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Minimum wage rise - good or bad?
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I've described elsewhere what my favoured 'something else' would be. There is a lingering attitude that cleaning is the work of women, and it was this view that I wanted to examine. I quite agree that it must not matter that a cleaner is a man or a woman. I am not a supporter of the minimum wage, by reason of that name and also the rate. I couldn't survive if paid that amount, given the conveniences and choices I have grown firm in supporting. In practice, though, I do support it whenever I shop locally because the shop workers are paid at that level. Thread-wander is quite common here and elsewhere, I've noticed. |
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Heart Surgeons would be paid the same as a Road Sweeper. Airline Pilots would be paid the same as Bus Drivers. I do believe the former USSR tried that, it failed. You see the problem with ypur arguement Graham is quite simple, I studied for several years, spent tens of thousands of pounds to become a pilot. Twice a year I have the oportunity of losing my license by testing and a stringent medical. If i make a mistake 200 peopke will die. If we were all paid the same, why would anyone strive to achive? |
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I know men who are cleaners.
towards the end of his working life my father was a school caretaker - he cleaned the school.....he also did basic maintenance, but the major part of the job was cleaning the school. Many jobs are less gender specific than at any time in the past. I agree with Boeing guy. During my career I was responsible for the health, safety and care of many thousands of women. I studied hard to get my qualifications. I was also responsible for the education and training of students under my care. I was subject to yearly appraisal and every three years I could be asked to prove my continued education. My salary was not great(when the responsibilities were considered)....but it was the job I chose to do. I knew what it entailed when I went into it. Work is more than just a paypacket...it is what makes us get up each day and stir ourselves. It is an important part of daily life and that which keeps us sane...and builds confidence and self esteem. A feeling that your life is worthwhile...the you are worth something to the community in which you live. |
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I think that many of the values of society are badly skewed.....the wrong people are paid the most money...but then it is what those who wish to watch sportsmen are willing to pay...but ask those people to pay more for the upkeep of their local hospital services and watch them head for the door. |
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If you are both happy with the situation then that is fine.....but some businesses do not have the luxury of the choice you make. Businesses are in business to make a profit(I know that may sound a strange concept)...and many of the small businesses are only just making ends meet. Our town centre is a testament to this. |
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I understand your logic and agree with most of it, Boeing Guy. A person SHOULD get compensated for the efforts they have made and for their achievements. My children spent years of study during which they went without a lot of the things their peers had (for obvious financial reasons - no income as such during that time) so I agree that they should now be receiving decent salaries, which they are, and that their efforts are being justly rewarded.
However, I don't think you should have compared footballers with nurses - nurses are far more important that footballers - maybe if footballers DID get the same as nurses then the latter would be better compensated, though I doubt it. Don't be surprised to get a comment from Margaret P re this. I'll be disappointed if you don't!!!! |
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Margaret - you beat me to it - you were posting your reply even while I was putting in my bob's worth. Good on you!
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It is wrong, but we are governed by market forces and in the case of the NHS....PFI! My Grandmother was a Nurse, the NHS front line have saved my life, I had a car crash when I was 18, it is a shame we don't live in an ideal world. Dotti, I have no problem with sports stars/ film stars etc earning huge sums of money, but your right, there are inequalities in this world. Nurses are woefully underpaid and I have nothing but the upmost respect for them. I appologise if my comments offended anyone. |
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Quote - Graham Hartley, I do as much as I can find the time to do. I think it right to help her, and she appears happy enough - and I am happier to pay her what I do than I would be if I paid her minimum wage.
Sorry, G.H. but I think if you stick around to help her and during this time you share some of the same type of comments we have grown accustomed to getting from you - and the poor woman has to listen to it all, then I think she deserves a raise..... |
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You can say that again, Boeing Guy. Do you know that a huge number of those brave courageous firefighters who have been fighting the horrific fires in this country lately (and still are) are volunteers - who receive no financial gain whatsoever....
...and thank goodness for them. |
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