, but please do not address me as Marge.
I have nothing in common with Stork.

Originally Posted by DtheP47 (Post 1064760)

After Bosworth in 1486, he married Edward IV's daughter Elizabeth of York, thereby uniting the Yorkist and Lancastrian claims.

Right fine, I know that. Still not a defeat. :)

although some Yorkists supported in 1487 an unsuccessful rebellion against Henry, led by Lambert Simnel.

Whose arses he kicked, again, still not a defeat. :)


Mr Tudor sold out and diluted the Lancastrian gene pool, ergo we lost ;)

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1064726)

Yeh it has got run down sam, but were yeh comparing it too? many places i visit n there is quite a few,are also run down, depends what area of a place yeh venture in, no easy answer but thats the way it is.;)

Originally Posted by Restless (Post 1064765)

Last time I checked your surname wasn't Simpson
:D

Originally Posted by SamF (Post 1064772)

Im comparing it to the other towns Ive been around in the last 5 years - Levenshulme, Hadfield/Glossop/Stalybridge, Holmfirth.

Levenshulme is the closest to Accy in terms of being run down and if given the choice between living in either personally Id chose Accy due to family and friends but id recommend someone else to choose Levenshulme(Manchester Centre in 10 mins on the train, Muslim majority leading to strong community and low anti social behaviour - down side being lack of pubs!)

No doubt there are plenty of other places that are run down and in fact despite living in a very nice area of West Yorkshire my girlfriend and I are looking to move back to Lancashire simply due to family and friends.. we have not for one minute though considered moving back to Hyndburn after where we have been living... Towns like Ramsbottom seem to have cracked it with near-countryside locations and the right attitude - if you poured enough money in you could rebrand Accy as a Manchester commuter town in the counrry

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 1064769)

Don't you go bringing your Tykey supporting, traitorous tendencies on here you! ;)

Originally Posted by SamF (Post 1064772)

Im comparing it to the other towns Ive been around in the last 5 years - Levenshulme, Hadfield/Glossop/Stalybridge, Holmfirth.

Levenshulme is the closest to Accy in terms of being run down and if given the choice between living in either personally Id chose Accy due to family and friends but id recommend someone else to choose Levenshulme(Manchester Centre in 10 mins on the train, Muslim majority leading to strong community and low anti social behaviour - down side being lack of pubs!)

No doubt there are plenty of other places that are run down and in fact despite living in a very nice area of West Yorkshire my girlfriend and I are looking to move back to Lancashire simply due to family and friends.. we have not for one minute though considered moving back to Hyndburn after where we have been living... Towns like Ramsbottom seem to have cracked it with near-countryside locations and the right attitude - if you poured enough money in you could rebrand Accy as a Manchester commuter town in the counrry

Originally Posted by SamF (Post 1064793)

Levenshulme is walking distance to Gorton - used to do my big shop at Gorton Tesco :-) There's a decent market there. No doubt its rougher than Accy mind

Originally Posted by DtheP47 (Post 1064760)

From my history books DinG:

After Bosworth in 1486, he married Edward IV's daughter Elizabeth of York, thereby uniting the Yorkist and Lancastrian claims. This event is seen as marking the end of the War of Roses; although some Yorkists supported in 1487 an unsuccessful rebellion against Henry, led by Lambert Simnel. The War of Roses left little mark on the common English people but severely thinned the ranks of the English nobility.

Mr Tudor sold out and diluted the Lancastrian gene pool, ergo we lost ;)