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Neil	09-04-2014 09:42

Re: Ossy Moor wind farm

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Originally Posted by Accyexplorer (Post 1101782)

If (and it's a big if) ALL the (true) costs of wind farms were made public, there would be a public outcry to ban the (god forbidden) things overnight (which camo's father just so happens to have a finger in.
David Cameron?s father-in-law?s £350,000 annual bung? | windfarmaction

Perhaps they should just let the things run and 'discount' that price to us mere mortal consumers for that period, instead of paying producers to turn them off :confused:
Wind farms paid £30m to shut down during high winds - Telegraph
Instead of wasting our money, use it to build a massive hydroelectricity lake etc. Storing excess in rechargeable batteries, This is an easy way to store electricity.
There are quite a few different of ways but major rechargeable batteries sound good, these batteries could then be run all over the country to where electricity is needed.
Whatever happens we need to get energy prices down and paying to switch off turbines that generate electricity is messed up (it's no wonder so many landholders and companies are so willing to build these monstrosities, despite their inefficiency in electricity production).....

It stinks of corruption IMHO :D

I doubt batteries would be practical. They would have to me massive and they are not environmentally friendly either. Hydroelectric storage like the Welsh one is probably the best way to store electricity.

You need to read more about why they do turn the turbines off. They couldn't keep them turning and give us cheaper power. It's the fossil fuel power stations that can't be turned off that are still producing enough to meet demands. They can't just flick a switch and stop them or worse flick a switch and start them when the demand peaks again at 5pm or whenever it is. They always produce more electricity than is needed so we don't run out ever.

Karateman

11-04-2014 20:14

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Originally Posted by karateman (Post 1101730)

i dont know...everyone keeps mentioning subsidies which the public pay for to have the windturbines built and i was just wondering what they are and who gets them and why?

anyone!!!!!

Karateman

11-04-2014 21:36

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Originally Posted by Karateman (Post 1102113)

anyone!!!!!

I'll guess then....

first
It will be many thousands of pounds from taxpayers paid to rich land owners to allow them on their land..making them even richer and the tax payer poorer. Mr Camerons son in law for one

Tax Money paid to the companies that build the eyesores towards the building and design costs of the said eyesores.

tax Monies paid to Councils for allowing them to build in their area ignoring public opinion

Tax monies paid to Energy companies to invest in these eyesores and up their profits even more for their rich shareholders....

So...how many out of 4....hopefully none and they are actually paid for by the companies themselves and us the tax payer dont contribute anything except less tax and less towards our energy bills....perfect

Neil	12-04-2014 09:59

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Originally Posted by Karateman (Post 1102125)

Do you mean guess or do you mean you will make up some statements that you hope everyone will assume is fact and agree with you?

Hyndburn Borough Council will have received from Energiekontor for building the windfarm on Oswaldtwistle Moor planning consent charges. Were any section 106 monies paid to HBC or are you suggesting backhanders were paid?

Would you like to comment on the restoration and improvement works Energiekontor have done on the moor or would you prefer to just keep slagging them off? I don't just mean fixing problems they have caused but those that were there before they built the windfarm.

accyman

13-04-2014 13:55

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my guess is some farmers get paid subsidies NOT to farm land then get paid more subsidies to allow wind turbines on them

my guess is a lot of farmers out there get a lot of money for sitting on their arse while other farmers have to get up at the crack of dawn and work their fingers to the bone to get by

i dont know how they figure out who gets paid to to do sod all and who dosnt it may well be just luck of the draw

Margaret Pilkington

13-04-2014 14:02

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and the rest of us pay through the nose for these inefficient monstrosities to generate ...not electricty, but money for those whose land they stand on....and the makers of these objects.
We, the paying public, have been sucked into the green energy/global warming/climate change myth that allows for global politicians to take us to the cleaners.

It is the EU that are forcing us to close down coal fired power stations.....they are imposing the ever increasing carbon emission reductions....these men who we have no power to elect or to sack.

Neil	13-04-2014 14:34

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1102296)

It is the EU that are forcing us to close down coal fired power stations.....they are imposing the ever increasing carbon emission reductions....these men who we have no power to elect or to sack.

We do though, if you vote UKIP into Government they say they will take us out of Europe.

cashman

13-04-2014 15:01

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 1102302)

We do though, if you vote UKIP into Government they say they will take us out of Europe.

True but we dont really know what else they will do though?:confused: I reckon its about time they told the public.

Neil	14-04-2014 09:41

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1102308)

True but we dont really know what else they will do though?:confused: I reckon its about time they told the public.

They used to have there manifesto on there website but Nigel Farage appears to has disowned it recently and is planning to release a new one after the European elections.
I suppose the only manifesto item of interest in the European Election is that UKIP want us out of the EU.

Not that is matters who is an MEP because it would appear they just rubber stamp the decisions made by the EU - which part of the EU I am confused about because it is all just a mess

Margaret Pilkington

14-04-2014 09:52

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 1102302)

We do though, if you vote UKIP into Government they say they will take us out of Europe.

No the people who really pull the strings in the EU are unelected mandarins.
The MEP's are just puppets...or should that be muppets.

How can the likes of a small country like GB affect policy making?

It is a vast, corrupt organisation which has not had a budget ratified by auditors since God was in short pants.

Neil	14-04-2014 10:05

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1102392)

It can't which is why we should be out.

Margaret Pilkington

14-04-2014 10:15

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I agree wholeheartedly Neil.
We were bamboozled into this organisation......have been told lies about it ever since.

The sooner someone has the cojones to grasp the nettle and get us out the better....but I won't be holding my breath....and I think I will be shoving up the daisies before it happens.

accyman

14-04-2014 19:58

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this country has been taken over without one single shot been fired

we missed world war 3 it was started with a typewriter and our defeat came at teh stroke of a pen a few pages into the EU treaty/agreement/contract or whatever they call that blooming thing that has this country by its balls

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