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I've just had a look to see who are members of NATO and was surprised to see France is back in the fold as I know they left in 1967 to take control of their own defence, which was when NATO moved its HQ from Paris to the Netherlands. I reckon France has persuaded Mrs Merkel that the EU should have an integral defence force. On the subject of France, I was speaking to a neighbour whose son lives in a French village which has recently had a refugee camp built alongside it to house some 4,000 souls. Apparently the villagrs are up in arms that it was built there but also up in arms about the manner in which their daughters and other women folk are treated by some elements of the male refugees. |
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Cost is another significant factor - how much would countries have to spend on defence if they are without the support provided by the USA, UK and Canada. |
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Did youse do the touristy bit round the "Dom" & is the Irish pub still round the corner from it? :) |
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I suppose the bottom line is whether we want to be governed by twits from Brussels or idiots from Westminster. As someone who loves visiting mainland Europe I think I'll vote to come out. Certainly don't rate the EEC.
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The farce here is that Cameron offered this referendum as part of his election campaign..Vote for us and I promise you an election on EEc membership.Surely the thinking behind this was vote Tory and you brexit lot can have a vote to get us out..of Europe.
If he has such passion absolute staying in why offer the Brexit vote in the first instance He has conned the Brexit lot into voting Tory with no intention whatsover of assisting them.. My view is one on staying in but Thatcher style...For all her faults,everyone since her has let Europe Walk all over us..Weak representation in fighting our corner ever since her infamous No! No! No!shoe.or hand bagging thumping episode..whatever it was..Poland etc all fight for their own interest with a passion ..We nice Brits simply dont.. |
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Sorry, just dont get yer drift, they were walking all oer us when that bitch was in power, its nowt new.:rolleyes:
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The EU(not the defunct EEC) has abosolutely NO intention of reforming in any way shape or form.
The stance against the UK shows that most clearly....and as for the suggestion of someone strong to go in and do some table thumping....just who do you suggest is up to that task? None of the current politicians in ANY of the parties has anything which resembles a backbone. I am sure this is purely because it means much less work, less hassle and an easier life all round for them to remain as we are...under the thumb of those unelected bureaucrats in Brussels. It gives someone to pass the buck to when the policies that they trumpet fail....someone other than their dim witted selves to blame for all the problems that THEY should be sorting out....that they are getting PAID to sort out. The EU does not want a democracy...they want to be able to dictate terms and conditions and have us all follow like sheep(to the slaughter). ENOUGH.....GET US OUT! |
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The EU are taking the pish. David Cameron is taking the pish......together they want us to believe that we cannot make our way in the world without the EU......what they should be saying is that IF the UK leaves the EU, then the whole sorry mess will tumble down like a house of cards.The EU was a political and social experiment that has long outlived its usefulness...it has become too big to be efficient, and it really does not care what the member nations want or need....it just lives to justify its existence....and to pay greedy bureaucrats and politicians vast sums of money for stuff that is of little consequence. It is a self serving organisation, badly run, badly managed and it is past the time to get out.
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If we do see sense and leave then within the following year I would not be surprised to see the EU really start falling apart with the SE countries, Greece, Hungary & Austria possibly leading the way.
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Still, what do I know, I'm just one of the uneducated plebs who doesn't know what's best for me or my Country! :rolleyes: |
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Don't play into their hands! |
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