Re: shipbuilding in the uk
 

Here we go again.:rolleyes: This brings to mind a parliamentary debate ... September 2, 1939; and I trust that there are those of us who know what was going on around that time;). When, in the absence of Clement Atlee, Arthur Greenwood got on his hind legs and announced that he was speaking for Labour, Leo Amery yelled across the floor of the House of Commons: "Speak for England." Unfortunately, none of the mainstream leaders over there seem to be doing this,especially when it comes to the EU. (I read that even Europe's economic power house, the Fourth Reich, is posting very disappointing numbers for economic growth.)

Altho' I'm not all that well-read about UKIP, it does seem as if Nigel Farage is the only one speaking out for the UK. And, come to think of it, John Major. Sad, when the voices speaking out come from the fringe, and from out of retirement. Appears to me that democracy is going thru a crisis, and not only over there. Too much ideology ... not enough common sense. Too much plowing ahead with questionable policies .... not enough listening to what the people want. Democracy has become little more than a sacred bovine ... and all that comes out of the world's parliaments is bovine feces.

Re: shipbuilding in the uk
 

Does that include the aircraft carrier being built at the moment?

Or what about the 20 planned Type 26 vessels that are planned to be built in the UK - read about it here, you will like it as it talks about Scotland and independance BBC News - Row over UK warships work on Clyde post-referendum

This link mentions future ships planned to be built http://www.navalshipbuilding.co.uk/n...me.asp?ID=HOM7

Re: shipbuilding in the uk
 

With a great deal of luck the Scots will trust their First Minister and vote for independence - then we will see the building of ships for the Royal Navy in English shipyards, plus lots of other benefits when we get rid of the sponging Scots.